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The Benghazi Transcripts: US military woefully unprepared for attack, documents show
FoxNews ^ | 1/13/2014 | Jennifer Grifin

Posted on 01/13/2014 6:04:30 PM PST by RoosterRedux

Hundreds of pages of declassified transcripts from the U.S. military's top commanders present a picture of a woefully ill-postured military force whose assets were not in a position to quickly respond to the Benghazi terror attack -- or other hot spots across Africa and the Middle East.

The 450 pages of newly declassified transcripts detail testimony from secret, closed hearings last year before Congress. They provide fresh insight into the military's decision-making that night from the very commanders who staged the rescue efforts, including the top commander in Africa at the time Gen. Carter Ham.

Among other details, they reveal gaps in the military's positioning of assets around the world.

For example, no attack aircraft were placed on high alert on Sept. 11, and the closest F-16 fighter planes to any of the trouble spots in North Africa were in Aviano, Italy. None were armed, and the closest air refuellers were positioned 10 hours away at a base in Great Britain.

No Defense Department AC-130 gunships were within a 10-hour flight to Libya, according to committee members who heard commanders' testimony over the past 15 months. And the commander's in-extremis force, which included a unit of 23 special operators who are used at the commander's discretion, were training in Croatia that day. They did not make it to a staging base in Sigonella, Italy, for another 19 hours after the attack began, according to committee members.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: benghazigate; benghazitranscripts; carterham

1 posted on 01/13/2014 6:04:30 PM PST by RoosterRedux
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To: RoosterRedux

WTH...who declassified these docs...not ValJar.


2 posted on 01/13/2014 6:06:10 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux
Shortly afterward, Ham announced his retirement, further fueling speculation that he was pushed out.

Ya think!

3 posted on 01/13/2014 6:10:04 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux

But we are gay and proud of it! (That’s really what the book admits was Obama’s military priority was)


4 posted on 01/13/2014 6:12:15 PM PST by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: RoosterRedux
Reporter Jennifer Griffin pens yet another informative -- and damning -- piece about this act of High Treason.

She deserves a Pulitzer for her continuing work on this scandal.

She'll never get one.

5 posted on 01/13/2014 6:14:42 PM PST by Flycatcher (God speaks to us, through the supernal lightness of birds, in a special type of poetry.)
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To: RoosterRedux
From the Headline and Article
woefully ill-postured military force

Total BS!

6 posted on 01/13/2014 6:22:16 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: blackdog
That's right. Gay is Obama's Martin Luther King speech.

"I am queer and I am free...open up the gates and let me out."

"I am gay and I am proud."

That's really Obama's speech.

He is gay and he is proud that he fooled us into believing he was just a Communist.

He is queer...and he is a queer proud Commie.

Bite your lip, Butt Boy. Show us your Queer.

Unfortunately, most of us see you as perverted. And over time you will be as popular as those who mate will animals.

But hey...goats are popular in the ME.

7 posted on 01/13/2014 6:24:10 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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“In my military judgement that attack aircraft would not be the appropriate response tool.”

So, Ham, what was the appropriate response tool that you sent out? Where the hell did he go to school where they didn’t teach him to use EVERYTHING in a fight?

If this is true, then he is guilty of dereliction of duty and should be brought back on Active Duty and placed before a court martial.


8 posted on 01/13/2014 6:25:08 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: RoosterRedux
it continues to vex many congressional Armed Services Oversight members as to why the State Department did not request any Marines to be at the Embassy in Tripoli or at the temporary mission in Benghazi prior to the attack, suggesting a reluctance to have uniformed U.S. military on the ground in Libya before, during and after the attack.

This is the important point. It's bizarre - the Marines were forced to stop in Rota, Spain and change out of their uniforms into t-shirts, I guess so they wouldn't "offend" the Libyans when they came into to try to rescue our guys.

This is all part of Obama and Clinton's faux "normalization" policy, which is also connected to the ROE that got so many of our people killed: Just pretend their our friends, pretend nothing is going on, pretend, pretend, pretend. Obama makes me sick. And so does Hillary, who certainly should have known better.

9 posted on 01/13/2014 6:25:25 PM PST by livius
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To: RoosterRedux
From the Article ...
No Defense Department AC-130 gunships were within a 10-hour flight to Libya

The truth is they were less than four hours away but fighters were less than one hour away. Armed Drones were already overhead, within minutes, when the attack happened. Painting a target, our men knew there was armed aircraft overhead. Our Heroes Knew! It is time the lame-stream media grows up and acts their age.

