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Customer kills gun-wielding suspect in Dallas Co. Dollar General
KSFV ^ | 1/16/14 | WSFA News staff

Posted on 01/16/2014 6:17:19 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants

DALLAS COUNTY, AL (WSFA) -

A tense ordeal inside a Dollar General store in Orrville ended with a gunman dead at the hands of a customer who took action. The fatal shooting happened around 12:45 p.m. Thursday on Highway 22.

Dallas County Sheriff Harris Huffman Jr. says the gunman walked into the store waving a gun in the air and forced a cashier and customer at gunpoint towards a break room area. At that point, the customer pulled out a concealed weapon and shot the suspect in the chest once. The gunman was pronounced dead at the scene. The entire incident played out in less than five minutes, police said.

According to the sheriff, other customers and delivery men were inside the store at the time of the incident. Several customers making their way into the store saw the man waving a gun and ran away.

The Dollar General store was closed Thursday afternoon following the shooting. A sign on the front door indicated it would reopen Friday. WSFA was asked to leave the property by Dollar General management.

There was another sign on the doors of the business stating that open carry of a weapon was not allowed inside the store. According to the sheriff, the customer's gun was concealed and inside a holster. His investigators are confirming whether or not the customer has a valid concealed carry permit.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Alabama
KEYWORDS: 2a; armedcitizen; banglist; concealedcarry; drt
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Customer who shot bad guy: "Didn't you see the sign? No open carry." BLAM!
1 posted on 01/16/2014 6:17:19 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants
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To: marktwain

Right up your alley.


2 posted on 01/16/2014 6:17:44 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The War on Drugs has been used as an excuse to steal your rights. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Does it become open carry if you take the gun out of your concealed holster and shoot the bad guy with it? It’s a good thing the store clerk didn’t do this, or they’d probably fire him.


3 posted on 01/16/2014 6:22:03 PM PST by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Don’t go anywhere at gunpoint.


4 posted on 01/16/2014 6:22:38 PM PST by duffee (NO poll tax, NO tax on firearms, ammunition or gun safes. NO gun free zones.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

LOL!


5 posted on 01/16/2014 6:23:23 PM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where are Holder's "po folks" getting the I.D.s to sign up for ObamaCare?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

I really do like happy endings.

Was probably some guy looking for payback for something.

If it WASN’T a rob job, and it was some emotional BS, you just know in your heart innocent folks would have ended up dead.

“An Armed Society, Is A Polite Society.”

Don’t know who said that, but damn straight good logic.


6 posted on 01/16/2014 6:24:47 PM PST by ConradofMontferrat ( According to mudslimz, my handle is a HATE CRIME. And I HOPE they don't like it.)
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To: duffee

Agreed. At least he had an ace in the hole, so to speak.


7 posted on 01/16/2014 6:25:50 PM PST by Larry Lucido (If you like your all your base, you can keep your all your base. - CATS)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

***His investigators are confirming whether or not the customer has a valid concealed carry permit.***

Would they feel better if the gunman had shot everyone in the store?


8 posted on 01/16/2014 6:27:49 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
"... An autopsy will be conducted by the Alabama Department of Forensic Sciences."

I am going to make a prediction that the cause of death was gunfire, perfesser.

9 posted on 01/16/2014 6:27:53 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: ConradofMontferrat

That saying is attributed to the character Lazarus Long in a book by Robert Heinlein. I think the book was “Time Enough for Love”. Great book by a great writer, even if he was a little flaky.


10 posted on 01/16/2014 6:28:06 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The War on Drugs has been used as an excuse to steal your rights. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

Tennessee law states that a person who is legally allowed to possess a firearm cannot be charged with a firearms related crime if he/she uses it in self defense. In other words, it doesn matter if you have a valid carry permit or not.


11 posted on 01/16/2014 6:30:10 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The War on Drugs has been used as an excuse to steal your rights. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: duffee
Don’t go anywhere at gunpoint.

Never get into a car trunk at the point of a gun, you're gonna be killed either way, so make him shoot you where you stand, that way, if he still wants your carcass in the trunk, he'll have to heft your dead ass in there himself and maybe he will at least get a hernia out of it.

He would if he tried lifting me anyway.

12 posted on 01/16/2014 6:31:21 PM PST by Graybeard58 (_.. ._. .. _. _._ __ ___ ._. . ___ ..._ ._ ._.. _ .. _. .)
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To: The KG9 Kid

The big hole in his chest would give it away.


