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MSNBC Host Says Job Creation is an “Ineffective Anti-Poverty Program”
Townhall.com ^ | January 16, 2013 | Michael Schaus

Posted on 01/16/2014 5:50:42 AM PST by Kaslin

A firm grasp of the obvious is clearly not a prerequisite for obtaining employment with MSNBC as a host or commentator. In fact, it seems that the possession of a certain creative ignorance – not generally found among individuals with shreds of common sense – is highly praised at the left wing “news” network. MSNBC talking head, Touré Neblett, claimed via twitter that job creation is an ineffective way of fighting poverty.

Via Touré’s twitter account (hat tip to Twitchy.com):

Aside from the grotesque void of factual accuracy in Touré’s comments, the unmitigated lunacy of his assertion illustrates the degree to which our culture has become intellectually bankrupt. Common sense would generally dictate that such an assertion be greeted with a palm to the face, a rolling of the eyes, or an incredulous chuckle, and nothing more. But, for sake of practice, let’s tackle the nonsensical claim anyway:

To begin with, the comments tweeted by Touré are, not surprisingly, based on his class-warrior perspective of capitalism, and not fact. According to a 2013 study by the Bureau of Labor Statistics, only 4.2 percent of full time workers classify as being impoverished. Of part time workers, only 14.4 percent are federally defined as the working poor. With 95.8 percent of full time workers above the federal poverty line, it would be difficult to see full time work as anything other than an opportunity to avoid the bread lines.

Oh… And thanks to Obamacare, more workers are now seeing their hours cut to part-time status, which means a larger number of Americans are likely to find themselves below the poverty line. In the left’s altruistic effort to help the impoverished, they have actually expanded poverty. Maybe they just wanted help more people?

Once upon a time, according to not only common sense but actual economists, it was simply taken as fact that earning money tends to make one less poor. In fact, this basic principle of earning money, is what the vast majority of tax-paying Americans spend a large portion of their day doing in an effort to avoid the crippling effects of poverty.

Of course working two part time jobs (thanks again Obamacare) might not be enough to lift a working family from poverty. But embarking on a career, utilizing a job for supplemental income (click here to to learn the often overlooked difference between a job and career), and generally working toward higher paying employment has proven itself as a sure fire way to – well, make more money. And given that poverty is defined as having less money, it would seem that earning more money (by obtaining gainful employment) would be fairly effective.

Aside from the obvious correlation between work and socioeconomic mobility, job creation also tends to have a wealth-creating effect on a macro scale. Contrary to the assertion made by the intellectually deficient MSNBC host, job creation even helps the unemployed. As jobs are created, the tax base broadens and wealth compounds. As wealth, jobs, and tax receipts increase, revenues to the federal treasury (which are overwhelmingly allocated toward entitlement programs) increase as well. Commerce also increases, leading to higher corporate profits, more job creation, and (as a consequence) increased charitable contributions. So help a poor person: Earn more money.

It should also be pointed out that the working poor in America, with or without the benevolent (if misdirected) help of federal benefits, tend to be far better off than the poor in other corners of the world. Heck, a “working poor” person in America would be considered a man of wealth and culture in Mogadishu. The increased standard of living in the United States is brought to you by your local workforce. Workers are the ones who pay taxes, consume goods, accumulate wealth, donate to charitable causes, and ultimately employ other workers.

While no-one will ever get rich flipping burgers at McDonalds, the climb from poverty becomes a whole lot more probable for a worker with drive and opportunity to engage in earning money. Touré, however, seems to believe that employment (the process of exchanging labor and skills for market based monetary compensation) is “ineffective” at combating poverty… Because, ya know, no-one gets wealthy by earning money.

I wonder if anyone has asked Touré how he combats falling into poverty in his own life. After all, he seems to be employed. (Although… I’m still not quite sure how, or why…)


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1 posted on 01/16/2014 5:50:42 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Another 9th grade economics drop out.


2 posted on 01/16/2014 5:52:49 AM PST by albie (ve`)
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To: Kaslin

“Jobs” is the only effective anti-poverty program.

Bring back jobs to America.


