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Asylum seekers say they were tricked by navy (Australia)
Canberra Times ^ | 1/17/2014 | Michael Bachelard

Posted on 01/17/2014 8:55:17 AM PST by RightGeek

Australia has for the first time used one of its new lifeboats to send a group of 56 asylum seekers back to Indonesia in a move that is likely to plunge the bilateral relationship to a new low.

Fairfax Media has interviewed a large group of would-be refugees from Pakistan and Bangladesh who scuttled their wooden vessel six days ago in an attempt to avoid being pushed back to Indonesia.

Instead they were picked up by an Australian Navy vessel, HMAS Stuart, and kept overnight before being transferred to a Customs and Border Protection vessel.

The men said they were tricked into thinking they were going to be taken to Christmas Island. But they were put on a small, bright orange lifeboat-style vessel close to the Indonesian shore, with only enough fuel to return there.

The Indonesian man who captained their wooden asylum boat was put at the helm of the Australian lifeboat to complete the three-hour journey.

The news came as Fairfax Media confirmed that Australia escorted another boat back on December 26, bringing to five the total number of confirmed instances of turn-backs, despite Indonesia’s long-running objections to the practice.

Pakistani asylum seeker, Fazal Qadir, 28, said he had set sail from an island off Java on January 5 bound for Christmas Island with 56 people from Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bangladesh, Iran, Iraq and Palestine on board, along with an Indonesian captain and one crew member. There was one woman with a 20-month-old toddler.

After about three or four days at sea, he said the group was spotted by an Australian aeroplane flying overhead. The boat was already leaking.

"We were very happy [when we saw them] because we thought when the boat went into the water, then they must receive us,” Mr Qadir said.

All of the people on board already knew of other vessels which had been returned to Indonesia, so were determined to be rescued rather than escorted back. One passenger took a piece of wood and prised open the hole that was already in the hull. Others rocked the boat.

When it foundered, two Australian speedboats reached them and the 12 navy personnel on board told the asylum seekers to cling to the side. The toddler was provided with a life jacket, Mr Qadir said.

About 20 minutes later, two Australian Navy vessels, numbered 153 (HMAS Stuart) and 88 (HMAS Maitland) came into view.

Mr Qadir said the group was loaded onto the Stuart and they steamed towards Christmas Island. The men were told, and believed, they would be taken there. But the ship did not dock at the island. "We were going around Christmas all the time. For two days we were in the navy ship," Mr Qadir said.

The group was photographed and interviewed by navy personnel. They gave their names and were provided with white, numbered wrist bands.

On the second day they were transferred to a Customs and Border Protection boat that they could not identify. "We could see Christmas [Island]," the men said.

For three days they remained on the Customs boat.

During this time the men were desperate to call their families to tell them they were all right.

"We wanted to call our home because our families were scared their children were dead, but the navy and Customs would not give us a phone. They said we could call when we reached Christmas Island but they lied to us."

Finally, the men say, they were tricked once more. Mr Qadir said a small orange boat with a weather canopy was tied to the back of the Customs ship. They were told to board it because it would ferry them to Christmas Island.

At the last minute, though, a Customs officer came on board, tossed the asylum seekers a four-page document in a range of languages, and returned to the large ship, which sailed away.

The document, dated December 2013, reads: "You only have enough fuel to reach land in Indonesia. You do not have enough fuel to continue your voyage to Australia.

"The master of your vessel is now responsible for your safety. You must co-operate with the master and not act in a manner that risks your safety. You are responsible for your own actions. Your vessel is not equipped for a voyage to Australia. It is not safe to continue your voyage to Australia.

"If you continue on your journey, the master and crew of your boat will face harsh penalties, which may include a jail term."

The master was the Indonesian captain who had brought them from Java. They showed the compasses, GPS system and satellite phone that were provided with the orange boat.

The men said they were dropped very close to Indonesia. It took only three hours to reach shore.

They and the captain abandoned the Australian boat and walked into the jungle. They said they walked for five hours, including crossing a flood-swollen river, to find help.

They returned to their former houses in the West Java town of Cisarua late on Wednesday night.

On Wednesday Indonesian foreign minister Marty Natalegawa described the lifeboat option as "a slippery slope".

"It's one thing to turn back the actual boats on which they have been travelling but another issue, when they are transferred onto another boat and facilitated and told to go in that direction,'' he said.

