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Jackson: Gun owner unarmed, unwelcome in Maryland
The Tampa Tribune ^ | 1-14-2014 | Tom Jackson

Posted on 01/14/2014 5:49:44 PM PST by servo1969

John Filippidis, silver-haired family man, business owner, employer and taxpayer, is also licensed to carry a concealed firearm.

He’d rather he didn’t feel the need, “but things aren’t like they used to be. The break-ins, the burglaries, all the crime. And I carry cash a lot of the time. I’m constantly going to the bank.

“I wanted to be able to defend my family, my household and the ground I’m standing on. But I’m not looking for any trouble.”

Filippidis keeps his gun — a palm-sized Kel-Tec .38 semiautomatic, barely larger than a smartphone in a protective case — in one of two places, always: in the right-hand pocket of his jeans, or in the safe at home.

“There are kids in the house,” Filippidis says, “and I don’t think they’d ever bother with it, but I don’t want to take any chances.”

He’s not looking for any trouble, after all.

Trouble, in fact, was the last thing on his mind a few weeks back as the Filippidises packed for Christmas and a family wedding in Woodridge, N.J., so he left the pistol locked in the safe. The state of Florida might have codified his Second Amendment rights, but he knew he’d be passing through states where recent U.S. Supreme Court decisions affirming the rights of individuals to keep and bear arms have been met by hostile legislatures and local officials.

“I know the laws and I know the rules,” Filippidis says. There are, after all, ways gun owners can travel legally with firearms through hostile states. “But I just think it’s a better idea to leave it home.”

So there the Filippidises were on New Year’s Eve eve, southbound on Interstate 95 — John; wife Kally (his Gulf High sweetheart); the 17-year-old twins Nasia and Yianni; and 13-year-old Gina in their 2012 Ford Expedition — just barely out of the Fort McHenry Tunnel into Maryland, blissfully unarmed and minding their own business when they noticed they were being bird-dogged by an unmarked patrol car. It flanked them a while, then pulled ahead of them, then fell in behind them.

“Ten minutes he’s behind us,” John says. “We weren’t speeding. In fact, lots of other cars were whizzing past.”

“You know you have a police car behind you, you don’t speed, right?” Kally adds.

Says John, “We keep wondering, is he going to do something?”

Finally the patrol car’s emergency lights come on, and it’s almost a relief. Whatever was going on, they’d be able to get it over with now. The officer — from the Transportation Authority Police, as it turns out, Maryland’s version of the New York-New Jersey Port Authority — strolls up, does the license and registration bit, and returns to his car.

According to Kally and John (but not MTAP, which, pending investigation, could not comment), what happened next went like this:

Ten minutes later he’s back, and he wants John out of the Expedition. Retreating to the space between the SUV and the unmarked car, the officer orders John to hook his thumbs behind his back and spread his feet. “You own a gun,” the officer says. “Where is it?”

“At home in my safe,” John answers.

“Don’t move,” says the officer.

Now he’s at the passenger’s window. “Your husband owns a gun,” he says. “Where is it?”

First Kally says, “I don’t know.” Retelling it later she says, “And that’s all I should have said.” Instead, attempting to be helpful, she added, “Maybe in the glove [box]. Maybe in the console. I’m scared of it. I don’t want to have anything to do with it. I might shoot right through my foot.”

The officer came back to John. “You’re a liar. You’re lying to me. Your family says you have it. Where is the gun? Tell me where it is and we can resolve this right now.”

Of course, John couldn’t show him what didn’t exist, but Kally’s failure to corroborate John’s account, the officer would tell them later, was the probable cause that allowed him to summon backup — three marked cars joined the lineup along the I-95 shoulder — and empty the Expedition of riders, luggage, Christmas gifts, laundry bags; to pat down Kally and Yianni; to explore the engine compartment and probe inside door panels; and to separate and isolate the Filippidises in the back seats of the patrol cars.

Ninety minutes later, or maybe it was two hours — “It felt like forever,” Kally says — no weapon found and their possessions repacked, the episode ended ... with the officer writing out a warning.

“All that time, he’s humiliating me in front of my family, making me feel like a criminal,” John says. “I’ve never been to prison, never declared bankruptcy, I pay my taxes, support my 20 employees’ families; I’ve never been in any kind of trouble.”

Face red, eyes shining, John pounds his knees. “And he wants to put me in jail. He wants to put me in jail. For no reason. He wants to take my wife and children away and put me in jail. In America, how does such a thing happen? ... And after all that, he didn’t even write me a ticket.”

Now, despite having fielded apologies from the officer’s captain as well as from a Maryland Transportation Authority Police internal affairs captain, John is wondering if he shouldn’t just cancel his CCW license.

