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Fox: Administration knew within minutes that Benghazi was a terrorist attack
Hotair ^ | 01/14/2014 | Ed Morrissey

Posted on 01/14/2014 7:07:53 AM PST by SeekAndFind

To some extent we knew this already — Leon Panetta said so in open testimony, to which I’ll return later — but James Rosen at Fox confirms this understanding at the highest levels of the Obama administration within minutes of the attack. No one seriously thought it was a demonstration that had turned into a riot, despite the spin offered in the days after the attack left four Americans dead. And that leaves a lot of questions as to the lack of response:

Minutes after the American consulate in Benghazi came under assault on Sept. 11, 2012, the nation’s top civilian and uniformed defense officials — headed for a previously scheduled Oval Office session with President Obama — were informed that the event was a “terrorist attack,” declassified documents show. The new evidence raises the question of why the top military men, one of whom was a member of the president’s Cabinet, allowed him and other senior Obama administration officials to press a false narrative of the Benghazi attacks for two weeks afterward.

Gen. Carter Ham, who at the time was head of AFRICOM, the Defense Department combatant command with jurisdiction over Libya, told the House in classified testimony last year that it was him who broke the news about the unfolding situation in Benghazi to then-Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and Gen. Martin Dempsey, the chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. The tense briefing — in which it was already known that U.S. Ambassador to Libya Christopher Stevens had been targeted and had gone missing — occurred just before the two senior officials departed the Pentagon for their session with the commander in chief.

According to declassified testimony obtained by Fox News, Ham — who was working out of his Pentagon office on the afternoon of Sept. 11 — said he learned about the assault on the consulate compound within 15 minutes of its commencement, at 9:42 p.m. Libya time, through a call he received from the AFRICOM Command Center. …

Rep. Brad Wenstrup, R-Ohio, a first-term lawmaker with experience as an Iraq war veteran and Army reserve officer, pressed Ham further on the point, prodding the 29-year Army veteran to admit that “the nature of the conversation” he had with Panetta and Dempsey was that “this was a terrorist attack.”

The transcript reads as follows:

WENSTRUP: “As a military person, I am concerned that someone in the military would be advising that this was a demonstration. I would hope that our military leadership would be advising that this was a terrorist attack.”

HAM: “Again, sir, I think, you know, there was some preliminary discussion about, you know, maybe there was a demonstration. But I think at the command, I personally and I think the command very quickly got to the point that this was not a demonstration, this was a terrorist attack.”

WENSTRUP: “And you would have advised as such if asked. Would that be correct?”

HAM: “Well, and with General Dempsey and Secretary Panetta, that is the nature of the conversation we had, yes, sir.”

Panetta told the Senate Armed Services Committee in February of last year that it was him who informed the president that “there was an apparent attack going on in Benghazi.” “Secretary Panetta, do you believe that unequivocally at that time we knew that this was a terrorist attack?” asked Sen. Jim Inhofe, R-Okla. “There was no question in my mind that this was a terrorist attack,” Panetta replied.

Furthermore, the communication from the US military in Libya made clear from the start that this was a an attack, not a riot:

WESTRUP: “So no one from the military was ever advising, that you are aware of, that this was a demonstration gone out of control, it was always considered an attack -”

BRISTOL: “Yes, sir.”

WENSTRUP: “– on the United States?”

BRISTOL: “Yes, sir. … We referred to it as the attack.”

We have already known that Panetta got briefed from the start that this was a terrorist attack, from Panetta’s own lips. Presumably, that’s what he then told Barack Obama. What happened in between to cause them to claim it was a demonstration that got out of control? One charitable possibility is that the State Department or CIA might have claimed otherwise based on faulty intel — it happens, especially in the fog of war — or it could be that someone concocted that story to give them political cover for the lack of preparedness that this event demonstrated.

