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9/11 mastermind says Koran 'forbids' violence to spread Islam
Yahoo News ^ | 1/14/2014

Posted on 01/16/2014 3:05:10 AM PST by South40

Washington (AFP) - The self-proclaimed mastermind of the September 11 attacks, Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, has released a manifesto claiming that the Koran forbids the use of violence to spread Islam.

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In a major departure from his previous position, Mohammed said that "the Holy Koran forbids us to use force as a means of converting!"

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1 posted on 01/16/2014 3:05:10 AM PST by South40
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To: South40

Yeah, sure. That’s how Islam was spread in the first place.


2 posted on 01/16/2014 3:08:45 AM PST by Chainmail (A simple rule of life: if you can be blamed, you're responsible.)
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To: Chainmail

When has Islam ever been spread without violence or the threat of violence?

When will I ever learn anything at all about Islam that isn’t isn’t completely disgusting?


3 posted on 01/16/2014 3:11:33 AM PST by Maceman (Just say "NO" to tyranny.)
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To: South40

But there’s nothing in it to prevent you from killing non-Muslims?


4 posted on 01/16/2014 3:11:52 AM PST by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar)
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To: South40

Taqiyya.

‘nuff said.


5 posted on 01/16/2014 3:12:32 AM PST by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: South40

Then how do you explain flying planes into skyscrapers?

Taqiyya.


6 posted on 01/16/2014 3:18:59 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: South40

From merriam-webster.com...

Jihad:
A war fought by Muslims to defend or spread their beliefs

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/jihad


7 posted on 01/16/2014 3:22:31 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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“Each of the 164 Jihad verses in this list was selected based on how clearly and directly it spoke about Jihad, at least when considered in its immediate context. Most of the listed passages mention a military expedition, fighting, or distributing war spoils. Verses NOT generally listed are those that speak about aspects of Jihad other than the raiding, fighting and looting”

http://www.answering-islam.org/Quran/Themes/jihad_passages.html


8 posted on 01/16/2014 3:27:11 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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Sorry, the title of the last piece was “164 Jihad Verses in the Koran”


9 posted on 01/16/2014 3:28:23 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: South40

There ya go, he is merely pimping for the Obama Get Out of Jail Card.


10 posted on 01/16/2014 3:33:39 AM PST by mazda77
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To: Maceman

Islam is not a religion. It is an ideology, an evil one at that, and the Koran is on the same level of “religion” as the tomes “Das Kapital” or “Mein Kampf”.

There are, of course, those who have built a religion out of each of these sources. All three of these writings have demanded, as the means to spread their message to the unconverted, that the True Believers proceed to kill off all the resistance, without remorse or pity, should they not first accept the obvious superior order that is about to be imposed upon them.

The difference between the Judeo-Christian ethos and these perversions of faith is that if the individual who is confronted with this set of beliefs does not convert, for whatever reason, there is no dictum that the only alternatives are slavery or death.


11 posted on 01/16/2014 3:34:24 AM PST by alloysteel (Those who deny natural climate change are forever doomed to stupidity. AGW is a LIE.)
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To: South40

Politically, it makes sense to say that kind of thing now.

Now the US has, in place, a system to spread islam without violence. Through societal pressure, the courts, and even the President.

A new edit will come forth once enough assimilation has occurred.


12 posted on 01/16/2014 3:42:30 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (Over production, one of the top 5 worries for the American Farmer every year.)
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To: South40

“the Holy Koran forbids us to use force as a means of converting!”

I think I read somewhere that it is OK for a Muslim to lie to advance the spread of Islam. Which by the way is what Obama does every day.


13 posted on 01/16/2014 3:48:17 AM PST by ImNotLying (The Right To Bear Arms: Making good people helpless won't make bad people harmless!)
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To: Balding_Eagle
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14 posted on 01/16/2014 3:56:54 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Maceman

It’s an odd point in world history. Around 610AD...the most tolerant city in the world...was Mecca. It was a general rule that if you resided in the city-state there....you had to accept various religions...from sacred cows to Christianity, period. You can’t find any other city with this type of arrangement around this time period.

