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Prince Harry takes a desk job: Royal action man quits his job as an Apache helicopter pilot...
Daily Mail (UK) ^ | 17th January 2014 | Rebecca English

Posted on 01/17/2014 2:29:18 PM PST by naturalman1975

Prince Harry has quit his job as an Apache helicopter pilot to take a desk job organising ceremonial events in London.

The fourth in line to the throne, who has twice served on the frontline in Afghanistan, will take up a staff officer role in HQ London District, based from Horse Guards, helping to co-ordinate ‘significant projects and commemorative events involving the Army in London.’

He will continue to be known as Captain Wales and remains a Commissioned Officer in the Household Cavalry.

The move will allow him to take on more royal duties on behalf of his ageing grandmother, the Queen, 87, who has long signalled she wishes younger members of her family to take the strain.

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Asked about his sudden change of career, a senior source said: ‘Prince Harry wants a career in the military and it is not unusual for an officer to change his career path after this length of time. He has achieved an awful lot in the time he has been doing the job. It is not unusual for an officer of his rank to leave and take up something elsewhere.

‘The fact is that he has to gain experience in other field in order to move up the ranks and this is an opportunity for him to do so.’

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Officers who want to progress their careers will at some point need to complement their operational experience with a managerial desk job in the UK.

If Harry wants to reach the rank of major a period broadening his military skills will help him achieve his goal - and he could return to fighting on the front line at a later date.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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1 posted on 01/17/2014 2:29:18 PM PST by naturalman1975
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To: naturalman1975

I like this guy. Best of luck to him.

Hope he gets married soon. He seems to love kids and would likely make a good father.


2 posted on 01/17/2014 2:34:30 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: naturalman1975

It’s the right time for this. Neither Harry or his brother have anything left to prove militarily. They both served the interests of their country well. I’m surprised he lasted this long in that capacity of service without something really bad happening, like a kidnapping or worse.


3 posted on 01/17/2014 2:36:34 PM PST by lee martell
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To: naturalman1975

Prince Harry wasn’t at the controls of an Apache very long. The UK probably didn’t get their money’s worth out of all that expensive training — but that’s their business. Commissioned officers rotate between combat leadership & staff jobs all the time and their army isn’t much different from ours in that regard.


4 posted on 01/17/2014 2:38:31 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: naturalman1975

He and his brother seem pretty genuine. Diana would be proud.


5 posted on 01/17/2014 2:42:11 PM PST by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: Tallguy

Things are well and truly winding down in Afghanistan for the British, and part of this is they will want to give as many Apache pilots as they can their chance to serve in combat - both because it’s what they train for and want to do, and also because it’s experience you just can’t replicate anywhere else. So there will have been a lot of short rotations in recent times. Yes, in a sense it wastes money - but it also increases capability, by giving you more people who really understand what the job is about.


6 posted on 01/17/2014 2:43:36 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: goodwithagun
They are, in almost every sense, young men for both their parents, their wider family, and their country to be proud of.

Along with the thousands of others they've served alongside - I think they'd want that pointed out. They get the military attention because of who they are, but they are both happiest when they are just two men among the thousands in uniform.

7 posted on 01/17/2014 2:45:52 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

Two tours in Afghanistan and he has had enough. I don’t blame him


8 posted on 01/17/2014 2:46:08 PM PST by 2banana (My common ground with terrorists - they want to die for islam and we want to kill them)
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To: naturalman1975

Yeah, and flying skills are perishable, too. In a few months Harry won’t be allowed near an Apache without a check-ride... minimum. (They probably do that on simulators, I suppose).

Harry want’s to serve his country. Give him credit. But his CO is probably deathly afraid of what might happen every time he goes outside the wire. But they’ve weighed that against the Royals’ wishes to be seen pulling their weight. I’m sure it’s a good recruiting tool up to a point.


9 posted on 01/17/2014 2:47:21 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: Tallguy

Harry should mount a coup and claim the crown.


10 posted on 01/17/2014 2:52:20 PM PST by Jim Noble (When strong, avoid them. Attack their weaknesses. Emerge to their surprise.)
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To: naturalman1975

My nephew flew Apache Longbows, was an instructor in Germany, then did a tour in Afghanistan. When he reached the rank of Captain, they didn’t LET him fly anymore. When he found he’d have to be flying a desk with his ‘promotion’, he left that group and joined Special Forces, then did another tour in Iraq.