Mr Morrison declined to comment on the asylum seekers' treatment.

A statement from his office said: "For operational security reasons, the government does not confirm or otherwise comment on reports of on-water activities in relation to Operation Sovereign Borders or disclose details of any operations.''

TOPICS: Australia/New Zealand; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: wetbacks
Australian lefties all upset about "tricked" illegal alien moochers.

1 posted on 01/17/2014 8:55:17 AM PST by RightGeek
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To: RightGeek

I think it was a masterful bit of strategery. None of these people had, or have, anything of value to give Australian society. It is time we did this in our country for once.

2 posted on 01/17/2014 8:58:16 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: RightGeek

Maybe they would prefer to be left in their original boat to die?

3 posted on 01/17/2014 8:59:55 AM PST by Truth29
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To: RightGeek

The only thing missing is the future criminals grabbing their crotches under an “Indonesian” flag and yelling something about “Reconquista”.

Criminals, or more likely, future criminals. Not needed

4 posted on 01/17/2014 9:00:01 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: RightGeek
a move that is likely to plunge the bilateral relationship to a new low

"We hate you because you won't willingly accept the illegal entry of the riff-raff, scum and criminals of other nations ."

Like the USA does.

5 posted on 01/17/2014 9:00:33 AM PST by Iron Munro (Orwell: There are some ideas so absurd that only an intellectual could believe them.)
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To: RightGeek

Why shouldn’t these Pohkies and Bangladeshis want to stay in Indonesia?

It’s another muslim paradise.

6 posted on 01/17/2014 9:07:07 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: Truth29

Yeah, if they are upset with not being allowed to drown when they tried to take advantage of the situation, screw em. Next batch should be allowed to feed the fishies if that’s what they are going to threaten.

7 posted on 01/17/2014 9:08:34 AM PST by drbuzzard (All animals are created equal, but some are more equal than others.)
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To: RightGeek

So, it was a three-hour tour?

8 posted on 01/17/2014 9:28:43 AM PST by spiritplumber
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To: RightGeek

Quick. Someone call the wambulance.

9 posted on 01/17/2014 9:35:04 AM PST by Organic Panic
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To: spiritplumber

Unless they are Christians,I couldn’t see their wanting to go to Christmas Island,soon to be changed to Atheist Isle?
I watched Gilligan last night.(tee hee)

10 posted on 01/17/2014 9:35:37 AM PST by peteyd (A dog may bite you in the ass,but it will never stab you in the back.)
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To: RightGeek


They thought they had scammed the navy by sinking their own boat to force their rescue. Now they cry foul? Indonesia isn’t a repressive nation. They have no excuse to illegally enter another country.

11 posted on 01/17/2014 9:45:05 AM PST by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: peteyd

Christmas Island is an Australian Territory and where they have a wetback detention center. Also asylum seekers arriving on Christmas Island cannot automatically apply to the Australian government for refugee status. Basically they hold them there until they can get them back to their real homes.

12 posted on 01/17/2014 9:55:26 AM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: RightGeek

And needless to say, once you have a bunch of moochers locked up together they get to protesting that they deserve more goodies as well as admission to Australie -

13 posted on 01/17/2014 10:00:48 AM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: RightGeek
They returned to their former houses in the West Java town of Cisarua late on Wednesday night.

All's well that ends well!

Oh, and they're not asylum seekers, they're invaders. Let's stick to realistic descriptors.

14 posted on 01/17/2014 11:56:22 AM PST by Moltke (Sapere aude!)
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To: RightGeek

I’ve always wished I could move to Australia.....this makes me want it even more.

15 posted on 01/17/2014 12:06:43 PM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: RightGeek

The Ukrainian coast guard destroys turkish poachers

That is how they treat these people on high seas. Sink the boats and mashinegun survivors.

16 posted on 01/17/2014 12:29:07 PM PST by cunning_fish
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To: cunning_fish

Can’t see vid without signing in- no thanks.

17 posted on 01/17/2014 1:50:18 PM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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There is a handy website called “NSFW Youtube” that lets you watch videos without signing in. It works by embedding the video into a webpage, which bypasses the age restriction.

Just change the URL by adding “nsfw” before “youtube”, e.g.

18 posted on 01/18/2014 1:58:51 AM PST by fluorescence
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