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Why Mark Warner should fear Ed Gillespie
The Washington Post ^ | January 13, 2014 | Marc A. Thiessen,

Posted on 01/13/2014 7:02:51 PM PST by Kenny

Sen. Mark Warner (D-Va.) is in a lot more trouble than it seems. Despite his ample war chest and approval ratings, only 50 percent of Virginians say Warner should get a second term. And independents, by a margin of 49 to 43 percent, say they would rather have someone new in Virginia’s Senate seat.

Moreover, Warner will have to defend his deciding vote for Obamacare during a midterm election that will likely be driven by voter anger over Obamacare. Virginians upset about President Obama’s false promise that “If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan” will be surprised to discover that Warner made the same false pledge, declaring “I’m not going to support a health-care reform plan that’s going to take away the health care you’ve got right now or a health-care plan that you like.” He did. And if The Post is right that a second wave of Obamacare-driven cancellations is coming in October, just a few weeks before Election Day, that broken promise will be front and center in voters’ minds when Virginians go to the polls.

Still, in the absence of a skilled, well-funded opponent capable of exploiting these vulnerabilities, Warner might well coast to reelection. But Warner could soon have a credible challenger if Ed Gillespie enters the race — possibly as early as this week.

Like Obama, Warner will try to shift conversation from Obamacare to income inequality. Gillespie won’t let Warner off the hook on Obamacare, but he’s more than ready to engage Warner on the economic debate — and is uniquely positioned to do so. He grew up in a blue-collar family, the son of an immigrant who came here from Ireland when his father found work in America as a janitor.

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Still, in the absence of a skilled, well-funded opponent capable of exploiting these vulnerabilities, Warner might well coast to reelection.

Let's pray that's wrong.

1 posted on 01/13/2014 7:02:51 PM PST by Kenny
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To: Kenny

But isn’t Gillespie a squishy RINO who backs amnesty?


2 posted on 01/13/2014 7:05:22 PM PST by montag813
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To: Kenny

Is there anything to indicate that Virginia will ever vote for a Republican in a statewide election again?


3 posted on 01/13/2014 7:06:37 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

No, even Roanoke is Democrat. People believe in “democracy”: think the idea is “Jeffersonian”.


4 posted on 01/13/2014 7:17:48 PM PST by Theodore R. (People in TX in 2014 cheer: Cornball and George P.!)
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To: Kenny

Mark Warner has as much to fear from Ed Gillespie as Zero did from McCain in ‘08.


5 posted on 01/13/2014 7:19:50 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Theodore R.

That’s deceptive. The independent city of Roanoke is Democrat. But if Salem, Roanoke and Roanoke County were all united (as they would be in other states), Roanoke is Republican (combined total voted 54,000 to 48,000 in 2012 for Willard).


6 posted on 01/13/2014 7:25:44 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Sorry, VA’s independent cities are confusing to outsiders. But the state is moving heavily Dem. through the DC suburbs, which are impenetrable.


7 posted on 01/13/2014 7:29:38 PM PST by Theodore R. (People in TX in 2014 cheer: Cornball and George P.!)
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To: Kenny

Warner will not lose. Northern Virginians love kissing Warner’s rear and pretending he has helped the state... God knows why, the man is a walking disaster.


8 posted on 01/13/2014 7:30:54 PM PST by Viennacon
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To: Kenny

Go Gillespie go! A conservative leaning establishment type (may) be better than a Democrat in this case.


9 posted on 01/13/2014 7:32:50 PM PST by JSDude1 (Defeat Hagan, elect a Constutional Conservative: Dr. Greg Brannon!)
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To: Theodore R.; fieldmarshaldj

The point is Virginia is a solid blue state now.


10 posted on 01/13/2014 7:37:08 PM PST by nickcarraway
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To: Theodore R.
While the NOVA suburbs are moving that way, it's hard to call a state that voted for Zero with just 51% (with the other 49% going to combined ostensibly center-right candidates) heavily Dem.

This is the 2012 map for President with the proper blue=Republican, red=Democrat colors. VA Democrats have lucked out by having subpar Republicans or RINOs to run against over the past decade. Even when we get one through handily (McDonnell), they end up having bringing in baggage that damage the ticket (or the RINOs sabotage the ticket, as they did with Cuccinelli). The Dems are already too overrepresented with the top offices, and I expect this will be unsustainable. The GOP had that same sense of certainty and cockiness in the '90s that blew up in their faces, and it will happen to the Democrats in VA.

11 posted on 01/13/2014 7:37:25 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: nickcarraway

Post #11 (and I don’t use the Orwellian newspeak colors).


12 posted on 01/13/2014 7:38:14 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: nickcarraway

“Is there anything to indicate that Virginia will ever vote for a Republican in a statewide election again?”

In the midst of a massive voter blowback on a galvanizing issue like Obamacare, a Republican has an outside chance in a midterm election in Virginia. But otherwise, this state has been done in electorally by South Maryland, aka, Northern VA. The problem about Warner is most Virginia voters are head-over-heels in love with him, the Obamacare lies notwithstanding. He convinced enough people during his stint as Governor that he was some kind of independent-minded moderate, when the truth is he’s one of Obama’s most loyal Senatorial lapdogs.


13 posted on 01/13/2014 8:02:50 PM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: nickcarraway

Not solid blue yet. Our state House of Delegates... the one firewall against McAuliffe’s agenda, has a GOP supermajority. The dems’ advantage is in a few cities.


14 posted on 01/13/2014 8:06:31 PM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: nickcarraway
Is there anything to indicate that Virginia will ever vote for a Republican in a statewide election again?

We may have passed the point of no return. Virginia suffers more than most states because of immigrants, both legal and illegal. It has been going on for so long, that now the 2nd generation immigrants have kids that are of voting age: and they are not going to vote against their self interest (free stuff).

There is quite a bit of data on this. We are talking a 17 point change in voting habits from the 90s to today. There is no way you can overcome those numbers, particularly in elections that are decided by 3-4 points. Virginia is done. They may win a few more elections due to voter anger, but the state isn't producing conservative thought in their schools. Parents are not taking back their schools. Eventually, it all goes blue.

Look at the bright side. The age of the gentiles must come to a close, and Israel must take center stage again. The US has to diminish for that to happen.