11 posted on 01/17/2014 2:53:58 PM PST by SuziQ
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To: SuziQ

A lot of helicopter pilots are warrant officers. I work with a guy who maintained helicopters during Vietnam and he said that back then all the attack helo’s were piloted by COMMISSIONED officers. What was your nephew’s experience? Was he flying with fellow commissioned officers, or did he have a lot of warrants around him?


12 posted on 01/17/2014 2:57:06 PM PST by Tallguy
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To: Tallguy
I’m sure it’s a good recruiting tool up to a point.

It is. And it's also part of the reason why the Royal family is generally so beloved in the UK, and among a lot of the Commonwealth. Because they are seen as doing their duty. And there is political calculation involved in this and nobody seriously pretends otherwise.

Whatever people may think of the idea of Royalty, British constitutional government relies on its existence, and none of those born into the family were asked whether they wanted to be. They are given a position of undeserved but immense privilege - and the only way that remains tolerable to a lot of people is if they are also seen to be doing their duty to their country.

His Royal Highness Prince Henry of Wales has more than delivered on that at this point. His brother hasn't done badly either, but Harry is the star in this regard. And if, as seems likely, he intends to continue to serve in the military alongside his royal duties, that's a bonus.

13 posted on 01/17/2014 2:57:42 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Tallguy

If you’re trying to insinuate that Harry was just a poseur — you’re way off base.

As for the cost — trivial compared to the value of the morale boost he’s given to the military.


14 posted on 01/17/2014 2:59:16 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: Jim Noble
Harry should mount a coup and claim the crown.

There's no way he wants that job. If it fell to him (and he has to always be aware that it could), he'd do it as his duty, but I think Harry is incredibly relieved to have his older brother and his nephew between him and that responsibility.

15 posted on 01/17/2014 2:59:48 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: goodwithagun

———Diana would be proud.——

Probably not. They have become bonefide Royals and she never measured up to that job.


16 posted on 01/17/2014 3:02:25 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: naturalman1975
Who gives a rat's about the Brit "royalty"?
Royals, per se, are descendants of the meanest families that ever existed.
17 posted on 01/17/2014 3:04:03 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: cloudmountain

It’s a religion for some. He could dress as a NAZI and have a cocaine and hooker party in Vegas and they would still see him as an angel.


18 posted on 01/17/2014 3:09:29 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: Jim Noble

Didn’t he do something like that in Las Vegas?


19 posted on 01/17/2014 3:26:59 PM PST by Patriot Babe
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To: cloudmountain
Who gives a rat's about the Brit "royalty"?
Royals, per se, are descendants of the meanest families that ever existed.

Largely true, yes. But in the modern world, because of the pressures of history, within the Commonwealth of Nations, they've found themselves with a ceremonial and symbolic role that is important to a lot of people. All nations have their symbols - and healthy nations take pride in them.

They also have an important constitutional role to play as a brake on potential tyranny by elected officials. The reserve powers of the Crown are a guarantor of hard won liberties and freedoms. It hasn't always been that way - but it is now and you don't throw that away. You cherish it, if you're lucky enough to have it.

20 posted on 01/17/2014 3:27:18 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: Tallguy

“A lot of helicopter pilots are warrant officers.”

15+ years back the Army had a recruiting program that offered zero to warrant officer/chopper pilot in so many years.

Buddy of mine almost took it but opted for the Marines instead.


21 posted on 01/17/2014 3:36:02 PM PST by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: GeronL
It’s a religion for some. He could dress as a NAZI and have a cocaine and hooker party in Vegas and they would still see him as an angel.

For some people it is like that. But consider...

Let's say Britain decided to become a Republic by 2020, using America's example as a model.

Who would be writing the British Constitution?

It'd be people like David Cameron, and Nick Clegg, and Tony Blair, and Gordon Brown...

Would you rather live in a Republic like that? Or the current British Monarchy? Personally, I'd take the Monarchy everytime.

