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The Truth About Sandy Hook: Connecticut report dismisses most of the gun control narrative
Pajamas Media ^ | 01/15/2014 | Mike McDaniel

Posted on 01/15/2014 7:55:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind

Posted By Mike McDaniel On January 15, 2014 @ 12:00 am In Crime,Education,US News | 5 Comments

After Newtown, President Obama and gun control advocates were shocked to discover — yet again — that sweeping anti-gun legislation would fail miserably. The nation rejected their pointing to guns as the explanation for the massacre. Obama has since been reduced to speechifying and exploiting the parents of Sandy Hook victims; his political arm — Organizing for Action — has barely made a ripple in the political pond.

The people of Newtown have asked the rest of the world to be kind, and to leave them alone [1].

The Danbury Judicial District state’s attorney, Stephen J. Sedensky III, issued his report on the shooting on November 25, 2013 [2]. As one might expect, the facts as revealed in his report bear little resemblance to the media and Obama’s narrative regarding the massacre.

(Media/Obama talking points in bold.)

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Adam Lanza and his mother had strong ties to Sandy Hook Elementary School that caused him to attack there. While Lanza attended the school — he happened to live in the neighborhood — nearly a decade earlier, he had no discernible ties to the school thereafter. It’s possible his mother did a little volunteering at the school when Lanza attended, but she was never employed there. The most likely possibility is Lanza chose Sandy Hook merely because he was familiar with it and it was close to his home.

Lanza used multiple weapons, including an AR-15 and a shotgun, in his attack. He used a high-powered “assault weapon” and “high-capacity magazines.” The only weapon Lanza used to kill and injure all of the victims was a Bushmaster AR-15 pattern carbine. The AR-15 is the most common and popular sporting rifle in America. Its cartridge is, in terms of rifle ammunition, of low to intermediate power, and its 30-round magazines have been standard since the Vietnam era. Lanza’s rifle belonged to his mother and was semi-automatic, an action type more than a century old.

A shotgun was found in Lanza’s car, but it was not used in the attack. Lanza also carried a Sig-Sauer P226 9mm handgun, but did not fire it. Lanza killed himself with a shot to the head from a 10mm Glock 20 handgun, and before attacking the school killed his mother with a Savage .22LR bolt-action rifle he left on the floor of her bedroom.

The police response was very rapid; Lanza had five minutes to kill before shooting himself. The first 911 call to the Newtown police occurred at 9:35:39. The first officer arrived at 9:39, but no officers entered the building until 9:44:47, nine minutes and eight seconds after the 911 call. Lanza began his attack at 9:30 and shot himself at 9:40:03, four minutes and 44 seconds before the first officer entered the building. He had more than ten uninterrupted minutes before he shot himself. If he wished, he could have had at least five minutes more.

While the police response was relatively rapid, as in virtually every school shooting in American history, the police had no active role in saving lives or stopping the shooter.

The high-capacity magazines Lanza used contributed to the death toll. Magazine capacity limits would have saved lives. Lanza had multiple magazines and hundreds of rounds of ammunition. Magazine changes take only a few seconds; experts can do one in a second. Lanza fired more than 137 rounds, requiring at least four magazine changes. Fifteen round magazines would have required nine magazine changes and an extra 36 seconds. This would have made no difference in the death toll at Newtown and elsewhere. Even if Lanza were limited to ten round magazines, there would have been no difference.

The principal heroically attacked Lanza, saving lives. Unfortunately, there was no video recording system in the school. When Lanza shot his way through a window near the locked main doors to enter the school, Principal Dawn Hochsprung and school psychologist Mary Sherlach were in a meeting in a nearby conference room. Hearing the gunfire, they stepped into the hallway and were immediately shot and killed. Two other staff members that stepped into the hallway were shot and wounded, but retreated back into their rooms and survived. Caught in a narrow hallway with no concealment, cover, or means of fighting back, Hochsprung and Sherlach didn’t have a chance. No one abandoned their students and there is evidence the four additional teachers killed tried to shield their students. There is heroism in their devotion, but no evidence any of them had the opportunity to fight back.

The remotely locked doors and video system in the school allowed school staff to promptly call the police and saved lives. The school had video only on the remotely locked front doors, video with no recording ability. The video was displayed on three monitors on the desks of secretaries in the main office near the front door. The doors were entirely glass, and a large glass panel adjoined them. It was this panel Lanza shot out with eight rounds to enter the building, taking only a few seconds.

