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Israeli Defense Minister to Kerry: 'Leave Us in Peace' (Slams Kerry)
CBN ^ | January 14, 2014 | CBN News

Posted on 01/14/2014 7:48:12 AM PST by xzins

JERUSALEM, Israel -- While U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry presses ahead with trying to create a Palestinian state by this spring, a senior Israeli government minister says Kerry doesn't know what he's talking about.

"The only thing that can 'save us' is for John Kerry to win a Nobel [Peace] Prize and leave us in peace," Defense Minister Moshe Ya'alon said.

Ya'alon made headlines Tuesday over remarks he reportedly made in private conversations both abroad and at home, according to the Israeli daily Yediot Ahronot.

"Secretary of State John Kerry, who came here very determined and operates based on an unfathomable obsession and messianic feeling, cannot teach me anything about the Palestinians…I live and breathe the conflict with the Palestinians. I know what they think, what they want and what they really mean," said Ya'alon, himself a former Israel Defense Forces chief of staff.

In private conversations, Ya'alon reportedly called the security plan presented by U.S. Gen. (ret.) John Allen untenable for the Jewish state.

"The American security plan presented to us is not worth the paper it's written on," he said. "It contains no peace and no security. Only our continued presence in Judea and Samaria [the West Bank] and the Jordan River will guarantee that Ben Gurion Airport [Israel's main international airport] and [the northern coastal city] Netanya do not become targets for missiles from every direction."

Ya'alon criticized the notion that technology could replace soldiers in the field.

"You presented us with a plan based on smart technologies, satellites, sensors, war rooms with television screens, without our forces being present on the ground," Ya'alon continued.

"And I ask you, how will your technology help us when a Salafist terror cell or one from Islamic Jihad tries to carry out a terror attack against Israeli targets? Who will take care of them? What satellites will take care of the rocket industry developing in Shechem [Nablus], and the rockets that will be launched at Tel Aviv and the central region?"

Ya'alon called negotiations between Israel and the Palestinian Authority illusory.

"There are no negotiations with the Palestinians. The Americans are holding negotiations with us and in parallel with the Palestinians," he explained. "So far, we are the only side to have given anything -- the release of murderers -- and the Palestinians have given nothing."

On releasing more convicted terrorists, Ya'alon said "enough is enough."

"We have given enough and received nothing," he said. "Let us say to our American friends, 'enough is enough.'"


TOPICS: Front Page News; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: incompetence; kerry

1 posted on 01/14/2014 7:48:12 AM PST by xzins
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"Secretary of State John Kerry, who came here very determined and operates based on an unfathomable obsession and messianic feeling, cannot teach me anything about the Palestinians
2 posted on 01/14/2014 7:48:47 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins
Kerry doesn't know what he's talking about

Oh he totally knows what he is talking about. It's just you can misunderstand him if you didn't know he's a terror, commie supporting back stabbing traitorous SOB.

3 posted on 01/14/2014 7:50:57 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: xzins

In other words “Sod Off” horseface.


4 posted on 01/14/2014 7:51:22 AM PST by AU72
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To: xzins
unfathomable obsession and messianic feeling

This describes liberals in general.

5 posted on 01/14/2014 7:52:29 AM PST by Starboard
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To: xzins
"Secretary of State John Kerry, who came here very determined and operates based on an unfathomable obsession and messianic feeling, cannot teach me anything about the Palestinians…I live and breathe the conflict with the Palestinians. I know what they think, what they want and what they really mean," said Ya'alon, himself a former Israel Defense Forces chief of staff.

That about says it all.

6 posted on 01/14/2014 7:53:59 AM PST by pgkdan
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To: AU72

I love the duel meaning of the comment about getting a nobel prize...think the def minister was alluding to Odope, bet on it!


7 posted on 01/14/2014 7:54:10 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: xzins
I know what they think, what they want and what they really mean,” said Ya’alon.

Lurch, on the other hand, is a clueless dullard that knows more about ketchup than he does about Palestine.

8 posted on 01/14/2014 7:58:38 AM PST by PATRIOT1876
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To: pgkdan

That really struck me, too. That Israeli knows Palestinians, and the entire gives the impression, that they know they’re wasting their time with “negotiations” with Palestinians. They only do it so American politicians can have sound bites.