So this one minister showed up and started his own group. Over the next decade...his self-start religion became a problem with the tolerant people and authorities of this Saudi Arabian town. Everything there was based on trade, commerce, and tolerance. Eventually, they said enough, and told him and his group to hit the road. The nearest town around to accept him? Medina. You can figure it’s a eight-day walk to get over there, and every step of the way...this self-start prophet of sorts was grumbling and angry. He’d been kicked out and it just wasn’t right.

It took around six years...but he came back eventually. He and his group started up a robbery scheme on anyone traveling to Mecca. The city authorities eventually decided that a treaty of sorts had to be done....to end this tirade and hit on their commerce trade. So he got invited in and a treaty was signed. The treaty and its positive effect lasted roughly two years....then he came with enough followers and troops to take over Mecca. He killed everyone off of some hit list that he made up.

From that day on....week by week....his thugs moved out and took over other Saudi towns, and moved onto Jordan, Egypt and the entire Middle East. The thugs would eventually be the reason for the Crusades to start, and be the downfall of various ‘safe’ empires in the region.

You can guess the guy’s name.

There’s another piece of this story which isn’t told much.

If you have heard of the black rock in Mecca....it existed prior to Muhammad and Islam. That’s the odd piece of this story.

The Mecca folks dug up this black rock, and made it into a religious pilgrimage prior to 610AD...for 350-odd religions. You could worship just about anything...and come to Mecca’s black rock for a religious experience once a year. Call it a tolerance fest or whatever, but the town made vast amounts of money off this pilgrimage business.

Oddly enough...after all the other religious groups in Mecca were chased out...the black rock status stayed around, and Muhammad made it into a Islam-only status. The town still made money, but strictly off Islamic players. So the most sacred thing in Islamic culture....was a multi-cultural religious rock for 350-odd religions...even sacred cow folks and angry volcano folks. This is the odd part of history that never gets told much. You have to wonder why.


15 posted on 01/16/2014 3:58:38 AM PST by pepsionice
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To: Balding_Eagle
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16 posted on 01/16/2014 3:58:57 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: South40

And the Koran allows goat fornicators to lie to advance the cause.


17 posted on 01/16/2014 4:13:05 AM PST by Old Yeller
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To: South40

The Koran also enjoins the faithful to make appropriate use of Taquiya.


18 posted on 01/16/2014 4:29:39 AM PST by arthurus (Read Hazlitt's Economics In One Lesson ONLINEhttp://steshaw.org/economics-in-one-lesson/)
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To: South40

TAQIYYA!


19 posted on 01/16/2014 4:30:03 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: South40

Liar, liar,dish towel on fire.


20 posted on 01/16/2014 4:35:25 AM PST by Lion Den Dan
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To: South40

You lie.


21 posted on 01/16/2014 4:36:54 AM PST by bmwcyle (People who do not study history are destine to believe really ignorant statements.)
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To: South40

Wonder what Koran this lying jerk is reading.

Guess he figured that if Americans were stupid enough to elect the Criminal in Chief twice, we would believe anything.


22 posted on 01/16/2014 4:47:19 AM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: South40
Yeah, but as I understand it the Koran is real big on "if you're attacked, fight back." Which hey, I'm a big believer in myself.

However, many violent and power-hungry Imams espouse the notion that if you're not already following the Koran, you are against it and hurting true believers by setting a bad example. Hence, they feel (and preach) that Muslims are justified in attacking/fighting any non-Muslim. Just another round 'about version of "You're either with us or against us."

23 posted on 01/16/2014 4:57:35 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: South40
Yea and the Koran also says to lie to spread islam!

Due here by the year 2020 - ARE YOU READY?

1400 years – 250 MILLION innocents murdered by “the prophet" followers!!!

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24 posted on 01/16/2014 5:10:14 AM PST by high info voter
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To: South40

This is likely an artifact of trying to translate Arabic to English.
In Islam is forbidden to coerce conversions to Islam - giving the victim a choice between death and conversion is not coercion because they have a choice. In Islam, peace doesn’t mean an absence of violence, it means “submission to Allah.”
This is probably something similar; that or “taqiyya.”


25 posted on 01/16/2014 5:38:41 AM PST by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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To: South40

Not telling the truth.


26 posted on 01/16/2014 8:25:00 AM PST by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: pepsionice

Very interesting. Thank you.


27 posted on 01/16/2014 1:12:34 PM PST by Maceman
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