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America’s Incest Obsession: “Flowers in the Attic” Is Back, as Are the Memories
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Posted on 01/17/2014 12:36:26 PM PST by SoFloFreeper

Ahead of the new Lifetime movie adaptation of V.C. Andrews 1979 cult classic, we explore why incest plotlines are so enduring in popular culture

Lifetime’s Flowers in the Attic, the movie adaptation of V.C. Andrews’ sordid and soapy tale of family dysfunction, will air tomorrow night, and for millions of American women in their 30s and 40s, it’s sure to be mandatory viewing....

A survey of incest plotlines in popular culture over the past few years alone includes Game of Thrones (sister and brother, Cersei and Jaime); Boardwalk Empire (mother and son, Gillian and Jimmy); Dexter (adopted sister and brother, Deb and Dexter); Bored to Death (half-sister and brother, Jonathan and Rose); Bates Motel (mother and son, Norma and Norman); and Top of the Lake (half-sister and brother, Robin and Johnno, though was only a scare)—not to mention, Brothers and Sisters, Supernatural, Nip/Tuck, Lost, Veronica Mars, Californication, Six Feet Under and the upcoming mini-series The Spoils of Babylon, which stars Toby Maguire and Kristen Wiig as romantically involved adopted siblings.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: incest; perversion; sexuality; sick
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Sodomy is celebrated, pedophilia winked at, now incest giggled about.....Judgement is no doubt near.
1 posted on 01/17/2014 12:36:26 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Oedipus and Jocasta, Siegmund and Sieglinde ...

But seriously, I’ve never seen any of the programs mentioned, although one couldn’t be literate in my generation without being aware that “Flowers in the Attic” was a huge bestseller.


2 posted on 01/17/2014 12:40:21 PM PST by Tax-chick (Tell the mad chameleon he's not welcome anymore.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Obsession with depravity... we are so swirling the drain.


3 posted on 01/17/2014 12:43:31 PM PST by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Good fn grief!! This madness MUST stop.


4 posted on 01/17/2014 12:45:50 PM PST by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11))
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To: SoFloFreeper
Incest has been an important part of Europe's governing institutions for hundreds of years.



That would explain lots of things...
5 posted on 01/17/2014 12:46:09 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: SoFloFreeper

Well it looks like incest is going to be the liberals next sexual sin to normalize now that they are done with homosexuality, funny, I though they would try for pedophilia or bestiality first. But maybe they think they stand a better chance with incest, after all they can use the exact same argument they used with homosexuals (IE Two consenting adults, opposition based on old outdated moral customs, nobody harmed)


6 posted on 01/17/2014 12:46:38 PM PST by apillar
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To: SoFloFreeper

I heard on the radio yesterday that a judge overturned an incest conviction of and uncle who sodomized his nephew on the grounds that the incest statute prohibited familial procreation and procreation cannot result from sodomy.


7 posted on 01/17/2014 12:49:13 PM PST by AU72
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To: apillar

Im willing to pay ten Billion Dollars to the first person... who can show me evidence of the INCEST GENE!


8 posted on 01/17/2014 12:49:27 PM PST by MeshugeMikey (This Message NOT Approved By The N.S.A.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

AAAAARRRRGGGGGGHHHHH!

I never read “Flowers in the Attic” but I feel like I’ve seen about a million people reading it. I had no idea it was about incest!

And what was incestuous about “Brothers & Sisters”- I watched that show a few times and I thought it was pretty unshocking, if soapy. Are there 2 shows with this name?


9 posted on 01/17/2014 12:51:09 PM PST by jocon307
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To: SoFloFreeper

The only people obsessed with incest are Hollywood and the major book publishers. Who controls them? Look up their names and backgrounds. They are not Christian and I wouldn’t even consider them American.


10 posted on 01/17/2014 12:51:34 PM PST by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Once you open Pandora’s Box... you can’t close it


11 posted on 01/17/2014 12:52:35 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Tax-chick

I never heard of the book. I did try to watch “Game of Thrones” but after about a season, I gave it up, too much pornography overwhelmed any storyline.


12 posted on 01/17/2014 12:54:06 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Tax-chick
And don't forget the ghetto's favorite obscenity MF.
13 posted on 01/17/2014 12:54:14 PM PST by KarlInOhio (Republican amnesty supporters don't care whether their own homes are called mansions or haciendas.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto
Yeah .....

" ... incest plotlines are so enduring in popular culture ... "

Says who ?

14 posted on 01/17/2014 12:56:27 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I’ve never watched any of those shows.


15 posted on 01/17/2014 12:56:47 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: VanDeKoik

Do you know who these poeple are? If so PLEASE ID them?


16 posted on 01/17/2014 12:58:51 PM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Ok, in Supernatural, a comment was made about incest fan fiction involving the 2 brothers. The reaction of the brothers was “Ewww,” most of the incest subtext is invented by the people doing fan fiction. In Veronica Mars, the plotline was “why did Duncan dump Veronica?” And the reason was because Duncan’s dad had an affair with Veronica’s mom for years and Duncan’s mom told him Veronica was his half sister. Veronica only got with Duncan after a DNA test proved no relation.
Since the author is so totally wrong in this case, I really can’t take the rest of the article seriously.


