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Five reasons for China and US to go to war: New Strait Times
Want China Times / New Straits Times ^ | January 14, 2014 | Staff

Posted on 01/16/2014 9:58:37 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

There remain five major reasons for the United States to go to war with China, according to Evan N Resnick in a Jan. 13 article written for the New Strait Timesan English language newspaper based in Malaysia.

Resnick led by saying that China's economic ascent since the start of Deng Xiaoping's economic reforms in 1978 is a major concern for the US. He said that China, currently the world's second-largest economy, is about to surpass the United States in its GDP on the basis of purchasing power parity within the next decade. In addition, China has more money to modernize its People's Liberation Army.

Resnick said that China's military budget rose at an average annual rate of 10.3% between 2001 and 2011. By 2012, the country's military budget exceeded US$100 billion for the first time. As a rising great power, Resnick argued that China will seek to maximize its security by expanding its influence and control in neighboring regions. He stressed that China's adoption of expansive sovereignty claims and its increasingly brazen efforts to bully its local rivals should be understood, he says, in this context.

Second, Resnick stated that President Barack Obama's Asia Pivot or rebalancing strategy could eventually lead to rising tensions and a potential war between China and the United States in East Asia. "The White House has not only ramped up military deployments to Australia, South Korea, the Philippines and Singapore," said Resnick, "but also sought enhanced defence relations with a host of regional partners, including India, New Zealand, Indonesia, Malaysia, Vietnam, Cambodia and even Myanmar."

Thirdly, US security commitments to its regional allies in Asia have encouraged those allies to harden their bargaining positions towards China. "Even in the absence of the rebalance, it is almost certain that China would have still exhibited considerable insecurity," said Resnick, "Rising to great power status in a region that is not only militarily dominated by the US, but is also replete with US allies and strategic partners."

Rensnick said that the fourth reason is that most nations in Asia-Pacific rely on the military protection of the United States while relying on China for economic development. "The various diplomatic and territorial quarrels roiling East Asia are of much greater salience and concern to China than to the US, as their outcomes more profoundly affect the national security of the much closer China than the more distant US," said Resnick.

Lastly, Resnick blamed both Beijing and Washington for not establishing a set of rules that can moderate their geopolitical competition. To avoid a third world war, Resnick said that decision makers in Beijing must realize that the regional balance of military power remains strongly tilted against China. They must understand that China will suffer disproportionately from any war that it starts against the United States or other regional powers.

Resnick also suggested US leaders to accept China's position as a growing power in the region. "At the same time, US decision makers must accept that China's growing power and acute insecurities necessitate a more circumspect and less heavy-handed US approach to the region that reflects a more refined conception of America's vital interests there," he said, adding that what China and the United States need is mutual understanding to maintain regional security.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government
KEYWORDS: china; military; pacific; pla
Vietnam is our ally?
1 posted on 01/16/2014 9:58:37 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yep. Why not? The Vietnamese are a very pragmatic people.

If we go to war with China, does that mean we get to repudiate the debt?


2 posted on 01/16/2014 10:05:53 PM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We do NOT have the resolve necessary to fight war with China.


3 posted on 01/16/2014 10:08:04 PM PST by demshateGod (The fool hath said in his heart, There is no God.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah; they’re our “ally” just like Red China.


4 posted on 01/16/2014 10:08:37 PM PST by Olog-hai
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Right now US is de-facto ally of Red China. All the Chinese growth since 1970s was and still possibly only due to a free trade policies of US government. The problem is that both government and millions of people in US are addicted to these policies so much and you can’t do a thing to fix it without a huge blow on American lifestyle.
For that reason Vietnam, India, Japan and Russia - all the Chinese adversaries are not allies.


5 posted on 01/16/2014 10:13:31 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: null and void

Capital idea!

I say we celebrate diversity and throw all women combat units and our finest gay soldiers.


6 posted on 01/16/2014 10:14:49 PM PST by Antihero101607
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Basically China wants the US Navy gone from the East and South China Seas. They want us no closer than Saipan or maybe Midway.

I cannot understand why Japan even for one microsecond listens to Okinawan complaints about noise at the bases.


7 posted on 01/16/2014 10:17:08 PM PST by gaijin
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Taiwan has TWO combat-ready sub’s and her army is staffed to 30% strength.

This is suicidal and I am unsure if they take their own security seriously.


8 posted on 01/16/2014 10:19:58 PM PST by gaijin
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To: gaijin

Taiwan’s largest trading partner is China too, I think


9 posted on 01/16/2014 10:21:24 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
(1) He said that China, currently the world's second-largest economy, is about to surpass the United States in its GDP on the basis of purchasing power parity within the next decade.

Why do they need a war if they can just buy whatever they need? This reason is not a reason at all. Rich people don't wage a war against poor people; they may control them, but wars are out of style. Mr. Resnick is still waging the last war.

(2) President Barack Obama's Asia Pivot or rebalancing strategy could eventually lead to rising tensions and a potential war between China and the United States in East Asia

It cannot, for obvious reasons: Obama doesn't have the resolve to go to war with China. Or with Albania, to that matter.

