Skip to comments.Customer kills gun-wielding suspect in Dallas Co. Dollar General
Posted on 01/16/2014 6:17:19 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants
DALLAS COUNTY, AL (WSFA) -
A tense ordeal inside a Dollar General store in Orrville ended with a gunman dead at the hands of a customer who took action. The fatal shooting happened around 12:45 p.m. Thursday on Highway 22.
Dallas County Sheriff Harris Huffman Jr. says the gunman walked into the store waving a gun in the air and forced a cashier and customer at gunpoint towards a break room area. At that point, the customer pulled out a concealed weapon and shot the suspect in the chest once. The gunman was pronounced dead at the scene. The entire incident played out in less than five minutes, police said.
According to the sheriff, other customers and delivery men were inside the store at the time of the incident. Several customers making their way into the store saw the man waving a gun and ran away.
The Dollar General store was closed Thursday afternoon following the shooting. A sign on the front door indicated it would reopen Friday. WSFA was asked to leave the property by Dollar General management.
There was another sign on the doors of the business stating that open carry of a weapon was not allowed inside the store. According to the sheriff, the customer's gun was concealed and inside a holster. His investigators are confirming whether or not the customer has a valid concealed carry permit.
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Right up your alley.
Does it become open carry if you take the gun out of your concealed holster and shoot the bad guy with it? It’s a good thing the store clerk didn’t do this, or they’d probably fire him.
Don’t go anywhere at gunpoint.
I really do like happy endings.
Was probably some guy looking for payback for something.
If it WASN’T a rob job, and it was some emotional BS, you just know in your heart innocent folks would have ended up dead.
“An Armed Society, Is A Polite Society.”
Don’t know who said that, but damn straight good logic.
Agreed. At least he had an ace in the hole, so to speak.
***His investigators are confirming whether or not the customer has a valid concealed carry permit.***
Would they feel better if the gunman had shot everyone in the store?
I am going to make a prediction that the cause of death was gunfire, perfesser.
That saying is attributed to the character Lazarus Long in a book by Robert Heinlein. I think the book was “Time Enough for Love”. Great book by a great writer, even if he was a little flaky.
Tennessee law states that a person who is legally allowed to possess a firearm cannot be charged with a firearms related crime if he/she uses it in self defense. In other words, it doesn matter if you have a valid carry permit or not.
Never get into a car trunk at the point of a gun, you're gonna be killed either way, so make him shoot you where you stand, that way, if he still wants your carcass in the trunk, he'll have to heft your dead ass in there himself and maybe he will at least get a hernia out of it.
He would if he tried lifting me anyway.
The big hole in his chest would give it away.
Heinlein was the father of modern Science Fiction, a US Naval Academy graduate, and quite flaky.
The first sentence in the article is well written.
But by the time I read to the end, I prayed that the “customer who took action” will not be punished for quick and exact reflexes.
“...the gunman walked into the store waving a gun in the air and forced a cashier and customer at gunpoint towards a break room area....”
Break rooms and refrigerated rooms are where perps, with murder(s) planned, take victims to be killed. I trust the armed customer gave the perp a double-tap to the chest followed by one to the head—the situation called for that in my opinion.
Dead right there.
I like your tag line, it’s true if we did that we would be happier.
I think it is time I read more of his books.
Absolutely,once a gunman is going to put you in a car trunk, a store room ,a van,etc. It is time to fight for your life. How many times have we seen that scenario end badly where they think they are going to get locked in and it is an execution.
That is a good law! Of course, that essentially means that Tennessee has Constitutional carry for the smart and responsible people who don’t wave their concealed weapons around like idiots. And anyone who uses the weapon for something other than self-defense is going to be charged with much more serious crimes than carrying a concealed weapon without a permit.
I like that law. Any chance of making it federal?
Very few people are kidnapped for ransom. Usually a kidnapping ends in the murder of the victim.
“An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” Robert A. Heinlein
Give the Dollar General customer a large gift certificate and a box of cigars.
If it were up to me, I would extend that law to ALL citizens, ex-cons and all. After all, should even an ex-con have the right to self defense?
is this just another example of not messin with Texas? dont these criminals have any idea of what %% of Texan’s have guns?
Wasn’t in Texas.
Dallas Co, Alabama
46000 population; 70 per cent black 28 white. Selma of civil rights fame is in this county.
Important note: see the huge advantage the cc holder had, even over a perp who was brandishing?
Imagine the tactics of the situation. The cc holder could look for an opening, had the element of surprise, could choose the time to act, and followed Tuco’s rule(*)
(*) “When you have to shoot, shoot. Don’t talk.”
Concealed carry radically increases the ‘degree of difficulty’ of armed crime.
/ sarc, in case it's needed. I'd hope not by now.
That was some mighty fine shooting. One shot, no question, DRT.
My SOP when carrying my 9mm is (barring special circumstances) if I shoot, I shoot #1 center mass and immediately follow up with #2 to the head. Then I'll evaluate the target. I figure the center mass is the high percentage shot, while the head shot has the biggest chance of stopping the perp in their tracks. If I'm carrying my .45 (a full size S&W stainless 1911) I'll go with just the center-mass shot then evaluate.
Great .. the owner just told the crooks .. it’s okay, we don’t have any people in here who can shoot you.
Read a little further. The prohibition was against OPEN carry only. They apparently didn’t care if you kept quiet and kept the gun out of sight.
One shot only. Well done.
They should give you a medal, but all you'll get is the media harassing you, and the post-adrenaline-dump blues.
It's OK. The Lord knows you did the right thing, and so do many of your fellow Alabamians.
Article indicates this was not a robbery, what the heck was going on? Domestic? Disgruntled employee?
“Article indicates this was not a robbery, what the heck was going on? Domestic? Disgruntled employee?”
Even more reason to take him off the count. Somebody was going to be killed and it’s best it was the perp.
These people need to be called what they are.
Wonder why they didn't comment on the bad guy having disobeyed the "open carry" sign?
“***His investigators are confirming whether or not the customer has a valid concealed carry permit.***
Would they feel better if the gunman had shot everyone in the store?”
If he didn’t they will not do much. The prosecutor knows that he could never get a conviction.
If this was New York and were the shooter I would have left before the police arrived
“Dont go anywhere at gunpoint.”
Most important of all: DON’T MESS WITH TEXAS! ;)
“Wasnt in Texas.
Dallas Co, Alabama”
Well, don’t mess with Alabama, either!!!;)
Very dangerous facing someone armed.
Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice.
Center mass first, because it tends to freeze the target long enough to make an aimed shot to the head. It works even with a .22lr, so carry and practice, whatever you choose to carry. (The Ruger SR22 is a very nice .22lr for carry; magazine followers changed out can give 14 rounds in the magazine and one in the chamber for double action first round.)
same guy who said ‘good fences make good neighbors’.
Lazarus Long was a popular character in many Heinlein novels.
I know what you mean, I’ve read many of his novels including the Lazarus Long series.
He was a white guy from a respected Dallas County family. I’ve heard he had mental health issues. It’s been quite a shock to people in Selma and Dallas Co.