17 posted on 01/17/2014 12:59:10 PM PST by chae (I was anti-Obama before it was cool)
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To: SoFloFreeper
How did you get to a site that had this report that got your attention that induced you to post it ?

I mean ... I occasion a ... um .... sort of ... ahhhhh .... you know .... a ummmm .... sex site ... but I'm not moved to post anything.

18 posted on 01/17/2014 1:02:46 PM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: US Navy Vet

Queen Victoria and her kids and grandkids, by her husband, and first cousin, Prince Albert.


19 posted on 01/17/2014 1:02:49 PM PST by VanDeKoik
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To: Tax-chick
I never heard of it.

I suppose because I was in Makhachkala at the time.

Just kidding Comrade!

20 posted on 01/17/2014 1:03:38 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o
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To: SoFloFreeper
This is the product of an incestuous relationship!

A Midget Imbecile

21 posted on 01/17/2014 1:10:14 PM PST by TexasCajun
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To: apillar
No, No, No. Polygamy, polyandry, followed by incest and of course Pedophilia cause that 12 year old was asking for it.
22 posted on 01/17/2014 1:10:41 PM PST by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: VanDeKoik

Kaiser (V)Wilhelm of Germany is there as is his First Cousin (T)Czar Nicholas of Russia WHAT A ENTIRE “FAMILY” OF FREAKS!


23 posted on 01/17/2014 1:15:57 PM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: VanDeKoik

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_Windsor


24 posted on 01/17/2014 1:17:28 PM PST by US Navy Vet (Go Packers! Go Rockies! Go Boston Bruins! See, I'm "Diverse"!)
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To: Tax-chick

I read them when I was 13. Mom had no idea what I was so facinated with. Lol.


25 posted on 01/17/2014 1:19:54 PM PST by Raebie
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To: Tax-chick

TOM LEHRER

Oedipus Rex Lyrics

(Introduction, only on live album „An Evening Wasted With Tom Lehrer“, spoken:)
And now, may I have the next slide please?
...carried away there.
It seems that most of the songs that you hear these days
on the radio played by the disk jockeys, apart from rock
and roll and other children’s records, tend to be motion
picture title songs. Apparently producers feel that we
will not attend their movies unless we have the titles
well drilled into our heads in advance. Of course, we
don’t go anyway, but at least this way they make back on
the song some of what they’ve lost on the picture. But,
with the rise of the motion picture title song we have
such hits of the past few years as „The Ten Commandments Mambo“,
„Brothers Karamazov Cha-Cha“, „Incredible Shrinking Man I Love You“
...I’m sure you’re all familiar with these.
But, a few years ago, a motion picture version appeared
of Sophocles’ immortal tragedy „Oedipus Rex“. This picture
played only in the so-called art theaters, and it was not
a financial success. And I maintain that the reason it was
not a financial success... you’re way ahead of me... was
that it did not have a title tune which the people could
hum, and which would make them actually eager to attend
this particular flick. So, I’ve attempted to supply this,
and here then is the prospective title song from „Oedipus Rex“:

From the Bible to the popular song
There’s one theme that we find right along
Of all ideals they hail as good
The most sublime is motherhood

There was a man though, who it seems
Once carried this ideal to extremes
He loved his mother and she loved him
And yet his story is rather grim

There once lived a man named Oedipus Rex
You may have heard about his odd complex
His name appears in Freud’s index
‘Cause he loved his mother

His rivals used to say quite a bit
That as a monarch he was most unfit
But still in all they had to admit
That he loved his mother

Yes, he loved his mother like no other
His daughter was his sister and his son was his brother
One thing on which you can depend is,
He sure knew who a boy’s best friend is

When he found what he had done
He tore his eyes out, one by one
A tragic end to a loyal son
Who loved his mother

So be sweet and kind to mother
Now and then have a chat
Buy her candy or some flowers
Or a brand new hat
But maybe you had better let it go at that

Or you may find yourself with a quite complex complex
And you may end up like Oedipus
I’d rather marry a duck-billed platypus
Than end up like old Oedipus Rex


26 posted on 01/17/2014 1:23:03 PM PST by NorthMountain
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To: apillar

In point of fact, after the French Revolution, the Frogs threw out most of the laws, including incest laws. It was just a few years ago that France re-criminalized incest.

Sometimes “Feelin’ Froggy’ can result the Frogs enacting a good law.


27 posted on 01/17/2014 1:29:28 PM PST by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

As is documented in the article below, incest used to be practiced among some royal families for purely political reasons (to the extent that survival is political), since losing power to outsiders could mean the root and branch extermination of the royal line:


The Risks and Rewards of Royal Incest
http://ngm.nationalgeographic.com/print/2010/09/tut-dna/dobbs-text


28 posted on 01/17/2014 1:29:38 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Sodomy is celebrated, pedophilia winked at, now incest giggled about.....Judgement is no doubt near.