The Fox report also debunks the rumor that General Carter Ham received a stand-down order that night. As the classified testimony confirms, the American military was completely unprepared to deal with a terrorist attack in the region that night:

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TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: benghazi; benghazicoverup; bho44; libya; soshillary; terrorism
Why Mitt Romney did not pound this issue to death in the debates will always be a puzzle to me... It was a winner but Romney kept mum on it.
1 posted on 01/14/2014 7:07:53 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Who has time for this?

1 person may or may not have died because Chris Christie may or may not have ordered a lane of a bridge closed.


2 posted on 01/14/2014 7:09:45 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Candy Crowley instructed Mitt not to go there.


3 posted on 01/14/2014 7:10:06 AM PST by ClearCase_guy (Anti-Complacency League! Baby!)
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To: SeekAndFind
It was a winner but Romney kept mum on it.

He did address it shortly after it happened, and the entire assembled MSM launched a volley of cruise missiles right down his piehole. Like a good little Pubbie he quickly learned his lesson and crawled back into his hole.


4 posted on 01/14/2014 7:12:21 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SeekAndFind

There are tons of issues Romney could have raised. But neither he nor his party had any real intention of winning.


5 posted on 01/14/2014 7:12:27 AM PST by fatnotlazy
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To: SeekAndFind

Weakness. Mitt was weak.

Conviction makes one strong. Just saying...


6 posted on 01/14/2014 7:13:41 AM PST by Starboard
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To: fatnotlazy

HIS OWN SON came out and said Romney didn’t really want to be President.


7 posted on 01/14/2014 7:14:14 AM PST by Cowgirl of Justice
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To: SeekAndFind
This confirmation should cause even greater questioning:

8 posted on 01/14/2014 7:15:41 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t buy the notion he did not go there because he was too nice a guy. My sense tells me he, or someone on his staff, was told there was more going on in Benghazi then seen of the surface and to go into it would hurt “national security”. IMO, there is no rational reason for not going there as he could have clubbed Obozo with that again again and again and nothing that ass could have said would have saved him.

BTW, doing something like this with inside info is not beyond the Dem play book. Note how Kennedy bombed Nixon with the “missile gap” knowing full well we could have destroyed the soviets 50 times over.


9 posted on 01/14/2014 7:17:03 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: SeekAndFind
No one seriously thought it was a demonstration that had turned into a riot, despite the spin offered in the days after the attack left four Americans dead.

It wasn't 'spin' - it was a pattern of lies and the arrest of an innocent man.

Liars.

Hillary and Obama are sociopathic liars.

10 posted on 01/14/2014 7:17:17 AM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: GOPJ

RE: Hillary and Obama are sociopathic liars

Don’t forget the New York Times — their official mouthpiece.


11 posted on 01/14/2014 7:18:11 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

And so, once again, WHERE WAS OBAMA FOR 10 HOURS???


12 posted on 01/14/2014 7:18:40 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: TomGuy
Where did Obama go and what did he do for the several hours following the Benghazi slaughter of American?

He left a huge paper trail----he was "resting up" b/c he had a Las Vegas Democrat fund-raiser to attend next day.

13 posted on 01/14/2014 7:23:52 AM PST by Liz
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To: SeekAndFind

bam bam lied, Americans died


14 posted on 01/14/2014 7:24:03 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Why Mitt Romney did not pound this issue to death in the debates will always be a puzzle to me... It was a winner but Romney kept mum on it.

I think he was gun shy because of previous criticism that he was going off half-cocked before all the facts were in. I know that doesn't really apply to Benghazi but it's apparent to me that gentleman Romney wanted to give the lying POTUS the benefit of any doubts and thought he (Romney) could gain some credit for his fairness.He, instead, should have gone for "the one's" jugular.

15 posted on 01/14/2014 7:26:21 AM PST by luvbach1 (We are finished)
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To: TomGuy

It’s ridiculous and unbelievable that we can’t have an answer to that question.


