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An Obamacare supporter recounts his misadventures dealing with HealthCare.gov
The Daily Caller ^ | January 14, 2014 | Steve Frieez

Posted on 01/14/2014 4:12:40 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife

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1 posted on 01/14/2014 4:12:41 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

I reported this problem on FR yesterday. The ONLY way to stop the other plan from auto-deducting from your account it to move your account to a different and unrelated bank.


2 posted on 01/14/2014 4:15:26 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Cincinatus' Wife
YOU WANTED IT..NOW EAT IT..see what he finds inside footlocker at the 2:52 mark..

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5NP8y63Ms4o

3 posted on 01/14/2014 4:23:05 AM PST by Paul46360
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Steve’s “husband” Miles.

Couldn’t read any further, queers disgust me.


4 posted on 01/14/2014 4:23:10 AM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Paul46360

OOPPPSSS at the 1:10 mark


5 posted on 01/14/2014 4:23:55 AM PST by Paul46360
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

The Leftist media is loaded with homosexuals.


6 posted on 01/14/2014 4:25:30 AM PST by txrefugee
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“We’d worried the GOP would succeed in defunding it or undermining it in some other way that would put affordable coverage further out of our reach.”

1. It’s scary to think people actually believe that.

2. I stopped reading after the first 20 sentances but something tells me this woman never gave the GOP any credit for trying to warn her and stop this mess. All she does is lament her and her husband’s current situation.

Have another glass of champagne dumbass, we tried to warn ya but noooooooooooooooooooo the evil Republicans............................You deserve what’s happening to you.


7 posted on 01/14/2014 4:27:18 AM PST by V_TWIN
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

” My husband, Miles”

So Steve is the wife?


8 posted on 01/14/2014 4:31:59 AM PST by MNDude
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To: Graybeard58

There is good information in this saga.

If nothing else, you can see how any numbers put out by the government must be lies.


9 posted on 01/14/2014 4:33:16 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: V_TWIN
I stopped reading after the first 20 sentances but something tells me this woman never gave the GOP any credit for trying to warn her and stop this mess. All she does is lament her and her husband’s current situation.

The author's name is Steve and he's talking about his "husband", not her husband.

10 posted on 01/14/2014 4:36:01 AM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: Graybeard58

If your intention is to turn off readers STOP!

The information in this article applies to everyone.


11 posted on 01/14/2014 4:37:35 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

One thing remained consistent: Miles’ medication was not in the “formulary” anymore. I’d never heard that term, either, but it’s the document in which insurers state what they will cover and at what level.


Well, at least it covers birth control. So they have that. ;-)


12 posted on 01/14/2014 4:38:34 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: V_TWIN

The part of the article I found most odd was how the wife had to do all the insurance calls and dickering for the husband. I have to wonder why he can’t actually take care of himself. What a batch of pathetic whiners. They wanted something for nothing, and merely got nothing for something as one should expect with such a desire.

Of course the article still ends with their fervent belief in unicorns and pixie dust solutions intact. What utter morons.

Oh, and it’s the insurance companies’ fault.


13 posted on 01/14/2014 4:39:41 AM PST by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Two points:
1. Decoding the text indicates that one of these two has HIV, probably caused by their life style and celebrated by this Administration which scolds for a wide variety of other unhealthy behavior so the additional cost of medications is likely self inflicted. 2. I wonder if Tony Dawson is now unemployed for giving a straight answer to dump the ACA for a private plan.


14 posted on 01/14/2014 4:42:53 AM PST by Truth29
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To: V_TWIN

Gee, the poor little fags are upset because the joint cost of drugs and medical insurance is going to cost him 600 a month. That is what I pay for my individual group plan which my employer pays 40% of the cost. These jerks are blissfully ignorant of what their former employer was paying on their behalf. Worse, they have the temerity to believe that it is the government’s (taxpayers) responsibility to pay for their healthcare so they can pursue their life’s dreams. Sorry sucker, go to work and get your healthcare on your dime, not mine.