For a guy who’s not looking for trouble, that’s not an unreasonable conclusion. And it would please fans of gun control by any means. But let’s hope John Filippidis, American family man, taxpayer and good guy, doesn’t cave, because it would be a sad statement about the brittleness of our guarantees — some would call them sacred — under the Constitution.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; US: Florida; US: Maryland; US: New Jersey
KEYWORDS: banglist; ccw; donutwatch; guncontrol; johnfilippidis; police; policestate; reciprocity; tyranny
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John is wondering if he shouldn’t just cancel his CCW license.

Maryland Transportation Authority: Mission Accomplished.

1 posted on 01/14/2014 5:49:44 PM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969

Tom Jackson Tampa Tribune-

“Warning was for speeding. That detail slipped through the cracks of the creative process. Sorry.”


2 posted on 01/14/2014 5:51:24 PM PST by servo1969
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To: servo1969

“Warning” for what? Sue the bastards. I lost any respect I had for police years ago.


3 posted on 01/14/2014 5:52:51 PM PST by ozzymandus
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To: servo1969

with the officer writing out a warning.

FOR WHAT???

This NAZI needs to be relieved of HIS gun, his car, his uniform AND his JOB!!!!

This guy should file charges against him for harassment and unlawful restraint.


4 posted on 01/14/2014 5:55:12 PM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: servo1969

The only good thing about maryland (THE Freak state) is that they don’t have razor wire barricades keeping you in that LIB asylum.


5 posted on 01/14/2014 5:55:21 PM PST by ogen hal (First amendment or reeducation camp)
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To: servo1969

Sue the officer and demand that he go through an Internal Affairs investigation. Make sure that the “demand” is in written form and sent to the Chief of the Transit Authority.
Have a lawyer sign off on it too. Makes more of an impact and will “get attention”.

It will go into the officer’s permanent file and will haunt his career till he retires. More valid complaints and he is out on his ass.

Been there. Done that. By by to some aholes with badges.

PS> My son is a good police officer, unlike some of the other officers he has has to deal with over the years.

Keep the CCW permit. Crime is rising in Florida, and Maryland, and anywhere a Democrat runs a state.


6 posted on 01/14/2014 5:56:46 PM PST by MadMax, the Grinning Reaper
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To: servo1969

The officer wrote out a warning for what? And his wife needs some basic education to stop talking and resist the urge to fill the silence before an interrogator. The urge to talk is one of the most powerful tools to get the undisciplined to trip themselves up, even if they have nothing to hide.


7 posted on 01/14/2014 5:57:14 PM PST by Truth29
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To: servo1969

He should get an attorney and sue.


8 posted on 01/14/2014 5:58:00 PM PST by detective
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To: servo1969

A lot of weirdness about this. I assume this “officer” has jurisdiction in the tunnel? Still a bit weird that the opening conversation with the officer is “Where’s the gun?” Maryland is a constitution free zone with extreme limits on gun possession and transport of even legal firearms.


9 posted on 01/14/2014 5:59:20 PM PST by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: servo1969

All cops are scum. Period.


10 posted on 01/14/2014 6:01:38 PM PST by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: servo1969
good thing there wasn't a Jack Russel or something in the car cause God knows WHAT might have happened...
11 posted on 01/14/2014 6:01:46 PM PST by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: servo1969
Filippidis keeps his gun — a palm-sized Kel-Tec .38 semiautomatic...

I doubt that.

12 posted on 01/14/2014 6:11:00 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: servo1969
I would sue with the objective that it go clear to court and that the testimony be heard and put into the public record. They will be awarded a settlement. After that I would use every way possible to get all the publicity I could get out of it. As an earlier poster recommended, demand an internal investigation as well and force that information out in court.

The only way this stops is if we force them to pay big both in money and the court of public opinion. We have to make things like this hurt the ones who are doing the damage in every legal way we can.

13 posted on 01/14/2014 6:12:19 PM PST by oldenuff2no ( .)
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To: Truth29

Yup, the wife was a real dummie
Nervous lips sink ships
Lucky they didn’t give her and the teenager a full body cavity search. must not have been attracted to them

But then what American minding their own business ever expects to be treated this way?

TSA isn’t humiliating middle Americans enough so now they go out on the highways and hunt people down?


14 posted on 01/14/2014 6:15:13 PM PST by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: servo1969

The officer and his supervisor are traitors to their country and to their personal oaths of office. When the time comes they will be so treated and I hope to live to see the day.


15 posted on 01/14/2014 6:16:23 PM PST by Billthedrill
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To: servo1969

This is and was nothing short of FELONY KIDNAPPING. See OJ in Vegas.


