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Highway 99 tunnel team “going hyperbaric” to inspect Bertha
The Seattle Times ^ | january 14, 2014 | Mike Lindblom

Posted on 01/14/2014 8:20:28 PM PST by steve86

After drilling four deep shafts and sending a man down to look last week, Seattle Tunnel Partners and the state Department of Transportation don’t fully know yet what’s blocking tunnel machine Bertha, some 60 feet deep next to Pioneer Square.

So the DOT announced Tuesday it is “going hyperbaric,” by sending workers to the pressurized cutting face. Teams of five or six workers would take turns inspecting the huge area.

Bertha is equipped with two hatches for men and one for equipment, to reach a five-foot wide chamber where excavated muck enters the conveyor system, right behind the 57-foot rotary cutter face. However, DOT says the workers won’t need to wear scuba gear, but will simply need time for their bodies to adapt to pressure changes.

(Excerpt) Read more at blogs.seattletimes.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: bertha; seattle; washington

1 posted on 01/14/2014 8:20:28 PM PST by steve86
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To: steve86

I thought they figured out that it was a well casing that was blocking it.


2 posted on 01/14/2014 8:23:21 PM PST by Lurkina.n.Learnin (This is not just stupid, we're talking Democrat stupid here.)
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To: steve86

im a betting crashed ufo artifacts


3 posted on 01/14/2014 8:23:45 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: steve86

I’m betting they found the Horta...


4 posted on 01/14/2014 8:28:46 PM PST by neodad (USS Vincennes (CG-49) Freedom's Fortress)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin

The story changes every day.


5 posted on 01/14/2014 8:30:19 PM PST by steve86 (Some things aren't really true but you wouldn't be half surprised if they were.)
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To: steve86

Balrog


6 posted on 01/14/2014 8:31:10 PM PST by ClearCase_guy (Anti-Complacency League! Baby!)
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To: steve86

Boston’s “Big Dig” made them the laughing stock for years. Wouldn’t you know it the Seattlunatics would outdo them?


7 posted on 01/14/2014 8:31:16 PM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: steve86

I bet they found out these workers voted for Romney


8 posted on 01/14/2014 8:37:39 PM PST by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin; steve86
I thought they figured out that it was a well casing that was blocking it

Yup, thought that was a done deal a week or so ago.
Now they say they still don't know WTH.
Sounds like a government/union/clown operation to me.

9 posted on 01/14/2014 8:39:10 PM PST by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin, Ted Cruz, Mike Lee, Louie Gohmert......Nuff said.)
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To: dennisw

10 posted on 01/14/2014 8:43:58 PM PST by Bobalu (The true secret to genius is in creativity, not in technical mechanics - Richard Feynman)
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To: neodad

Well I hope it’s not injured because Bones is dead Jim, he’s dead!


11 posted on 01/14/2014 8:46:50 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: steve86
 


Maybe it's because Benny is driving! Should never have trusted that mutant!

 

12 posted on 01/14/2014 8:48:59 PM PST by Incorrigible (If I lead, follow me; If I pause, push me; If I retreat, kill me.)
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To: steve86

Giant psychic grasshoppers


13 posted on 01/14/2014 8:58:29 PM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: steve86

My guess is that it is like that small bit of something that causes the garbage disposal to jam it is something similarly small. When you finally get it out of the garbage disposal you can’t believe such a small bit of something could stop it.

Look for an announcement that a very small rock got in just the wrong place and brought Bertha to a stop.


14 posted on 01/14/2014 9:00:00 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: steve86
The story changes every day.

Some editor keeps telling the report to go get a story about it and everyday the engineer tells the reporter they don't know yet.

15 posted on 01/14/2014 9:01:18 PM PST by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience. It is a guide to your actions.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

Right, probably a spoon.


16 posted on 01/14/2014 9:09:15 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: neodad
I’m betting they found the Horta...

If the Horta were there, the tunnel(s) would already be, um, dug...

But if Bertha injured one they're in trouble, and Spock isn't there to talk it into helping out either...


17 posted on 01/14/2014 9:35:07 PM PST by NoCmpromiz (John 14:6 is a non-pluralistic comment.)
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To: steve86

Big Bertha ran into a gigantic diamond that wore down all the teeth on the cutter.


18 posted on 01/14/2014 9:39:19 PM PST by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: steve86

Anything is possible in that liberal sewer/cesspool known as Seattle. Maybe somebody moved that huge commie statue of Lenin from the Fremont District to out in front of Bertha.......


19 posted on 01/14/2014 9:43:46 PM PST by bobby.223 (Retired up in the snowy mountains of the American Redoubt and it's a GREAT life!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Balrog

Yep

20 posted on 01/14/2014 9:44:51 PM PST by thecodont
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To: bobby.223

Speaking as the person who built the channel tunnel TBs as well as many others. There is something fundementaly wrong with that machine, and its operators. Not sure what kind of cutters they are using. Disc cutters should have been able to handle expected pipe & concrete.


21 posted on 01/14/2014 10:04:46 PM PST by stubernx98 (cranky, but reasonable)
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To: steve86

Illustration makes no sense.


22 posted on 01/14/2014 10:17:09 PM PST by Fungi
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To: Lurkina.n.Learnin
I thought they figured out that it was a well casing that was blocking it.

