Skip to comments.Pennsylvania voter ID law struck down
Posted on 01/17/2014 9:59:46 AM PST by SMGFan
Pennsylvanias voter ID law, among the nations most stringent, was struck down Friday morning by a state judge.
Commonwealth Court Judge Bernard L. McGinley ruled that the law, requiring almost all voters to present photo identification prior to voting, was an unreasonable burden on voters.
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Ridiculous. I’m going to have to get a star on my driver’s license to board a domestic flights in the next year or so. But I can vote in PA with no ID. Where is the handle? We need to flush America and let the bowl refill with fresh water.
unreasonable burden on voters”
...so is working, having to pay for their own liquor and cigarettes and following the rule of law.
Why, do they stare at your Driver's License extra long?
What garbage. The Supreme Court has already ruled it’s not an undue burden. This douche-bag judge has his 15 minutes of fame and then the USSC will squash him like the bug he is.
Gee. And I bet they can get foodstamps, free medical care, and free food and drugs without any ID also. Right?
I can’t check in a motel or hotel without an ID.
I can’t get a library card without an ID.
So, the poor “don’t fly” (ever ???) and “don’t have a car” ..... But the poor can vote 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 13 times (for democrats) ...
Then why is is OK to require a photo ID to purchase liquor, weapons, get on an airline, etc?
This is just pure bull Obamastuff.
And it will not stop until we tell the judges to shove it up their Obamaholes.
And back it up with force.
I don’t know why republicans don’t just staff poll workers with instruction to opine that the signatures of democrat voters don’t match and you need to see identification (do maybe one of every three voters where the poll worker doesn’t recognize the voter).
More lefty logic:
They could do like we have in Michigan. They must ask to see ID but you don’t have to show it. However you do leave a paper trail because if you don’t show an ID you have to sign an affidavit that you are who you say you are and that you’re voting legally.
And that’s about it. Every piece of good new or legislation we have heard in the last year has now been overturned by the courts.
Based on WHAT? The legislature decides voting laws, not the judiciary, unless there is an explicit violation of the PA constitution, such as excluding women or dwarfs.
Why? Don’t you have to get a picture id for your Driver’s License?
It’s an unreasonable burden on the voters because it’s too heavy to carry to the polling place. Right?
They should also have to show up in person and present ID to register in my opinion.
I have an idea. Maybe it would work, maybe not.
At each polling place, if a person does not have or want to show a picture ID, have a camera ready to take that person’s photograph, just like the driver’s license people do.
Once the picture is taken, have software that scans faces, like Google, and have a computer do a search for matches. It could be linked to mugshots in all states and territories to see if that person is a felon. It can also check to see if the person has a valid driver’s license in any state, just like the police do. It can also scan passport and ICE photos of legal aliens. This should not place a ‘burden’ on the voter. If they refuse, they don’t vote..............
the aristocracy class has deemed all acts by the aristocracy as legal and constitutional until someone bothers to scrape money together and go to court to fight them and maybe win.
The USSC should be pissed they are being ignored.
Think about all the things that require you to supply “positive ID”? Too numerous to count, right? No adult living in the USA can get through a calendar year without having to ID themselves at least a few times.
Now we have this judge’s ruling saying that providing ID is “onerous”. Really? I guess that means exercising voting rights is less important than all those other things that do require ID? Right? That’s in effect what they are saying.
I’m not familiar with the law that the judge struck down, but did activist PA lawmakers possibly write the law using language that they knew would provoke any judge to strike it down? Or did the judge strike down the law because the judge is possibly an activist? Or did the judge justifiably strike down the law?
Next, note that the states have amended the Constitution to protect voting rights on the basis of race, sex, tax status and age as evidenced by the 15th, 19th, 24th and 26th Amendments. In other words, there is no constitutonal right which protects voters from not having to show a valid photo ID before voting. So the states can make constitutional laws which require voters to present valid photo ID before being allowed to vote.
Again, I don’t know the basis on which the judge struck down this law. And it’s getting too close to November for such laws to be struck down.
Remember, if patriots can elect a 2/3 conservative majority to both Houses of Congress in November then Congress will have the constitutional authority to repeal Obamacare without Obama’s signature.
Why not take a picture of the voter after he votes and put that in the book along with his signature for future ID?
This is not a federal case. A state judge decided it on the basis of the state’s constitution. (Or, at least, that’s the basis he cited.)
You are waaaay too advanced for this crooked system. :-)
when are Americans going to put a stop to all this? If all of us who have a “soap box” went to DC to protest maybe we could get enough people to make an impression on voters.
also why don’t our GOP reps come up with something catchy, dramatic, important, etc - ex. Contract with America. People loved that. why don’t conservatives come up with something. I’ve been thinking but nothing comes to mind.