3 posted on 01/16/2014 5:53:13 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Kaslin

Must be why all their proposed policies kill jobs.


4 posted on 01/16/2014 6:02:00 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Kaslin

Perhaps the reason 2 jobs arent paying the bills is b/c theyre the low wage/skill type. Even tho we (the taxpayers) provide schooling thru 12th grade its clear the recipients arent taking advantage of it. Additionally, the ‘poor’ can learn a trade also funded by the taxpayers. So, it seems to me that the problem is a motivational one than anything else. We knew that tho..


5 posted on 01/16/2014 6:03:41 AM PST by 556x45
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To: Kaslin

The stupid is strong at MSNBC


6 posted on 01/16/2014 6:08:02 AM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: albie
Another 9th grade economics drop out.

so when does Obama appoint her to the Fed?


7 posted on 01/16/2014 6:08:25 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: Kaslin

Here’s an “anti-poverty” program -

marriage. To one person. Of the opposite sex. For life.

What we have now is Generation “B”(astard).


8 posted on 01/16/2014 6:10:18 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Kaslin

If a couple each work 40 hours a week (even at minimum wage) they would be above the poverty line even if they had 3 kids.


9 posted on 01/16/2014 6:15:37 AM PST by Straight Vermonter (Posting from deep behind the Maple Curtain)
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To: Kaslin

10 posted on 01/16/2014 6:17:09 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Kaslin

There is a grain of truth, here.

To explain, one of the original *reasonable* arguments in favor of Social Security at its inception (ignoring what it was really intended to be, a nationalized retirement system run by the government for all), was that people in low wage jobs could not possibly live and save enough for a retirement at any age.

This was true, but was not just based in national, but also state and local “price economics”. For example, say in one place (not back then, of course), the hourly wage is $10/hr; but in another place, the wage is $20/hr. It can almost be guaranteed that home and apartment rental at the second place will be twice as much as in the first place, as well as all other prices.

So the *net* of workers in either place will be subsistence, and not a penny more. Very little savings, and nothing for retirement.

Even today, millions of people are living “a month behind”, paying for rent, transportation, food, health, and everything else on credit. And as soon as they are paid, their entire paycheck, less taxes, goes to pay off their credit. This means they have no “fat”, and if they lose their job, they are instantly homeless, unless their landlord gives them a second month of credit.

And, either in the Great Depression, or the Obama Depression, these people realize how close to the bone they have to live, and how precarious their livelihood truly is.

They are just as stuck in poverty as are those on welfare, and they have zero upward mobility. So “just jobs” offer them nothing.

But how to get out of the morass?

Every scheme that has been tried, including education, seems to have been corrupted to make things worse for them, to in effect “keep them down”, and prevent them from rising from poverty into the middle class.

And to make things much worse, the same “helpful” individuals whose help instead “keeps them down”, are doing their level best to drive the middle class into poverty as well. This is why we see such great “egalitarians” as Obama causing the rich to get richer, the middle class to get poorer, and the poor to get forced onto the charity rolls.

What is truly needed is to shake up the system so that the middle class and poor can accumulate wealth without it being parasitized by either the government or the marketplace, leaving them impoverished.


11 posted on 01/16/2014 6:18:17 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (There Is Still A Very Hot War On Terror, Just Not On The MSM. Rantburg.com)
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To: albie
its the MARIJUANA.....

it shrunk his brain before he could get to the ninth grade!


12 posted on 01/16/2014 6:32:16 AM PST by MeshugeMikey (This Message NOT Approved By The N.S.A.)
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To: Kaslin
Think deeper. Not funny not even close. Let's look. Target info lost and no uproar from bho. nsa and all spy secrets including nuclear are now basically available on wiki. bho-care allows access to your bank accounts. Congress does not exist. Goldman Sachs speaks of income redistribution. Toure ≈ bho in thought and deed. More military leaders let go yesterday...are any left other than commie lapdogs? Start small perhaps with a sliding scale and take say $5000 from you and I and give to whom bho chooses? Who doubts he wouldn't call this tithing and say it is based on biblical principles? Remember his church is humanist/commie/fascist and he hates us. Don't doubt me on this.
13 posted on 01/16/2014 6:33:23 AM PST by CincyRichieRich (Pajama-boy-in-chief's beatings continue until morale improves.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Is that Jimi Hendrix?...............