16 posted on 01/14/2014 7:27:14 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheel barrow)
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To: Mr. K

“where was Obama for 10 hours?” I’ll take “What is Homosexual Sex” for a thousand Alec.


17 posted on 01/14/2014 7:30:20 AM PST by massgopguy (I owe everything to George Bailey)
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To: Mr. K

It is clear that the average American does not care about Benghazi. It is a sad state of our country where people care about Downton Abbey and the “going ons” on the show rather than real life tragedies.


18 posted on 01/14/2014 7:31:54 AM PST by napscoordinator ( Santorum-Bachmann 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: All
Obama and Hillary created a bizarro US foreign policy---dedicated to elevating the Muslim Brotherhood globally, and in the US, using OUR tax dollars.

Obama's quirky sideshow----a gay drumbeat, and act after act of self-made melanin "victims" whining....and collecting govt checks.....as assorted grievances multiply.

As usual, Obobo is on the wrong side. Coincidentally (snix), Russia and China (who would veto any UN move against Assad) have rallied behind Egyptian Gen al-Sisi and denounced the Muslim slaughter of Christans in Egypt.

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AS FREEPER PENELOPESIRE INSIGHTFULLY POSTED: Wait until the Saudis and Egyptians get through waterboarding the truth out of the Muslim Brotherhood leaders they have in custody!

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Gehad al Haddad, Muslim Brotherhood activist AND former Clinton employee.

Ghgad is sitting in a nice comfy Egyptian jail as we type. Gehad al Haddad is a Muslim Brotherhood spox--and a former employee of Hillary and Bill's tax-exempt foundation.

Gehad was arrested by the Egyptian military for inciting violence AT THE SAME TIME he was a Clinton employee.

Betcha Gehad knows plenty abt how the M/B uses tax-exempts for money-laundering (to finance their terror activities against America).

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All of Obama and Hillary’s little secrets on Benghazi and arming Islamists and Al Quaeda throughout the Middle East are going to come falling out of the bag.

19 posted on 01/14/2014 7:32:33 AM PST by Liz
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To: luvbach1

Gentleman? The way he treated the republicans in the primary? He mowed them down, outspent them ridiculously. And we knew he’d wimp out against Obama. And he did

No one wants to see that again. No one in their right mind is going to out up with such a RNC pick any more


20 posted on 01/14/2014 7:34:21 AM PST by stanne
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To: luvbach1
A walk down Memory Lane. The Internet never forgets. A couple of FR threads regarding Crowley and the presidential debate:

The Candy-Obama Controversy: 'Get the Transcript'

Re: 2nd debate: Was “get the transcript Candy” a pre-arranged and scripted setup?


21 posted on 01/14/2014 7:41:48 AM PST by TomGuy
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To: napscoordinator

The ‘average’ American doesn’t know crap about Benghazi because the MSM doesn’t cover it in a way that would evoke interest.

Don’t blame us for the biased MSM...


22 posted on 01/14/2014 7:48:04 AM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: Liz

Egypt will no doubt get the facts out of Al Haddad, but they won’t release it, they will extort kazillions from Obummer to keep it to themselves. And if Hillary runs and gets in, Egypt will help her run for office, coz’ then if she gets in, they can extort kazillions from her to keep it to themselves. Throw the bums out.


23 posted on 01/14/2014 8:11:37 AM PST by kiltie65
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To: Liz
Where did Obama go and what did he do for the several hours following the Benghazi slaughter of American?

He was watching his plan unravel before his very eyes.

It’s really not that complicated.

For the election, Obama needed to show that he could be tough on Islam.

He planned to have the Ambassador kidnapped and then he would get tough on the terrorists and they would give the Ambassador back. Obama a hero, election in the bag.

He stripped away all the security to make it easy. Problem was that some Navy Seals showed up and started kicking some Muslim butt. Terrorists figured they were set up and the real plan was to wipe them out. They thought that Obama was trying to be the hero by defending the Ambasador.

