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Do You Want Mandated Psych Testing for Your 5-Year OId? NY Does!
The Independent Sentinel ^ | January 15, 2014 | Sara Noble

Posted on 01/16/2014 11:46:39 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Now they want to psych test your little children. What is New York going to do with that information?

A bill introduced by State Senator Margaret Markey, A8186-2013, calls for an amendment to education law to mandate psychological screenings for students in public schools as part of the required health certificate.

The law reads that a mandatory health certificate “shall also state that a psychological examination was performed and that the child is mentally fit to permit attendance at school.”

That’s not all. The bill further reads: “Each such certificate shall also state the student’s body mass index (BMI) and weight status category.”

What do they plan to do with this information? Why would we need it when New York already has massive regulations and programs for special education?

They also plan to leave it to the school physician or nurse to conduct a blood test for sickle cell anemia in those cases where they believe it is warranted.

This would apply to all new entrants, not just kindergarten children.

The bill can be found at the NYS Senate.

Markey, a Queens legislator, is famous for going after salt in cooking in restaurants and pushing for a sex abuse bill that targeted Catholic schools though the overwhelming majority of sex abuse cases occurred in public schools.

This bill does not have a co-sponsor and will probably go nowhere but people must understand one thing – this is where statists want to go.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: albany; banglist; bullystate; bureaucrats; children; education; margaretmarkey; nannystate; psychtesting; publicschools

1 posted on 01/16/2014 11:46:39 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks
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To: SheLion; Eric Blair 2084; -YYZ-; 31R1O; 383rr; AFreeBird; AGreatPer; Alamo-Girl; Alia; altura; ...

New York Nanny State PING!


2 posted on 01/16/2014 11:47:20 AM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“We are going to take things away from you [eg your children?] for the ‘common good’.” - Hillary Clinton


3 posted on 01/16/2014 11:48:31 AM PST by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

4 posted on 01/16/2014 11:50:22 AM PST by P.O.E. (Pray for America)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

They are looking for future Tea Party conservatives at the child’s age so they can save them before its too late.

No such concerns over future homosexuals though.
that’s normal and healthy.


5 posted on 01/16/2014 11:50:36 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Every little boys that shows an interest in guns will be labeled mentally challenged.


6 posted on 01/16/2014 11:51:17 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“Positive rights” folks. This is how the government “helps” you.


7 posted on 01/16/2014 11:51:56 AM PST by henkster (Communists never negotiate.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

get out of the public indoctrination centers now!


8 posted on 01/16/2014 11:52:08 AM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

This will involve asking the child if the parents go to church, say bad things about Obama, own a gun, wants to be a dog or a girl.

Don’t leave the pervs alone with your kids!!


9 posted on 01/16/2014 11:53:45 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Ahh. This is the next evolution of gun control. If we can label a kid with some mental illness (regardless of how innocuous), we can note their file and prevent them from ever being able to legally pass a background check to purchase firearms.

Right?


10 posted on 01/16/2014 11:54:32 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Liberals can afford for things to go well, to work, for folks to be happy. They'd be out of work.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
mandate psychological screenings for students in public schools...

If the media is considered public enemy #1, public education is a close second. With each passing day we look more like North Korea.
11 posted on 01/16/2014 11:56:58 AM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Followed the link to the bill text - the first paragraph or two are worse than they originally sound...if that is possible. Here’s a troubling exerpt which indicates they require students to be tested a total of four times throughout school and that the state can test any child at any time for any reason. That should help them determine if their efforts to eradicate spiritual faith or conservative values from the student population is working so they can fine tune their program.

“A health certificate shall be furnished by each student in the
public schools upon his or her entrance in such schools and upon his or
her entry into the grades prescribed by the commissioner in regulations,
provided that such regulations shall require such certificates at least
twice during the elementary grades and twice in the secondary grades. An
examination and health history of any child may be required by the local
school authorities at any time in their discretion to promote the educa-
tional interests of such child.”


12 posted on 01/16/2014 12:00:04 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Most 5 yr olds are maniacs of one type or another.


