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Surgeon general urges new resolve to end smoking
Associated Press ^ | Jan 17, 2014 3:43 AM (ET) | LAURAN NEERGAARD

Posted on 01/17/2014 7:10:52 AM PST by DJ MacWoW

It's no secret that smoking causes lung cancer. But what about diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis, erectile dysfunction? Fifty years into the war on smoking, scientists still are adding diseases to the long list of cigarettes' harms - even as the government struggles to get more people to kick the habit.

A new report from the U.S. Surgeon General's office says the nation is at a crossroads, celebrating decades of progress against the chief preventable killer but not yet poised to finish the job.

(Excerpt) Read more at apnews.myway.com ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: antitobaccoscam; cigarettes; followthemoney; nannystate; scam; smoking; smokingiscool
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First, think of all the tax money they'll lose.

Second, isn't pot smoked? And it's now legal in some places. Yeah, they care about "health".

Third, government is having a cow because some people still exercise freedom. Bad! Nasty! /s

1 posted on 01/17/2014 7:10:52 AM PST by DJ MacWoW
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To: DJ MacWoW
Just say anybody who smokes (or owns guns or is a homophobe or is against contraception/abortion or any other PC thing) has to pay for Obamacare but can't claim any benefits.

It's what they want anyway.

2 posted on 01/17/2014 7:13:34 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: DJ MacWoW

So if it’s so awful then ban it outright...but you won’t because the government relies on the taxes to fund all their liberal social programs...


3 posted on 01/17/2014 7:13:53 AM PST by apillar
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To: DJ MacWoW

What about second-hand pot smoke?


4 posted on 01/17/2014 7:14:44 AM PST by Slyfox (We want our pre-existing HEALTH INSURANCE back!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

They want the US to be a socialist “paradise”.


5 posted on 01/17/2014 7:15:16 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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6 posted on 01/17/2014 7:16:16 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Start with the little islamist.


7 posted on 01/17/2014 7:16:51 AM PST by onedoug
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To: DJ MacWoW

Smokers urge new resolve to end Nanny General


8 posted on 01/17/2014 7:17:21 AM PST by facedown (Armed in the Heartland)
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To: Slyfox

“What about second-hand pot smoke?”

Just enjoy the fact you get the benefit with no cost to you. lol


9 posted on 01/17/2014 7:17:40 AM PST by DonaldC (A nation cannot stand in the absence of religious principle.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Government is more dangerous than smoking could ever be.


10 posted on 01/17/2014 7:18:19 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: DJ MacWoW

A more duplicitous, nefarious group of government bureaucrats under this President has never existed.

Words, they use them indiscriminately, even to their own apparatus’ detriment. They want to eradicate smoking because that’s a touch point for their rabid NAZI control freaks. They ignore the tax implications, the tobacco settlements and all that - money, mucho mucho money in taxes.

They won’t even think about it until they start to wonder why tax revenues are down. Mental midgets in charge of the playground.

Their recovery from this stupidity (much like the ad hoc retrenchments in ObamaCare’s daily dispensations) will be to tax the ever lovin’ sh!t out of smoking cessation products.

Great job guys. Keep it up. Just keep it up - until we come for you.


11 posted on 01/17/2014 7:18:48 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Red in Blue PA

Yes!


12 posted on 01/17/2014 7:18:54 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW
The jewel of the report: "The tobacco industry continues to introduce and market new products that establish and maintain nicotine addiction," Friday's report says. The percentage of middle and high school students who use electronic or e-cigarettes more than doubled between 2011 and 2012.

And now the new evil, which has no second hand effects, no reputable study that indicates any elevated dangers, and painted as if the Joe Camel himself were handing them out to high schoolers.

13 posted on 01/17/2014 7:18:55 AM PST by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Yet congresscritters excoriate E-Cigs, no tar, no carbon monoxide, no ash, no soot, no formaldehyde or other tobacco additives.


14 posted on 01/17/2014 7:19:21 AM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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To: apillar

So if it’s so awful then ban it outright...but you won’t because the government relies on the taxes to fund all their liberal social programs...

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Even the e-cigs, which have electronics that produce a VAPOR, are going to be taxed as potential revenue source!


15 posted on 01/17/2014 7:19:50 AM PST by Starboard
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To: null and void

Its all about money and power, not about health.


16 posted on 01/17/2014 7:20:45 AM PST by Starboard
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To: DJ MacWoW; Madame Dufarge; Gabz

“Nearly half a million people will die from smoking-related diseases this year. “


And nearly 2.5 million will die from non-smoking related diseases.