Sorry, but Judgment is already here. If you will see Romans 1:18 and verses following, you will see that the appearance of sodomy, hatred, and so forth, are evidences of God's Judgment.
29 posted on 01/17/2014 1:30:36 PM PST by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: righttackle44

Yes, you are correct. I believe that; my point, I guess, is that it is not yet complete.


30 posted on 01/17/2014 1:36:02 PM PST by SoFloFreeper
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To: US Navy Vet

Really? Wow


31 posted on 01/17/2014 1:36:43 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: VanDeKoik


Yes. That would explain a lot of things.
32 posted on 01/17/2014 1:38:48 PM PST by Old Yeller
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To: Old Yeller

Who was the one they put in a mental hospital and then did a horribly-botched lobotomy on? (not like there could be a good one).


33 posted on 01/17/2014 1:41:36 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I don’t think it’s so much that incest plotlines are popular - it’s that scriptwriters run out of things to talk about, which is why gay plotlines have been such godsends, now that the ick factor is apparently no longer an issue among younger viewers. If polygamy and incest lose their taboo status, expect to see more of those plotlines develop. “Guess who’s coming to dinner” was a big deal for its time, and scriptwriters probably loved that, because it opened up another possibility, once miscegenation began to lose its taboo status. Heck, if space aliens start showing up in large numbers and getting down and dirty with humans, expect Mork and Mindy story lines to become the next big thing.


34 posted on 01/17/2014 1:44:06 PM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: Old Yeller

I remember a picture of a class of kids all photoshopped to look like Obama, but I can’t find it by Googling right now


35 posted on 01/17/2014 1:44:14 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: F15Eagle

Rosemary


36 posted on 01/17/2014 1:44:40 PM PST by Gefn (RIP Holly, April 1999-December 31, 2013 the best cat ever)
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To: SoFloFreeper

I don’t think incest is giggled about, it’s a quick way of setting the characters as off. Notice in most of their examples at least one and sometimes both characters are sociopaths or serial killers, not exactly a ringing endorsement for keeping it in the family.


37 posted on 01/17/2014 1:46:57 PM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: knarf

There’s a miniseries coming out based on a 35 year old series of best sellers. Not to mention the long series of stories featuring incest going all the way back to Greek myth. That would seem to have endured.


38 posted on 01/17/2014 1:50:09 PM PST by discostu (I don't meme well.)
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To: discostu

“... it’s a quick way of setting the characters as off”.

I agree. I remember reading, “The Fall of the House of Usher” (Edgar Allan Poe) and there was incest themes. By themes.. I mean it was suggested. This was definitely a way to set the characters off as not normal.


39 posted on 01/17/2014 1:53:25 PM PST by momtothree
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To: jocon307

You’re talking about the series that aired on ABC, I presume? I watched it a few times. I don’t recall seeing anything regarding incest, but I swear the show’s writers never met a libtard cliche they didn’t like.


40 posted on 01/17/2014 1:59:45 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'm not anti-government, government's anti-me.)
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To: US Navy Vet; VanDeKoik

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/House_of_habsburg


41 posted on 01/17/2014 2:03:16 PM PST by ZirconEncrustedTweezers (I'm not anti-government, government's anti-me.)
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To: Tax-chick

I read it. The incest was just one facet in the whole novel. Mainly it’s about a insane mother who would do any to board up her children in a attic.


42 posted on 01/17/2014 2:08:17 PM PST by windcliff
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To: SoFloFreeper

Im waiting for the gay polygamist incest remake of “Seven Brides for Seven Brothers” as “Seven Brothers Do Each Other”


43 posted on 01/17/2014 2:19:43 PM PST by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: TexasCajun

Im not sure him sticking the finger up his own a— constitutes incest


44 posted on 01/17/2014 2:22:19 PM PST by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: SoFloFreeper

What’s interesting is the elitist liberals then make fun of some states’ residents by stating their family trees don’t have any branches. Or that there are thousands of people and three last names. They push it and mock it at the same time.


45 posted on 01/17/2014 2:29:28 PM PST by IYAS9YAS (Has anyone seen my tagline? It was here yesterday. I seem to have misplaced it.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Flowers in the attic is the first set of books I ALMOST read until I wanted to tear my hair out

The first book was kinda good- but the author kept going and going into such a ridiculous story line I finally just tossed the last one I tried to read into the garbage halfway through.

I do know people who read all of them and thought it was great literature.


46 posted on 01/17/2014 2:33:27 PM PST by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period.)
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To: MeshugeMikey
Found it!

LOL; just kidding.

47 posted on 01/17/2014 2:41:21 PM PST by carriage_hill (Peace is that brief glorious moment in history, when everybody stands around reloading.)
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To: carriage_hill

Ill keep my eyes peeled for that one....


48 posted on 01/17/2014 2:45:34 PM PST by MeshugeMikey (This Message NOT Approved By The N.S.A.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I’m not sure you’re exactly my generation ...


49 posted on 01/17/2014 3:20:45 PM PST by Tax-chick (Tell the mad chameleon he's not welcome anymore.)
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To: Tax-chick

I’m from the Jurassic...


50 posted on 01/17/2014 3:23:36 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (When I grow up, I'm gonna settle down, chew honeycomb & drive a tractor, grow things in the ground.)
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