15 posted on 01/14/2014 4:43:49 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: Graybeard58

How does Steve have the ability to sign Miles up for anything? He is 41 and wants to return to college to get a new career, so he has been on a two year fellowship. These are the Americans who exhibit exceptionalism that the rest of the world hates. And they are whiners. They better get signed up for the Titanic cruise, because the rest have to do so.


16 posted on 01/14/2014 4:44:59 AM PST by healy61
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To: Gen.Blather

Obamacare is dead to me and has been ever since Obama started pushing it. I’ve never been to healthcare.gov and don’t intend to go there. As for my wife and I, bot 60, we’ve just accepted that the US is in a form of “post russian revolution” hell hole and figure we won’t have insurance for the rest of our lives. Ours ended at the end of the year.

This is one of the ways we are going galt and invoking Revelation 18:4.

We will also no longer vote in federal elections. The federal government is also dead to us, though we will continue to file a tax return.

I’m too familiar with this nations history to just lie down like a good lemming and do what the fascists say. It’s why the scariest scene in any movie for me is the first ten minutes of Inglorious Basterds. Eventually they will come, no matter how “small” you are.


17 posted on 01/14/2014 4:45:36 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: V_TWIN

It’s husband and husband. I read the entire thing. Nothing new - Obamacare is a giant failure. We told them so.


18 posted on 01/14/2014 4:45:38 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Graybeard58

This is confusing...so it’s husband and husband? Right? Or is there some newly invented terminology for this situation?

Meanwhile, back on the insurance topic...what shocking new development is this? Basically....the 2,000 page law didn’t think to see all the various ways that we utilize health insurance today....in various forms developed by the industry to fit the needs of people. And the government.....knew nothing of the arrangement or the mechanisms already in place? Am I missing anything on this?

A notice to anyone who researches WW II and the initial months of the war. Roosevelt basically “let go” (best wording for it)....all of the players who ran his economy and industry plan since 1933. Virtually all of them had to disappear....to let the real business enterprise in the front door, and allow America to flourish in a way that Roosevelt and his staff could not imagine or allow. It says a lot about the current mess, and why nothing seems to work.


19 posted on 01/14/2014 4:47:07 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Graybeard58

Sorry about that, I was so wrapped up in people thinking the GOP is evil I didnt notice they were gay.


20 posted on 01/14/2014 4:51:50 AM PST by V_TWIN
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To: drbuzzard

FWIW, As someone pointed out to me, the 2 people in this story are gay.


21 posted on 01/14/2014 4:53:07 AM PST by V_TWIN
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To: ilovesarah2012

Thanks, there was so much wrong with this artice I actually missed the gay angle. lol


22 posted on 01/14/2014 4:54:46 AM PST by V_TWIN
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

a Scrooge quote comes to mind........ Obama care will reduce the surplus parasitic journalist Population.

That would be the free lancers like Kirsten Powers that exist by mooching. They have money to pay accountants but not to pay for medicine.

America will be a better place if they just die from lack of medicine and frustration


23 posted on 01/14/2014 4:55:17 AM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Talk about slow realization... At least these creeps can read. Can you imagine how hard this will be for the marginally literate?


24 posted on 01/14/2014 4:57:11 AM PST by Carry_Okie (0-Care IS Medicaid; they'll pull a sheet over your head and take your home to pay for it.)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

“The information in this article applies to everyone.”

Yes, it does. People should at least skip to the last page where the author makes the point that if he, who has the time and expertise to deal with things like this, couldn’t make it work, other folks must be having a much harder time.

The drug issue is a huge one, generally even a sick person might avoid going to the doctor - but if you don’t take your needed medicine you’re going to end up in the hospital.


25 posted on 01/14/2014 5:00:11 AM PST by jocon307
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To: bert

Another thought comes to mind:

“A conservative is a liberal who’s been mugged by reality.”

They may not be there yet but they’re mad as hell and writing about it.

Sometimes they’re the only ones who can cut through the noise made by militant leftists; and through their experience with Obamacare, a few more conservatives could arise from the ashes.