15 posted on 01/13/2014 8:46:20 PM PST by Salvavida (The restoration of the U.S.A. starts with filling the pews at every Bible-believing church.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; AuH2ORepublican; randita; Perdogg

A lot of people are taking a very apocalyptic view on Virgina’s future just cause rats won in 2012 and “won” last November. I think it’s a major overreaction.


16 posted on 01/13/2014 10:34:48 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy

It is. People forget that for 3 straight elections in the ‘80s, the Democrats held the Governorship (and were on track to a 4th win in 1993 when a hard-charging George Allen closed a whopping gap in the polls that Mary Sue Terry, the Attorney General, had opened on him). They just elected, by a minority, a corrupt Democrat hack to that office. Sometimes it takes a good slap in the face to the electorate to get them back in the right direction.

It’s also worth pointing out that the state voted more GOP for President in 2012 than it did in 2008, too. I certainly know what it was like to live in a state with a dead GOP. You should’ve seen Tennessee from the period between 1986-1994... we had all of 3 Congressmembers, two were old men, one of whom died in office and passed it to his son, and the other was the RINO Country Clubber from Illinois, Sundquist. We had Gore and Sasser for Senators, both of whom carried the state by 2-to-1 margins in 1988 and 1990 (Gore carrying every county in TN, and Sasser all but two). We had a backwoods Democrat apparatchik Governor who was blind to his party’s corruption. The Democrat Secretary of State blew his brains out during this time, and the media didn’t bat an eyelash. State voted Dem for President in 1992 and 1996.

Flash forward to 2014 and the Democrat party is dead in TN, with the sole exception of some Mayors, all of whom have no chance at winning higher office. Commanding GOP supermajorities in the legislature, Congress, and are solidly Presidential. Stalin could run as a Republican and win handily here. The Democrats can’t even dig up a candidate to run for Governor this year and barely have a second-tier nobody to run for Senator.

The Virginia GOP can turn it around, they just need to clear out the dead wood, dump the RINOs and the statists, present a united front and specific agenda, and take advantage of the wonderful gift of Terry McAwful and Zero’s Senate meatpuppets.


17 posted on 01/13/2014 10:57:11 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: sleepy_hollow; Mad Dawg; EDINVA; JPG; Hawthorn; Paisan; ConservativeOrBust; VA_Gentleman; ...

ping


18 posted on 01/14/2014 4:25:23 AM PST by Perdogg (Ted Cruz-Rand Paul 2016)
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To: Kenny

Ed Gillespie, a ‘Conservative’s Conservative’
By PETER ROFF

http://www.usnews.com/opinion/blogs/peter-roff/2014/01/13/ed-gillespie-would-be-a-strong-gop-senate-candidate-in-virginia?src=usn_tw


19 posted on 01/14/2014 7:50:20 AM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
I have lived in VA for the past 34 years, been active in local GOP politics, been a delegate a number of times at the GOP state conventions, and participated as a poll watcher many times. I find your analysis of what is happening here in VA wildly off the mark. VA is a purple state and is trending solid blue within a decade. Any Rep running for statewide office has to be considered a decided underdog.

This is the 2012 map for President with the proper blue=Republican, red=Democrat colors. VA Democrats have lucked out by having subpar Republicans or RINOs to run against over the past decade. Even when we get one through handily (McDonnell), they end up having bringing in baggage that damage the ticket (or the RINOs sabotage the ticket, as they did with Cuccinelli).

The map shows counties and cities. It doesn't reflect where most of the voters live. NoVA has more than one-third of the voters and it is becoming bluer by the day. The Dems build up huge margins of victory in NoVA, and in the cities to offset the southern and rural parts of the state. You can use similar maps for PA and MI and still get the same results for the Dems.

Here in Fairfax County, the largest in the state, the Dems have taken over. In 2004 Kerry won Fairfax County, the first time a Dem had done that in 40 years. Since then, the margins of victory just grow. In Presidential races, VA is clearly in the Dem column thanks to rapidly changing demographics.

In 1990 15% of the population of Fairfax County was foreign born; today it is 30%. Arlington County and Alexandria provide the Dems with even more votes. In 2012 Obama won Fairfax County by 110,000 votes; Arlington County by 47,000; Alexandria by 32,000; and Prince William County by 29,000. Toss in Richmond which Obama won by 56,000 and Norfolk which Obama won by 40,000 and you have a cushion of 314,000 votes. This is a very difficult amount to overcome in an election where a total of 3.8 million votes were cast.

Obama won VA by 149,000 votes in 2012 compared to 235,000 votes in 2008. Obama actually received 12,000 more votes in 2012 than he did in 2008, but the GOP upped its total in 2012 by nearly 100,000 thru a Herculean GOTV effort but still lost easily.

The bottom line is that the Dems have the numbers and if they get turnout percentages just equal to the GOP, the Dems will win. It also bears mentioning that VA has a black population of 19.7%, a solid Dem constituency.

The Dems are already too overrepresented with the top offices, and I expect this will be unsustainable. The GOP had that same sense of certainty and cockiness in the '90s that blew up in their faces, and it will happen to the Democrats in VA.

I disagree. VA does not have the same electorate it had in the 1990s. VA is going the same way NV and CO are going. CA has already gone. In Presidential elections. states go purple and then blue, not the reverse with the possible exception of WV.

By 2019 half of the children 18 and under will be minorities as defined by the USG. By 2041 half of the country will be minorities. We bring in 1.2 million legal permanent immigrants annually, 87% of whom are minorities. In 1970 one in 21 in this country was foreign-born; today it is one in 8, the highest in 90 years; and within a decade it will be one 7, the highest in our history. This has electoral consequences. Demography is destiny.

NB: Hillary will win VA easily in 2016.

20 posted on 01/14/2014 8:04:10 AM PST by kabar
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To: HokieMom
A real conservative doesn't support amnesty.

Ed Gillespie: Republican Voters Resigned To Immigration Reform

21 posted on 01/14/2014 9:12:51 AM PST by kabar
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To: Perdogg

Thanks for the ping.


22 posted on 01/14/2014 9:58:28 AM PST by Mad Dawg (In te, Domine, speravi: non confundar in aeternum.)
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To: kabar; Impy; GOPsterinMA; randita; Clintonfatigued; BlackElk; AuH2ORepublican; hockeyfan44; ...

