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Vigilantes reject disarming in Mexico standoff
AP ^ | January 14, 2014 | MARK STEVENSON

Posted on 01/15/2014 6:50:45 AM PST by Blackyce

Associated PressJanuary 14, 2014 Updated 9 hours ago APATZINGAN, Mexico — Federal forces and heavily armed vigilantes are warily watching each other in a violence-wracked farming area of western Mexico after one deadly clash and a failure by leaders from both sides to work out a deal on disarming.

(Excerpt) Read more at adn.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Foreign Affairs; Mexico
KEYWORDS: drugcartels; guns; mexico; militiagroups; policestate; vigilantes
"The Rev. Gregorio Lopez, a parish priest in Apatzingan's Roman Catholic diocese, watched the display of force, but brushed it off as "just a show."

"Police sent in from outside don't know where the criminals are," Lopez said. "We know of 10 warehouses where they are hiding armed men; they (federal police) aren't going to find them.""

Wow. Even the priests are with the vigilantes.

1 posted on 01/15/2014 6:50:45 AM PST by Blackyce
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To: Blackyce

Good on ‘em!


2 posted on 01/15/2014 6:55:00 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Irenic

The corrupt government wants to disarm the vigilantes so that they will be at the mercy of the drug lords who are buying off the government. Is Mexico run by the Democratic Party?


3 posted on 01/15/2014 6:57:30 AM PST by littleharbour ("All men having power ought to be distrusted to a certain degree. ~ James Madison)
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To: Irenic

Maybe they would sell us a few of their leaders.....


4 posted on 01/15/2014 7:04:01 AM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Blackyce

I believe it was an annonymous vigilante force which brought down the Pablo Escobar criminal army in Columbia.


5 posted on 01/15/2014 7:09:09 AM PST by circlecity
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To: Blackyce
"Wow. Even the priests are with the vigilantes."

Welcome to Mexico. Does the name "Hidalgo" mean anything to you?
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6 posted on 01/15/2014 7:10:15 AM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Blackyce
vigilante

I prefer "citizens with the God-given right to defend themselves and their families", but I guess that's too much for a newspaper to use instead of the word "vigilante".

7 posted on 01/15/2014 7:14:48 AM PST by moovova
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To: moovova

The term vigilante did not start out as a pejorative. It derives from the vigilance committees in California (I believe SF) who formed when the government could not or would not act against criminals. They were initially seen as a good thing but IIRC developed a bad name when leaders of the committees started carrying out personal vendettas. While I agree that your description is accurate I also think the term vigilante is appropriate. Perhaps these good folks in Mexico can restore some honor to the word and tradition.


8 posted on 01/15/2014 7:48:46 AM PST by RightOnTheBorder
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To: Blackyce

Reminds me of a scene in VIVA ZAPATA in which the peasants have won the war, the politicians have taken over, and are being disarmed. Then the Army attacks them.


9 posted on 01/15/2014 7:50:34 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Blackyce

The police have been bought off by the cartels, and everyone knows it.


10 posted on 01/15/2014 7:51:34 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Let me rephrase this. In VIVA ZAPATA, The Peasants have won the war and are being disarmed, they are then attacked by the army as the politicians have taken over.


11 posted on 01/15/2014 7:53:32 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: RightOnTheBorder
The term vigilante did not start out as a pejorative. It derives from the vigilance committees in California

umm, actually goes back to Roman times. Google vigiles

12 posted on 01/15/2014 8:00:11 AM PST by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: Blackyce

For the past several YEARS, the Mexican gov has done nothing to help these villagers against the drug gangs. Now that the villagers have armed up and defended themselves against the cartels, the gov shows up and tries to disarm the villagers? And anybody can’t guess who’s side the government is on?


13 posted on 01/15/2014 8:10:56 AM PST by PilotDave (No, really, you just can't make this stuff up!!!)
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To: Blackyce
U.S. Government Helped Rise of Mexican Drug Cartel: Report

DEA, Sinaloa Cartel in Secret Cooperation for Years

Uncle Scam runs the big drug cartels in Mexico just like it runs Al Qaeda in Syria.

The Mexican federalis are disarming the locals at the behest of the big drug cartels and Uncle Scam. Uncle Scam does the same thing in this country. It protects the criminal class and tries to disarm the decent citizenry.

If Uncle Scam and the Mexican Federalis weren't partners with the big drug cartels they could take them out in a week. All they have to do is use the NSA to find out who the cartel guys are and kill them.

14 posted on 01/15/2014 8:25:27 AM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: RightOnTheBorder

Thank you for the clarification.

I hope the folks are successful in protecting their kith & kin.


15 posted on 01/15/2014 8:32:48 AM PST by moovova
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To: Blackyce

Very interesting that the Mexican government is more interested in disarming the people rather than disarming the cartels sucking the lifeblood out of the people.


16 posted on 01/15/2014 9:38:30 AM PST by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: moovova

How about “Regulators”. That’s what they called the armed citizen groups in the Carolinas that stood up to colonial government corruption prior to the Revolutionary War.


17 posted on 01/15/2014 1:58:03 PM PST by Blackyce (French President Jacques Chirac: "As far as I'm concerned, war alwaysmeans failure.")
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To: Blackyce

i personally like the term, “militia”.


18 posted on 01/15/2014 2:01:31 PM PST by SeaHawkFan
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To: Blackyce

“Regulators”

That’s a good one...I like it.


19 posted on 01/15/2014 2:03:54 PM PST by moovova
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