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Proving Mental Stability. Gun Control and Obamacare
Canada Free Press ^ | 1/16/2014 | Stan McHugh

Posted on 01/17/2014 12:40:18 PM PST by rktman

A couple of weeks back, when news appeared of Mr. Obama’s executive order to “expand” so called background checks to confirm the mental health of firearm purchasers, it seemed on the surface to be somewhat innocuous. Making it more difficult for a “mentally unstable” person to obtain a firearm does, on the surface, sound reasonable, does it not? It does until one considers two critically important factors.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: banglist; control; gun; guncontrol; police; politics; rkba
First of all the mention that "...on the surface, sound reasonable, does it not?" is totally incorrect. The rest of the piece proves that out. Like I said, if you have a cold and the doc asks you if you're depressed or have any guns in the house, sneeze in his face and say depre what gu what? Sorry doc I'm here cause I have a cold nothing else. Or something. Gun owners. Guilty till proven.......... Oh, wait. They are always guilty of something. In the libs eyes, just the mere thought that one may desire to own/possess a firearm is a sign of instability. Most libs have a phobia against inanimate objects making them unstable as well.
1 posted on 01/17/2014 12:40:18 PM PST by rktman
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To: rktman
"He's crazy."
2 posted on 01/17/2014 12:41:55 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: rktman
Making it more difficult for a “mentally unstable” person to obtain a firearm does, on the surface, sound reasonable, does it not?

Good heavens, no, it does not sound reasonable at all.
3 posted on 01/17/2014 12:43:40 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: rktman
Get a prescription for a serotonin booster and you could be asked if you own a firearm.
4 posted on 01/17/2014 12:46:27 PM PST by AU72
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To: rktman

Coupled with Andy Cuomo’s statement that ‘Extreme conservatives … have no place in the state of New York,’ you can see where they are headed.


5 posted on 01/17/2014 12:47:05 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: rktman

How is it possible to prove mental stability when I live in the land of crazies???


6 posted on 01/17/2014 12:49:03 PM PST by Nifster
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Can you imagine the reaction from the press if a republican guv said what Cuomo said?


7 posted on 01/17/2014 12:51:27 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: AU72
Get a prescription for a serotonin booster and you could be asked if you own a firearm.

As my grandpa use to say, "Ask in one hand, s--t in the other, and see which one fills up the fastest."

Translation: Lie. If it is perjury, still lie. If it is a federal offense to lie...you guessed it still lie.

8 posted on 01/17/2014 12:51:34 PM PST by apillar
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Ergo; people that continue to live in ny are crazy? (Disclaimber: before anybody slams me, I know some are bound by family and employment and that there are still a lot of NY folks that are conservative but outnumbered. My dad’s family were early settlers[1700’s] in the Hudson Valley so I know not all New Yorkers are from nyc)


9 posted on 01/17/2014 12:51:37 PM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: AU72

Or not asked, just reported.


10 posted on 01/17/2014 12:51:49 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: AU72
Get a prescription for a serotonin booster and you could be asked if you own a firearm.

But don't you dare say that mass shootings are related to "ethical" psychotropic drugs.

11 posted on 01/17/2014 12:52:13 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Nifster
Algore’s scientific ‘consensus method’

The Panel says you're crazy-so you're crazy.

12 posted on 01/17/2014 12:52:33 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: rktman

...”the right of the People to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed....”

(perhaps our Founding Fathers weren’t totally dispossessed of reason, after all?)


13 posted on 01/17/2014 12:54:54 PM PST by faithhopecharity (C)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Cuomo is right. All conservatives should leave that poop hole of a state.


14 posted on 01/17/2014 12:55:36 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: raybbr

Bfl


15 posted on 01/17/2014 12:56:14 PM PST by raybbr (I weep over my sons' future in this Godforsaken country.)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

But they have to keep paying NY state taxes. It’s the law.


16 posted on 01/17/2014 12:56:49 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: Nifster
Exactly. One of the things my parents did when we were growing up was to read books at the dinner table. We all had our turn to pick the book.

My sister selected one by a young lady who had escaped Red China through Hong Kong. One passage tells of a lady in her town who woke up in a coffin, found out that she had been declared dead by the local bureaucracy, climbed out and proceeded about town to get the authorities to overturn said declaration.

Simple, you say? She was obviously alive and was walking about. But her case was passed from bureaucrat to bureaucrat for several days until finally the lady, in sheer frustration, crawled back in the coffin to be cremated alive.

17 posted on 01/17/2014 12:57:49 PM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: rktman
So with the new Colorado druggy law you go to buy a gun after legally smoking stupid weed and you are asked if you use drugs. You answer yes and no guy for you you drug addict by federal law.
18 posted on 01/17/2014 1:02:19 PM PST by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I’d get the hell outta there if it were me.


19 posted on 01/17/2014 1:02:24 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: AU72

Just say no!


20 posted on 01/17/2014 1:05:58 PM PST by Renegade
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To: rktman

If they ever manage to disarm the People, you can bet that the guns will all be in the hands of the truly insane...


21 posted on 01/17/2014 1:06:14 PM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: rktman

later


22 posted on 01/17/2014 1:06:39 PM PST by deweyfrank
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To: Renegade
Just say no!

Obama will issue an EO matching health record with firearm registry.