Just when I get finished mentioning I don’t use the Orwellian newspeak colors... how can we ever hope to win the ideological war when the right unapologetically accepts the willful mis-labeling given to them by the left. Red is a leftist color, not blue. When you say it’s going “blue”, it’s not going leftist. It’s ignorant and it’s offensive (I’m not strictly directing it at you... but at all Conservatives that blindly use the wrong colors to denote ideology).

I think you’re unnecessarily panicking based on recent elections and presuming things will continue to worsen and that it’s all over for the VA GOP. Zero barely carried the state in 2012 and again, the state moved more to the GOP side over 2008. We had a horrid candidate both years, neither of which motivated Conservative voters. With a better candidate, there’s no reason to believe the state would not vote Republican.

Add in there’s no way Terry McAwful would’ve won in November had McDonnell’s corruption and Bolling’s sabotage not helped to do in Cuccinelli (with more than a little help from a faux Libertarian). McAwful is the first candidate since Mills Godwin in 1965 to win the Governorship with a minority of the vote. McAwful’s “win” also wasn’t able to alter the dynamics of the legislature.

You also presume that for the foreseeable future that voting patterns will remain a certain way based on demographics. That’s foolish, because they can and do change. My state, TN, changed dramatically. So has West Virginia. It was pronounced at the end of the ‘90s that VA would be Republican without exception. NoVA was wealthy and suburban Republican for decades.

You give the example of VA going the way of NV and CO. Well, Nevada hasn’t elected a Democrat Governor since 1994, and keeps at least 1 GOP Senator (both Senators would be Republican if Reid hadn’t lucked out by getting a horrid opponent in 2010 — Reid is enormously unpopular in his state).

Colorado has had unfettered Democrat control for most of the past 8 years and it has blown up in their faces, and their elected officials are very unpopular (and aside from Governor & Lt Gov, the downballot offices are Republican). In many of these states, why the GOP doesn’t have a Senate seat or Governorship is because of damaged nominees or party infighting... the exact problem that has plagued Virginia.

That’s the problem with studying political science and trying to project into the future... it’s an inexact science. Dynamics change, how people vote doesn’t often make logical sense.

Lastly, I wouldn’t definitively claim Hillary is unbeatable in Virginia. She’s a toxic candidate with baggage back to Watergate. Would I then claim she is absolutely beatable ? No. Because we already know the RINO Establishment is utterly comfortable with Democrats ensconced in office (how many Bollingites and Hagerites cast their lot for McAwful in ‘13 and Mark Warner in ‘01). If they foist a 3rd consecutive ringer for ‘16 (Chris Christie), it would be Hillary’s to lose (and she merely need carry the same states as Zero in ‘12).

I’ll add in, too, that we don’t even know the future of our current party system. How long can the Republican Party remain in its current state with the vast disconnect from its leaders on every front from its base ? They are as hostile to us as the Democrats. Although the Democrat base grumbles about their officials, they still vote the way they want them to. Getting rid of the corrupt, statist, crony capitalist, big government cabal in the GOP, the rich Willard stereotype, and forging ahead with a new coalition pledged to smaller government, reformist government and economic opportunity and personal empowerment offered by Ted Cruz and Sarah Palin and their supporters, and we’ll create a new dynamic for the future.

The GOP Establishment and Democrats are terrified at such a vision and movement, because it destroys the control of the former and creates fissures in the racial/gender holds of the latter. Each has to maintain the status quo to keep power, why they’re so often in bed together. It’s this kind of revolutionary change that MUST happen if we are to keep this country for the future.


23 posted on 01/14/2014 3:16:32 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Impy

>> I think it’s a major overreaction <<

Welcome to FR!


24 posted on 01/14/2014 3:36:03 PM PST by Hawthorn
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To: fieldmarshaldj

after living Georgetown in 1984 ... the only thing I know about Virginia is:

Q. What do the Key Bridge and Jimmy Carter have in common?

A. They both go in and out of Rosslyn.


25 posted on 01/14/2014 5:44:05 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (Let the dead bury the dead. Let the GOP bury the GOP.)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Fortunately, that’s one “Rosslyn” (sic) I’ve never had the pleasure of (and I don’t mean Virginia).


26 posted on 01/14/2014 7:20:37 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; kabar; Impy; GOPsterinMA

Living in nearby Maryland’s Howard county I can appreciate what kabar observes in VA.

I have seen exactly the same thing happen in this county, endless development and lots of immigration lured by high paying jobs.
I barely recognize this place from my memories

This county was conservative in 1994 when Dems got beat(I recall that election a black Republican was in line ahead of me ), by 2004 it voted Dem now it is solid DEM, and they keep on building and coming,

Obama being a educated smart sounding brown definitely resonated with our newer members, especially compared to McCain and Romney. .


27 posted on 01/14/2014 7:59:48 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: sickoflibs

Howard County went to the dark side well before that. It hasn’t voted Republican for President since 1988. Given that it’s wedged between the Baltimore/DC morass, it’s amazing it lasted that long. I’d probably say the most horrific example of decline is Prince Georges County. It went from 41% Republican in 1984 to 9% (!) in 2012. Even more Democrat than the city of Baltimore.

Maryland has always been a difficult state for the GOP. Some statewide offices have been continuously Democrat since the 19th century. Since after 1958, it has only elected a Republican twice (1966 with Agnew, and that was because the Democrats split the vote in a 3-way race and Agnew ran to the left of the Dem nominee, George Mahoney; and 2002 with Bob Ehrlich) — or three times if you count Glendening’s pretty glaring theft in 1994 of Ellen Sauerbrey’s victory.

It also hasn’t voted for a centrist Republican for Senator since 1970 (Glenn Beall, Jr.) or for a bonafide Conservative since John Marshall Butler in 1956 (note I don’t count the execrable leftist Chuck Mathias, who was all but planning to switch parties if he ran again in 1986). My former Senator from TN, Bill Brock, even ran in 1994 against Sarbanes, and fared about as well as could be expected.

Add to that the very weak presence of the GOP in the legislature, even in decades past when the party was carrying the Presidency. It just simply has never been a competitive two-party state below the federal level, and even that is gone. It’s also curious that Black Democrats in MD have gone along with Whites in keeping them from winning more offices (with more racially-drawn lines, the GOP would up the number of wins, especially in Congressional seats). It will be curious to see if MD Dems give the Gubernatorial nod to Anthony Brown, seeing how hesitant they’ve been towards Black candidates statewide.