10 posted on 01/13/2014 6:28:29 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals
Yep. There were C-130's over head...which is why the were painting the target.

This was a treasonable failure.

11 posted on 01/13/2014 6:32:29 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: RoosterRedux

and still the lame-stream media nor congress will tell the truth. obama, hillary, valerie or all three gave the Stand Down Order. I lean toward all three giving the order of Stand Down. These Heroes did not have to Die but they (all three - obama, hillary, valerie) wanted them to Die!


12 posted on 01/13/2014 6:38:29 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: RoosterRedux

The guys in Tripoli, apparently on their own, managed to get an airplane and go to Benghazi and land with no one shooting at the airplane.
This is such a bunch of f**king baloney. You are taught “Danger Close!” In the Army. You deal with the people that are most dangerous to you FIRST. S**theads killing a US Ambassador are “Danger Close!”. You focus everything, and I mean everything, on that and start the reinforcements to the areas that have given up assets. Ham is either too incompetent to be retiring as a general, or he is lying.


13 posted on 01/13/2014 6:39:01 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: Flycatcher
She deserves a Pulitzer for her continuing work on this scandal.

I agree.

14 posted on 01/13/2014 6:40:41 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: no-to-illegals
Painting a target, our men knew there was armed aircraft overhead. Our Heroes Knew!

When I first learned of this, it made me cry like a baby. I can't imagine how it must have been for them. Unforgivable.

15 posted on 01/13/2014 6:44:57 PM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Irenic

Me too Irenic, me too.


16 posted on 01/13/2014 6:48:31 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: blueunicorn6

Maybe the regime is holding his pension hostage. Maybe they say “don’t rock the boat”. By withholding security clearances we can make it very difficult for you to do security consultancy work.


17 posted on 01/13/2014 6:49:43 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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I am amazed at the number of generals and admirals who evidently never had to deal with a bully in their life. Sure, they can threaten his pension, but let them try to actually do something to it. You start trying to get those civilians involved in some REAL baloney and watch them scatter.

“Ummmm....Mr. President......we’ll need some kind of paperwork in order to reduce General Ham’s retirement. Do you have a court martial order or something?”


18 posted on 01/13/2014 7:05:28 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: blueunicorn6
Why wouldn't the military be on high alert on the 9-11 anniversary? You would think they would be prepared for trouble, especially in the middle east. Wasn't there riots outside our embassies in Egypt and another country the day before Benghazi? This report looks like it was released to cover for Hitlary and Blowbama.
19 posted on 01/13/2014 7:06:14 PM PST by peeps36 (I'm Not A Racist, I Hate Douchebags of All Colors)
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To: RoosterRedux

And the commander’s in-extremis force, which included a unit of 23 special operators who are used at the commander’s discretion, were training in Croatia that day.

This statement seals it for me. They had repeatedly stated that everyone and everything was placed on high alert for 9/11 ...


20 posted on 01/13/2014 7:07:41 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (It's difficult to differentiate between a hog calling contest and a Senate rollcall.)
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To: peeps36

There must be something really bad about Libya.


21 posted on 01/13/2014 7:28:46 PM PST by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: RoosterRedux

Dereliction of Duty File for the 2014 Impeachment of CIC B. Hussein Obama, aka Barry Soetoro, a known, documented, legal citizen of the Sovereign Nation of Indonesia.


22 posted on 01/13/2014 7:35:49 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Had an alert recall been made at Aviano, I guarantee you that those F-16s would have been loaded, scrambled, refueled at Sigonella, and been overhead in four hours, max.

When Americans are in extremis, American military will spare no effort to come to their aid.
Providde they don’t have buffoon leadership stopping them.

Ham, Dempsey, Panetta, Obama will forever have those dead Americans on their souls.


23 posted on 01/13/2014 7:50:34 PM PST by oldbill
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To: blueunicorn6
Yeah. Don't know if it's true or not, just throwing it out there.

The real crimes are that the Benghazi office had little security despite the men on the ground begging for it.

The general and others are saying that they didn't have forces postured to help on he anniversary of 9/11? Why not?

they say they couldn't have gotten there in time? No one had any idea how long this would last, our guys could have held out for days or it could have turned into an Iran hostage situation.

Let's no forget the real reason why they were there in the first place.

But yeah, are there any Patriots in the the higher ranks? Will anyone spill the beans about what is really going on?

24 posted on 01/13/2014 9:29:23 PM PST by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux)
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