13 posted on 01/16/2014 6:33:19 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The War on Drugs has been used as an excuse to steal your rights. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

~~~the gunman walked into the store waving a gun in the air and forced a cashier and customer at gunpoint towards a break room area. At that point, the customer pulled out a concealed weapon and shot the suspect in the chest once. The gunman was pronounced dead at the scene.~~~

It was a good shooting. If they’re forcing you into another area, it can often be for an execution.


14 posted on 01/16/2014 6:33:57 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Heinlein was the father of modern Science Fiction, a US Naval Academy graduate, and quite flaky.


15 posted on 01/16/2014 6:37:05 PM PST by batterycommander (a little more rubble, a lot less trouble)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

DRT!


16 posted on 01/16/2014 6:38:42 PM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

The first sentence in the article is well written.
But by the time I read to the end, I prayed that the “customer who took action” will not be punished for quick and exact reflexes.


17 posted on 01/16/2014 6:39:03 PM PST by SisterK (behold a pale horse)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

“...the gunman walked into the store waving a gun in the air and forced a cashier and customer at gunpoint towards a break room area....”
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Break rooms and refrigerated rooms are where perps, with murder(s) planned, take victims to be killed. I trust the armed customer gave the perp a double-tap to the chest followed by one to the head—the situation called for that in my opinion.


18 posted on 01/16/2014 6:40:45 PM PST by House Atreides
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To: Blood of Tyrants
The gunman was pronounced dead at the scene.

D.R.T.

Dead right there.

19 posted on 01/16/2014 6:41:56 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Graybeard58

I like your tag line, it’s true if we did that we would be happier.


20 posted on 01/16/2014 6:42:22 PM PST by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: batterycommander

I think it is time I read more of his books.


21 posted on 01/16/2014 6:43:49 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The War on Drugs has been used as an excuse to steal your rights. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Graybeard58

Absolutely,once a gunman is going to put you in a car trunk, a store room ,a van,etc. It is time to fight for your life. How many times have we seen that scenario end badly where they think they are going to get locked in and it is an execution.


22 posted on 01/16/2014 6:45:16 PM PST by bt-99 ("Get off my Lawn")
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To: Blood of Tyrants

That is a good law! Of course, that essentially means that Tennessee has Constitutional carry for the smart and responsible people who don’t wave their concealed weapons around like idiots. And anyone who uses the weapon for something other than self-defense is going to be charged with much more serious crimes than carrying a concealed weapon without a permit.

I like that law. Any chance of making it federal?


23 posted on 01/16/2014 6:46:55 PM PST by lcms rev
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To: bt-99

Very few people are kidnapped for ransom. Usually a kidnapping ends in the murder of the victim.


24 posted on 01/16/2014 6:47:49 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The War on Drugs has been used as an excuse to steal your rights. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: ConradofMontferrat

“An armed society is a polite society. Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life.” Robert A. Heinlein


25 posted on 01/16/2014 6:49:24 PM PST by CrazyIvan (Obama phones= Bread and circuits.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Give the Dollar General customer a large gift certificate and a box of cigars.


26 posted on 01/16/2014 6:50:14 PM PST by VideoDoctor
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To: lcms rev

If it were up to me, I would extend that law to ALL citizens, ex-cons and all. After all, should even an ex-con have the right to self defense?


27 posted on 01/16/2014 6:51:45 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The War on Drugs has been used as an excuse to steal your rights. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

is this just another example of not messin with Texas? dont these criminals have any idea of what %% of Texan’s have guns?


28 posted on 01/16/2014 6:53:37 PM PST by Cruz_West_Paul2016
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To: Cruz_West_Paul2016

Wasn’t in Texas.

Dallas Co, Alabama


29 posted on 01/16/2014 6:59:12 PM PST by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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To: All

46000 population; 70 per cent black 28 white. Selma of civil rights fame is in this county.


30 posted on 01/16/2014 7:12:33 PM PST by Rockpile
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Important note: see the huge advantage the cc holder had, even over a perp who was brandishing?

Imagine the tactics of the situation. The cc holder could look for an opening, had the element of surprise, could choose the time to act, and followed Tuco’s rule(*)

(*) “When you have to shoot, shoot. Don’t talk.”

Concealed carry radically increases the ‘degree of difficulty’ of armed crime.


31 posted on 01/16/2014 7:23:26 PM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (There Is Still A Very Hot War On Terror, Just Not On The MSM. Rantburg.com)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Not another one of these. This is all we'll hear for days on the MSM. They just wear us out when a good guy with a gun stops a bad guy with a gun.

/ sarc, in case it's needed. I'd hope not by now.

32 posted on 01/16/2014 7:26:00 PM PST by Hardastarboard (The question of our age is whether a majority of Americans can and will vote us all into slavery.)