America was lucky enough to have genius patriots drafting their Constitution. Men who had had to be dedicated enough to the idea of liberty and justice to risk death for it. Britain's would be written by men who haven't even been willing to fully protect their nations sovereignty in Europe.

A British Bill of Rights would be more likely to completely ban guns than preserve a right to bear arms. It would certainly disestablish the Church of England (not that the Church of England is exactly all that Christian anymore, anyway, but...). There would probably be a constitutional right to marry whoever or whatever you liked.

No thanks.

22 posted on 01/17/2014 3:37:04 PM PST by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975

QE2 has abdicated the crown. William could become King and use his limited powers to an extent not seen in 80 years or so.


23 posted on 01/17/2014 3:43:09 PM PST by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: naturalman1975
Let's say Britain decided to become a Republic by 2020, using America's example as a model.

America isn't even following America's model - I highly doubt Britain ever would.

No, that whole "doctrine of negative rights" thing is like light to a vampire.

Vampires are not going to write a constitution based on light.

24 posted on 01/17/2014 6:14:27 PM PST by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: bert

She measured up enough to the job of providing an heir and a spare.


25 posted on 01/17/2014 6:19:08 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: naturalman1975; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows
Even the Royals, privileged Krauts that they are, end up doing desk jobs like the rest of us! Damn! Besta luck kid, trying to keep it organized! Generations of geniuses have tied and failed.


26 posted on 01/17/2014 6:20:22 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: naturalman1975

Naturalman, happy to see you on this thread.


27 posted on 01/17/2014 6:20:33 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: Jim Noble
Harry should mount a coup and claim the crown.

He should.

And he could reclaim British manhood from the PC meterosexuals as well as be the reincarnation of his namesake, Henry V.

"From this day to the ending of the world,
But we in it shall be remembered-
We few, we happy few, we band of brothers;
For he to-day that sheds his blood with me
Shall be my brother; be he ne’er so vile,
This day shall gentle his condition;
And gentlemen in England now-a-bed
Shall think themselves accurs’d they were not here,
And hold their manhoods cheap whiles any speaks
That fought with us upon Saint Crispin’s day.


And given the state of British leadership, it would fall quicker than the haughty French nobility at the Battle of Agincourt

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28 posted on 01/17/2014 6:33:41 PM PST by RedMonqey ("Gun-free zones" equal "Target-rich environment.")
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To: Revolting cat!
You should SEE such a filing system....


29 posted on 01/17/2014 9:00:07 PM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: cloudmountain

I like the idea of having someone non-political with a one-time temporary veto power. If England ever really goes off the rails, the Queen or King can refuse to give royal assent to egregiously bad legislation.

Of course, it would provoke a major constitutional crisis and probably result in the abolition of the monarchy, but it’s there if needed. It’s the nuclear bomb of British politics and hopefully would never need to be used.


30 posted on 01/17/2014 9:17:17 PM PST by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
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To: bert
Probably not. They have become bonefide Royals and she never measured up to that job.

She certainly improved whatever they got from their goofball father.

31 posted on 01/17/2014 9:23:55 PM PST by Moonman62 (The US has become a government with a country, rather than a country with a government.)
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To: bert
Unfortunately and legally, Charles can't be "skipped" over. He will be King of England...if he outlives his mother.

Leni

32 posted on 01/17/2014 9:33:24 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: GeronL
It’s a religion for some. He could dress as a NAZI and have a cocaine and hooker party in Vegas and they would still see him as an angel.

So true. It's part of their identity, I guess.
What do WE hold so dear? Hmmmm.

33 posted on 01/18/2014 7:24:22 AM PST by cloudmountain
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To: USFRIENDINVICTORIA

“If you’re trying to insinuate that Harry was just a poseur — you’re way off base.”

Far, far from it. On the contrary, I think other considerations are limiting his ability to serve. If it were left up to his wishes I think he’d be serving without any “limitations”.


34 posted on 01/18/2014 8:36:20 AM PST by Tallguy
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To: naturalman1975

I seriously doubt that he “quit” being an Apache driver to pilot a desk. Military people get reassigned all the time, for various reasons, not always willingly.


35 posted on 01/18/2014 11:09:54 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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