26 posted on 01/14/2014 5:00:18 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

That’s one hell of a long story,
but what I thought was key was they both supported Obamacare because they wanted to quit their jobs where they had insurance coverage and pursue new careers, and that having ACA Obamacare would give them the safety net to do it.

Then they tell the nightmare story that resulted,


27 posted on 01/14/2014 5:00:31 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Even with the myriad of lies and hurdles they had to clear, they still what Obamascare to work! They are on crack!


28 posted on 01/14/2014 5:04:17 AM PST by blaveda
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To: V_TWIN

I had to look twice at the writer’s name to figure it out. I admit to taking perverse pleasure in their pain. They wanted Obamacare - they got it.


29 posted on 01/14/2014 5:04:18 AM PST by ilovesarah2012
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

What’s the saying, “a conservative is a liberal who’s gotten mugged”?

The writer may not be a conservative (yet), but he has certainly gotten mugged-courtesy of Obama.


30 posted on 01/14/2014 5:04:20 AM PST by randita
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

So, this guy thinks it fair to expect an insurance company to issue a policy to “Miles”, despite the screwed up math. He want to pay premiums of $2952/ year AND get coverage for a medication that costs $5256/year. With Miles’ deductible of $1650 annually, the insurance company would still pay $3606 for the medicine, resulting in a net loss of over $600. After that, every single covered medical expense is a negative loss for the insurer.


31 posted on 01/14/2014 5:05:18 AM PST by REPANDPROUDOFIT (November can't come soon enough!)
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We’re on the same page!

I wonder how many, who thought that Obamacare would be grand, might be thinking about voting for Ted Cruz (who tried to stop it) in 2016 — about kicking out Dems in 2014.


32 posted on 01/14/2014 5:08:28 AM PST by Cincinatus' Wife
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To: Cincinatus' Wife; neverdem
Three days into 2014, Miles took his Obamacare out for its maiden drive. His stop at the doctor went fine. At the pharmacy, it crashed. His medication — which has cost us a co-pay of between $10 and $30 under every other plan he’s had since 2004 including one under Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan — would not be covered. At all. That’s $438 out of pocket. Every month. And it won’t even go against the plan deductible.

Given that he's gay, what do you bet that said drug is Valtrex for herpes??? It's the preferred drug, and those with Type II genital herpes use buckets of it. If ZeroCare CMS let the provider take it off the list, this is a howler. If they offered a substitute, it'll probably be Zovirax, which is a lot cheaper.

In the "mean time," that means they both really "need it." Let's hope they stay that way for a good long while. It'll make those future "news" stories a heck of a lot more entertaining.

33 posted on 01/14/2014 5:09:16 AM PST by Carry_Okie (0-Care IS Medicaid; they'll pull a sheet over your head and take your home to pay for it.)
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How many people have been prevented from pursuing careers that would make them more productive and passionate out of fear that a health calamity could ruin them?

I think more people are prevented from pursuing careers that would make them "more productive and passionate" out of fear of losing everything they have, and/or of being regulated out of existence by the government.

And hey, here's a news flash for you: MOST people DON'T get to do what they're "passionate" about, they do what there's a demand for, and what they can find someone to pay them for. And it isn't the government's right to make people pay others (through taxes) to do nothing, or to do something they wouldn't otherwise pay them to do.

Oh, wait, I forgot that I was reading a piece written by a socialist.

34 posted on 01/14/2014 5:19:37 AM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell x)
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progressively less sense

What's the opposite of an oxymoron?

35 posted on 01/14/2014 5:21:28 AM PST by Sicon ("All animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others." - G. Orwell x)
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As we hoisted champagne flutes in the first seconds of 2014, my partner and I....

Stopped right there. I don't need to read anything from someone who lives and supports the homosexual agenda.

Next.

36 posted on 01/14/2014 5:21:40 AM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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I was so wrapped up in people thinking the GOP is evil I didnt notice they were gay

Ditto. I missed it too. A prior poster noted that Steve's husband, along with being a worthless emasculated fop, likely has HIV.