28 posted on 01/14/2014 8:27:02 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Impy
RE :”Howard County went to the dark side well before that. It hasn’t voted Republican for President since 1988. “

You are right. I didn't remember it that way because GOP won midterms later than that, and it was pretty white in the 1990s and I saw the real changes in that in the 2000s.

I still remember in early 1990s when Howard county passed a law making illegal rental discrimination against those with section 8. The apartments filled up with welfare basket cases in the 1990s.

29 posted on 01/14/2014 8:45:32 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Speaking if Maryland, that establishment RINO Bob Erhlich really got me with his lame challenge to O Malley in 2010 as governor. It was pathetic. It was like he was paid to take a dive.

A long story about those two, Michael Steele was Erhlich’s Lt Governor, then ran for Senate and lost, then Hannity pushed him as RNC chairman I assume because he was black.

Erhlich was on CNN Crossfire today, just annoying. It makes me skeptical of Maryland Republicans.


30 posted on 01/14/2014 8:52:53 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Impy; Biggirl; Psalm 73; DTogo
even in Commie CT, the grassroots is growing.

take a look at the CCDL meeting (Connecticut Citizens Defense League)



http://courantblogs.com/capitol-watch/foley-speaks-to-gun-owners/
31 posted on 01/14/2014 9:07:31 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (Let the dead bury the dead. Let the GOP bury the GOP.)
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To: sickoflibs; fieldmarshaldj

That Michael Steele couldn't have done a worse job.

Ken Blackwell was the superior Black choice in that race. With Katon Dawson the White option, did a good job in SC.

Larry Hogan Jr. enters the 2014 GOP primary for MD Governor. Surprisingly crowded GOP field.

32 posted on 01/14/2014 9:52:47 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: sickoflibs; Impy; campaignPete R-CT; BillyBoy

Just out of curiosity, I looked up Howard County in other races. It hasn’t voted GOP for Senator since Mathias in 1980 (Mathias carried every county in the state, even the city of Baltimore with 57% !). Gubernatorially, it has only voted GOP twice in a half-century, in 1994 for Sauerbrey (54%) (though she lost it in ‘98 with 47%) and 2002 for Ehrlich (where he got 55%). Ehrlich lost the county by 677 votes in ‘06 and a wider margin in ‘10, just 44%. Curiously, before 1994, you’d have to go all the way back to 1962 to the last time a GOP candidate won there (by a one-time Congressman named Frank Smalls). Even Spiro Agnew didn’t carry it in ‘66 (his main county was a huge landslide in Montgomery, he failed to even carry Balto County where he was County Executive).

Ehrlich wasn’t a bad sort, more liberal than I would’ve liked. He was the only gubernatorial casualty in 2006, attributable to the terrible climate for the GOP (Pawlenty in MN came within a hair’s width of falling, too... winning only because the Dem Lt Gov candidate committed a public faux pas that brought down her running mate). Still, I was surprised O’Malley won, he was such an awful Mayor of Baltimore. The rematch in ‘10 turned out to be ill-advised (on par with Sauerbrey’s rematch in ‘98) and I didn’t much follow it, given the other races across the country that appeared more winnable. If you believe he took a dive in ‘10, that would be a serious disappointment to hear.

Steele I had high hopes for, but he ended up a disaster. At best, he might’ve been a mediocre Senator (which is about as best as one can hope for in MD), though he had the bad luck of having to run in ‘06. Who knows, had the seat been open instead in ‘02, he might’ve pulled it off. Where I had an inkling of Steele’s being on the wrong side was the infamous 2008 1st district primary where he backed the RINO Gilchrest over Andy Harris (Ehrlich conversely backed Harris). As we know now, Gilchrest went full-Democrat for Kratovil and sabotaged Harris after his victory, and we needlessly lost the seat for 2 years as a result.

I need not run down his track record as National Chairman, but I did not endorse him for the post (in fact, he was next to last in being qualified of all the candidates - with SC’s Katon Dawson and OH’s Ken Blackwell being the top two choices at the time). He was thoroughly AWOL during 2009 when we could’ve hit the Dems hard in the special elections (ask FReeper Chicago Lady, who was the GOP nominee for Rahm Emanuel’s House seat, he didn’t give her the time of day). He then acted like he alone was responsible for the 2010 wins rather than the Tea Party grassroots movement. I publicly called for him here to step down or be removed as chairman very early on. It’s amazing how truly lousy the GOP Chairs have been in the past decade. The last “great” chairman was, of course, Lee Atwater. The only person who exhibits that sort of fearlessness today is Ted Cruz. Of course, an Atwater couldn’t get elected chairman today... he actually wants to win, not to run ringers and collaborate with the bipartisan big gubmint cabal.


33 posted on 01/14/2014 10:21:41 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: Impy

The “other” Michael Steele. :-P Susanna Hoffs is (and still remains) the hottest member of “The Bangles.” She turns 55(!) on Friday and looks 20 years younger.


34 posted on 01/14/2014 10:27:04 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: campaignPete R-CT

Presuming he gets the nomination, I think Foley will be successful in the rematch race (of course, it was blatantly stolen in 2010). Hopefully, Esty will be a victim this year along with Malloy.


35 posted on 01/14/2014 10:29:50 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: kabar

very good analysis and as you say...demographics is destiny for nations


36 posted on 01/14/2014 10:36:27 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Susanna_Hoffs

Shes got it going on.,..... for sure


37 posted on 01/14/2014 10:44:50 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

I do not know how Foley escapes the RINO tag.

Go Boughton.


38 posted on 01/14/2014 10:57:33 PM PST by campaignPete R-CT (Let the dead bury the dead. Let the GOP bury the GOP.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Impy; campaignPete R-CT; BillyBoy
RE :”The Ehrlich O Malley rematch in ‘10 turned out to be ill-advised (on par with Sauerbrey’s rematch in ‘98) and I didn’t much follow it, given the other races across the country that appeared more winnable. If you believe he took a dive in ‘10, that would be a serious disappointment to hear.”

In 2006 O Malley beat Ehrich using deceit. A electric deregulation law that passed before Ehrich took office (Dem Glen Denning deal) ended price controls that year 2006 and O Malley, whose goal was to make them go much higher by passing green energy and conservation laws, blamed the large price increase on Ehrich’s being too nice to electric companies, and the fool voters here really believed O Malley would protect them and voted for him (I talked to a few).