Things spin out of control, Ambassador is abused and killed Muslin style. Obama and Hillary have to go into spin and lie mode.

It seems to me that the facts of what happened seem to fit well into this scenario.

24 posted on 01/14/2014 8:41:28 AM PST by super7man
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To: kiltie65
Egypt will get the facts out of Al Haddad, but they will extort kazillions from Obummer to keep it to themselves. And if Hillary run, Egypt will help her run for office, coz’ then if she gets in, they can extort kazillions to keep it quiet.

Mmmmmm.......maybe not.

LET'S STROLL DOWN MEMORY LANE In 2009, Obama made a "Democrat Smart Power" suck-up speech in Cairo----"apologizing" for America's historical role in the Middle East. By snubbing Mubarak, Obama set the stage for the Egyptian president's overthrow by the Islamic mob.

When the worst-case scenario happened, when Obama's personal choice---Islamist Muslim Brotherhood, Mohamed Morsi, was elected president----Obama sap-happily sent his secretary of state, Hillary Clinton, to Cairo to personally kiss-up to Morsi....perhaps at that time hatching their plans to destroy Westen civiliation in compliance w/ Muslim dictates.

Obama's treacherous ill-advised component of US foreign policy----sucking up to the very people who want to kill us and destroy our churches. He portrayed teeming Muslim majorities there as "victims of Western colonialism and Cold War policies," stupidly promoting American-style democracy for these conflicting cultures w/ thousands of years of religious and territorial factionalism.

OBOBO'S SUCKUP "The relationship between Islam and the West includes centuries of coexistence and cooperation, but also conflict and religious wars," Obama said in the June 2009 speech in Cairo. "More recently, tension has been fed by colonialism that denied rights and opportunities to many Muslims, and a Cold War in which Muslim-majority countries were too often treated as proxies, without regard to their own aspirations."

Fast forward to 2013: the savage Muslim Brotherhood torched some 63 Egyptian churches and many Christian businesses. Obama ignored the bloodbath and spent the crisis dining out, golfing, power-partying, and vacationing in exclusive Martha’s Vineyard on the taxpayers' dime.

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During the post-Morsi crisis, vacationing Boobamba phoned Gen al-Sisi from M/V. But al-Sisi refused to take the call, knowing Boobamba planned to order the general to call off his beating back the Muslim Brotherhood.

Al-sisi proceeded to eviscerate the M/B. He is revered in Egypt b/c workaday Egyptians see the M/B as a terrorist organization (as we do). Egyptians are moving to vote Al sisi into the office of President----a prospect abhorred by Hillary and Obama who desperately want M/B Morsi back in.

25 posted on 01/14/2014 11:47:54 AM PST by Liz
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To: super7man
RE: BENGHAZI---Obama needed to show that he could be tough on Islam (Americans were suspicious of all his M/B advisors in govt jobs). He colluded w/ Muzzies to hatch a plan to kidnap our US Ambassador......then Boobamba would stage his phony " get tough on the terrorists" act...... the M/B would give the Ambassador back to make Obama look like a hero.

Very, v-e-r-y plausible....story also accounts for SofS Hillary's strange statements....which seemed to acknowledge this Machiavellian plot.

26 posted on 01/14/2014 11:54:13 AM PST by Liz
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To: SeekAndFind

Benghazi was so ancient history.

Everything is still Bush’s fault.


27 posted on 01/14/2014 1:07:25 PM PST by Organic Panic
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To: TomGuy

bttt


28 posted on 01/14/2014 3:15:15 PM PST by Pagey (HELL is The 2nd Term of a POTUS who uses the terms “social justice” and “fair distribution".)
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To: SeekAndFind

So, He’s a liar, She’s a liar and they are liars!


29 posted on 01/14/2014 3:17:54 PM PST by jetson (THE)
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To: Liz

You got it!


30 posted on 01/14/2014 7:14:49 PM PST by super7man
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