Stories like this make me miss being a Republican ... unfettered power, the capability to control the weather, to control the global econmy, to make any AND every liberal utterly miserable ..... all at the push of a button or the flip of a switch. :-)

37 posted on 01/14/2014 5:30:54 AM PST by wbill
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The depth of liberal stupidity is immeasurable. Maybe this true believer female will one day realize that she’s a useful idiot, but I doubt it. Your hope and change king doesn’t care about you, moron.


38 posted on 01/14/2014 5:32:23 AM PST by sergeantdave
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“”As we hoisted champagne flutes in the first seconds of 2014, my partner and I””

Stopped reading right there. Thats liberal upwardly hipster speak.


39 posted on 01/14/2014 5:37:37 AM PST by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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“”””We want the ACA to work; the previous status quo certainly did not.”””””

Caught this at the end. Uhhhh, yes, it was working just fine.


40 posted on 01/14/2014 5:38:52 AM PST by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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Yep, and don’t forget W and Carl Rove blew up the levee’s! lol


41 posted on 01/14/2014 5:40:56 AM PST by V_TWIN
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Yes just what America needs. More Progtards free to pursue their dreams of advanced Puppetry degrees and free lance writers blogging about Wymens struggle with the patriarch. That’s why they needed to blow up the healthcare that was working for over 80 % of the population.


42 posted on 01/14/2014 5:41:23 AM PST by Kozak ("Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms, to arms in Dixie!)
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His medication — which has cost us a co-pay of between $10 and $30 under every other plan he’s had since 2004 including one under Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan — would not be covered. At all . . . That’s $438 out of pocket. Every month. We are precisely the kind of folks they need to make these exchanges work. If it’s all poor, very sick people, Obama can kiss his legacy goodbye.

Steve actually thinks a monthly loss of at least ($438 minus $246) $212 on just one one prescription before any other treatment makes someone in an extremely high risk lifestyle "precisely the kind of folks they need to make these exchanges work"? These are educated liberals, and they are far stupider than I realized.

I have used insurance for multiple labor and delivery visits (a large but infrequent expense in most people's lives), for two terrible and shockingly expensive family disasters, and for annual routine expenses that are quite minor. Now that we're not having more kids, my insurance company is making money on my family and will continue to do so most years, as it should be. They were there and covered a whole series of surgeries and associated treatments when we had unexpected problems, which is what insurance is for, and I have no problem with them making a profit on average (which will NEVER happen with my family after what they spent, but the point is true in general). To expect Blue Cross to cover someone who will produce an annual loss, for decades, is absurd.

43 posted on 01/14/2014 5:41:42 AM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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Gee wonder which antiretroviral drug he’s whining about having to pay for?


44 posted on 01/14/2014 5:42:50 AM PST by Kozak ("Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms, to arms in Dixie!)
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To: V_TWIN

There are no women involved.


45 posted on 01/14/2014 5:44:17 AM PST by Kozak ("Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms, to arms in Dixie!)
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To: Truth29

I also noticed the “ his income” would qualify him for Medicaid. If they are married isn’t it THEIR Income. So if hubby #2 makes a living why should they be getting Obamastash money?


46 posted on 01/14/2014 5:47:34 AM PST by Kozak ("Send them back your fierce defiance! Stamp upon the cursed alliance! To arms, to arms in Dixie!)
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To: Truth29

Maybe its for prolapsed rectum.

(I am sure we know what that term means but DO NOT GOOGLE)


47 posted on 01/14/2014 5:50:46 AM PST by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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To: Cincinatus' Wife

Well, there have been persistent rumors floating around for years that Obama likes to screw homosexuals. Now we have, ahem, hard evidence.


48 posted on 01/14/2014 5:52:26 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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This a novel???????????????


49 posted on 01/14/2014 5:53:29 AM PST by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Yes. Husband and Husband.

Two grown men licking each others fecal matter. (sorry for the visual) And they speak of it like its totally normal... and the media and showbusiness celebrates it like its wonderful. Two grown men... going there... oh its so heart warming... SPIT PUKE!


50 posted on 01/14/2014 5:55:18 AM PST by envisio (Its on like Donkey Kong!)
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