2010 was a slaughter when Ehrich tried a rematch, the grand tax-master O Malley saturated the air waves (like every 15 minutes) labeling Ehrich as dishonest for promising to not raise taxes.

Ehrich really had no campaign in 2010. I cant even remember what he ran on. He sure didn't go after O Malley. It was worse than Romney in 2012. I have no respect for him after that, or the Maryland GOP.

39 posted on 01/15/2014 4:46:44 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Kenny

Warner will do what ever Virginia DEM does, cheat.


40 posted on 01/15/2014 4:52:23 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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Just when I get finished mentioning I don’t use the Orwellian newspeak colors... how can we ever hope to win the ideological war when the right unapologetically accepts the willful mis-labeling given to them by the left. Red is a leftist color, not blue. When you say it’s going “blue”, it’s not going leftist. It’s ignorant and it’s offensive (I’m not strictly directing it at you... but at all Conservatives that blindly use the wrong colors to denote ideology).

You can't issue a dictum and expect to change the conventional use of the colors. Why don't you get in touch with the Red State blog and tell them to change their name? The use of the colors was supposed to change periodically, but the left and the MSM know that associating red with them conjures up images of the Soviets and the communists.

I think you’re unnecessarily panicking based on recent elections and presuming things will continue to worsen and that it’s all over for the VA GOP.

No, this is a real trend that will continue to worsen. I guess I should believe you rather than my lyin' eyes, which have seen what has happened over the past 34 years. I can assure you that the GOP establishment is well aware of what is happening.

Zero barely carried the state in 2012 and again, the state moved more to the GOP side over 2008. We had a horrid candidate both years, neither of which motivated Conservative voters. With a better candidate, there’s no reason to believe the state would not vote Republican.

Again, you are living in a fantasy world. Obama won VA 51.16% to 47.28%, which is a comfortable margin of victory. Obama won by 150,000 votes despite a massive GOP GOTV effort along with other conservative groups like We are Virginia. I was part of those efforts. We contacted more than ten times the number of voters that we did in 2008. We increased the GOP vote total by 100,000 votes--the highest GOP vote total ever.

By comparison, the Dems increased their vote totals in 2008 by 500,000 compared to 2004. And by 12,000 in 2012. The Dems have been on an eight year registration drive beginning as soon as the 2004 elections finished. The Organizing for Obama people are everywhere from supermarkets to metro stations lining up voters. And they have been in the minority communities doing the same thing--sometimes fraudulently. Every cohort that turns 18 in VA is more minority and more Dem. Our voters are dying out and they are not being replaced in the same numbers. It is just a fact.

Add in there’s no way Terry McAwful would’ve won in November had McDonnell’s corruption and Bolling’s sabotage not helped to do in Cuccinelli (with more than a little help from a faux Libertarian). McAwful is the first candidate since Mills Godwin in 1965 to win the Governorship with a minority of the vote. McAwful’s “win” also wasn’t able to alter the dynamics of the legislature.

Their is no doubt that the GOP circular firing squad hurt Ken, one of most effective grassroots organizer the GOP has. Even Ken had to move on to the AG office after barely holding on by a few votes to retain his Fairfax state Senate seat in 2005. In this past election, Fairfax GOP delegates barely eked out victories. It is accepted that a few more elections and the Dems will control all the Fairfax County delegate seats.

It is very difficult to reverse the GOP control over the House of Delegate seats given the gerrymandering and where voters live. Many ran unopposed as do many of the Dems. The Dems may take over control of the Senate depending on the results in the special election in the 33rd district. The old balance used to be 20-20 with the LtGov breaking ties.

The fact that a Libertarian or third party candidate can do so well shows the dissatisfaction with the GOP. Ken received 50,000 less votes than McDonnell in 2009 while McAwful got 250,000 more votes than Deeds did in 2009. In 2012 Kaine actually received 40,000 more votes than Obama.

You also presume that for the foreseeable future that voting patterns will remain a certain way based on demographics. That’s foolish, because they can and do change. My state, TN, changed dramatically. So has West Virginia. It was pronounced at the end of the ‘90s that VA would be Republican without exception. NoVA was wealthy and suburban Republican for decades.

I don't know who made such a prediction, but I can tell you that the demography of NoVA has changed dramatically since 1990. In 1990 the foreign born comprised 15.6% of the population of Fairfax County compared to the 30.4% in 2010. Whites were 81.3% of the population in 1990; in 2010 they are 62.7%. The population of Fairfax County has grown from 818,584 in 1990 to 1,081,726 in 2010. Essentially, all of the population increase has been due to minorities as defined by the USG.

The Asian population has more than doubled from 8.5% in 1990 to 17.6% in 2010; the Hispanic population from 6.3% to 15.6%, and other race/multi race from 2.3% to 10.2%. Blacks went from 7.7% to 9.2% in 2010.

Minorities and immigrants vote more than two to one for the Dems. Demography is destiny. You can't have such dramatic changes without having an electoral and lasting impact.

You give the example of VA going the way of NV and CO. Well, Nevada hasn’t elected a Democrat Governor since 1994, and keeps at least 1 GOP Senator (both Senators would be Republican if Reid hadn’t lucked out by getting a horrid opponent in 2010 — Reid is enormously unpopular in his state)

NV has reached a tipping point. NV went for Obama by 12% in 2008 and 7% in 2012. The demography of the state has also changed significantly since 1990. It used to be battleground state with close elections. No longer is that the case.

Colorado has had unfettered Democrat control for most of the past 8 years and it has blown up in their faces, and their elected officials are very unpopular (and aside from Governor & Lt Gov, the downballot offices are Republican). In many of these states, why the GOP doesn’t have a Senate seat or Governorship is because of damaged nominees or party infighting... the exact problem that has plagued Virginia.

CO has gone Dem the last two Presidential elections with Obama garnering the two largest vote totals in the history of the state. CO is mirroring what is happening in VA. The Dems control the state legislature in CO. And the demography in CO is changing.

That’s the problem with studying political science and trying to project into the future... it’s an inexact science. Dynamics change, how people vote doesn’t often make logical sense.

I know. I have a couple degrees in the subject. But there are trends and data that support them. Do you see CA going Rep any time soon?