"You've made your ruling judge, now let's see you enforce it"
Dye their fingers like Iraq!
The system would also ‘store’ the photograph so that it can be compared to other prospective voter photographs to check if that person has already done this at other polling places. Voter fraud would be less likely if the prospective voter was likely to be arrested right on the spot...................
Good solution! Wonder why that was not thought of? [Maybe the object of the law was not to prevent voting twice but prevent voting once.}
Judge Bernard McGinley should explain what he means by it being an unreasonable burden. Is it an unreasonable burden to go to get a photo for a driver’s license or a license to carry? How about a passport photo? How about all other forms of ID?
This judge is another addle-minded liberal who wants the one side to be able to continue to cheat at the polls.
But by then we may be into the next election cycle. Thus providing more opportunity for a left-wing congress to approve more left-wing judges - who then interpret more laws with a left-wing bent, creating a socio-political climate that is more and more hostile to free-thinking people.
We are fast approaching (if not already there) a state of electoral critical mass...
Good point. He should be disbarred for violating SCOTUS’ RECENT ruling.
Also, it’s an “unreasonable burden” for voters to vote knowing that a DemonRAT voter has nullified their vote by voting multiple times.
Precisely. I am 60 years old. I look much younger but not under 21. I have to show my driver’s license buy alcohol in ID everybody states. Here in Alabama I have to show it to vote or show a utility bill proving my address and proper name of the registered voter that is me. I know from several of my black republican friends that live in predominately black precincts, ID is often a wink and a nod between the voter and the roll checkers. Alabama has been purging a lot of dead voters off the rolls since republicans took the legislature in 2010 after 130 years of democrat majority.
It’s not about “Liberal Logic”, it’s about criminal intent by liberals.
So the judiciary has decreed, so let it be done!
Why do we give these political hacks any more credence than the hacks in the executive and legislature? Because they wear black muumuus?
It wasn’t that stringent. In 2012 it was put on hold right after it started and we didn’t even have to show ID.
I live in PA. The law was passed in March 2012.
But then it was blocked by judges in October 2012 from being used in the presidential election.
It was ruled in 2012 they could ask you for an ID but you could vote without one and wouldn’t have to use a provisional ballot.
Apparently now this judge wants to block it on a permanent basis?
It’s doubly frustrating considering I firmly believe PA was one of many states stolen from Romney in 2012.
I always feel you gotta get close first to win by cheatin’
And Caliph Baraq won Penn in 2012 by 5.5 points, so I’m not so sure on that one.
PA is supposed to be a “swing state” but the last time we went red in a presidential election was 1988.
Apparently the fraudsters are intent on making sure 1988 is the last time that ever happens!!!
The level of fraud in 2012 was unbelievable - 5 percent is well within the margin of cheating now. It’s no longer about creating extra votes for the left - they now flip our votes with rigged machines! It’s the new normal now and Romney who spend loads of money here and expected to win PA never had the balls to challenge the fraud.
Republican poll worker on election day even told me that Romney’s internals had him winning the state.
So with a Republican Governor and Republican Secretary of State, there is more than 5% illegal votes?
We may as well all give up and stop wasting our time...
I remember how I broke down crying and shaking when they asked me for photo id to cash a check. I ran out and never went back. It still haunts me today. The nightmares...
All it would take is for 3% of the Romney votes to be flipped by rigged machines to Obama.
Until they get rid of electronic voting machines and we start winning presidential elections I’ll never trust the system again.
Obama was our worst president in history even in his first term and would’ve lost by a landslide just like Carter if the election was on the up and up.
Patriots in Pennsylvania need to start a movement to impeach the SoS (assuming state law allows for it). That is totally depressing news.
in Washington state here, you have to show your drivers id to turn in scrap metal....I had a circuit board and a few other little things and it amounted to just over $5....yet I had to give them my license, and my car type and car license number....yet people can just come up and vote mulititude times...
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I like that idea.
Might not cut fraud on the first year, but should then work for future elections.
Hell, I won’t believe any results from states that use electronic machines and there are a lot of them now.
PA used to use lever machines until 2006. Not only were they less susceptible to fraud but they were more fun.
With electronic machines you just push a couple buttons and you’re done without even any paper trail left behind or any way to know someone isn’t tampering with the results after your gone.
What’s needed of course is paper ballots because those are the most fraud-proof. So the country is going in the wrong direction.
Just compare how the US does elections to most other countries. Many others would laugh at our procedures - electronic machines, no ID needed, lots of absentee early balloting, no security guards.