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1 posted on 01/14/2014 6:00:33 PM PST by John W
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Surely the NYT has more secrets they can release.


2 posted on 01/14/2014 6:05:00 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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a covert channel of radio waves that can be transmitted from tiny circuit boards and USB cards inserted surreptitiously into the computers

Yeah, when the NSA guys came to my house the other night, one of them asked if he could use my computer. So THAT'S what he was doing!

3 posted on 01/14/2014 6:12:20 PM PST by Right Wing Assault
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One set of paragraphs is subheaded “No Domestic Use Seen” . . . yeah right. They sure won’t be using them to keep Iran or the other Islamic terror nations in check.


4 posted on 01/14/2014 6:14:35 PM PST by Olog-hai
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The technology, which has been used by the agency since at least 2008, relies on a covert channel of radio waves that can be transmitted from tiny circuit boards and USB cards inserted surreptitiously into the computers.

I have often thought that it might be a good idea to build a Faraday cage around my computer. Maybe the time has come.

Faraday Cage .

5 posted on 01/14/2014 6:17:10 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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Wouldn't it be fun to start hearing stories from all over the country of the mysterious 'disappearance' of droves of these fascist Judas bastards ! ?



</rhetorical ? mark>

7 posted on 01/14/2014 6:23:38 PM PST by tomkat
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Reminds me of when I built a complex of servers, and needed to do some testing with some application folks at a remote site. The network guru was giving me grief, and wouldn’t let us past his firewalls in his routers. Brick wall. Time was running short, deadlines coming up, and bureaucracy wasn’t helping.

In desperation, I ran a single cable under the floor tiles from my servers to connections outside of his routers. Applications folks did their testing, then I undid the cable. Of course I protected the security of the network, as I previously had the the job the network manager now had. Sometimes it’s the simple things in life that get you past all the technological roadblocks in your path. What the NSA did is both simple and clever.


8 posted on 01/14/2014 6:23:56 PM PST by roadcat
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“N.S.A.’s activities are focused and specifically deployed against — and only against — valid foreign intelligence targets in response to intelligence requirements,” Vanee Vines, an agency spokeswoman, said in a statement.”

Hmmm... seems like I have heard something very similar before. Oh, yeah now I recall:

At the March Senate hearing, Mr. Wyden asked Mr. Clapper, “Does the N.S.A. collect any type of data at all on millions or hundreds of millions of Americans?”

“No, sir,” Mr. Clapper replied. “Not wittingly.”

Mr. Wyden said on Tuesday that he had sent his question to Mr. Clapper’s office a day before the hearing, and had given his office a chance to correct the misstatement after the hearing, but to no avail.

In an interview on Sunday with NBC News, Mr. Clapper acknowledged that his answer had been problematic, calling it “the least untruthful” answer he could give.”

Freegards


9 posted on 01/14/2014 6:25:42 PM PST by Ransomed
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as if nobody can open up a computer and see whats in it


11 posted on 01/14/2014 6:30:59 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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There was a time when conservatives cared about the release of sources and methods. Apparently that time has passed.


12 posted on 01/14/2014 6:33:23 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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that’s right all you need is hardware and a spy to install it… other than that it’s a breeze


14 posted on 01/14/2014 6:38:26 PM PST by Nifster
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?transmitted from tiny circuit boards and USB cards inserted surreptitiously into the computers.?

now how do they intend to get the physical access to do that??

I sense this story is Progpoganda for that very reason.

what they would want to spread this rumor is beyond me


15 posted on 01/14/2014 6:39:43 PM PST by MeshugeMikey (This Message NOT Approved By The N.S.A.)
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Leakage of information via electronic noise is not a new field of study. I used to work in a company that produced some of its products to Tempest standards for various government and military customers.

Being able to beam information back INTO a computer? We’re talking serious sci-fi here, IMHO. Not that there couldn’t be possible back doors like WiFi drivers. (WiFi sci-fi?) But computers have a myriad of diverse designs. It’s not as easy as foisting a virus on Windows.


25 posted on 01/14/2014 7:09:57 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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I’ll say it again.
That catalog of spy tech is a bunch of crap!

There is NO way that the state of the art in surveillance is reflected by that cheesy catalog...and no, it was cheap crap in 2008 when the catalog was supposedly produced.

That stuff would almost be believable if the catalog was dated in the late 80’s.

There’s just no way that the NSA sends a team to plant a circuit board in a PC.

The NSA runs it’s own state of the art chip FAB. Why would they buy retro stuff from contractors?

It’s now been possible for years to place a full rf transceiver inside an IC. They are even for sale to the general public now as cool new Internet-of-Things parts.

They would have ready made motherboards with modified ICs on them..ditto for HD controller boards, thumb drives..etc.
Stuffing a little extra board into a PC...it’s laughable.

I do believe that they grab computer gear in transit to a target and replace the boards inside....but they definitely don’t wedge in a small board that someone might notice.

The stuff described in that catalog is junk a bright 18yr old geek would put together at their workbench. If they actually are using crap like that then a lot of Engineers and technicians at NRO and NSA need to be fired.

The very idea that a group of spooks would hang out near a target with a briefcase radio unit is laughable. Why did NRO put up several large satellite systems in geosynchronous orbit? It cost a pretty penny to put up those sats with their monstrous dish antennas.

Now if I was told the FBI was still using such crummy gear, that I would believe. They still use GPS trackers on targeted cars that use huge battery packs..lol A guy found one on his car and put up photos on Hack-A-Day.

The only thing that makes sense to me is that catalog is a plant to fool the rubes.


27 posted on 01/14/2014 7:19:38 PM PST by Bobalu (The true secret to genius is in creativity, not in technical mechanics - Richard Feynman)
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Yet again, the NYT publishes information beneficial to our enemies.


32 posted on 01/14/2014 7:50:26 PM PST by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind. ~Steve Earle)
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A Cloudy PING.


33 posted on 01/14/2014 7:52:44 PM PST by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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Ping!


43 posted on 01/14/2014 8:24:17 PM PST by basil (2ASisters.org)
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I remember this discussion going as far back as the 1970’s at least where computers can “broadcast” data through its bus via the RFI (Radio Frequency Interference) they put out. I think back in the 1950’s, someone did something similar where they were able to program the computer to “play music” on a nearby transistor radio by manipulating the RFI it puts out. They did something similar in the 1970’s I think either using an old TRS-80 or an Altair 8800.


44 posted on 01/14/2014 8:47:30 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Mom I miss you! (8-20-1938 to 11-18-2013) Cancer sucks)
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I remember this discussion going as far back as the 1970’s at least where computers can “broadcast” data through its bus via the RFI (Radio Frequency Interference) they put out. I think back in the 1950’s, someone did something similar where they were able to program the computer to “play music” on a nearby transistor radio by manipulating the RFI it puts out. They did something similar in the 1970’s I think either using an old TRS-80 or an Altair 8800.


45 posted on 01/14/2014 8:47:30 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Mom I miss you! (8-20-1938 to 11-18-2013) Cancer sucks)
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For a whole lot less money they could just look under the keyboard where everybody saves a copy of their password.


48 posted on 01/14/2014 9:05:34 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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"“We do not use foreign intelligence capabilities to steal the trade secrets of foreign companies on behalf of — or give intelligence we collect to — U.S. companies to enhance their international competitiveness or increase their bottom line.”

That is not true.

53 posted on 01/14/2014 10:28:07 PM PST by Kennard
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