16 posted on 01/14/2014 6:17:34 PM PST by eyeamok
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To: detective

“He should get an attorney and sue.”

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I’m temporarily trapped in the Peoples’ Democrat State of Maryland. I’d LOVE to be on the civil jury if he does so.


17 posted on 01/14/2014 6:17:56 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: USNBandit
From the article:

>> Finally the patrol car’s emergency lights come on, and it’s almost a relief. Whatever was going on, they’d be able to get it over with now. The officer — from the Transportation Authority Police, as it turns out, Maryland’s version of the New York-New Jersey Port Authority — strolls up, does the license and registration bit, and returns to his car.
>> According to Kally and John (but not MTAP, which, pending investigation, could not comment), what happened next went like this:
>> Ten minutes later he’s back, and he wants John out of the Expedition. Retreating to the space between the SUV and the unmarked car, the officer orders John to hook his thumbs behind his back and spread his feet. “You own a gun,” the officer says. “Where is it?”

And there you have it ...the tunnel cop thought he had an easy mark: an out of state car. When the tunnel cop ran his license, he learned that Filippidis has a FL CCW ... and went full retard. Everything after follows as predictably as night follows day. The tunnel cop is a thinly disguised thug, and went off in a fit of jealous rage.

BTW, I assume that any polizei that has seen my plates or driver license knows that I have a CHL ... and probably knows some other things as well. I avoid contact with them like the plague.

18 posted on 01/14/2014 6:20:35 PM PST by NorthMountain
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To: servo1969

Don’t every hire someone in Maryland. The state sees small business owners as a unending stream of taxes, regardless of whether you still have anyone working in the state.

There is no good reason to go to that state.


19 posted on 01/14/2014 6:22:17 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: servo1969
M.T.A.

I've heard that song and dance before.

20 posted on 01/14/2014 6:22:18 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: Lurker

As a former LEO...no, not all of them.


21 posted on 01/14/2014 6:27:40 PM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: servo1969
Unfortunately, Mr. Filippidis didn't get the name of the officer.

In the future John, and anyone else reading this, get their name. It will lead to the head of the chain of command.

Then it will be necessary to put the officer and their family in jeopardy. Sad that it has come to this.

5.56mm

22 posted on 01/14/2014 6:28:09 PM PST by M Kehoe
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To: driftdiver

There is no good reason to go to that state.

Exactly. We never go to the Western Socialist states (Ca, Wa, Or) or East of the Mississippi .... nothing good ever happens in those places!


23 posted on 01/14/2014 6:29:49 PM PST by RetiredTexasVet (It's difficult to differentiate between a hog calling contest and a Senate rollcall.)
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To: TurboZamboni
I noticed that too. Pretty sure they left a ~zero~ off the caliber, lol.


24 posted on 01/14/2014 6:30:45 PM PST by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: servo1969
His first mistake was traveling within a state where the Democrats and Communists rule. I stay clear of liberal bastions. NY, MD, CT, NJ, NH, D.C., RI, MA, and IL can all take a flying leap. Don't go there or spend my money there. If there is a professional convention scheduled in one of those states, I just don't go.
25 posted on 01/14/2014 6:33:36 PM PST by vetvetdoug
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To: Lurker

I wouldn’t quite yet say ‘all’, but with each passing day you’re getting closer and closer to the ballpark’s main entrance.


26 posted on 01/14/2014 6:34:13 PM PST by tomkat
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To: servo1969

WHY does the state of Florida even let the permits holder info leave the state lines ???

Florida is partially at fault for providing such info when there is no Florida law being broken.


27 posted on 01/14/2014 6:34:23 PM PST by George from New England (escaped CT in 2006, now living north of Tampa)
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To: servo1969

Secondly file a complaint against the officer, actually all the officers involved. Contact a lawyer re possibility of suing department over u unlawful detention and civil rights violations. Also look into going after initiating officer personally.


28 posted on 01/14/2014 6:35:44 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: vetvetdoug

What about California, Colorado and Virginia? Nice places to visit but I wouldn’t want to live there.


29 posted on 01/14/2014 6:36:14 PM PST by 38special (For real, y'all.)
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To: deoetdoctrinae

If it were a rifle, could have been a .338 Laberdoodle.


30 posted on 01/14/2014 6:38:43 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: servo1969

EDUCATE YOUR WIFE!!!

Tell her YOU DON’T SPECULATE WITH LAW ENFORCEMENT!!!!!

Yes,
No,
I don’t know.

THAT IS ALL!!!!!


31 posted on 01/14/2014 6:45:38 PM PST by G Larry
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To: servo1969

Just never return to Maryland and certainly never spend another dime in that shiitehole.