Lastly, I wouldn’t definitively claim Hillary is unbeatable in Virginia. She’s a toxic candidate with baggage back to Watergate. Would I then claim she is absolutely beatable ? No. Because we already know the RINO Establishment is utterly comfortable with Democrats ensconced in office (how many Bollingites and Hagerites cast their lot for McAwful in ‘13 and Mark Warner in ‘01). If they foist a 3rd consecutive ringer for ‘16 (Chris Christie), it would be Hillary’s to lose (and she merely need carry the same states as Zero in ‘12).

Hillary and any other Dem start out with a massive advantage in the number of electoral votes that are considered as locks. It is far more difficult for the Reps to get the needed votes to become President. And it is getting harder each and every time. If the Dems turnout in VA, Hillary is unbeatable. And she will garner more of the women's vote than Obama. It will be another historic election--our first woman President.

I’ll add in, too, that we don’t even know the future of our current party system. How long can the Republican Party remain in its current state with the vast disconnect from its leaders on every front from its base ? They are as hostile to us as the Democrats. Although the Democrat base grumbles about their officials, they still vote the way they want them to. Getting rid of the corrupt, statist, crony capitalist, big government cabal in the GOP, the rich Willard stereotype, and forging ahead with a new coalition pledged to smaller government, reformist government and economic opportunity and personal empowerment offered by Ted Cruz and Sarah Palin and their supporters, and we’ll create a new dynamic for the future.

And who is going to bell the cat? The GOP establishment has the money and it will not relinquish control even if it means taking down the party. They would rather lose than have a conservative win.

The GOP Establishment and Democrats are terrified at such a vision and movement, because it destroys the control of the former and creates fissures in the racial/gender holds of the latter. Each has to maintain the status quo to keep power, why they’re so often in bed together. It’s this kind of revolutionary change that MUST happen if we are to keep this country for the future.

The power structure of this country will not change until the welfare state and our fiscal house of cards collapses. There are too many vested interests that want to keep riding this horse until the horse dies.

41 posted on 01/15/2014 2:44:40 PM PST by kabar
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To: kabar; Impy; GOPsterinMA; BlackElk; Clintonfatigued; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy
"You can't issue a dictum and expect to change the conventional use of the colors. Why don't you get in touch with the Red State blog and tell them to change their name? The use of the colors was supposed to change periodically, but the left and the MSM know that associating red with them conjures up images of the Soviets and the communists."

That "conventional use" is wrong, and has been since it began on Election Night 2000. It's as absurd as being called "teabaggers" by homosexual Marxists. I've been vocal about it from day #1. As I said, how can the right even win the intellectual argument when we won't even fight back against these mislabellings ?

"No, this is a real trend that will continue to worsen. I guess I should believe you rather than my lyin' eyes, which have seen what has happened over the past 34 years. I can assure you that the GOP establishment is well aware of what is happening."

The presumption you continue to make is that it won't change and heads only in one direction. Things change in politics. You seem to want to just throw up your hands and write off the state. As for the GOP establishment, it is their yoke that must be thrown off in order to break their unholy alliance with the Democrats and present an actual opposition party.

"Again, you are living in a fantasy world. Obama won VA 51.16% to 47.28%, which is a comfortable margin of victory."

Zero got a lower percent of the vote than in 2008. That means the state voting preferences moved to the right. The combined opposition consisted of (ostensibly) a center-right bloc (Willard, Gary Johnson & Virgil Goode). Again, we had one of the WORST non-Conservative phonies put up by the Republican party since Wendell Willkie, and add in the other two, and the opposition still got to 49%.

"Obama won by 150,000 votes despite a massive GOP GOTV effort along with other conservative groups like We are Virginia. I was part of those efforts. We contacted more than ten times the number of voters that we did in 2008. We increased the GOP vote total by 100,000 votes--the highest GOP vote total ever."

I'm sorry, but I'll tell you again that the nominee did not motivate the base. I did not vote for him in my state in the general (I voted for Virgil Goode). You may think you had a massive GOTV effort, but the problem remained that the candidate himself was no better than a ringer and a non-serious candidate. That he even managed to get 47% in Virginia is astounding. A real candidate who motivated the base would've won against the worst "President" in U.S. history.

"By comparison, the Dems increased their vote totals in 2008 by 500,000 compared to 2004. And by 12,000 in 2012. The Dems have been on an eight year registration drive beginning as soon as the 2004 elections finished. The Organizing for Obama people are everywhere from supermarkets to metro stations lining up voters. And they have been in the minority communities doing the same thing--sometimes fraudulently. Every cohort that turns 18 in VA is more minority and more Dem. Our voters are dying out and they are not being replaced in the same numbers. It is just a fact."

So what are you doing to reach them ? You keep lamenting the changing demographics and "shrinking pie", instead of taking notes from the opposition and pilfering their people. Used to be a time until the 1930s that the Democrats couldn't get the Black vote since it was overwhelmingly Republican. Did they sit on their hands ? Nope. They went out and aggressively courted their vote until after decades of hard work, they got a majority. Because the GOP is too timid and gutless, they don't bother to go straight into the heart of the opposition as the Democrats do. Occasionally they might put out a face, but they never put the resources behind it. I've never seen a party that often acts so eager to lose... so why should you or anyone else be surprised when they do ?

"Their is no doubt that the GOP circular firing squad hurt Ken, one of most effective grassroots organizer the GOP has. Even Ken had to move on to the AG office after barely holding on by a few votes to retain his Fairfax state Senate seat in 2005. In this past election, Fairfax GOP delegates barely eked out victories. It is accepted that a few more elections and the Dems will control all the Fairfax County delegate seats."

"It is accepted." Where's the fight ? Everything you write is dripping with defeatism and negativism.

"The fact that a Libertarian or third party candidate can do so well shows the dissatisfaction with the GOP. Ken received 50,000 less votes than McDonnell in 2009 while McAwful got 250,000 more votes than Deeds did in 2009. In 2012 Kaine actually received 40,000 more votes than Obama."

And yet the fake Libertarian's candidacy was a coordinated effort with the Democrats to draw ignorant voters away from the Republican. Where's the fight ? Where are the counter-measures ? I do feel for Cuccinelli, but he was being shithammered from all sides, including the sitting Governor and Lieutenant Governor. His campaign was ultimately less than stellar.

