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'Duck Dynasty's' black supporters
CNN ^ | 1/15/14 | Yolanda Young

Posted on 01/15/2014 3:47:52 AM PST by SoFloFreeper

ditor's note: Yolanda Young is the author of the memoir, "On Our Way To Beautiful", and the publisher and C.E.O. of Lawyers Of Color. Follow her on twitter @yolandayoungesq

(CNN) -- As "Duck Dynasty" star Phil Robertson returns from his brief "hiatus," he'll do so to the cheers of some surprising supporters — southern blacks. Robertson was suspended from the A&E hit show for calling homosexuality a sin and equating it to bestiality in a GQ profile. Receiving less attention were his comments that black people were happier before the civil rights movement.

Media have focused on two camps in the controversy. On one side are Robertson's predictable supporters, who include white evangelicals, southern Republican politicians and Fox News. On the opposing team are LBGT activists and progressives

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Louisiana
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Refreshing to see the truth for once on CNN....not all blacks drink the racist Kool-Aid.
1 posted on 01/15/2014 3:47:53 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Note: Yolanda Young DOES NOT like Duck Dynasty. She is lamenting that not ALL blacks think like her.


2 posted on 01/15/2014 3:52:30 AM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper
Refreshing to see the truth for once on CNN...

Well, except for this part:

Robertson was suspended from the A&E hit show for calling homosexuality a sin and equating it to bestiality in a GQ profile. Receiving less attention were his comments that black people were happier before the civil rights movement.

3 posted on 01/15/2014 3:54:06 AM PST by BlessedBeGod (Democrats are Cruz'n for a Bruisin' in 2016. / Obama=Unspeakable Audacity)
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To: BlessedBeGod
Robertson was suspended from the A&E hit show for calling homosexuality a sin and equating it to bestiality in a GQ profile

Actually he did not equate homosexuality with bestiality. He was asked to identify what sin was. Both qualify.

4 posted on 01/15/2014 4:10:01 AM PST by mware
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To: SoFloFreeper

One thing these morons don’t understand is that under segregation, blacks didn’t spend twenty-four hours a day lamenting the fact that they were second-class citizens. They got on with their lives, and if they didn’t have all the privileges of the white classes who oppressed them, they at least had jobs, and families, and communities and faith and moral standards and all of the good feelings that those things provided them; things which, incidentally, are in very short supply amongst them in these enlightened days.


5 posted on 01/15/2014 4:11:34 AM PST by Mr Ramsbotham (If you liked the website, you'll LOVE the healthcare!)
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To: mware

“Actually he did not equate homosexuality with bestiality. He was asked to identify what sin was. Both qualify.”

That’s actually what equate means.


6 posted on 01/15/2014 4:27:32 AM PST by Fuzz
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To: Fuzz

No, that is not what equate means.

Securities fraud is a crime.
Murder is a crime.

I didn’t not just equate securities fraud and murder. However they are both clearly crimes.


7 posted on 01/15/2014 4:31:18 AM PST by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

She’s drank the leftist Kool-Aid and is a racist, just like her Massahs at CNN.


8 posted on 01/15/2014 4:36:22 AM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: drbuzzard

Depends on what the definition of “is” “is”... (sarc)


9 posted on 01/15/2014 4:36:46 AM PST by maddog55
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To: drbuzzard

“Securities fraud is a crime.
Murder is a crime.

I didn’t not just equate securities fraud and murder. However they are both clearly crimes.”

Yes you did as you have compared them and classified them both under crimes. Should you choose ‘violent crimes’ as the descriptor, then it would not have been a statement equating the two.


10 posted on 01/15/2014 4:38:24 AM PST by Fuzz
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To: SoFloFreeper

Poor thing is so desperate to hang on to victim status that she completely ignored what he said and went on to be offended anyway. Phil didn’t say their lives were all peachy keen, remember he was out there picking right along side of them. What he said was before the “civil rights” movement the black family was STRONG, with high morals, and they were able to face hardship because of love. Civil rights ear brought welfare that destroyed the black family (you could only get welfare if there was no man in your house so men left). It’s the destruction that he’s talking about, but most people are too young to remember. Strong fathers, uncles, grandfathers were role models for kids. I guess it depend on what you think happy means. To me, loving family means happy, happy, happy;.


11 posted on 01/15/2014 4:44:11 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: Fuzz
“Actually he did not equate homosexuality with bestiality. He was asked to identify what sin was. Both qualify.”

That’s actually what equate means.

Nope, both are sins, but one is not the same as the other. Murder is a sin, but murder and fudge packing are not the same.

Pedophilia is a sin but using it in the same sentence as homosexuality does not equate the two equally ugly acts.