What is their point?

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17 posted on 01/17/2014 7:22:32 AM PST by Mears
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To: kingu; null and void

Government is always on a witch hunt.


18 posted on 01/17/2014 7:22:46 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I didn’t do the research, but I think more people die from abortion than cigarette caused sickness. I know more people die from heart disease than cancer, but heart disease is exacerbated by smoking.

With the government holding the purse strings to medical care, they will find a way, you can bet your entire gun collection on it, to outlaw whatever they please. Be it too much carbohydrates, or sugars, or refined flour, tobacco, alcohol, transfats, saturated fat, gluten, dairy...all for the better good. Or to punish an industry, or reward another.


19 posted on 01/17/2014 7:23:35 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (Vote Democrat. Once you're OK with killing babies the rest is easy. <BCC><)
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To: Starboard

No kidding?


20 posted on 01/17/2014 7:25:44 AM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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To: Blue Collar Christian

It’s all about owning the masses. And government is intent on owning us.


21 posted on 01/17/2014 7:26:54 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Mears

Funny how “causes” promoted by the government always lead to more taxes or efforts to legitimize them.


22 posted on 01/17/2014 7:26:55 AM PST by Starboard
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To: DJ MacWoW

...and we bitches be der witches...


23 posted on 01/17/2014 7:27:10 AM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Outlaw “smoking” and force all nicotine addicts to use e-cigs, which can easily be regulated by FDA as a drug delivery device.


24 posted on 01/17/2014 7:28:44 AM PST by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: DonaldC

The first and only time I ever inhaled anything like that was in college when a bunch of us were driving about 40 miles away for a party. A couple of guys in the back seat lit up a couple of joints. I opened up the window as I was sitting in the front passenger seat. Everyone else thought it was cool. I was not amused. When we got to the party I decided that people who would make me feel that uncomfortable were not worth having as friends. I got a ride home with someone else and never did hang around with them again.


25 posted on 01/17/2014 7:29:22 AM PST by Slyfox (We want our pre-existing HEALTH INSURANCE back!)
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To: DJ MacWoW

You know what else is bad for citizenry health? Liberalism.

Obviously we all know that poverty and inequality affect people’s health. The surgeon general should be warning people about the affects of liberalism on their health. And THAT’S contagious!


26 posted on 01/17/2014 7:30:56 AM PST by Tenacious 1 (Liberals can afford for things to go well, to work, for folks to be happy. They'd be out of work.)
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To: null and void

Yep.


27 posted on 01/17/2014 7:31:37 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW
scientists still are adding diseases to the long list of cigarettes' harms...

Expecting to hear next that Glowbull warming causes smoking, Smoking causes Glowbull warming, Smoking causes the Polar Vortex, etc...

28 posted on 01/17/2014 7:32:33 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: C210N

They’re working it! Remember aerosol cans nearly killed the earth until they banned them.


29 posted on 01/17/2014 7:36:14 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Prohibition Amendment II?

Yeah, that’ll work.


30 posted on 01/17/2014 7:37:33 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

You won’t see a ban on them, they bring in to much taxes.

Now if they packaged MMJ the same way and sold and charged taxes that high to the ‘medical’ use demanders. They might get some where.

Heck I was told the are also turning it into an oil you can bake with!

While some states made it medical legal, it is still illegal for non patients. And since Fed Law trumps states, the medical is ILLEGAL TOO.

For the anti smoking PC crowd, under the fairness clause of the Constitution, you should build smokers you banished outside in bad weather a heated/ AC shelter, and a lunch room just for them.

I never understood why people want to give so much money in taxes to the gov’t to waste.

I watched both my parents die of lung cancer, they smoked. Had a friend who died of it too, she nor her husband smoked a day in their lives. So who is right?

Next are you going to make me have stomach reduction surgery because you the gov’t consider me obese at 118 for a 5’ woman? One size does NOT fit all, I have large muscle mass. Muscle is heavier than fat. I wear a size 6 in jeans and still have to put tucks in the waist band, as 5’s are hip hugger rags the yuppies wear, and a 10 in button down top.


31 posted on 01/17/2014 7:43:30 AM PST by GailA (THOSE WHO DON'T KEEP PROMISES TO THE MILITARY, WON'T KEEP THEM TO U!)
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To: apillar
No different than Prohibition....another women's issue gone awry. They kept it legal because they knew it would be reversed just like prohibition.