23 posted on 01/17/2014 1:09:14 PM PST by AU72
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
In the Soviet Union, store fronts featured address books that no one purchased because when arrested by the KGB, they'd immediately seize it, and arrest anyone listed. People learned to keep their friends and acquaintances in their heads only.
24 posted on 01/17/2014 1:10:47 PM PST by SpaceBar
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To: AU72
Get a prescription for a serotonin booster and you could be asked if you own a firearm.

You will probably be reported.

25 posted on 01/17/2014 1:13:35 PM PST by umgud (2A can't survive dem majorities)
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To: apillar
Translation: Lie. If it is perjury, still lie. If it is a federal offense to lie...you guessed it still lie.

If you have CCW and 4473's on file, they will be able to prove you are lying, convict you, and take your guns AND your freedom.

26 posted on 01/17/2014 1:14:53 PM PST by SauronOfMordor (Socialists want YOUR wealth redistributed, never THEIRS!)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Think of all the ex-spouses who will cause even MORE grief!
I’m sure there will be an anonymous tip line...


27 posted on 01/17/2014 1:18:42 PM PST by RebelTXRose
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To: mountainlion
Question e. on the 4473 form is worded like this...

e. Are you an unlawful user of, or addicted to, marijuana or any depressant, stimulant, narcotic drug, or any other controlled substance?

28 posted on 01/17/2014 1:24:00 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: rktman

No emotional (’rat) thinkers should be allowed to own firearms.


29 posted on 01/17/2014 1:24:18 PM PST by Paladin2
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To: rktman

The Stalin playbook: folks who don’t sign on to the party line are deemed insane. Congratulations, you win a one-way ticket to the gulag.


30 posted on 01/17/2014 1:25:02 PM PST by lurk
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To: SauronOfMordor
Translation: Lie. If it is perjury, still lie. If it is a federal offense to lie...you guessed it still lie. If you have CCW and 4473's on file, they will be able to prove you are lying, convict you, and take your guns AND your freedom.

How does the fact that I purchased a gun sometime in the distant past prove I currently own a gun? I could have sold it, lost it, threw it in the river etc (which I would certainly claim if questioned. As for concealed carry, Yes, I do and don't feel the need to request permission to do so by applying for a CCW...If you feel you must be honest on these forms or with government stooges out of some sense of moral obligation or fear of legal repercussions then by all means, do so, by I choose to do otherwise.

31 posted on 01/17/2014 1:25:07 PM PST by apillar
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To: lurk

Packin’ my bags. I always wanted to vacay like the “lyin’ king” and his family. WOO HOO! Is gulag one of the outer islands? LOL!


32 posted on 01/17/2014 1:33:26 PM PST by rktman (Under my plan(scheme), the price of EVERYTHING will necessarily skyrocket! Period.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Cuomo is an extreme communist. He has no place in civilized society.


33 posted on 01/17/2014 2:05:58 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: Conspiracy Guy

Actually NY is a beautiful place. The countryside is marvelous. The trouble is that we have idiots like Cuomo and those who think like him.


34 posted on 01/17/2014 2:08:10 PM PST by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: SauronOfMordor

“If you have CCW and 4473’s on file, they will be able to prove you are lying, convict you, and take your guns AND your freedom.”

Neither of those two things prove you own a gun...


35 posted on 01/17/2014 2:52:12 PM PST by babygene ( .)
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To: trebb

Gun Control in the Third Reich: Disarming the Jews and “Enemies of the State” by Stephen P. Halbrook
http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss/191-7869385-5534410?url=search-alias%3Dstripbooks&field-keywords=stephen%20halbrook


36 posted on 01/17/2014 3:00:18 PM PST by TurboZamboni (Marx smelled bad and lived with his parents .)
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To: AU72

Doesn’t matter if you lost them all in that boating accident. That Brown Clown can go fk himself ( or Larry Sinclair)


37 posted on 01/17/2014 3:09:53 PM PST by Renegade
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To: TigersEye

Obummer is! He stated that in his book!


38 posted on 01/17/2014 3:10:41 PM PST by Renegade
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To: SauronOfMordor

I think they might die in the process.


39 posted on 01/17/2014 3:12:06 PM PST by Renegade
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To: Renegade

Too bad that doesn’t preclude him from having armed security.


40 posted on 01/17/2014 3:13:02 PM PST by TigersEye (Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
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To: babygene

“If you have CCW and 4473’s on file, they will be able to prove you are lying, convict you, and take your guns AND your freedom.”

Neither of those two things prove you own a gun...
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Probably a good idea to place an advert in the local newspapers classifieds selling your guns ... keep a copy of the ad in your safe ... you don’t need to accept any offers.


41 posted on 01/17/2014 3:16:12 PM PST by Neidermeyer (I used to be disgusted , now I try to be amused.)
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To: AU72

“Get a prescription for a serotonin booster and you could be asked if you own a firearm.”

That actually might not be a bad idea given that most mass shooters were on some kind of serotonin booster like Prozac. People on them should be kept away from guns but should be given back their rights after a reasonable period once they get off them (say 3 months for detox).


42 posted on 01/17/2014 3:47:30 PM PST by trapped_in_LA
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To: Ouderkirk

I know. New York outside NYC is a beautiful place with wonderful people. I haven’t been there in years but I’m sure it is still good outside NYC.


43 posted on 01/17/2014 3:49:33 PM PST by Conspiracy Guy (Did the ancients know they were ancients? Or did they see themselves as presents?)
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To: Vigilanteman

the all powerful state


44 posted on 01/17/2014 4:41:51 PM PST by Nifster
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