13 posted on 01/16/2014 12:02:09 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Followed by mandatory ineligibility for 2nd amendment rights due to having a record of psychiatric "treatment/evaluation". No thanks. Screw New York. Their motives are so transparent.
14 posted on 01/16/2014 12:04:20 PM PST by Myrddin
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To: ransomnote

The idiot senator pushing this should be put in jail for this foolishness.


15 posted on 01/16/2014 12:04:50 PM PST by darkangel82
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
I think before the NY adopts mandatory psych testing for school kids, lawmakers should first have themselves psych tested!!

Lead by example.

Require a test before they run for office and annually thereafter!
16 posted on 01/16/2014 12:05:31 PM PST by TruthRespecter (The times demand ACTION, not just words.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Promote reliance on psycho babble, rather than religion.


17 posted on 01/16/2014 12:08:03 PM PST by G Larry
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To: BenLurkin
Eventually the commie left realizes that even they can't keep track of the labyrinth of onerous laws and regulations they've created and replace them with one big rule for simplicity and efficiency... “Danger: Keep away from the electrified perimeter” which is clearly marked with skull and crossbones.
18 posted on 01/16/2014 12:08:37 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

“if the child is mentally fit to permit attendance at school.”

So where does he go if not mentally fit?


19 posted on 01/16/2014 12:10:33 PM PST by Scrambler Bob ( Concerning bo -- that refers to the president. If I capitalize it, I mean the dog.)
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To: ransomnote

Actually I think that excerpt I posted means that the minimum testing is more than four times. It specifies upon entrance to schools AND upon entering grades specified for testing which shall be 2 times at the lower grades and 2 times at the upper grades. I went to 4 schools throughout my childhood because they were separated by grade 1-4, 5, 6-8 and 9-12. Depending on what grades mandate testing I might be tested anywhere from 5 to 8 times (approximately).


20 posted on 01/16/2014 12:10:34 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Won’t go anywhere do could still be useful for political ads.


21 posted on 01/16/2014 12:13:10 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

How much you want to bet that the school would either not allow parents to know the results of students’ evaluations or would only release limited information upon formal request. This would be done because whomever releases psychological evaluation information to others (usually the patients themselves) becomes legally responsible for the actions of the person informed. So, for example, if you evaluate someone with Borderline Personality disorder (which happen to be prone to suicide) and tell them their diagnosis, (BPD) you become liable, legally, should they become suicidal re their diagnoses.
I truly doubt school staff is qualified to understand those evaluations and would be prone to misusing and misunderstanding it and then they wouldn’t tell the parents what’s in them....


22 posted on 01/16/2014 12:25:53 PM PST by ransomnote
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
Why don't they just assign the child his/her life occupation at the same time, while they're at it.

Then mandate that a QR code be tatooed to the child's arm so he can be forever scanned for his "permanent record" of occupational performance.

-PJ

23 posted on 01/16/2014 12:30:34 PM PST by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I added the “banglist” keyword, as this does relate to gun control (get ‘em on an “ineligible to own guns” list while they’re young)


24 posted on 01/16/2014 12:35:09 PM PST by Disambiguator
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

As a School Psychologist I would strongly protest this bill. Thank God I do not live/work in NY.


25 posted on 01/16/2014 12:35:47 PM PST by SoldierDad (Proud dad of an Army Soldier who has survived 24 months of Combat deployment.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Big Govt getting bigger

You can bet, like everything else libs do....this will be directed at white kids....while black & Hispanic kids get a pass. Bet on it


26 posted on 01/16/2014 12:36:34 PM PST by SeminoleCounty (Amnesty And Not Ending ObamaCare Will Kill GOP In 2014)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks
"The law reads that a mandatory health certificate “shall also state that a psychological examination was performed and that the child is mentally fit to permit attendance at school.”

The reverse will also hold true. That certificate can be "suspended" by a bureaucrat, pending further review. That record will carry into adulthood as well. Welcome to the gulag, New Yorkers. You get the government you deserve.
27 posted on 01/16/2014 12:38:00 PM PST by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: Scrambler Bob

They stay in the school. But they get double the funding for that special needs student. Get it?


28 posted on 01/16/2014 12:38:55 PM PST by dasboot
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To: Disambiguator

Good call.