(3) US security commitments to its regional allies in Asia have encouraged those allies to harden their bargaining positions towards China

The USA still has allies there? Amazing. But do not worry, Obama will quickly send the most capable head of the State Department to fix this little problem. Meanwhile those "allies," like Pakistan, are playing their own game with everyone, the USA included. India just got a diplomatic slap in the face. Japan has its hands full with Fukushima; South Korea is being barked at by North. Nobody else matters.

(4) the fourth reason is that most nations in Asia-Pacific rely on the military protection of the United States while relying on China for economic development

Everyone understands that the USA will not go to war for an ally like Taiwan. The risk is immense. They better be friends with China and India. There is no alternative.

(5) To avoid a third world war, Resnick said that decision makers in Beijing must realize that the regional balance of military power remains strongly tilted against China. They must understand that China will suffer disproportionately from any war that it starts against the United States or other regional powers.

What in the world prompts Mr. Resnick to think that China is more vulnerable than the USA? 50% of immense Chinese population is entirely immune from any war, and may not even know that one occurred. They live in poverty, have no iPhones, and no electric power. On the other hand, an attack against the USA is likely to collapse all this carefully balanced cardhouse that we know as the US society.

China may not have as many nuclear weapons as the USA or Russia. But that hardly matters. Russia won't interfere, and the USA would be ill advised to throw stones from the inside of our glass house. China only needs to negotiate the balance of power with India, and India does the same with Pakistan. Those are the only players in the arena who are active and capable (in other words, have nukes.) And it just happens that not all of them are fond of US policies. They are extremely likely to sell the USA down the river if that buys them an advantage. In general, regional power blocs have an advantage over some remote superpower who may or may not decide to get involved in a regional affair. This is doubly so if that superpower is ruled by temporary presidents who are largely incompetent. Triply so if that superpower is a paper tiger.

10 posted on 01/16/2014 10:36:13 PM PST by Greysard
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To: Antihero101607

All women? Can we just make it the militant feminists?


11 posted on 01/16/2014 10:38:03 PM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Pacific pivot.

I am thinking this is designed to happen.


12 posted on 01/16/2014 10:42:07 PM PST by Jet Jaguar
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Well come on look at that big strong Yen
Uncle Sam needs your help again!
Got himself in a terrible jam
Spent all the money on Unicorm ham!


13 posted on 01/16/2014 10:57:20 PM PST by mrsmith (Dumb sluts: Lifeblood of the Media, Backbone of the Democrat Party!)
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To: Jet Jaguar

I believe China needs a war to keep her peasant population in line. They still remember Mao and the ideas of Communism. Their shouldn’t be uber rich in such a state. China will fracture (as it always does) into warring provinces inless there is something to unify them—like a war against a hated enemy—like the USA or Japan. They have built and are building a Blue Water Navy and they will use it. With Obama in charge—they can do what they want—he is so focused on the Domestic issues he couldn’t care less about Asia. He will not oppose them—save for token responces. they will act withing the next 18 months—and lots of folks are going to die! I hope I am wrong! tell me I have read the tea leaves wrong!


14 posted on 01/17/2014 12:45:10 AM PST by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Vietnam is our ally?

The Vietnamese absolutely HATE the Chinese going back a very, very long time.
15 posted on 01/17/2014 1:33:44 AM PST by 98ZJ USMC
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Oh, for God’s sake. There is not going to be a war because both countries are armed with nukes and are tied economically. Case closed.


16 posted on 01/17/2014 1:35:50 AM PST by Corporate Democrat
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; All

Scary is that in a war with Communist China....we will still have Free Trade Communists supporting Free Trade with Communist China.

Anyone still supporting Free Trade with Communist China is a treasonous idiot. Keep subsidizing the enemy...

There is not a single thing Communist China produces that the US cannot produce.


17 posted on 01/17/2014 1:50:35 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Amnesty And Not Ending ObamaCare Will Kill GOP In 2014)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; null and void
yes, Vietnam is the US' ally.

They have no long-term beef with the USA

On the contrary, they have a 2000+ year hatred with the Chinese

18 posted on 01/17/2014 2:59:37 AM PST by Cronos (Obama’s dislike of Assad is not based on Assad’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: GeronL; gaijin

I think Taiwanese are looking to reunite iwth the mainland. Providing US cover to this is senseless.


19 posted on 01/17/2014 3:37:01 AM PST by Cronos (Obama’s dislike of Assad is not based on Assad’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Cronos

For what major damage odumbo and his ilk have done to our military, it would be wise for the U.S. to stay out of ANY war.

There are other ways to avoid such conflicts and one of the ways is to stop purchasing Chinese made products. (Guess that would not be too good for Walmart).

Another thing we could do is stop selling any/all of our scrap iron to them, re-cycled steel makes great ship, buildings and weapons.


20 posted on 01/17/2014 3:39:00 AM PST by DaveA37
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To: 2ndDivisionVet


21 posted on 01/17/2014 4:20:16 AM PST by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Caipirabob

The one thing you NEVER see are many pictures of Obama with Putin. This is because Obama fears Putin.


22 posted on 01/17/2014 7:54:00 AM PST by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: SeminoleCounty

Except for rare earth metals


23 posted on 01/17/2014 11:23:05 AM PST by newbie 10-21-00
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

!


24 posted on 01/17/2014 11:27:44 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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