Lanza could have easily shot out the doors, or used a crowbar to pry them open, again taking only seconds. This is true of the doors of virtually any school. Schools are always vulnerable. For obvious safety reasons they can’t be fortified like prisons.

The office staff had no time to call the police and were forced to hide as best they could. After shooting Hochsprung and Sherlach, Lanza actually entered the office and briefly looked around, but chose not to search more carefully and soon left to enter two classrooms where he killed the children; no one in the office was hurt. It was five minutes and 39 seconds into the attack before the office staff was able to make a 911 call. By then, Hochsprung, Sherlach, and many children were dead or dying.

There were warning signs of Lanza’s intentions. Unfortunately, as is the case with virtually all school attacks, there were no red flags. Lanza was interested in firearms and mass shootings, and was known to be a strange young man with obvious social deficits and obsessive behaviors, but no one — including multiple psychologists over many years — detected the slightest propensity toward violence or intention to attack a school. There was no lack of opportunity for professionals and laypeople to see warning signs, but there simply were none.

From the report:

“It is important to note that it is unknown, what contribution, if any, the shooter’s mental health issues made to his attack on SHES. Those mental health professionals who saw him did not see anything that would have predicted his future behavior.”

Lanza liked violent video games, which contributed to the attack. Lanza did play a variety of video games, some of which were popular war and shooter games, but one he particularly favored — frequently playing a commercial version — was a dance game. Lanza also had images of Lego creations and hamsters. There is no evidence these things, and many more, in any way contributed to the attack.

Lanza was bullied. Extensive interviews of friends, acquaintances, family, school personnel, and mental health professionals are contradictory. Some thought he may have been bullied, but more believed otherwise. While some thought him withdrawn and remote, others found him able to interact appropriately with his peers. A friend of Lanza’s from 2011-2012 said Lanza never spoke of being bullied and said and did nothing that might have indicated his intentions.

More mental health laws and more mental health spending could have made a difference and will make a difference in the future. Obama is now spending [3] significant federal money on mental health services, but there is no evidence any of it would have made a difference, then or now. As I noted in 2011 [4], the political left is largely responsible for the state of the U.S. mental health system since the 1960s, and it remains primarily a creature of the left today.

Involuntary commitment laws are always a matter of balancing individual liberty with public safety. The kinds of changes some on the left have suggested would amount to allowing arrest and indefinite incarceration for thought crime, which is not a power any rational man wants the Obama administration to have. To be sure, some states can use more effective — and constitutional — involuntary commitment laws, but one cannot imprison and “treat” the odd, the unusual, or those who pose no real threat to themselves or others.

Adam Lanza had the full benefit of the mental health system. He was, at various points in his life, prescribed medication. He refused to take it. He was prescribed behavior therapies. He refused to participate. Through all those therapists and all those years, not one considered him a danger to himself or others. Not one saw any sign of what he would eventually do. Not one could present evidence that would have prevented him from owning firearms. He knew right from wrong and functioned in society; he was just odd.

Perhaps the most horrifying realization is that there may be no way to detect and to stop school shooters like Lanza.

What the media has not reported and will never report are the facts about what will work to deter and to stop school attacks: doing away with “gun free” school zones and allowing willing school staff to carry concealed handguns.

Lanza, from the beginning to his suicide, was vulnerable to return fire. In fact, at many points, armed school staff would have had significant advantages in cover, concealment, and superior knowledge of the facility.

If Newtown’s school district publicized that its employees were allowed to carry concealed weapons and that many were — while keeping their names, numbers, and locations secret — it is likely Adam Lanza would never have attacked that school district.

If engaged at or near the point of entry, Lanza would almost certainly have been unable to harm a single child. But because the staff were unarmed, because their only options were trying to run or hide, and because politicians and administrators believed in the magical value of “gun free” school zone signs rather than the unalienable right to self-defense, 26 students and teachers died.

That is the lesson, and tragedy, of Newtown.