32 posted on 01/14/2014 6:45:45 PM PST by RC one
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To: vetvetdoug
Add Texas to the list. They have been known to do body cavity searches on public highways. New Mexico as well.

(Thanks, drug warriors)

33 posted on 01/14/2014 6:50:56 PM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: George from New England

>> WHY does the state of Florida even let the permits holder info leave the state lines ??? <<

I think that info is typically tied to your driver’s license. It might be time to think about changing that.


34 posted on 01/14/2014 7:00:15 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: ZULU

Amen!


35 posted on 01/14/2014 7:00:17 PM PST by MeshugeMikey (This Message NOT Approved By The N.S.A.)
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To: 38special

Add in NY, NJ, IL, DE, CT, MA... I’m sure I missed a few blue hellholes.


36 posted on 01/14/2014 7:00:53 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: servo1969

I’m been stopped in NJ and NY with WV plates. Usually the first words out of their mouths is, “Do you have a firearm?” I always answer them truthfully. “No!”

Since when have states been making CCW info available to other jurisdictions. Sounds like maybe Florida needs to be sued too. The cop needs that so-called probable cause shoved up their ass.


37 posted on 01/14/2014 7:05:07 PM PST by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: USNBandit

Nice to live in a county where the sheriff doesn’t share his CCW files with ANYBODY.

The few times I’ve been traffic stopped, I’ve NEVER been asked if I’m packing.

Before we were married, wife got CCW in next county. She gets asked when she’s stopped.


38 posted on 01/14/2014 7:06:51 PM PST by G Larry
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To: servo1969

His wife should have gotten a ticket and fine for sheer stupidity—for talking too much, for being frightened of a gun, and for thinking she might shoot herself through the foot. What an idiot.


39 posted on 01/14/2014 7:09:23 PM PST by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: NorthMountain

In FL, if u have a ccw it does not come up during a tag check


40 posted on 01/14/2014 7:17:08 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: servo1969

Its obvious that the driver was profile being he was from a CCW state. The cop must have thought he had a fish, because Maryland has strict laws and no one in MD would ever think of having a gun on them. If they were so concerned about guns, maybe the cop should be reassigned to Baltimore. He’d catch a lot of fish there for sure if he stopped every car in town.


41 posted on 01/14/2014 7:20:58 PM PST by Bringbackthedraft (Remember Ty Woods? Glenn Doherty ? Forgot already?)
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To: Truth29

Isn’t that the truth, I can’t believe his wife did that!!! Not at all mitigating what that jackboot did, but she didn’t help her own husband’s case!


42 posted on 01/14/2014 7:30:29 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: M Kehoe

Yes, I’d like to email him/his dept and tell them what for. I don’t have any guns, the dog ate them.


43 posted on 01/14/2014 7:33:30 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: TurboZamboni; deoetdoctrinae

“Journalists” who know the difference between .38 caliber and 9mm kurtz (.380 auto) are exceptionally rare...


44 posted on 01/14/2014 7:36:19 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: vetvetdoug

Heck, I don’t care if I ever go north of the Mason-Dixon line anymore, and even some states below it now are iffy. I used to blithely drive by myself from Mississippi to Virginia to visit family-after reading a few years ago about a rash of assaults/rapes in broad daylight at service stations, I won’t drive there alone anymore. And haven’t flown in years, don’t feel up to being groped and treated worse than an illegal border-jumper by the government’s little Hitlers.


45 posted on 01/14/2014 7:38:04 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: G Larry

Our family rule of thumb in such situations-if my husband says it, I back it up.


46 posted on 01/14/2014 7:39:51 PM PST by mrsmel (One Who Can See)
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To: ozzymandus
‘First Kally says, “I don’t know.” Retelling it later she says, “And that’s all I should have said.” Instead, attempting to be helpful, she added, “Maybe in the glove [box]. Maybe in the console. I’m scared of it. I don’t want to have anything to do with it. I might shoot right through my foot.”’

Warning about the robotized Oprified ‘guns re terrible, they frighten me, Gee, I just wish you would get them out of out home’ mentality too many American woman have been brainwashed into by sitting in front of their TV sets absorbing the poison from ‘women's programs’.

47 posted on 01/14/2014 7:54:47 PM PST by robowombat
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To: ogen hal

turning maryland into scaryland


48 posted on 01/14/2014 8:03:06 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: deoetdoctrinae; TurboZamboni
And here I was all excited about a .38 Super pocket pistol. That would deliver a nasty sting.
49 posted on 01/14/2014 8:03:39 PM PST by kitchen (Even the walls have ears.)
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To: NorthMountain

Fishing expedition.


50 posted on 01/14/2014 8:04:08 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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