12 posted on 01/15/2014 4:46:57 AM PST by USS Alaska (If I could...I would.)
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To: drbuzzard

Nice rebuttal and rationale Dr


13 posted on 01/15/2014 4:48:14 AM PST by jimmyo57
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To: McGavin999
What he said was before the “civil rights” movement the black family was STRONG, with high morals, and they were able to face hardship because of love. Civil rights ear brought welfare that destroyed the black family (you could only get welfare if there was no man in your house so men left).

In other words, it wasn't the civil rights movement. It was the welfare movement that destroyed black families.

14 posted on 01/15/2014 4:48:58 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Fuzz
"Yes you did as you have compared them and classified them both under crimes. Should you choose ‘violent crimes’ as the descriptor, then it would not have been a statement equating the two."

No he didn't. To equate is to reqard two or more things as equivilent. Merely pointing out that each of two things may share a single characteristic is not to assert they are equivilent. If I point out that my shoe is white and that a star is white I am not saying that shoe is equivilent that star.

15 posted on 01/15/2014 4:49:08 AM PST by circlecity
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To: SoFloFreeper

Rednecks come in black too.


16 posted on 01/15/2014 4:51:53 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Fuzz

No, he didn’t. A person is a mammal, a hamster is a mammal. That does not make them equal. It makes them both examples of what is a mammal. Robertson gave examples of what he considers a sin.


17 posted on 01/15/2014 4:53:02 AM PST by FR_addict
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To: FR_addict

Fuzz seems like a weird lurker to me.


18 posted on 01/15/2014 4:53:32 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar again if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: circlecity; Fuzz

I play basketball
Michael Jordan (of the Chicago Bulls) plays basketball

Am I “equal” to Michael Jordan? I think not. (for one thing I’m better looking. lol )


19 posted on 01/15/2014 4:55:10 AM PST by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: Fuzz
He did not equate the two things, he classified them.

To equate two things means to declare them as equal. They are the same in *all* senses.

But just putting two things into the same class does not equate them. It just says they are the same in *one* sense.

So for instance the statement:

"Sarah Palin and Obama are both politicians."

does not mean that Sarah Palin and Obama are physically equal, morally equal - or in fact equal in any way except that they are indeed both politicians.

You must learn to distinguish between "two things being equal in all ways" and "two things being equal in one way".

Until you do so you will struggle to follow even the simplest political or historical discussions.

20 posted on 01/15/2014 4:57:26 AM PST by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: USS Alaska

“Nope, both are sins, but one is not the same as the other. Murder is a sin, but murder and fudge packing are not the same.”

You are saying both are sins, then saying they are not the same, but you’ve established the criteria by which we are making the comparison as ‘sin’, not that the acts are identical in every other way.

When someone say Bill and Jim are both construction workers, it would not be logical to assume they are clones.

“Pedophilia is a sin but using it in the same sentence as homosexuality does not equate the two equally ugly acts.”

Under the banner of ‘sin’ or now possibly ‘ugly acts’, they are.


21 posted on 01/15/2014 4:57:34 AM PST by Fuzz
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To: SoFloFreeper
"Receiving less attention were his comments that black people were happier before the civil rights movement."

of course Robertson never said this either.

22 posted on 01/15/2014 4:59:38 AM PST by circlecity
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To: FR_addict

“A person is a mammal, a hamster is a mammal. That does not make them equal. It makes them both examples of what is a mammal.”

They are being equated as ‘mammals’ though, not conscious beings or a who would be better at helping you move. In that sense they are being equated.


23 posted on 01/15/2014 4:59:54 AM PST by Fuzz
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To: drbuzzard

When it comes to sin, the punishment for both is equal—therefore, the two crimes are equal.


24 posted on 01/15/2014 5:00:30 AM PST by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
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To: agere_contra

“To equate two things means to declare them as equal. They are the same in *all* senses.”

Simply not true.


25 posted on 01/15/2014 5:03:11 AM PST by Fuzz
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To: SoFloFreeper
....his comments that black people were happier before the civil rights movement.

He did not say that at all. He said that the ones he worked with were Godly.

26 posted on 01/15/2014 5:03:51 AM PST by sport
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To: SoFloFreeper

She doesn’t mention that Willie Robinson adopted a Black kid, wonder why? Oh yeah, doesn’t fit the bias of them being racist.

Pray America is Waking


27 posted on 01/15/2014 5:19:20 AM PST by bray ("The Republic of Texas 2022" is coming in Feb)
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To: Fuzz
It is true.

Declaring or affirming two things as equal is what the act of equation means.

Well; at least we've drilled down to the cause of the problem. You just didn't know what 'to equate' meant.

Back to work for me. Later guys.