"I don't know who made such a prediction, but I can tell you that the demography of NoVA has changed dramatically since 1990. In 1990 the foreign born comprised 15.6% of the population of Fairfax County compared to the 30.4% in 2010. Whites were 81.3% of the population in 1990; in 2010 they are 62.7%. The population of Fairfax County has grown from 818,584 in 1990 to 1,081,726 in 2010. Essentially, all of the population increase has been due to minorities as defined by the USG. The Asian population has more than doubled from 8.5% in 1990 to 17.6% in 2010; the Hispanic population from 6.3% to 15.6%, and other race/multi race from 2.3% to 10.2%. Blacks went from 7.7% to 9.2% in 2010. Minorities and immigrants vote more than two to one for the Dems. Demography is destiny. You can't have such dramatic changes without having an electoral and lasting impact."

And what is being done to make a play for their vote ? Writing them off is not an option. Either make the play or get off the damn field. Half the reason the GOP fails to make a dent is because they don't even bother to ask for their vote.

"NV has reached a tipping point. NV went for Obama by 12% in 2008 and 7% in 2012. The demography of the state has also changed significantly since 1990. It used to be battleground state with close elections. No longer is that the case."

You manage to make 7% sound worse than 12%. That's movement in the GOP's direction. Again, NV Democrats haven't been able to elect a Governor in 20 years and barely hold a Senate seat with a massively unpopular Harry Reid. We have a talented Hispanic Republican Governor there, we also have a Latina Republican Governor in majority Hispanic New Mexico and the Republicans are making a serious play to capture the House of Representatives this year, which they are but a few seats away from capturing. By your reckoning, these states should be "gone." They're not.

"CO has gone Dem the last two Presidential elections with Obama garnering the two largest vote totals in the history of the state. CO is mirroring what is happening in VA. The Dems control the state legislature in CO. And the demography in CO is changing."

Colorado has also had major infighting within the GOP, and has put up subpar candidates. The Democrats just had to pressure a weak State Senator to quit ahead of being recalled (and with her recall, the GOP captures the State Senate) in order to preserve a paper-thin majority. Heavily Democrat Pueblo recalled a Democrat for a Republican. That has been a reliably Democrat area for close to a century. It CAN happen. You keep sounding the negative bell and I keep coming up with examples to refute your points, which you refuse to concede. If Colorado has changed, then why do the Republicans score these wins ? You seem to just want to surrender in everything you write. "Demographics, y'know. It's all over."

"I know. I have a couple degrees in the subject. But there are trends and data that support them. Do you see CA going Rep any time soon?"

You have a couple degrees ? Remind me not to get any. I've only spent the bulk of my life in independent political study rather than getting a good college brainwashing in intellectual dishonesty and negativity. Do I see California going Republican ? It can, but right now you've got an incompetent state party that serves the rich elites and won't do what is necessary to win. The state had the incredible opportunity to elect an accomplished leader in Tom McClintock as Governor. What did it elect ? A celebrity Austrian Socialist who was more fiscally leftist than the Democrat he replaced. He was so horrid that it had Jerry Brown replace him. The Republican Party does a shockingly good job at paving the way for extremist moonbats. Crap candidates, sabotage, non-Conservative policies, poor or non-campaigning. The Democrats luck out by having Republican elites as an "opposition."

"Hillary and any other Dem start out with a massive advantage in the number of electoral votes that are considered as locks. It is far more difficult for the Reps to get the needed votes to become President. And it is getting harder each and every time. If the Dems turnout in VA, Hillary is unbeatable. And she will garner more of the women's vote than Obama. It will be another historic election--our first woman President."

Her entire life from out of college is filled to the brim with corruption, malfeasance and blood. But the RINO establishment is hell bent on making sure she wins. She is a GIFT to the Conservatives to draw stark differences between good and evil. But they can't be allowed anywhere near the nomination, because they might actually win. No, we must put up corpulent buffoon clowns like Christie with the claim that only "he" can win. Just like how only McCain could beat Zero and how only Willard could win. They never win. They are only ringers. This is why we must obliterate the Republican Establishment, the enforcers for the Democrats going back for decades.

"And who is going to bell the cat? The GOP establishment has the money and it will not relinquish control even if it means taking down the party. They would rather lose than have a conservative win."

Take them down. It's not one way, it's now the only way and an absolute imperative.

"The power structure of this country will not change until the welfare state and our fiscal house of cards collapses. There are too many vested interests that want to keep riding this horse until the horse dies."

Again, why it is an imperative to take them down before everyone is taken down.

42 posted on 01/15/2014 4:44:17 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: kabar; fieldmarshaldj

43 posted on 01/15/2014 9:50:57 PM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

As to your #42, THANKS, I needed that. Laughter is good for one’s health and you combine megadoses of truth with a wonderfully humorous prose.


44 posted on 01/15/2014 11:49:56 PM PST by BlackElk (Dean of Discipline, Tomas de Torquemada Gentlemen's Society: Rack 'em, Danno)
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To: BlackElk

Thank you, most kind of you to say.


45 posted on 01/15/2014 11:54:51 PM PST by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; GOPsterinMA
Susanna Hoffs is (and still remains) the hottest member of “The Bangles.” She turns 55(!) on Friday and looks 20 years younger.

Absolutely. Gorgeous and one the finest examples of aging well that you'll ever seen.

46 posted on 01/16/2014 1:15:14 AM PST by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy; fieldmarshaldj

I’d throw up on her. ;)


47 posted on 01/16/2014 7:00:32 AM PST by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
The presumption you continue to make is that it won't change and heads only in one direction. Things change in politics. You seem to want to just throw up your hands and write off the state. As for the GOP establishment, it is their yoke that must be thrown off in order to break their unholy alliance with the Democrats and present an actual opposition party.

If I were throwing up my hands, I would stop participating in local politics. I am giving you the facts based on 34 years of living here. You can accept that or not from your distant vantage point in TN. The reality is that VA is a purple state trending blue (Dem) and it is not going to be reversed unless this country reforms its immigration policies. Demography is destiny.

Zero got a lower percent of the vote than in 2008. That means the state voting preferences moved to the right. The combined opposition consisted of (ostensibly) a center-right bloc (Willard, Gary Johnson & Virgil Goode). Again, we had one of the WORST non-Conservative phonies put up by the Republican party since Wendell Willkie, and add in the other two, and the opposition still got to 49%.

These kinds of moral victories are for losers. The 47.28% for the Rep candidate was a high water mark for Reps in terms of the number of votes received for a Presidential candidate. It took tremendous effort to get 100,000 more votes than 2008 and we still lost. Nationally, Romney got 1 million more votes than McCain and Obama received 3.5 million fewer votes and the GOP still lost by 5 million votes.