Same here. The last article I saw, said they'd discovered a pipe of some kind that wasn't showing on their documentation of the area.

Oh well, I guess it's back to the buried ancient UFO theory...

23 posted on 01/14/2014 10:18:43 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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24 posted on 01/14/2014 10:30:24 PM PST by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day.)
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To: steve86

Just hire 100 illegal Mexicans. They have lot of experience digging tunnels.


25 posted on 01/14/2014 11:09:39 PM PST by entropy12 (Great republics wither when more people figure out they can get free stuff by electing socialists.)
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To: dennisw

Collapsium gull plating does tend to have that effect.


26 posted on 01/14/2014 11:25:09 PM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Born to Conserve

I was thinking of that same Brit flick but dang if I can remember the name of it.


27 posted on 01/14/2014 11:30:57 PM PST by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit.)
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To: gunsequalfreedom

do not agree because a garbage disposal aka insinkerator has a few blades while this tunneling machine has hundreds so much more difficult to jam on a small object

I stress test my garbage disposal all the time for fun


28 posted on 01/14/2014 11:35:21 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: steve86

It’s Jimmy Hoffa’s body. . .


29 posted on 01/15/2014 12:45:01 AM PST by Swordmaker (This tag line is a Microsoft insult free zone... but if the insults to Mac users continue...)
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To: steve86

They’ve hit the cryocrystaline-multititanium-monolith planted by aliens a million years ago. No man-made tools will even scratch it. Its existence was known by a select group of people who finally located its position with the aid of aerospace scientists and engineers.

This is not a highway tunnel project but is actually a mission to raise the monolith to the surface. The cover story will soon be abandoned and Bill Gates will be sent down to decipher the symbols displayed on its surface. He will not succeed and will turn the job over to the obamacare programmers. They will finally break the mystery and reveal the message: “If you like your health care, you can keep it!”


30 posted on 01/15/2014 2:54:32 AM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: steve86

They designed Bertha as a means to quickly dig a tunnel. At this rate, it would have been faster to dig it using pick and shovel.


31 posted on 01/15/2014 3:51:13 AM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: NoCmpromiz

32 posted on 01/15/2014 3:53:23 AM PST by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Pontiac

33 posted on 01/15/2014 5:18:54 AM PST by ZOOKER (Until further notice the /s is implied...)
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To: steve86

The abandoned well casing story never made sense to me.


34 posted on 01/15/2014 5:34:44 AM PST by Erik Latranyi (When religions have to beg the gov't for a waiver, we are already under socialism.)
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To: rockrr

How so? Do you have ANY clue the technical challenges they faced?


35 posted on 01/15/2014 5:48:51 AM PST by Travis T. OJustice (I miss you, dad. :()
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To: Travis T. OJustice

Actually, now that you mention it, yes I do. Since I’m not only politically involved in my community but I’m directly affected by this fiasco I’ve tried to keep abreast of develops on the project.

Please understand that this folly is years in the making. The left has dominated the government in this area for years and years to the point where they have managed to replace planners, engineers, and administrators with politically partisan planners, engineers, and administrators. As a result practical engineering and growth management has been supplanted by political correctness.

The Viaduct is an aging limited access highway (predates freeway) that runs along the Seattle waterfront north <> south. It is absolutely critical to the movement of traffic in the downtown area. It is old and in need of replacement. It also happens to cross a subduction faultline. In our last quake the Viaduct suffered some slight damage but came through in pretty good shape overall. None of that matters to our illustrious leftists whose primary objective was to recapture the waterfront.

In the wake of the earthquake, the left seized in the moment (and the ill-ease of the citizenry) to insist that now was the time to replace it. Study and debate ensued and in the end The People determined that they wanted it replaced with like~for~like. So naturally the leftists in charge decided to hell with The People - we want what we want - and told us that they were going to replace the Viaduct with a tunnel.

There were battles both in the press, at the ballot box, and in the courts. The left lost at every turn but held to their insistence. It was all horribly expensive - but not to the left who was using public money for their fight.

In the end they prevailed, despite the will of The People, and all of the seismic evidence introduced to show why a tunnel is a terrible idea.

The fact is, they haven’t even encountered the real problems yet. Everything so far has been self-inflicted. It’s costing us somewhere north of 10 times what replacing the Viaduct would have cost, and for that we get 33% less capacity and a goddamned tunnel that promises to be an albatross for the next 50 years.


36 posted on 01/15/2014 6:54:29 AM PST by rockrr (Everything is different now...)
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To: Pontiac

“Five Million Years to Earth/Quatermass and the Pit”


37 posted on 01/15/2014 8:37:32 AM PST by Born to Conserve
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To: Born to Conserve

Great Movie!

Considering the location, I am thinking the final foundations of the Barad-Dur.


38 posted on 01/15/2014 8:50:39 AM PST by Conan the Librarian (The Best in Life is to crush my enemies, see them driven before me, and the Dewey Decimal System)
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To: rockrr

Outstanding post, and right on target.

The Alaskan Way Viaduct could have been replaced at MUCH less cost and with much greater engineering justification than this “tunnel” idiocy. This sucker will be BELOW sea level for its entire length. Seattle sits on what’s called “glacial till”. It ain’t bedrock.

Oh well, you said eveything important.


39 posted on 01/15/2014 11:14:18 AM PST by jimt (Fear is the darkroom where negatives are developed.)
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