28 posted on 01/15/2014 5:21:04 AM PST by agere_contra (I once saw a movie where only the police and military had guns. It was called 'Schindler's List'.)
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To: PapaBear3625
Yes, but they unfortunately came at the same time, pushed by evil people who knew what they were doing. Civil rights was good and proper so many people helped out with that. What we didn't know was tagged onto it was the destruction of the very people we wanted to help.

All blacks wanted was equality, and that was right and good. They didn't get it. What they got was permanent dependence which is pretty close to slavery. Not all, not by any means, but enough. Phil's mistake was not clearly identifying the welfare state, but he would have been attacked either way. You can't speak the truth anymore.

29 posted on 01/15/2014 5:24:37 AM PST by McGavin999
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To: circlecity

The funniest thing about this to me is...I can just imagine stupid liberals watching DD to listen to what Phil says to try to incriminate him in some kind of “crime”. He “kidnapped” Bradshaw (and others), he sexually harasses Miss Kay, “murders” ducks and other critters, “child abuse” for dressing a duck at the high school. It really is a parody of all that is stupidity knowing that the libs assume a man like Phil is stupid just because he is not like them.


30 posted on 01/15/2014 5:25:48 AM PST by gr8eman (How ya doin Bob?...Bitchen!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

But, 9 times out of 10 those black southerners will still vote Democrat. So what good are they?


31 posted on 01/15/2014 5:39:11 AM PST by BlueStateRightist (Government is best which governs least.)
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To: bray

Willie Robertson not only adopted a Black Baby, but he even gave him his name; they call him ‘Little Will’. Oh by the way, he did this LONG before anyone ever thought of “Duck Dynasty”.


32 posted on 01/15/2014 5:41:17 AM PST by snowtigger
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To: Fuzz
That’s actually what equate means.

Wrong.

If I said that hot and cold are both weather conditions, I am not equating the two, I am classifying them.

To say that homosexuality and bestiality are both sins does not "equate" them any more than saying shoplifting and murder are both crimes would equate them.

Homosexuality and beastiality and adultery are all sins involving sexual "orientaion". That does not equate them, but they are all classified under the general heading of Sin and the subheading of Sexual.

Pride is also a sin. And being Proud of your sin is much worse than simply being a slave to it. We are all slaves to sin in one way or another but few of us are Proud of our sins. The natural reaction is to be ashamed and sorry.

When you publicly identify yourself by your sin you are in a much worse spiritual condition than if you are in the closet about it. In that sense Gay Pride is a worse sin than Bestiality.

When they goat buggers start having parades, then we can officially declare our Society as spiritually dead.

33 posted on 01/15/2014 5:49:51 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: agere_contra

“Declaring or affirming two things as equal is what the act of equation means.”

In mathematics, yes. In linguistics, not as precise as that. Equating one thing to another in the way we communicate is used more broadly to categorize, analogize or classify things or ideas through comparison. Equating lower taxes with higher revenue or equating higher spending with better results, for example.


34 posted on 01/15/2014 5:52:59 AM PST by Fuzz
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To: Fuzz

Let’s try a definition since simple logic hasn’t gotten any traction:

equate verb
: to say or think that (two things) are equal or the same
equat·edequat·ing

Full Definition of EQUATE

transitive verb
1
a : to make equal : equalize
b : to make such an allowance or correction in as will reduce to a common standard or obtain a correct result
2
: to treat, represent, or regard as equal, equivalent, or comparable

Now only someone with a complete inability to understand the term ‘equal’ would say I equated the two because they are both crimes. There is a wide span of crimes in terms of severity and harm caused. Jaywalking is a crime also, but to think that anyone would equate it with murder by calling it a crime is utterly daft.

A stubbed toe in an injury. So is a sucking chest wound from a .44 magnum. Nonetheless I have not equated them.

Go back up and read that definition a few times. Equate does not mean compare or classify in a like way. To equate the two items must be equal. (funny how that root word gets involved and all)


35 posted on 01/15/2014 6:14:52 AM PST by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: Fuzz

You must speak a very strange dialect of English. For most of us who speak the language, “to equate” is much stronger than to classify in a common category.

Consider the following dialogue:

A: Name some car brands.

B: Subaru, Mazarati,...

A: How can you equate a Subaru and a Mazarati?

Plainly A is a lunatic, has some bizarre agenda, or doesn’t know what the word “equate” means.


36 posted on 01/15/2014 6:17:47 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Blacks back the duck. Good video

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nugHbFdX6q0


37 posted on 01/15/2014 6:19:42 AM PST by txgirl4Bush (Impeach obama)
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To: drbuzzard

“b: to make such an allowance or correction in as will reduce to a common standard or obtain a correct result”

It’s right there in the definition you provided.