14 posted on 01/16/2014 7:16:35 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: Red Badger

Yes Jini Hendrix was on the shirt as worn in the photo.

I added the CHE image. for additional flavor...

and that photo is that old...

Imagine this guy in any government ...including STUDENT Government, Elementary School Gubment Included?


15 posted on 01/16/2014 7:44:10 AM PST by MeshugeMikey (This Message NOT Approved By The N.S.A.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Jimi Hendrix was in the US Army, 101st Airborne Division in his younger days, though he did get an honorable discharge for incompatibility soon after he got his patch. When Hendrix was 19 years old, law enforcement authorities had twice caught him riding in stolen cars. The reason he joined the Army was a choice between that or jail, which was common in those days for young offenders.


16 posted on 01/16/2014 7:58:29 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: Red Badger

Im guessing this portion of his history is not that widely known! particularly by doofis wearing his image on a swetshirt


17 posted on 01/16/2014 8:05:52 AM PST by MeshugeMikey (This Message NOT Approved By The N.S.A.)
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To: Kaslin

So who watches television news any more?

Who cares what these people say?


18 posted on 01/16/2014 8:08:32 AM PST by warchild9
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To: MeshugeMikey

http://www.newsweek.com/day-they-stopped-and-frisked-jimi-hendrix-225858


19 posted on 01/16/2014 8:22:28 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: Red Badger

I just read it from the thread you posted.

odd that a guy who could write lyrics like “is this love...or is it confusion”...was so confused about any number of matters....


20 posted on 01/16/2014 8:33:33 AM PST by MeshugeMikey (This Message NOT Approved By The N.S.A.)
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To: MeshugeMikey

Read about his early childhood:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jimi_hendrix


21 posted on 01/16/2014 8:42:54 AM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: Red Badger

“After returning from service, Al reunited with Lucille, but his inability to find steady work left the family impoverished. They both struggled with alcohol abuse, and often fought when intoxicated. The violence sometimes drove Hendrix to withdraw and hide in a closet in their home.[17]”

I got the sense that he grew up strange.


22 posted on 01/16/2014 8:52:55 AM PST by MeshugeMikey (This Message NOT Approved By The N.S.A.)
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To: Kaslin

When I was 18, I worked three Jobs and took a few College Courses at night. I worked at least six days a week.

It’s a living hell being a greedy Capitalist, but someone has to do it.


23 posted on 01/16/2014 8:57:03 AM PST by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
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To: 556x45

“Schooling” may be provided through the twelfth grade but it amounts to far less in reality than an old time eighth grade education. Those who are receiving bachelor degrees now have far less of an education than their great grandparents had after finishing high school. There are some exceptions of course but the general rule holds, a college degree is worth far less in today’s job market than a public high school diploma was worth in the job market forty five years ago.

Today’s university graduates are, in all too many cases, lucky if they can find a job of the sort that would have been taken by a high school dropout in the sixties. Yes, I know that the dropout of those days did not know anything about computers but most could make change without one.

The truth is that it was common fifty years ago for a young man to finish high school, go to work immediately and become a homeowner with a wife and children by his early twenties, actually that was considered “normal” in my area and no, that was not because labor unions created abnormally high wages for the working class, there was very little labor union activity in South Carolina, negligible in fact. Contrast that with what goes on today.

As far as the lack of motivation, I agree with you totally. When I turned 18 I wanted so badly to see what else the world offered that I went straight into the Navy. Now I see thirty five year olds who don’t seem to care what happens as long as they can send text messages or post on Facebook and Twitter. Of course I don’t advise the young to follow my path, I wouldn’t recommend the military to anyone now.


24 posted on 01/17/2014 6:33:30 AM PST by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rx9—zQDfog


25 posted on 01/17/2014 6:43:20 AM PST by RipSawyer (The TREE currently falling on you actually IS worse than a Bush.)
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