Article printed from PJ Media: http://pjmedia.com

URL to article: http://pjmedia.com/blog/the-truth-about-sandy-hook/

URLs in this post:

[1] asked the rest of the world to be kind, and to leave them alone: http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2013/1209/Newtown-asks-for-privacy-and-kindness-as-Sandy-Hook-anniversary-approaches

[2] issued his report on the shooting on November 25, 2013: http://www.ct.gov/csao/lib/csao/Sandy_Hook_Final_Report.pdf

[3] Obama is now spending: http://seattletimes.com/html/politics/2022433314_apxbidenmentalhealth.htm

[4] noted in 2011: http://pjmedia.com/blog/after-tucson-getting-involuntary-commitment-right/


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; US: Connecticut
KEYWORDS: banglist; guncontrol; sandyhook

1 posted on 01/15/2014 7:55:16 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

WHAT! More gun laws and keeping firearms out of the hands of law abiding citizens isn’t the answer???????


2 posted on 01/15/2014 7:59:47 AM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: SeekAndFind

I listen to Bill Bennett’s ‘Morning in America’ show - he has some really terrific interviews. This morning he was talking to Congressman Tim Murphy, a practicing psychologist for 3 decades. Murphy said what we all know .... it’s a mental health issue, not gun control. It’s a public health issue - when he looked into the various massacres and what the situation is with mental health, he discovered that the Feds actually HINDER proper care. There are also advocacy groups who go against doctor/family wishes and do things like getting the mentally ill released to wander the streets. Anyway, he has a bill that will change some things so folks with severe problems will get more of the help they need .... and parents in particular, won’t be shut out if their kid is 18 or over (in PA, I think he said it’s 14!). What he said sounded very reasonable to me. Link: http://murphy.house.gov/helpingfamiliesinmentalhealthcrisisact


3 posted on 01/15/2014 8:03:47 AM PST by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: SeekAndFind

Wait, a government official in a Dem state told the truth? Will something bad happen to him now?


4 posted on 01/15/2014 8:11:58 AM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: SeekAndFind

It sounds like none of the troubling questions about Sandy Hook have been answered. No word on the lack of EMS response or proceedures to try to save injured children. No word of the news reports beginning at 8:00 am when the shooting didn’t take place until after 9:30 am. No word on how Lanza killed so many people in 5 minutes and and how Lanza at 120 pounds Lanza carried full body armor, guns and many clips. No word about why Adam Lanza had no SS# and why nobody knows his whereabouts for a year prior to the event. No photos of the crime scene. The was no crime scene clean up of blood etc which is required by law. There are many other questions that have not been answered.


5 posted on 01/15/2014 8:12:58 AM PST by detective
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To: SeekAndFind
I was reading a couple conspiracy-theory threads yesterday and Sandy Hook came up; there were a few interesting anomalies in it; apparently:
  1. Drill protocols were followed; not emergency protocols. (In specific, color-coded tarps used by emergency-response were missing.)
  2. The legally required paperwork for hazmat cleanup (blood) was unavailable.
  3. Irregularities of the radio-networks involved.
  4. Irregularities in the weapons used/recovered/found.
Really quite strange, it does remind me of the push for more gun-control that happened immediately-after.
6 posted on 01/15/2014 8:17:06 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: SeekAndFind
This thread has just added to the FreeRepublic "bang list" (firearms interest list) by adding the keyword "banglist".

Any time a firearms-related thread is created on FreeRepublic, please be sure to add the "banglist" keyword to it so that interested FReepers don't miss it. Just a suggestion.

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7 posted on 01/15/2014 8:18:42 AM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The police response was very rapid; Lanza had five minutes to kill

Newtown is 59 sq mi or 7.68 mi on a side if it were a perfect square.

Five minutes' response time is NOT 'very rapid.' In fact, it's not rapid at all in such a small municipality with normally quiet streets.

According to Google Earth it is a mere 1.6 miles from Newtown Police HQ to the school. 8,448 feet.

That also assumes the police were at the station - odds are at least one car was already on patrol.

As the article states, this 'rapid' response was anything but and the police were ineffective as usual.

I can understand statists frustrated with individual sovereignty pushing gun control but I can't fathom cowards who endorse the 'guns for police only' canard.