From my previous post:

In mathematics, yes. In linguistics, not as precise as that. Equating one thing to another in the way we communicate is used more broadly to categorize, analogize or classify things or ideas through comparison. Equating lower taxes with higher revenue or equating higher spending with better results, for example.

I realize it’s kind of a trivial thing to argue over, but I tend to equate arguing over technicalities with amusement.


38 posted on 01/15/2014 6:23:11 AM PST by Fuzz
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To: SoFloFreeper

Yolanda, Grammar 101 and editors are our friends.

The headline and the article don’t match. I was shocked the headline came from CNN but the back slap article is full on CNN left hating meme.


39 posted on 01/15/2014 6:24:38 AM PST by bgill
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To: sport

He didn’t say a lot of what is being reported he said. It’s obvious she did not listen to the interview or read a transcript. She did nothing but regurgitate the lies and spinning others have put out there which puts a huge question on her accuracy in reporting on her “family”, imo.


40 posted on 01/15/2014 6:31:49 AM PST by bgill
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To: Fuzz

Only someone with no sense of proportion, severity, or scale would see those things as comparable.


41 posted on 01/15/2014 6:32:44 AM PST by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: drbuzzard

Your signature line is amusing in light of the topic being discussed.

“(All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)”


42 posted on 01/15/2014 6:36:22 AM PST by Fuzz
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To: Fuzz
You are saying both are sins, then saying they are not the same, but you’ve established the criteria by which we are making the comparison as ‘sin’, not that the acts are identical in every other way.

this sentence is the reason I usually avoid discussions that touch on Faith.

Since the concept of sin is rooted in ones Faith, it makes it difficult, if not impossible to use logic and reason in the discussion.

I'll just pass, since we are not able to even agree on sin.

43 posted on 01/15/2014 6:37:38 AM PST by USS Alaska (If I could...I would.)
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To: USS Alaska

Yeah, if I say that I used to feed the pigs and sing hymns on Sunday some people will say I am equating the two. Actually I am just mentioning two things I may have done on the same day when I was a teenager.


44 posted on 01/15/2014 6:42:47 AM PST by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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To: Fuzz
“Actually he did not equate homosexuality with bestiality. He was asked to identify what sin was. Both qualify.” That’s actually what equate means.

No it doesn't. Equates means equal to. 3 and 7 are both prime numbers, but 3 does not equal 7.

45 posted on 01/15/2014 6:54:41 AM PST by CMAC51
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To: Fuzz
“Securities fraud is a crime. Murder is a crime. I didn’t not just equate securities fraud and murder. However they are both clearly crimes.” Yes you did as you have compared them and classified them both under crimes. Should you choose ‘violent crimes’ as the descriptor, then it would not have been a statement equating the two.

Again you are wrong. Saying they are both crimes states the relationship between them, not any form of equality. Red and blue are both colors. Red does not equal blue.

46 posted on 01/15/2014 6:57:24 AM PST by CMAC51
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To: RipSawyer

“Yeah, if I say that I used to feed the pigs and sing hymns on Sunday some people will say I am equating the two. Actually I am just mentioning two things I may have done on the same day when I was a teenager.”

If the question was ‘what are things you used do on Sunday?’, then there is a construct on which you can say they are being equated, but that would be stretching the meaning and usage of the word to render it almost meaningless.


47 posted on 01/15/2014 7:02:25 AM PST by Fuzz
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To: ShadowAce
When it comes to sin, the punishment for both is equal—therefore, the two crimes are equal.

Actually if you start with the original Christian religion, Catholicism, not all sins are equal. There are mortal sins and venial sins. Mortal sins result in eternal damnation while venial sins are absolved by a period of suffering prior to entering into heaven.

I am making no attempt to classify the nature of these sins only pointing out that your blanket statement that the punishment for all sins is equal may not necessarily be true.

48 posted on 01/15/2014 7:02:50 AM PST by CMAC51
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To: SoFloFreeper

How can any one say Phil was on “hiatus,”, when the entire season was already filmed and in the can? Next season I hope they take their #1 show and sponsors to RFDTV, Christian friendly, family friendly. We tape it, as we chose not to watch that channel other wise, and fast forward through the commercials too.


49 posted on 01/15/2014 7:05:00 AM PST by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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To: CMAC51

“No it doesn’t. Equates means equal to. 3 and 7 are both prime numbers, but 3 does not equal 7.”

Previously posted:

In mathematics, yes. In linguistics, not as precise as that. Equating one thing to another in the way we communicate is used more broadly to categorize, analogize or classify things or ideas through comparison. Equating lower taxes with higher revenue or equating higher spending with better results, for example.

“All men are created equal” does not mean we are equal in every way one can imagine.


50 posted on 01/15/2014 7:06:24 AM PST by Fuzz
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