Skip to comments.Huckabee endorses underdog in N.C. Senate race (Huckster working to split the conservative vote)
Posted on 01/16/2014 10:05:54 AM PST by cotton1706
Former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (R) is endorsing Baptist Minister Mark Harris (R) in North Carolina's Senate race, giving him a boost against the GOP establishment's preferred candidate.
State House Speaker Thom Tillis (R) is the preferred candidate of establishment Republicans, but Harris hopes to consolidate social conservative support in the GOP primary, and Huckabee's endorsement is his highest nod to date.
The former presidential candidate, fellow Baptist minister and social conservative leader praised Harris, who led the fight to ban gay marriage in North Carolina, as a "true conservative" in the race.
The endorsement further boosts the chances that Tillis will have a tough fight for the GOP nomination, potentially hurting Republicans' efforts to defeat Sen. Kay Hagan (D-N.C.), a top GOP target. Republicans have hoped that Tillis can avoid a tough primary and win the race without having to compete in a runoff election for the nomination.
Hagan is viewed as highly vulnerable in the race, but a messy GOP primary could boost her chances at reelection. Huckabee seemed to take a veiled shot at Tillis, who has so far struggled to unite North Carolina Republicans behind his campaign. Greg Brannon, a Tea Party favorite who has the endorsement of Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), is also in the race, as are three other candidates.
"As previous campaigns have shown in North Carolina, you can't select a candidate that divides people, you must select the candidate that unites people," Huckabee said in the statement released by Harris's campaign. "Mark is the only candidate who has the lifelong experience as a public servant that has helped guide people from all walks of life through every problem you can imagine."
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Huckabee would never endorse Brannon, and really can't endorse Tillis, since he got heavily stung by "endorsing" Lindsey Graham in neighboring South Carolina.
So Huckabee is doing the next best thing. He's attempting to split the conservative vote so Tillis comes out on top and North Carolina gets either a re-elected democrat or a moderate, Libby Dole-like republican.
cotton, there are run-offs in NC.
give us the details. Research is our friend. Misinformation is not.
A primary runoff? Then Tillis is toast
Brannon is going to win. I don’t care what Huckleberry says.
Huck did good with his Akin endorsement and then standing up to say Akin shouldn’t get out of the race when he made the biggest political goof in 30 years.
“Endorsements’ are as worthless as the paper they are reported in.........
“cotton, there are run-offs in NC.”
Thanks. I didn’t know that.
However, I still don’t trust these establishment types. They do LITERALLY EVERYTHING they possibly can to prevent a real conservative from getting a nomination, ESPECIALLY for the senate. They are hell-bent on protecting the senate from conservatives. And I still am of the mind that there’s some behind the scenes game being played here to undermine Brannon.
The Huckster may be endorsing this preacher, but he is really working
for Karl Rove and the GOPe’s by splitting the conservative vote. It’s the act
he will do when he runs for President, himself.
“...there are run-offs in NC.
give us the details. ...”
In the Republican primary, if the lead vote getter doesn’t get at least 40% of the vote, the top two Republicans head to a runoff.
We Tea Party folks want Brannon to be in the top two. If so, he’ll win the run-off and then go on and defeat Hagan in the general election. I suspect that the devious Huckster wants to prevent that from happening
Here is a link to Greg Brannon’s site.
cotton, there are run-offs in NC.
Thanks. I didnt know that.
It says that in the article.
Republicans have hoped that Tillis can avoid a tough primary and win the
race without having to compete in a runoff election for the nomination.
WOW. Why have an election? Good old Free Republic has already decided the outcome.
I agree. Chinless McConnell has really upped his game for '14.
” - - - - Huckabee served as pastor at Immanuel Baptist Church in Pine Bluff, Arkansas from 1980 to 1986 and the Beech Street Baptist Church in Texarkana from 1986 to 1992. - - - -” (Wkiipedia)
Huck is trying to solidify a very reliable base, IMHO, of course.
WOW. Why have an election? Good old Free Republic has already decided the outcome.
- - - - Huckabee served as pastor at Immanuel Baptist Church in Pine Bluff, Arkansas from 1980 to 1986 and the Beech Street Baptist Church in Texarkana from 1986 to 1992. - - - - (Wkiipedia)
No offense but this means absolutely nothing to me. I look at what slimy politicians have voted for or have done. I’m not fooled by this type of thing. There are any number of pastors who endorse democrats too. I wouldn’t listen to them on that basis either.
Go away Huckabee. You will never be President.Plainly no “discernment”.
Especially from Huckabee! lol
Nope, Potatoe was the biggest, ask any loonie lefty.
If the Huckster is backing him, then Mark Harris must be a fellow Nanny-Stater, pro-Amnesty, pro-Taxes candidate.
Huckabee would never endorse Brannon, and really can’t endorse Tillis, since he got heavily stung by “endorsing” Lindsey Graham in neighboring South Carolina.