Amazing how stupid Kerry is.


9 posted on 01/14/2014 7:59:19 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Re: Kerry doesn't know what he's talking about

Oh he totally knows what he is talking about. It's just you can misunderstand him if you didn't know he's a terror, commie supporting back stabbing traitorous SOB.

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"Shortly after taking office in 1985, Kerry and Senator Tom Harkin of Iowa went on a fact-finding trip to Nicaragua, where they met with Daniel Ortega (right) and other Sandinistas. The trip was criticized when the Sandinistas cemented ties with Moscow."

http://www.boston.com/globe/nation/packages/kerry/062003.shtml
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"Under questioning from the Committee, Kerry referred to the democratically elected government of South Vietnam -- our allies -- as a "dictatorial regime, the Thieu-Ky-Khiem regime," while respectfully calling the North Vietnamese communist regime we were fighting by its oxymoronic official name, the Democratic Republic of Vietnam, and the murderous Viet Cong's political arm by their preferred "Provisional Revolutionary Government.":
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/lindachavez/lc20040428.shtml
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"After being transferred out of combat duty, Kerry was restationed in New York in early 1969. By late 1969 his older sister Peggy was already involved in the antiwar movement, working for the Vietnam Moratorium Committee (VMC). That October, she recruited John as a pilot to fly Adam Walinsky, a key leader of the New York office of the VMC, to VMC-organized antiwar demonstrations. Kerry, who was still on active duty in the US Naval Reserve, later boasted that he had been “smart enough not to put down ‘Moratorium’ on the Navy signout sheet for that Tuesday and Wednesday”."

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/1241847/posts
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Here are a couple of photos of the Vietnam Moratorium Committee (VMC) in action...

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10 posted on 01/14/2014 8:00:27 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: xzins

Obama actually managed to find a new sec of state that’s more embarrassing and less competent than was Hilly. Astounding!


11 posted on 01/14/2014 8:01:36 AM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: xzins

AMEN! This is a strong leader.


12 posted on 01/14/2014 8:01:41 AM PST by servantboy777
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To: xzins

13 posted on 01/14/2014 8:01:49 AM PST by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: ETL; GrandJediMasterYoda

You all are right on the money about Kerry being a commie.

But, Ya’alon was talking about Kerry’s knowledge of the Palestinians.


14 posted on 01/14/2014 8:02:59 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

“The only thing that can ‘save us’ is for John Kerry to win a Nobel [Peace] Prize and leave us in peace,”

While I like that foreign dignitaries are putting Kerry in place, this bothers me. Not that Ya’alon would say it, but how unprecedented the level of incompetence is. When someone as high up as Defense minister from an ally nation would be so fed up, and bold to insult the Secretary of State, demonstrates where our standing is in the world.

I think I always knew Kerry was a laughing stock, but this confirms it. Imagine what the manly enemies in Iran and Afghanistan are thinking about him.


15 posted on 01/14/2014 8:04:23 AM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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16 posted on 01/14/2014 8:07:48 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: xzins

The Obama administration came into office with the intent to make America switch sides in the war on terror.


17 posted on 01/14/2014 8:09:11 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: xzins
Looks like Bibi has washed his hands of being accommodating to the Regime.

The only question is when Israel will strike Iran.

18 posted on 01/14/2014 8:11:02 AM PST by AU72
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To: xzins
The Mideast peace process always seems to be the last refuge a failed American administration tries to hide behind, and Obama is a preeminent example.

Obama has basically destabilized all four corners of the globe, from Egypt and Iraq to Africa and Russia. He has alienated our allies, such as Germany and Great Britain and others. No one trusts him. Everybody sees him as weak, vacillating, and hollow - someone more interested in basketball brackets than in substantive issues beyond hard partisanship.

Therefore, Obama is looking for something - anything - by which to hold up as a success.

Our foreign relations are a disaster, as noted above.

Obamacare is a disaster.

Our economy is a disaster.

The Obama administration is corrupt and lawless.

Obama needs something to try and claim success so they are looking to beat the snot out of Israel to force Israel to concede even more all for the selfish provision of trying to make Obama look good. Israel would be utterly foolish to assist in this Obama rehabilitation charade.

19 posted on 01/14/2014 8:19:35 AM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: xzins
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20 posted on 01/14/2014 8:23:16 AM PST by One_American
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To: xzins

If only a majority of U.S. Jews rationally saw the world like this guy does.