8 posted on 01/15/2014 8:20:44 AM PST by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The End)
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To: detective
Good questions; though the weight one is less an issue than you might think:
When I was deployed to Iraq I weighed no more than 135, starting train-up right prior I was 128; I'm not a large guy, but I wouldn't say that I had a lot of trouble with my gear — that includes the body-armor.
9 posted on 01/15/2014 8:21:55 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: OneWingedShark
You were in excellent condition and had gone through rigorous training. There is no evidence Lanza had any training or physical conditioning. If you look at his picture he weighed 120 at most probably less and looked was not in any kind of good physical shape.
10 posted on 01/15/2014 8:26:13 AM PST by detective
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To: Joe Brower

When liberal narratives collide with truth it is truth that must yield!


11 posted on 01/15/2014 8:29:24 AM PST by FiddlePig
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To: detective
You were in excellent condition and had gone through rigorous training. There is no evidence Lanza had any training or physical conditioning. If you look at his picture he weighed 120 at most probably less and looked was not in any kind of good physical shape.

I'll grant the physical condition, though I'd never qualify myself as athletic.
But I don't think the photos are a good indicator — remember the photos of Trayvon Martin? — That's why I have to say 120 pounds and body-armor aren't mutually exclusive; and why I consider it to be the least convincing indicator of "weirdness" in the story.

The lack of legally required documentation of the clean-up, the destruction/reconstruction of the building (apparently requiring the construction workers to sign a non-disclosure agreement), the time anomalies in the story (story possibly breaking before the incident), and so forth are much more compelling.

12 posted on 01/15/2014 8:44:46 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: FiddlePig
When liberal narratives collide with truth it is truth that must yield!

I think that's the biggest lesson from Sandy Hook.

13 posted on 01/15/2014 8:45:48 AM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Adam Lanza had the full benefit of the mental health system. He was, at various points in his life, prescribed medication. He refused to take it. He was prescribed behavior therapies. He refused to participate. Through all those therapists and all those years, not one considered him a danger to himself or others. Not one saw any sign of what he would eventually do. Not one could present evidence that would have prevented him from owning firearms. He knew right from wrong and functioned in society; he was just odd. Perhaps the most horrifying realization is that there may be no way to detect and to stop school shooters like Lanza.
I call bulls**t! THAT is the problem right there. The current thinking among psychiarists is that NOTHING is abnormal. These are the same people who now consider pedophilia acceptable. He was crazy enough to need chemicals to alter his behavior, but sane enough to trust to take the medication and go to therapy? Lanza was bats**t nuts, his doctors knew it, his family knew it, his mother knew it. They all protected him and played the 'pretend' game. Treat him normal and he will BE normal. We have to get past that magical thinking re. schizophrenics and the seriously mentally ill. THAT is why those children and teachers are dead. The only good thing is that the mother who protected this lunatic was his first victim. She had no more right to inflict her insane son on society than dogfighters do to loose packs of vicious pit bulls in a neighborhood. I don't care how that sounds either. I'm damned tired of hearing of the innocent victims of the mentally ill,like Lanza, who are protected by family, law and the medical profession.
14 posted on 01/15/2014 8:56:07 AM PST by ClearBlueSky (When anyone says its not about Islam...it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What the media has not reported and will never report are the facts about what will work to deter and to stop school attacks: doing away with “gun free” school zones and allowing willing school staff to carry concealed handguns.

Lanza, from the beginning to his suicide, was vulnerable to return fire. In fact, at many points, armed school staff would have had significant advantages in cover, concealment, and superior knowledge of the facility.

If Newtown’s school district publicized that its employees were allowed to carry concealed weapons and that many were — while keeping their names, numbers, and locations secret — it is likely Adam Lanza would never have attacked that school district.

If engaged at or near the point of entry, Lanza would almost certainly have been unable to harm a single child. But because the staff were unarmed, because their only options were trying to run or hide, and because politicians and administrators believed in the magical value of “gun free” school zone signs rather than the unalienable right to self-defense, 26 students and teachers died.


15 posted on 01/15/2014 8:57:48 AM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: ZULU
it is likely Adam Lanza would never have attacked that school district.

If he did.

16 posted on 01/15/2014 9:12:10 AM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it." - George Orwell)
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To: detective

Could you provide a link to the 8am news reports on the shooting when it did not start until after 9. I thought I’d followed this pretty closely and I’ve not heard that one - to my recollection.


17 posted on 01/15/2014 9:37:49 AM PST by dmz
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

If he did.

