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Yes, the CIA Flew U-2 Spy Planes From Aircraft Carriers
Medium.com via Real Clear Histroy ^ | January 13, 2014 | By Steve Weintz

Posted on 01/16/2014 8:21:12 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee

On May 1, 1960, the Soviet Union shot down a CIA U-2 spy plane and captured its pilot, Francis Gary Powers. It was an international crisis for America’s intelligence agencies.

A planned summit between Pres. Dwight Eisenhower and Premier Nikita Khrushchev was scuttled, much to Eisenhower’s embarrassment and to the fury of the Pakistanis, from whose territory the flight had been launched.

First flown in 1957, the 63-foot-long, jet-powered U-2—capable of flying as high as 70,000 feet—is still used by the U.S. Air Force. But after the Powers incident, basing the plane in foreign countries became problematic. Their mere presence caused heartburn in diplomatic circles. Time-sensitive targets could be lost to prolonged negotiations over basing rights.

One solution was to put the U-2, nicknamed “Dragon Lady,” on aircraft carriers. After all, as the U.S. Navy often puts it, an aircraft carrier is four acres of sovereign American territory anywhere in the world it sails.

In fact, the idea of deploying U-2s from carriers was brought up as early as May 1957, only a year after the aircraft’s secret debut. However, U-2 development and operations were joint efforts by the CIA and the Air Force, and the idea was shot down by the flying branch on grounds that adequate land bases were available. . .

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TOPICS: Extended News; Russia
KEYWORDS: coldwar; garypowers; militaryhistory; u2spyplane; usaf

1 posted on 01/16/2014 8:21:12 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee
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To: Brad from Tennessee
Are you telling me the U-2 had folding wings???!!
2 posted on 01/16/2014 8:25:21 AM PST by Ken522
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To: Brad from Tennessee

"Hey! They're lighting their arrows!... Can they DO that?"
3 posted on 01/16/2014 8:27:16 AM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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To: Ken522

Nope - but look up the U2G.


4 posted on 01/16/2014 8:33:07 AM PST by grobdriver
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To: Ken522

There was a proposed Navy version, armed with AIM-47s (precursor to the AIM-54 Phoenix) that would fulfill the long range standoff A2A role of the F6D Missileer that evolved into the F-111B and then to the F-14 that would have had folding wings.

The USAF “carrier” version did not. The purpose of the carrier was as a refueling platform to extend the U-2s operational range, or allow quicker turnarounds. I suppose the wings could be unbolted and removed to get it down into the hangar, if needed.


5 posted on 01/16/2014 8:34:16 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: Brad from Tennessee

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-CUV3o4PLA&feature=youtu.be


6 posted on 01/16/2014 8:34:22 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Yeah, but I bet they didn’t land them back on the carrier...


7 posted on 01/16/2014 8:34:45 AM PST by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Very interesting, thanks for finding this!


8 posted on 01/16/2014 8:36:19 AM PST by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: headstamp 2

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9 posted on 01/16/2014 8:37:10 AM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Ken522

As an aside, there was also a proposed carrier version of the SR-71, believe it or not. Never got past the paper proposal stage. It used a special cradle hooked into the catapult shuttle to support the nose gear and forward fuselage during launch.


10 posted on 01/16/2014 8:39:16 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Fascinating article. Thanks for posting.


11 posted on 01/16/2014 8:43:51 AM PST by Starboard
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To: MrB

BUT they DID !!!!


12 posted on 01/16/2014 8:50:32 AM PST by Robe (Rome did not create a great empire by talking, they did it by killing all those who opposed them)
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13 posted on 01/16/2014 8:52:31 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Powers who was captured was exchanged later for KGB Col Rudolf Abel who had operated a spy ring in the US for many years in the NYC area.


14 posted on 01/16/2014 8:55:48 AM PST by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: MrB
"Yeah, but I bet they didn’t land them back on the carrier..."

Why? I would think that landing a U2 on a carrier would be easier than a regular fighter. All that wingspan and lift should let them approach the carrier at much lower speeds.

Same applies to takeoffs.

I suspect the bigger problem is the good old "interservice rivalry".

15 posted on 01/16/2014 9:12:41 AM PST by Wonder Warthog (Newly fledged NRA Life Member (after many years as an "annual renewal" sort))
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To: headstamp 2

Onboard a U-2 at 70,000 feet:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0yw4vdzAVE


16 posted on 01/16/2014 9:24:18 AM PST by Starboard
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To: Brad from Tennessee; All
Yep, very limited operations from aircraft carriers, and even folding wings. Bunch of stuff and videos Here
17 posted on 01/16/2014 9:27:40 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee
On May 1, 1960, the Soviet Union shot down a CIA U-2 spy plane and captured its pilot, Francis Gary Powers. It was an international crisis for America’s intelligence agencies.