21 posted on 01/14/2014 9:10:25 AM PST by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

And here we just ‘thought’ that it couldn’t get any worse in the Obamanation. If we only knew....that Obama would once again and as usual thumb his nose and extend his index finger to America and to all Americans by appointing the traitorous POS Hanoi John Kerry (who was in VietNam AND Cambodia once)....to fill the former SOS position of the former traitorous POS, Hillary Clinton. I’m guessing that it won’t be necessary to ask the Israelis “pitchfork time yet?”. They’re “”getting it””....and a helluva lot faster than most asleep-at-the-switch, mind-numbed Americans.


22 posted on 01/14/2014 9:11:01 AM PST by XenaLee (The only good commie is a dead commie)
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To: ETL

That’s exactly why our admitted foreign born twice unconstitutionally elected Islamic Kenyan faux POTUS made him Secretary of state.


23 posted on 01/14/2014 9:30:32 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: xzins

“Let us say to our American friends, ‘enough is enough.’”

Finally, an adult speaks.


24 posted on 01/14/2014 9:35:02 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Obama's a communist. He hasn't a serious religious bone in his body. Communists only PRETEND on occasion to have a religious faith when they think it will benefit them. His so-called "Black Liberation Theology" that he studied under Jeremiah "G-D America" Wright is an entirely bogus church movement created by communists decades ago in Latin America.

Obama's Church: Gospel of Hate
Kathy Shaidle, FrontPageMag.com
Monday, April 07, 2008

In March of 2007, FOX News host Sean Hannity had engaged Obama’s pastor in a heated interview about his Church’s teachings. For many viewers, the ensuing shouting match was their first exposure to "Black Liberation Theology"...

Like the pro-communist Liberation Theology that swept Central America in the 1980s and was repeatedly condemned by Pope John Paul II, Black Liberation Theology combines warmed-over 1960s vintage Marxism with carefully distorted biblical passages. However, in contrast to traditional Marxism, it emphasizes race rather than class. The Christian notion of "salvation" in the afterlife is superseded by "liberation" on earth, courtesy of the establishment of a socialist utopia.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=30CD9E14-B0C9-4F8C-A0A6-A896F0F44F02
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Catholics for Marx [Liberation Theology]
By Fr. Robert Sirico
FrontPageMagazine.com | Thursday, June 03, 2004

In the days when the Superpowers were locked in a Cold War, Latin America seethed with revolution, and millions lived behind an iron curtain, a group of theologians concocted a novel idea within the history of Christianity. They proposed to combine the teachings of Jesus with the teachings of Marx as a way of justifying violent revolution to overthrow the economics of capitalism.

The Gospels were re-rendered not as doctrine impacting on the human soul but rather as windows into the historical dialectic of class struggle. These "liberation theologians" saw every biblical criticism of the rich as a mandate to expropriate the expropriating owners of capital, and every expression of compassion for the poor as a call for an uprising by the proletarian class of peasants and workers.
http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Read.aspx?GUID=460782B7-35CC-4C9E-A2C5-93832067C7CD

25 posted on 01/14/2014 9:36:43 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda
Liberation Theology and the KGB

Jay Richards | February 2, 2010

The presence of Marxism in liberation theology is well-known, at least to seminarians who are critical readers. Practically every seminarian reads Gustavo Gutierrez’s Theology of Liberation at some point, but most laypeople find it hard to believe that there could have been (and continues to be) a widespread attempt to hybridize Christian theology and Marxism.

Marxist regimes obviously benefitted from the spread of liberation theology in the churches. Still, I was not aware of any connections between liberation theology and communist clandestine organizations until now.

A new article by Robert D. Chapman in the International Journal of Intelligence and Counterintelligence begins to connect some dots. In “The Church in Revolution,” Chapman, “a retired operations officer in the Clandestine Services Division of the Central Intelligence Agency,” argues that the KGB infiltrated the Russian Orthodox Church through Metropolitan Nikodim, the Russian Orthodoxy’s second-ranking prelate. Nikodim was a proponent of liberation theology. Nikodim was active in the otherwise-Protestant World Council of Churches. And the WCC, of course, became an actively left-wing organization during the last half of the 20th century.