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Oh boy. Here we go.

I have one simple question for all the hoaxers: Where are the 20 kids? Where are the 6 adults?


18 posted on 01/15/2014 9:40:20 AM PST by dmz
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To: SeekAndFind
The first officer arrived at 9:39, but no officers entered the building until 9:44:47...[Lanza] shot himself at 9:40:03

So a police officer was AT the building and did nothing but listen to gunfire inside the school for an entire minute???

How many kids died during that minute?

19 posted on 01/15/2014 9:42:25 AM PST by kidd
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To: MissMagnolia; Conservaliberty
I didn't read it closely, but I noticed one glaring omission: firearms ownership. As long as those who seek or receive mental health treatment are treated as though they would commit mass murder at the slightest provocation if they had access to a firearm, those who value their Second Amendment rights will be less inclined to seek treatment and more likely to hide any signs that they need treatment from those who would be in a position to help. If I were to suggest an addition to address that, I would completely remove admission to a mental health facility (whether voluntary or involuntary) as a barrier to firearms ownership. If the person has been released, then evidently the facility believes the person to no longer be a danger to self and/or others. Hence they should be allowed to purchase firearms, and have any firearms confiscated from them due to their mental health issue returned. They could even make it a 5-year limit, as I've seen in some other places on the background check form. But until they do something to address this issue, the solution will still be incomplete.
20 posted on 01/15/2014 9:48:14 AM PST by lcms rev
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To: SeekAndFind
... It was five minutes and 39 seconds into the attack before the office staff was able to make a 911 call.

An intruder shoots out the front door of the school and no one in the front office hearing the shots had the presence to immediately call 911, especially when the secretary could see what was happening on the video monitor? Knowing the mindless bureaucracy that infects the US education system, it would not surprise me that some policy allowed only the principle to make 911 calls.

21 posted on 01/15/2014 10:01:30 AM PST by The Great RJ
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To: dmz

Witness Protection.


22 posted on 01/15/2014 10:18:17 AM PST by MinstrelBoy (If you're a conservative today, you're a hero.)
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To: OneWingedShark
Drill protocols were followed; not emergency protocols.

That's exactly the impression I got watching the first responders on that news film footage. People were acting like they were in a staging area for a cherry blossom parade instead of "shots fired" with 28 dead inside. No grief shown by anyone, no ambulance doors open, SWAT teams in dress uniforms without gear.

23 posted on 01/15/2014 10:19:43 AM PST by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: SeekAndFind
The people of Newtown have asked the rest of the world to be kind, and to leave them alone

But please keep sending $$$$. As of July 12th, United Way and Newtown-Sandy Hook Community Foundation, Inc. raised $11 million with $7.7 million divided between the families of victims and non-victim families. hussein (aka taxpayers) sent $2.5 million to "reimburse" CT officers (as if they were doing something not described in the job duties). That's not counting the families' personal FB donation requests or other outside donations.

24 posted on 01/15/2014 10:38:25 AM PST by bgill
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To: MinstrelBoy

Witness Protection.

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Hilarious.

The hoaxers require evidence of everything and the lack of satisfactory (to them, the hoaxers) is evidence that the official story is a lie. You know the old saw ‘lack of evidence is evidence of a lack’.

Why do the hoaxers not have the same standards for their own opinions?


25 posted on 01/15/2014 10:47:38 AM PST by dmz
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To: ZULU

IIRC some months after the shooting, the Newton school board or citizens had the opportunity to approve arming security guards in their schools. They rejected arming school security guards.

That’s when I though “screw ‘em, it’s all an act”. They can moan and wail all they want - they aren’t even sorta interested in protecting their children unless it means disarming the rest of us to do so.


26 posted on 01/15/2014 10:48:04 AM PST by Let's Roll (Save the world's best healthcare - REPEAL, DEFUND Obamacare!)
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To: relictele
it is a mere 1.6 miles from Newtown Police HQ to the school.

The first 911 call from the school was the EMS/Fire Chief's ex-wife, the school secretary. Their son, William Halstead, Jr., is a FEMA Emergency Management Analyst who conducts training/drills. She and school nurse, Sally Cox, "hid" in the office closet for over four hours before they were "rescued". That's 4+ hours after the cops announced the school had been cleared. That's 4+ hours in the same office where the cops were headquarted. That's 4+ hours after the last live person left the building. That's 4+ hours of the Chief Halstead not seem concerned that the last live person had left the school building but the mother of his FEMA Emergency Management son had not walked down the hill to his office with the big flashing "Check In Here" sign.