A planned summit between Pres. Dwight Eisenhower and Premier Nikita Khrushchev was scuttled, much to Eisenhower’s embarrassment and to the fury of the Pakistanis, from whose territory the flight had been launched.

Khrushchev's outrage over this incident was rather phony--at the time, he was running a swarm of espionage agents in the West. Nonetheless, the Powers affair provided a convenient pretext to cancel the summit, which would probably have embarrassed Khrushchev by showing the world how tough the US and its NATO allies were hanging in opposing his efforts to force us out of West Berlin.

18 posted on 01/16/2014 9:35:14 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: Wonder Warthog

the landing hear of the U2 is more like a bicycle than a tricycle, and the wingspan requires special inserts called “pogos” so be retrieved or installed upon landing or takeoff. Additionally the U2 is supposed to be notoriously difficult to land due to visibility, thus requiring a chase car to act as spotters for the aircrew and a small ground crew to install the pogos. I’ve also hear that the wingspan can act against the pilot when trying to keep the a/c level, due to the fact it generates a lot of lift. All that being said, it’s pretty cool to see a U2 take off, looks almost like watching someone ride an escalator. Steep angle and fairly slow. I’ve also seen one take off with its nose angled at about 75 degrees.


19 posted on 01/16/2014 9:35:18 AM PST by Antihero101607
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To: MrB; Ken522
The landings were not without mishaps. And the carrier-borne version had folding wings.

U-2 Aircraft Carrier Operations, Aerospaceweb.org

http://www.aerospaceweb.org/question/history/q0050.shtml

20 posted on 01/16/2014 9:35:28 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Wonder Warthog
U2's fly so easily that in order to land on carriers, special spoilers were added to prevent gliding over the deck when the pilot "requested" a stall.

On takeoff, young Navy gentlemen were necessary to hold the lady's wingtips up and level, but other than that, easy peasy.

21 posted on 01/16/2014 9:35:58 AM PST by Navy Patriot (Join the Democrats, it's not Fascism when WE do it, and the Constitution and law mean what WE say.)
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To: Fiji Hill
Powers plane was hit at 68,000 feet by an advanced Soviet surface to air missile. For quite some time the Pentagon refused to believe the Soviets had a SAM that could reach that altitude. They insisted Powers’ U-2 had experienced a flame-out forcing him to descend to 30,000 feet where the missile could reach him. After Powers bailed out and parachuted to the ground he saw another parachute descending in the distance. He surmised that a Soviet fighter plane, attempting to track him, had been hit by the same volley of missiles fired at the U-2. Under interrogations and during his trial Powers repeatedly told the Russians that the U-2’s maximum altitude was 68,000 feet. In fact it was approximately 90,000 feet.
22 posted on 01/16/2014 10:05:11 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Brad from Tennessee

At the time of Powers’ shootdown, there were some who thought that he may have been a Soviet agent and that he landed the plane in Russia. However, it turned out that the Soviets bagged him with an SA-2 Guideline, the NATO name for the missile. The Soviets called it the S-75 Dvina, but that name wasn’t known in the West until many years later.


23 posted on 01/16/2014 10:52:30 AM PST by Fiji Hill
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To: grobdriver; Ken522

The U2’s were modified with stronger landing gear and spoilers to over come the U2’s tendency to glide, and a tail hook. Some later, larger U2R’s were even modified with folding wings.

http://www.nationalmuseum.af.mil/factsheets/factsheet.asp?id=9171


24 posted on 01/16/2014 10:55:04 AM PST by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: Fiji Hill
After the Kennedy assassination put the spotlight on Lee Harvey Oswald, Francis Powers speculated that Oswald may have played a role in the U-2 incident. Oswald worked in a Marine air traffic control unit based in Japan. As a radar operator Oswald had knowledge of the altitude of U-2’s based in Japan. Powers believed Oswald may have passed this information to the Soviets before or after his defection to Russia.
25 posted on 01/16/2014 11:17:02 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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To: Ken522
"Are you telling me the U-2 had folding wings???!!"

Sure. On the other hand, getting a C-130 on the elevator was trickier.

26 posted on 01/16/2014 11:26:42 AM PST by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Mouton
KGB Col Rudolf Abel who had operated a spy ring in the US for many years in the NYC area

Today he would be the leading candidate for Mayor of New York and a strong Presidential contender.

27 posted on 01/16/2014 11:28:50 AM PST by Hardastarboard (The question of our age is whether a majority of Americans can and will vote us all into slavery.)
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To: Menehune56; Starboard
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28 posted on 01/16/2014 4:24:59 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (A politician can't give you anything he hasn't first stolen from you.)
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