29 posted on 01/16/2014 12:39:08 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: Scrambler Bob
So where does he go if not mentally fit?

Duh - straight to the legislature with them!

30 posted on 01/16/2014 12:39:45 PM PST by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Scrambler Bob
So where does he go if not mentally fit?

You could homeschool him. Even a total psycho who is homeschooled would be better-educated (and probably more capable) than the mentally fit publik skrewelers.

31 posted on 01/16/2014 12:41:41 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Screw that.


32 posted on 01/16/2014 12:44:50 PM PST by oldenuff2no ( Retired AB Ranger, 23 years active duty.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Amazing that NY is only doing this now. The program was in full swing in the 1990’s.
One daughter was identified ADD. The other needed psych testing to qualify for advanced math. Or she’d have to repeat algebra 1

The schools were on a mission to push as many kids as they could into SPED...for the money.

So we started homeschooling.

All good.

The first was illiterate. We found out the hard way. She’s a writer now.
The other is an engineer and deck officer...chief mate on Endeavor.....of Titanic fame....Bob Ballard’s discovery of.

I have to thank the useful idiots for the wake up call.
Best of years...teaching them. And they were able to achieve their dreams.


33 posted on 01/16/2014 1:06:43 PM PST by dasboot
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Our name is Equality 7-2521, as it is written on the iron bracelets that all men wear their left wrists with their names written upon it.


34 posted on 01/16/2014 1:07:39 PM PST by CSM (Keeper of the Dave Ramsey Ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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To: Tenacious 1

Not just the child. Anyone living in the child’s household.


35 posted on 01/16/2014 1:09:37 PM PST by Black Agnes
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

I resemble that remark.

Tru dat

“Even a total psycho who is homeschooled would be better-educated (and probably more capable) than the mentally fit publik skrewelers.”


36 posted on 01/16/2014 1:17:51 PM PST by dasboot
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To: dasboot

Psycho parent teacher.


37 posted on 01/16/2014 1:19:52 PM PST by dasboot
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

According to her biography she is married to a New York state Supreme Court Justice. Scary couple, both Rats.


38 posted on 01/16/2014 1:22:35 PM PST by Wiser now (Socialism does not eliminate poverty, it guarantees it.)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks; BenLurkin; P.O.E.; sickoflibs; Resolute Conservative; henkster; ...
“We are going to take things away from you [eg your children?] for the ‘common good’.” - Hillary Clinton

Don't worry, NY Republicans will address the problem by rolling over and apologizing for parents.


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39 posted on 01/16/2014 1:40:35 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: dasboot

I believe the key to REALLY getting the country back to some semblance of what the founders intended is to homeschool. Kids get a real education, learn how to think, are not indoctrinated, and are taught their parents morals/values, not that of some Lib/Leftist Union ‘teacher’.


40 posted on 01/16/2014 1:54:28 PM PST by MissMagnolia (You see, truth always resides wherever brave men still have ammunition. I pick truth. (John Ransom))
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To: ransomnote
"I truly doubt school staff is qualified to understand those evaluations"

Most Zychatists are wacko and as likely are many psych majors. I wouldn't trust their evaluations of any but the obviously crazy.

41 posted on 01/16/2014 2:02:04 PM PST by Paladin2
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Had Enough Yet ?


42 posted on 01/16/2014 2:07:33 PM PST by S.O.S121.500 (Had Enough Yet ?............................ Enforce the Bill of Rights............ It's the LAW !!!)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

yeah and the same people that passed this law would probably pass a law saying that same 5 year old could get a sex change without anybody being allowed to question it


43 posted on 01/16/2014 3:09:41 PM PST by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: Tolerance Sucks Rocks

Does your daddy have a gun? Does he yell a lot. Does he hit you? Dose he hit mommy? Did anyone ever “touch” you? And on and on...


44 posted on 01/16/2014 4:06:53 PM PST by TalBlack
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To: MissMagnolia

Agreed. I believe my girls are immune to herd poisoning. My youngest in homeschooling her daughter. We started something that will last through generations. A liberty and freedom virus.


45 posted on 01/16/2014 8:33:32 PM PST by dasboot
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