Who really cares who that fat a** hillbilly endorses?
I wish it was a 50% requirement or run-off like we have in Texas. Any incumbent can get 40%. I know this is NC we’re talking about, but what does one have to get in SOUTH CAROLINA to avoid a run-off? Anybody know?
The incumbent is a Democrat (Kay Hagan). The 40% figure to avoid a runoff applies to the Republican primary where there are a number of challengers. We want to make sure the GOPe horse in the race is kept below 40% so he can be defeated in the Republican run-off to select Hagan’s challenger.
In South Carolina, Little Lindsey Graham must be kept below 50% in the Republican primary to avoid a run-off. Hopefully he won’t make it.
It was Mike Huckabee and Michelle Bachmann both endorsing Akin, Palin and the tea party were against him.
“...Little Lindsey Graham must be kept below 50% in the Republican primary to FORCE a run-off....”
Error corrected in caps.
“It was Mike Huckabee and Michelle Bachmann both endorsing Akin, Palin and the tea party were against him.”
Yes, Sarah Palin endorsed Sarah Steelman in that primary race instead of Akin. If Steelman had won the primary, she’d be SENATOR Steelman now helping out Ted Cruz.
“Yes, Sarah Palin endorsed Sarah Steelman in that primary race instead of Akin. If Steelman had won the primary, shed be SENATOR Steelman now helping out Ted Cruz.”
And also, with Steelman as the nominee in Missouri, there wouldn’t have been any silly rape question for either the Missouri nominee OR the Indiana nominee and SENATOR Mourdock would be helping Steelman and Cruz.
But we can argue about this stuff forever. The media with the help of the republican establishment will do whatever it takes to destroy conservatives. But moderates like McCain, Romney, Dole and the Bush family can come back over and over.
huckster is a paid vote splitter.
essentially a caucasian jessie jackson for the evagelical sucker crowd.
“...And also, with Steelman as the nominee in Missouri, there wouldnt have been any silly rape question for either the Missouri nominee OR the Indiana nominee and SENATOR Mourdock would be helping Steelman and Cruz....”
Oh yeah, I had forgotten that Mourdock became a “copy-cat” moron doing his version of Akin’s idiocy. I somehow think the Senate Conservatives Fund this cycle is doing some informal training (e.g., how not to fall for the media’s entrapment tricks and how to avoid sticking your foot in your mouth) of potential endorsees before formally endorsing them.
yea tell that to the Mo. republicans that supported that fool Akin - he got hucks endorsement. Everyone forgets how liberal huck was as the gov of Ak - just after Klinton.
Huckster is a damnable phony .do any Freepers still fall for his flapdoodle?
Cross?! This is not a cross!!! What are you talking about?!!
(but ... if you like a politician who's part Jimmy Swaggart and part Jim Nabors, it's a cross!
Yes, unlike most states though the threshold is not 50% (plus 1) but 40%. If any candidate tops 40%, then no runoff.
Primary runoffs in southern states are a vestige of the time when RAT primaries decided all winners. I wish every state had them. I think maybe 45% would be ideal, few candidates that top that but come in under 50% fail to easily win the ensuing runoff. 40% could still let a RINO win a divided field.
Anyway are we sure Tillis is that bad? I’ve seen at least one freeper say he’s not (and question Brannon’s Paul ties) despite being the choice of the dreaded establishment. What taxes did he raise that I keep hearing about?
It was mainly toll roads and river tolls etc that Tillis was involved in. He was also embroiled in some scandal that ended up with him getting censured by the local GOP, and in addition he played corporatism with some telecoms companies in the state.
The guy is bad, and the big red flag is Rove’s early involvement to try and boost Tillis. Go listen to some of Brannon’s speeches. The man is cast-iron.
Hmm, Dewcrist almost got 45% (44.67%) in Texas, I guess 50% is best.
Bang on. I hope Missouri conservatives never make this mistake again. Akin was a deathtrap waiting to spring, which is why McCatskull funded him. I don’t have a doubt that had that whole ordeal not happened, Mourdock and Steelman would be senators.
Tillis is decidedly weaker than Dewhurst. Mainly because Dewhurst was reasonably popular in the state even with conservatives. Tillis has no such good marks from the people of NC.
I’d also guess Dewhurst had a lot more personal wealth to use in the campaign. Tillis needs Rove’s bucks.
Well it looks like a huge undecided vote in the race and a badly divided field so I don’t think anyone will get 40%.
Recent PPP poll has Tillis in front with just 19%, Brannon and some lady named Heather Grant tied with 11% in 2nd place, Huck’s boy with 8% and some guy named Bill Flynn with 7% (several minor candidates getting even less than that)
Anyone have a take on Grant or Flynn? Grant is nurse and Flynn a radio guy. Given how much support Brannon and Harris have I’m surprised to see this Grant lady tied for 2nd.