We can continue to blame the candidates or the inability to communicate our message, but such excuses won't help us win. There is something far more fundamentally wrong with the GOP. And as the composition of our population continues to change, our chances of winning diminish.

Immigration, Political Realignment, and the Demise of Republican Political Prospects">

I'm sorry, but I'll tell you again that the nominee did not motivate the base. I did not vote for him in my state in the general (I voted for Virgil Goode). You may think you had a massive GOTV effort, but the problem remained that the candidate himself was no better than a ringer and a non-serious candidate. That he even managed to get 47% in Virginia is astounding. A real candidate who motivated the base would've won against the worst "President" in U.S. history.

I know Virgil personally. He is a good man and a real conservative. So you voted for Virgil in TN as though that makes some sort of difference. Romney won with 59% of the vote and Virgil received 6,022 votes.

You seem oblivious to what is happening in VA. Romney received more votes than any Rep Presidential candidate has ever received in this state. The base was motivated, but we don't have the numbers.

So what are you doing to reach them ? You keep lamenting the changing demographics and "shrinking pie", instead of taking notes from the opposition and pilfering their people. Used to be a time until the 1930s that the Democrats couldn't get the Black vote since it was overwhelmingly Republican. Did they sit on their hands ? Nope. They went out and aggressively courted their vote until after decades of hard work, they got a majority. Because the GOP is too timid and gutless, they don't bother to go straight into the heart of the opposition as the Democrats do. Occasionally they might put out a face, but they never put the resources behind it. I've never seen a party that often acts so eager to lose... so why should you or anyone else be surprised when they do ?

Blacks vote over 90% consistently for the Dems. They like and want Big Government. They have 71% out of wedlock birth rates. They have horrendous school dropout rates. They use the social welfare net more than any other group. Do you really think that limited government and lower taxes resonate with blacks or Hispanics? Here are a few graphs that depict how blacks have become a permanent underclass.

These ten charts show the black-white economic gap hasn’t budged in 50 years Here are a few:

I think you need to get better informed as to why and how the black vote shifted over to the Dems.

Demographics matter.

"It is accepted." Where's the fight ? Everything you write is dripping with defeatism and negativism.

You can't handle the facts.

And what is being done to make a play for their vote ? Writing them off is not an option. Either make the play or get off the damn field. Half the reason the GOP fails to make a dent is because they don't even bother to ask for their vote.

That is just not the case. Reps have asked for their votes, but they don't want to give them because it is in their vested interests to vote for the Dems, the party of free stuff. They depend on Big Government to survive.

Every election cycle I meet and talk with our Rep candidates locally who go up against Dem incumbents. They are filled with hubris and feel that they can court the minority vote and do better than the candidates before them. They go into the minority communities at local events, churches, town meetings etc. They make a concerted effort on outreach. Come election day they return deflated with their tails between their legs.

You manage to make 7% sound worse than 12%. That's movement in the GOP's direction. Again, NV Democrats haven't been able to elect a Governor in 20 years and barely hold a Senate seat with a massively unpopular Harry Reid. We have a talented Hispanic Republican Governor there, we also have a Latina Republican Governor in majority Hispanic New Mexico and the Republicans are making a serious play to capture the House of Representatives this year, which they are but a few seats away from capturing. By your reckoning, these states should be "gone." They're not.

Anything over 10% is a landslide. 7% is a comfortable victory. By my reckoning? I said that states like NM and CO are moving to the left. They will be solid Dem states in the not too distant future given the changing demographics. By 2019 half of the children 18 and under will be minorities as classified by the USG. Today, more than half of the students in 1st grade are minorities.

If Colorado has changed, then why do the Republicans score these wins ? You seem to just want to surrender in everything you write. "Demographics, y'know. It's all over."

Please. Yes, there will be individual victories, but the long term trend is what is disturbing. Obama won CO easily in 2008 and 2012. Obama received 35,000 more votes in 2012 than he did in 2008. And those two totals were the highest ever received by a Presidential candidate in any previous election. Romney received over 112,000 more votes than McCain and still lost.

You have a couple degrees ? Remind me not to get any. I've only spent the bulk of my life in independent political study rather than getting a good college brainwashing in intellectual dishonesty and negativity.

I am 70 years old. College and the "brainwashing" are long in the rear view mirror. I have been involved politically since I was 18.

Do I see California going Republican ? It can, but right now you've got an incompetent state party that serves the rich elites and won't do what is necessary to win. The state had the incredible opportunity to elect an accomplished leader in Tom McClintock as Governor. What did it elect ? A celebrity Austrian Socialist who was more fiscally leftist than the Democrat he replaced. He was so horrid that it had Jerry Brown replace him. The Republican Party does a shockingly good job at paving the way for extremist moonbats. Crap candidates, sabotage, non-Conservative policies, poor or non-campaigning. The Democrats luck out by having Republican elites as an "opposition."

You are delusional if you think the Reps will take back CA. In a decade, you will be able to count the number of Reps in the Congressional delegation on one hand. The current crop of 15 will face increasing challenges for reelection. Buck McKeon just retired. More will come as they realize that the numbers just aren't there for reelection.

Her entire life from out of college is filled to the brim with corruption, malfeasance and blood. But the RINO establishment is hell bent on making sure she wins. She is a GIFT to the Conservatives to draw stark differences between good and evil. But they can't be allowed anywhere near the nomination, because they might actually win. No, we must put up corpulent buffoon clowns like Christie with the claim that only "he" can win. Just like how only McCain could beat Zero and how only Willard could win. They never win. They are only ringers. This is why we must obliterate the Republican Establishment, the enforcers for the Democrats going back for decades.

Demography is destiny. We have entered the era of tribal politics. Obama's reelection shows we have reached a tipping point.

Take them down. It's not one way, it's now the only way and an absolute imperative.

So what are you doing to take down Corker and Alexander?

48 posted on 01/16/2014 8:46:13 AM PST by kabar
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To: Theodore R.

If you take away the northern Virginia vote, republicans win every time.


49 posted on 01/16/2014 11:33:52 AM PST by Dave W
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To: Impy

You mean that a topic on freerepublic has over reaction?


50 posted on 01/16/2014 11:37:30 AM PST by Dave W
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