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To: House Atreides
...the customer pulled out a concealed weapon and shot the suspect in the chest once. The gunman was pronounced dead at the scene.

That was some mighty fine shooting. One shot, no question, DRT.

My SOP when carrying my 9mm is (barring special circumstances) if I shoot, I shoot #1 center mass and immediately follow up with #2 to the head. Then I'll evaluate the target. I figure the center mass is the high percentage shot, while the head shot has the biggest chance of stopping the perp in their tracks. If I'm carrying my .45 (a full size S&W stainless 1911) I'll go with just the center-mass shot then evaluate.

33 posted on 01/16/2014 7:26:08 PM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Great .. the owner just told the crooks .. it’s okay, we don’t have any people in here who can shoot you.

STUPID!!!


34 posted on 01/16/2014 7:28:24 PM PST by CyberAnt (MY AMERICA: "... I'm terrified it's slipping away.")
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To: CyberAnt

Read a little further. The prohibition was against OPEN carry only. They apparently didn’t care if you kept quiet and kept the gun out of sight.


35 posted on 01/16/2014 7:31:13 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The War on Drugs has been used as an excuse to steal your rights. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Feel good story of the day. Another murderous thug dispatched in Alabama by a concealed carry citizen, and nobody else got hurt.

One shot only. Well done.

They should give you a medal, but all you'll get is the media harassing you, and the post-adrenaline-dump blues.

It's OK. The Lord knows you did the right thing, and so do many of your fellow Alabamians.

36 posted on 01/16/2014 7:36:55 PM PST by backwoods-engineer (Blog: www.BackwoodsEngineer.com)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Article indicates this was not a robbery, what the heck was going on? Domestic? Disgruntled employee?


37 posted on 01/16/2014 7:37:53 PM PST by tioga (Wise men still seek Him.)
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To: tioga

“Article indicates this was not a robbery, what the heck was going on? Domestic? Disgruntled employee?”

Even more reason to take him off the count. Somebody was going to be killed and it’s best it was the perp.


38 posted on 01/16/2014 7:46:12 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

These people need to be called what they are.

Elitist Pigs.


39 posted on 01/16/2014 7:48:27 PM PST by headstamp 2 (What would Scooby do?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
There was another sign on the doors of the business stating that open carry of a weapon was not allowed inside the store. According to the sheriff, the customer's gun was concealed and inside a holster. His investigators are confirming whether or not the customer has a valid concealed carry permit

Wonder why they didn't comment on the bad guy having disobeyed the "open carry" sign?

40 posted on 01/16/2014 7:58:58 PM PST by VeniVidiVici (Play the 'Knockout Game' with someone owning a 9mm and you get what you deserve)
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

“***His investigators are confirming whether or not the customer has a valid concealed carry permit.***

Would they feel better if the gunman had shot everyone in the store?”

If he didn’t they will not do much. The prosecutor knows that he could never get a conviction.

If this was New York and were the shooter I would have left before the police arrived


41 posted on 01/16/2014 8:08:21 PM PST by Fai Mao (Genius at Large)
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To: duffee

“Don’t go anywhere at gunpoint.”
Most important of all: DON’T MESS WITH TEXAS! ;)


42 posted on 01/16/2014 8:14:56 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: chaosagent

“Wasn’t in Texas.

Dallas Co, Alabama”

Well, don’t mess with Alabama, either!!!;)


43 posted on 01/16/2014 8:22:24 PM PST by Frank_2001
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To: backwoods-engineer
One shot only. Well done.

Very dangerous facing someone armed.
Anything worth shooting is worth shooting twice.

44 posted on 01/16/2014 8:31:14 PM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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To: ThunderSleeps

Center mass first, because it tends to freeze the target long enough to make an aimed shot to the head. It works even with a .22lr, so carry and practice, whatever you choose to carry. (The Ruger SR22 is a very nice .22lr for carry; magazine followers changed out can give 14 rounds in the magazine and one in the chamber for double action first round.)


45 posted on 01/16/2014 8:42:48 PM PST by MHGinTN (Being deceived can be cured.)
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To: ConradofMontferrat

same guy who said ‘good fences make good neighbors’.


46 posted on 01/16/2014 11:13:02 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Lazarus Long was a popular character in many Heinlein novels.


47 posted on 01/17/2014 2:35:27 AM PST by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Heinlein's earlier works were rock solid. It wasn't until the latter days of his life that (notably with the "Lazarus Long" series of novels, he "ran off the rails" into stuff like pedophilia and incest...
48 posted on 01/17/2014 2:25:43 PM PST by TXnMA ("Allah": Satan's current alias... "Barack": Allah's current ally...)
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To: TXnMA

I know what you mean, I’ve read many of his novels including the Lazarus Long series.


49 posted on 01/17/2014 2:27:34 PM PST by Blood of Tyrants (The War on Drugs has been used as an excuse to steal your rights. Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: tioga

He was a white guy from a respected Dallas County family. I’ve heard he had mental health issues. It’s been quite a shock to people in Selma and Dallas Co.


50 posted on 01/18/2014 12:34:22 PM PST by JGT
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