I question the poll’s accuracy. A straw poll in one particular county recently had Tillis at about 2%. The man doesn’t campaign, he just fundraises with Rove. Meanwhile Brannon has criss-crossed the state, working his butt off.
All 5 main Republicans lead Hagan by 1 or 2 points BTW.
Clearly most voters are not very familiar with the choices, might as well poll “generic Republican”.
Hagan’s weakness is clear.
I care not one whit what people say in speeches—by their acts you shall know them. What has Brannon ever done to deserve our support?
If Tillis (who is reviled by the Left for his conservative leadership and votes through the years, and especially since leading the GOP House majority in passing a conservative agenda) is supported by Rove’s group, and Brannon is supported by Paultards, I’ll support Tillis every day and twice on Sunday. Rove is not someone who prefers to support liberals—he supports people whom he thinks will win the general election, which sometimes won’t be our ideal candidate; in this case, Rove is supporting a conservative. Paultards, on the other hand, support other Paultards, and apparently that’s what Brannon is.
Brannon is also being pushed hard by NC Democrat pollster Tom Jensen of PPP, so we know that he’s the GOP candidate that RATs want to run against. He’s untested and hangs out with Paultards—why the heck would Insupport him, much less prefer him to a proven conservative and proven campaigner such as Tillis?
I’m going to have to part company with you on your assessment here. You know I’ve never been a fan of the Pauls, but Karl Rove and anything he touches is toxic. There’s been almost no one else behind every bad, lousy, loser RINO candidates and their agenda like Rove has since he became a national figure. Frankly, I think this guy has been a plant from Jump Street. He’s done more to help Democrats and serve the establishment (or bipartisan/uniparty big government cabal) as a “Republican Strategist” than anyone else. He spends enormous amounts of money in service of sabotaging Conservatives. He is not and has never been on our side (and if he ever claims to be, it’s an act, a falsehood).
Tillis may not be as horrible as some describe, but it’s pretty clear he is the preference of the establishment. Another disappointment like Richard Burr (if not worse) is not what we need. The NC Tea Partiers have been behind Brannon for some time now, and I have yet to hear or see anything that is truly damning of either him or his candidacy (a la Sharron Angle in NV). Even the polling data I’ve seen bears it out that Tillis is the weakest general election candidate and Hagan would have a much easier time tying him to all the alleged negative legislative red meat stuff to gin up Democrat turnout. Brannon has no such problem.
DJ, with all due respect, just because Karl Rove and American Crossroads have supported some duds in the past does not mean that they only support establishment RINOs. In 2012, they supported Josh Mandel, Richard Mourdock and Deb Fischer, among others (see http://investigations.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/11/08/15007504-karl-roves-election-debacle-super-pacs-spending-was-nearly-for-naught?lite). True, Rove is unlikely to support a candidate with whom Big Business would have qualms about, but I don’t have a problem with a conservative candidate such as Tillis whose belief in the free market is shared by Big Business.
So the “NC Tea Partiers” support Brannon? Who the heck speaks for “Tea Partiers”? It is a movement of individuals with no one leader, and if some self-appointed “Tea Party leaders” support Brannon it likely is because they’re Paulistinians themselves or because they have heard Brannongive some red-meat speeches and don’t know that Brannon is a Paulistinian. And you are aware that political newcomers with no record on which to stand frequently tout “Tea Party support” even when they’re not true conservatives, right? (Heck, I’ve seen leftists claim to be “Tea Partiers.”) Besides, if some Tea Party members or leaders reflexively support whichever candidate has the slimmest record of achievement then we’ll end up with candidates who may have no idea how to win a freaking election and who, if elected, would be cyphers.
As for your statement that “the polling data Ive seen bears it out that Tillis is the weakest general election candidate,” you should be aware that he only polling company who has been releasing NC Senate polls is PPP, run by North Carolina Democrat Tommy Jensen. Jensen is notorious for agenda-driven polls early in the cycle so as to boost Democrat fundraising and discourage Republicans, and, in the case of GOP primaries, to try to get Republicans to nominate the weakest GE candidate possible. The most shameless example of his agenda polls was when he showed Todd Akin with a lead over McCaskill after his politically lethal statement regarding “legitimate rape” and whatnot, while every other poll showed McCaskill beating Akin like a rented mule, and PPP’s poll gave Akin what he was seeking to justify him staying in the race instead of dropping out (and allowing a conservative Republican who could win to replace him) like any decent conservative and Republican would have done. And when it comes to elections in his home state of NC, Jensen is even worse, pushing his agenda to the nth degree. He risibly had Elaine Marshall within striking distance of Burr throughout the summer and early fall of 2010 in order to keep Democrats motivated, and he never passes up the opportunity to run interference in the GOP primaries. So Jensen’s polls showing the Paultard Brannon as the “most electable Republican” are not to be taken seriously. (And, BTW, the most recent poll by PPP showed every candidate being equally likely to beat Hagan, so not even Jensen could keep up his shenanigans to the same degree as before, probably because Nate Silver, Nate Cohn and other liberals have criticized Jensen’s arbitrary methodology publicly.)