27 posted on 01/15/2014 11:01:05 AM PST by bgill
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To: lcms rev

It’s a fine line to walk, not to take someone’s rights (firearms or otherwise) away from them. At least this doctor was approaching it from a mental health standpoint, rather than it’s a ‘gun control’ (so let’s take them away from everybody) problem. How they resolve the issues you brought up (and I think they affect vets more than any other segment of society), I don’t have the answer.

Might be worth a listen to Murphy’s comments on Bennett’s show archives to understand what he’s so concerned about (and rightfully so, IMO) .... http://www.billbennett.com/show-archive/


28 posted on 01/15/2014 11:04:35 AM PST by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: The Great RJ
An intruder shoots out the front door of the school and no one in the front office hearing the shots had the presence to immediately call 911, especially when the secretary could see what was happening on the video monitor?

See my #27.

29 posted on 01/15/2014 11:07:52 AM PST by bgill
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To: dmz

“Why do the hoaxers not have the same standards for their own opinions?”

Because then they couldn’t have fun wildly speculating with no burden of proof.


30 posted on 01/15/2014 11:42:11 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: bgill

“That’s 4+ hours of the Chief Halstead not seem concerned that the last live person had left the school building but the mother of his FEMA Emergency Management son had not walked down the hill to his office with the big flashing “Check In Here” sign.”

You think it’s unusual that a man was not especially concerned about the welfare of his ex-wife?


31 posted on 01/15/2014 11:44:12 AM PST by Boogieman
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To: dmz

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32 posted on 01/15/2014 11:50:06 AM PST by detective
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To: dmz
Where are the 20 kids? Where are the 6 adults?

Maybe they never existed, there's also some stories about 'victims' appearing in public after their deaths at the superbowl.

Moreover, regardless of whether or not there were deaths, [even the possibility of] a false-flag style operation is a serious breach of trust… a trust that is rapidly being eroded by a government that spies on its own people [NSA], pushes for political punishments [IRS], disregards law and supports terrorism [Fast & Furious, possibly Benghazi], and is apparently beholden to no-one.

33 posted on 01/15/2014 12:54:49 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: ClearBlueSky
ClearBlueSky said: "He was crazy enough to need chemicals to alter his behavior, ..."

Some drugs warn the patient to tell their doctor if they have suicidal or homicidal thoughts. If such drugs didn't exist, anti-gunners would invent them.

34 posted on 01/15/2014 1:49:54 PM PST by William Tell
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To: SeekAndFind
The police response was very rapid

Yes it was -- the call went out at ~9:36 and first officers arrived in the parking lot at ~9:38but then failed to enter the building where they heard as many as 10 shots.

Lanza had five minutes to kill before shooting himself.

That's not true and Mike should know it because the police dispatch indicates shots being fired as late as ~9:46 and only Lanza was firing that morning.

The first officer arrived at 9:39

Not true -- at ~9:38 they parked their cars way down in the parking lot and made their way along the tree line up to the school and then ~9:39 5 Newtown officers were chasing a parent into the woods all the while 10 shots were heard by them from within the school. And then when they did enter the building they did so 6 minutes later from the back of the building as far from the shooting as possible at ~9:45.

Lanza began his attack at 9:30

You just said 9:35 -- which is it???

and shot himself at 9:40:03

If that's the case then who was firing at 9:46 per the 911 tapes and police dispatch???

He had more than ten uninterrupted minutes before he shot himself.

You just said 5 minutes. Who proofreads your stuff????

If he wished, he could have had at least five minutes more.

Uhhhh he did per the police dispatch.

While the police response was relatively rapid, as in virtually every school shooting in American history, the police had no active role in saving lives or stopping the shooter.

So then the plan is to wait outside until the shooter kills himself.

For your information, Mike, the final shot was fired at 9:51 as a few courageous officers were closing in on him.

That's 16 minutes of uninterrupted killing and yet the police were there in 3 minutes.

Who proofreads your stuff???

35 posted on 01/16/2014 3:07:21 PM PST by Uncle Chip
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