Chapman also details the growth of liberation theology in Latin America—and the Vatican’s struggles with it—and the growth of black liberation theology in the United States. Prominent proponents of the latter include James Cone and Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

The arguments of liberation theologians should be challenged on their merits. The source of an argument, after all, doesn’t establish its truth or falsity. Still, it’s interesting to learn that liberation theology may have been, at least in part, a project of the KGB.

Unfortunately, this isn’t just history. Chapman concludes ominously:

"the Theology of Liberation doctrine is one of the most enduring and powerful to emerge from the KGB’s headquarters. The doctrine asks the poor and downtrodden to revolt and form a Communist government, not in the name of Marx or Lenin, but in continuing the work of Jesus Christ, a revolutionary who opposed economic and social discrimination.

A friend of mine, a head of Catholic social services in my area and formerly a priest, is a liberation theologian. He has made a number of humanitarian trips to Central America and told me, ‘‘liberation theology is alive and well.’’ The same can be said of its sibling in the United States [ie, Black Liberation Theology]."

http://www.aei-ideas.org/2010/02/liberation-theology-and-the-kgb/

Here's some related info...

But first, Riverside Church is directly across the street from Columbia University. During the 1980s Obama and Bill Ayers attended college mere blocks apart from each other (at the same time), Obama at Columbia College, a part of Columbia U, and Ayers at Bank Street College, a couple blocks away. Also directly across the street from Riverside Church is the Union Theological Seminary. That is where black communist, James Cone, was teaching when he, with probable KGB assistance, concocted his Black Liberation Theology.
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From David Horowitz's FrontPageMag.com/DiscoverTheNetworks.org:
Profile: Institute For Policy Studies (IPS)

IPS’s [Institute For Policy Studies] Washington, DC headquarters quickly became a resource center for national reporters and a place for KGB agents from the nearby Soviet embassy to convene and strategize.

Cora Weiss headed one of the IPS's most successful forays -- into Riverside Church in Manhattan. She was invited there in 1978 by the Reverend William Sloane Coffin to run the church's Disarmament Program, which sought to consolidate Soviet nuclear superiority in Europe -- in the name of "peace."

In 1982 Weiss helped organize the largest pro-disarmament demonstration ever held. Staged in New York City, the rally was attended by a coalition of communist organizations.

During her decade-long tenure at Riverside, which became home to the National Council of Churches, Weiss regularly received Russian KGB agents, Sandinista friends, and Cuban intelligence agents. Weiss became infamous for her role in the psychological warfare conducted against U.S. prisoners of war held in the infamous "Hanoi Hilton" during the Vietnam War.

The Liberation News Service, which is a news source for hundreds of "alternative" publications nationwide (with antiwar, Marxist-oriented perspectives), was founded in 1967 with IPS assistance."

[lots more at link...]

http://www.discoverthenetworks.org/groupProfile.asp?grpid=6991

26 posted on 01/14/2014 9:38:53 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL
thanks, for the ping/post.

27 posted on 01/14/2014 9:41:23 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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To: xzins
senior Israeli government minister says Kerry doesn't know what he's talking about.

Americans with a brain have known this ever since Kerry lied to congress back in 1971 not to mention his "purple heart" and other fabricated war stories about his 'service'.

"The American security plan presented to us is not worth the paper it's written on," Obama's legacy on foreign policy will go down in history as one of, in not THE worst in American History.

Pray for Israel - Obama appears to be pulling for the terrorists.........

28 posted on 01/14/2014 9:58:51 AM PST by yoe
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To: demshateGod

Kerry absolutely deserves it! He’s practically turned Israel into his second home the last few months showing up there every week to pressure Israel to cave not only to a nuclear Iran but to the other terror groups as well!


29 posted on 01/14/2014 10:01:23 AM PST by Dave346
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To: yoe; tet68
Pray for Israel - Obama appears to be pulling for the terrorists.........

The fervent prayer of a righteous man avails much.

30 posted on 01/14/2014 10:08:50 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Dave346

Hillary Clinton set the record with 401 travel days, breaking the prior mark of George P. Shultz who traveled 357 days.

But John Kerry is well on his way to breaking that mark having traveled 140 days since he took office February 1! That means he’s been on the road on official business more than 40% of the time!