Thom Tillis has a remarkable record of achievement as Speaker, spearheading a conservative revolution in NC. When the GOP achieved a majority after 2010 (for the first time since Reconstruction), but when the governor was a Democrat who could veto conservative bills, he still got a few measures passed with veto overrides, and obtained the votes to place the NC Marriage Amendment on the ballot for a May 2012 vote (it was approved by the voters with 61%). Moreover, due to the fact that the NC Constitution does not allow the governor to veto redistricting plans, Tillis and his fellow Republicans obtained passage of redistricting maps for the state house and senate that cement 60%-70% GOP majorities in both houses for at least the next decade (and since the maps pretty much guarantee that Republicans will control both houses after each subsequent census, they can just redraw the maps again each decade to remain in power in perpetuity), and of a redistricting map for Congress that turned an 8-5 Democrat U.S. House delegation into a 10-3 GOP U.S. House delegation (it currently is 9-4 GOP because McIntyre held on by like 700 votes in 2012, but he already announced his retirement and the seat is not rated “safe Republican”). And with a Republican governor being sworn in in January 2013, Tillis has shepherded an incredible amount of conservative legislation through the House, on voter ID and other election matters, abortion, labor relations, taxes, environmental issues, etc.
So Tillis not only has talked the talk, he has walked the walk. What has Brannon done to prove his conservative mettle other than give a few speeches, join Ron Paul’s cult and donate money to Paultard B.J. Lawson’s congressional campaign? (Yes, Greg Brannon’s only contribution of $200 or more to a candidate for federal office since 1990 was his $500 donation to Paultard Lawson in June 2010, when Lawson blew our best chance since 1998 to defeat Congressman David Price; and if you weren’t sure that Lawson was a Paultard, check this out: http://www.ronpaulforums.com/showthread.php?129151-BJ-Lawson-for-Congress-North-Carolina-District-4.)
So it would take a heck of a lot more than an endorsement from American Crossroads for me to turn my back on Thom Tillis and support a candidate in Brannon who is at best unproven, and perhaps another Justin Amash waiting to happen. Nominating Thom Tillis will give us U.S. Senator Thom Tillis; nominating Greg Brannon will give us either 6 more years of the execrable Kay Hagan, or 6 years of a Senator whose strings will be pulled by an anti-Semitic, anti-U.S.-military, pro-heroin-legalization, pro-open-borders cult leader. Frankly, I don’t think that it’s a close call at all.
Thanks for the info. Glad Graham has to have 50% to avoid a run-off. He’s not going to make it.
If this holds, this is great news. A serious threat against a high-profile RINO, if not a take-down, should put the fear of the Tea Party into them.
“The establishment wants Tillis, the Tea Party wants Brannon....”
I have noticed the appearance of in this thread of several defenders of Rove’s man Tillis posting treatises that spread FUD about Brannon and tout the glories of Tillis. Interesting—I guess prior to the 2014 fall elections we’ll be facing difficult struggles between the GOPe and the Tea Party in primaries across the nation. The Rovians and GOPe are pulling out all the stops.
Check out this post on Red Racing Horses by a North Carolina Republican:
Their disputes with Tillis amount to 1) hes not angry acting enough; 2) he supposedly interfered in primaries to support NC House candidates he views as electable; 3) He doesnt immediately rule out the idea of toll roads.
Seriously thats it.
Currently NC-04. Previously NC-02,-09,-07.
by: GOPTarHeel @ Fri Jan 17, 2014 at 08:35:53 AM CST
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meanwhile, my premise on this other thread ... seems be as rejected on FreepRep as it is in real life.
1. The pro-family movement in CT state HOUSE has had successes only when it fights on all 3 fronts: (a) in GOP seats, defeat the RINO in a primary, (b) in swing districts, defeat the lefty DEM with a conservative GOPer (c) in heavy DEM districts, defeat the progressive by supporting his opponent.
2. In real life, conservatives often do not show up. In the example here, Juan Candelaria has been endorsed in the past by FIC (Family Institute of Conn) ... Winfield is NARAL endorsed and LMF-gay endorsed (Homo-Love Makes a Family)
3. Another fail. Meanwhile, pro-family black DEM puts up smoke signals for support in his effort to grab the soon-vacated Winfield House seat.
without that 3-front approach, pro-family is just a minority part of a minority party in CT.
Pete, I agree with your three-pronged approach. And thanks again for your efforts; you’re doing God’s work in the Nutmeg State.