Smoking and drinking usually go together and the women ranted about smoking and drinking until they got their way.

32 posted on 01/17/2014 7:49:53 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: DJ MacWoW
RE :”But what about diabetes, rheumatoid arthritis, erectile dysfunction? “

?????

Sounds like the ‘scientific ’ pitch regarding global warming.

If warm weather doesn't scare people enough because they like warm temperatures then claim it will make the temperature colder.

33 posted on 01/17/2014 7:58:08 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: DonaldC

Benefits like getting fired, or prosecuted under the UCMJ and thrown out of the military?


34 posted on 01/17/2014 8:01:50 AM PST by BykrBayb (Somewhere, my flower is there. ~ Þ)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Why in the world do we even have a “Surgeon General”?


35 posted on 01/17/2014 8:09:21 AM PST by DManA
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To: sickoflibs

It’s all a scam to control the masses.


36 posted on 01/17/2014 8:11:43 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DManA

Propaganda.


37 posted on 01/17/2014 8:12:35 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Here’s an idea, rather than wasting BILLIONS of our dollars on yet another prohibition that won’t work... We instead put that money into medical research to fix that litany of health problems?

Seems to me, we’d have designer-cloned replacement lungs by now if they hadn’t gone all Health Nazi on us.


38 posted on 01/17/2014 8:17:28 AM PST by Dead Corpse (I will not comply.)
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To: bigbob

Big brother, is that you?

What’s with this “force” people to do anything crapola?


39 posted on 01/17/2014 8:26:45 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

I will never understand why pot is ok but tobacco is not.


40 posted on 01/17/2014 8:28:15 AM PST by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

What Would These A$$H*LES Do Without All That EXTORTION MONEY????????????????????????????


41 posted on 01/17/2014 8:32:12 AM PST by bandleader
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To: DJ MacWoW

My thoughts exactly. Reconciling the draconian Nazi tactics used against tobacco users with our sudden newfound fondness for recreational pot use is gonna be REEEEEEEAL interesting.


42 posted on 01/17/2014 8:34:53 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: redgolum

Politics.


43 posted on 01/17/2014 8:35:51 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: null and void

You forgot....no taxes. That is why they hate them.


44 posted on 01/17/2014 8:42:46 AM PST by sheana
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To: sheana
Yeah. The bottom line is the bottom line...
45 posted on 01/17/2014 8:54:49 AM PST by null and void (We need to shake this snowglobe up.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Just reword the warnings on the cig packs. That will solve the problem.


46 posted on 01/17/2014 9:21:32 AM PST by tips up (Living is easy with eyes closed, misunderstanding all you see.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

Second, isn’t pot smoked? And it’s now legal in some places.
Wonder if the FDA checks it of mold count and other items?.


47 posted on 01/17/2014 9:46:41 AM PST by Vaduz
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To: Dead Corpse

“Seems to me, we’d have designer-cloned replacement lungs by now if they hadn’t gone all Health Nazi on us.”

Good point. With the Trillions already spent world wide on the “War on Drugs”, they probably could have found a cure for addiction by now.

But then nobody would be getting rich from drug sales, government blank checks and seizures.


48 posted on 01/17/2014 10:08:11 AM PST by varyouga
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To: DJ MacWoW

I’d like to see the tobacco companies call the government’s
bluff.

If I were say, the President of R.J. Reynolds, I would go on
tv tomorrow and say, “we are very ashamed of producing a
product that is so deadly, so, we would like to announce
that thirty days from today’s date, we are going to stop the
production and sales of our products in the US.”

Politicians heads would be exploding all over Washington
and every state capital.

Do you think Congress would pass a law ordering them to
continue selling the products?

Mike


49 posted on 01/17/2014 10:19:07 AM PST by doublecansiter (without cartridge, load in nine times, LOAD!)
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Politicians heads would be exploding all over Washington and every state capital.

Try suggesting that the sale of tobacco be banned and you would be truly surprised at the heads that would explode, other that politicians. The anti-smoking/anti-smoker cartel members go into cardiac arrest at any such suggestion - they make just as much as the politicians and have no desire to lose any of their $$$$.

Additionally they would be the first ones screaming for a law forcing the continued sale of tobacco products. I was told just that on more than one occasion - by the same people pushing for increased taxes and bans on where the products can be used.

50 posted on 01/17/2014 11:33:27 AM PST by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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