31 posted on 01/14/2014 10:14:03 AM PST by Dave346
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To: GrandJediMasterYoda

Well, one might need an official Kerry decoder ring-—it’s disguised as a bottle of ketchup. If you think you understand him just shove your own bottle of ketchup in your own ear——that should get your mind right. Calling him a blowhard is a great dis-service to standard blowhards.


32 posted on 01/14/2014 10:31:58 AM PST by cherokee1 (skip the names---just kick the buttz)
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To: xzins

Sounds like it may be time for Obama to go there with a six pack and have a beer conference with the two sides. After all, he is a Nobel “Peace” Prize recipient.


33 posted on 01/14/2014 11:25:18 AM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Remember Ty Woods? Glenn Doherty ? Forgot already?)
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To: xzins
"The only thing that can 'save us' is for John Kerry to win a Nobel [Peace] Prize and leave us in peace," Defense Minister Moshe Ya'alon said.

Wonderful!

I REALLY like the Israelis.

34 posted on 01/14/2014 11:27:14 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: PATRIOT1876

...and he knows nothing about ketchup.


35 posted on 01/14/2014 11:28:08 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: faithhopecharity

Truth be told, it wasn’t really all THAT difficult.

After all, he was choosing from a list of democrats.

;-)


36 posted on 01/14/2014 11:32:35 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: xzins
Amazing how stupid Kerry is.

Sadly it tells us more about how stupid Israel can be, when they know there will be no peace through negotiation. Peace for Palestine is defined as, no Israel. How many times must we see maps that exclude Israel entirely and those Middle Eastern States are not the only ones drawing them up.

Secret Side Deal with Iran

37 posted on 01/14/2014 11:34:23 AM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: xzins

Defense Minister Moshe Ya’alon described John Kerry 100% accurtaely. Lurch is a brainless robotic conscienceless glory seeker and always has been. If screwing Israel puts him in the history books then he will do it....is doing it or trying too.

Kerry being 50% Jewish via his grandparents.... very disgraceful


38 posted on 01/14/2014 11:34:25 AM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: AU72
The only question is when Israel will strike Iran.

Bibi is Sir Talks A Lot, and gives a lot. Iran has become a nuclear state, with our blessing.

The Quisling fiefdoms will go hat in hand to Iran soon enough, unless they can con Israel into doing what they fear to do, and hope that Israel will be weak enough for them to do what Iran dreamed of.

39 posted on 01/14/2014 11:42:34 AM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: xzins

They criticize Kerry but I don’t remember the Sec. of State getting one (Noebel Prize) in conncection with the Camp David accord back in the 1970’s.

Shouldn’t Obama get the credit or blame since he’s ultimately behind this phony peace process.


40 posted on 01/14/2014 2:17:41 PM PST by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: dennisw

Back about 75 years ago a guy like John Kerry would have been tried for treason and put to death. Our country is finished and Israel is finished if they let Iran get away with this.


41 posted on 01/14/2014 2:19:00 PM PST by My Favorite Headache (In a world where I feel so small, I can't stop thinking big.)
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To: xzins

42 posted on 01/14/2014 3:55:33 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: One_American

Quit insulting Lurch. What did he ever do to you? :(


43 posted on 01/15/2014 2:27:18 PM PST by BigEdLB (Now there ARE 1,000,000 regrets - but it may be too late.)
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To: onyx
This is all anyone needs to know about the "peace process." As long as Israel insists on being recognized as a Jewish state the moslems will refuse to make peace. John Kerry can do and say whatever he wants, it won't make a whit of difference.

All past efforts, talk of "confidence building" and "concessions" and "land for peace" were of no avail. Nonsense like "right of return" and "where's the capitol" are meaningless distractions. Nothing will budge the moslems, until the Israelis are willing to give up their Jewish heritage. If that happens then they may as well fold up the tent anyway.

44 posted on 01/17/2014 3:54:06 PM PST by hinckley buzzard
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To: xzins
How long Oh Lord will you let us suffer from the evil Obama, Kerry, Hillary, Holder, Reid, Pelosi, and all their lying, murdering, thieving, destroying, unholy; actions along with their the slothful, sinful, immoral, communist, ungodly, brainless, liberal, homo, baby killing supporters and enablers?
45 posted on 01/17/2014 4:15:39 PM PST by Mat_Helm
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