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U.S. House GOP To Introduce Shortly New Immigration Plan, Including Path To Legal Status
Fox News Latino ^ | 1/17/13 | Fox News Latino

Posted on 01/17/2014 3:19:21 PM PST by jimbo123

House Republicans are working on an immigration plan that would give potentially millions of undocumented immigrants a chance to permanently live and work in the United States.

The plan, which is reportedly days away from being released to the public, will cover ideas on how the U.S. border should be protected, how immigration laws should be enforced inside the United States, the expansion of visas for certain foreign workers, and how many of the country’s estimated 11 million undocumented immigrants can embark on a path to legalize their status, according to published reports, such as one in online news publication Politico.

The path to legalization’s inclusion in the plan – which House Republican leaders discussed as recently as Wednesday -- is particularly significant given that it is one of the pivotal reasons that plans last year to pass a comprehensive immigration reform law broke down in the House of Representatives after it passed in the Senate in June.

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1 posted on 01/17/2014 3:19:21 PM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123

Get ready to melt down their phone lines.


2 posted on 01/17/2014 3:20:27 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (Who knew that one day professional wrestling would be less fake than professional journalism?)
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To: jimbo123

They don’t represent us.

We need to find people who will.


3 posted on 01/17/2014 3:22:16 PM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: jimbo123

The LAST gasp of the GOPe...

Look to the West to California to see the US in 10 to 15 years once Amnesty is passed. Boehner will use DEMOCRATS to pass this legislation to spite Tea Party/Conservative types...

And big business will get exactly what they want... Cheap labor UNTIL the are “organized” (unions) and they vote for more Democrats. Then the new Democrats will raise taxes on big business...

Unintended consequences...


4 posted on 01/17/2014 3:24:48 PM PST by bfh333 ("Hope"... "Change"... You better HOPE you have some CHANGE after the next 4 years!)
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To: jimbo123

Who in the fk are these guys?

They should tell the powers that be to go ahead and print the pictures if them with prostitutes.

They’ll vote American along with the other whores of Congress.


5 posted on 01/17/2014 3:29:33 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
If they don't represent "you", maybe it's because "you" didn't produce enough future tax payers to pay for all of the benefits you hope to collect.

Furthermore, "you", whether that means Conservative voters, Christians, or what not, did not produce enough future Conservative voters to keep Conservatives in office. As a result, those who want this are getting their candidates elected, on both sides.

I'm not saying this is right, but that's how it is.

6 posted on 01/17/2014 3:32:11 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: jimbo123

DOA


7 posted on 01/17/2014 3:33:21 PM PST by VRWC For Truth (Roberts has perverted the Constitution)
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To: VRWC For Truth

I hope you’re right.


8 posted on 01/17/2014 3:34:05 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: jimbo123

I’m a born and bred American citizen. USAF veteran (1970-1974). I’m a law-abiding man who played by the rules, worked hard, paid my taxes, etc. I want to know one thing: What law or laws can I break, that by breaking not only will I NOT be punished, but will be rewarded?


9 posted on 01/17/2014 3:34:27 PM PST by ought-six ( Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule.)
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To: jimbo123

Just read that headline folks. Read it and remember it every time you see a sycophant on FR telling you that you need to vote for lesser evils. Because lesser evils made that headline a reality.


10 posted on 01/17/2014 3:37:14 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
Many of us chose your path in 1992 and voted for Perot. The result, Clinton was elected.

What's worse, he was elected when the economy was already growing for over a year, and he was in office when the "peace dividend" from the end of the Cold War and the Tech Boom had kicked in. He had nothing to do with any of that, but he got the credit for the job growth and "balanced budget" that resulted. We have been at a disadvantage ever since.

11 posted on 01/17/2014 3:48:37 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

“If they don’t represent “you”, maybe it’s because “you” didn’t produce enough future tax payers to pay for all of the benefits you hope to collect.”

So if I understand you correctly we haven’t been using our genitals effectively?
Or are the South of the Border Trash spending too much time in the sack?
Inquiring minds want to know!


12 posted on 01/17/2014 3:49:40 PM PST by vette6387
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To: jimbo123
The border is not going to be protected!!

They will get what they want and resume making excuses about border security.

13 posted on 01/17/2014 3:51:29 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: VRWC For Truth
VRWC For Truth:" DOA "

It better be right !!

14 posted on 01/17/2014 3:53:52 PM PST by Tilted Irish Kilt (Enlightened statesmen will not always be at the helm. -- James Madison)
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To: vette6387
So if I understand you correctly we haven’t been using our genitals effectively?

If you wish. Abortions didn't help either.

Or are the South of the Border Trash spending too much time in the sack?

I guess since you call them "trash", you have already written off the Hispanic vote, even them

So how do you propose to counter their numbers twenty years from now?

Inquiring minds want to know!

Intelligent minds have already figured it out.

15 posted on 01/17/2014 3:57:42 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

I’ve produced one and hope to produce another.

The problem is we are governed by traitors, who are in it to make money for themselves. They are corrupt oligarchs.


16 posted on 01/17/2014 4:03:16 PM PST by LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

F them. I shouldn’t have to call to get them to do what’s right. They will get my message when I never vote Republican again.


17 posted on 01/17/2014 4:03:42 PM PST by Feckless (I was trained by the US << This Tagline Censored by FR >> ain't that irOnic?)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

The skill level and productivity of the average illegal and his family is going to be a drag on the federal treasury, not a gain.


18 posted on 01/17/2014 4:04:56 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity
I’ve produced one and hope to produce another.

God bless you and your family.

The problem is we are governed by traitors

The problem is the left ward swinging attitudes of the American population, who elected them. If we don't win Americans over to Conservative Christian values, expect more of the same.

19 posted on 01/17/2014 4:06:19 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: 9YearLurker

From what I’ve seem, many Mexican immigrants are very productive and hard working. That doesn’t mean I endorse amnesty for those here illegally, just pointing that out.


20 posted on 01/17/2014 4:08:03 PM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: jimbo123

They don’t want my vote.


21 posted on 01/17/2014 4:09:46 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

You only see the hardworking ones. The hard working illegal immigrants are highly visible. What you don’t see is their families sucking at the public teat or the criminal illegals in our jails.


22 posted on 01/17/2014 4:14:41 PM PST by forgotten man
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

Minimum wage earners don’t pay in squat compared to what they take out of the system, and their demographic is rife with high school dropouts, criminality and out-of-wedlock births even three generations in.


23 posted on 01/17/2014 4:14:59 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

Minimum wage earners don’t pay in squat compared to what they take out of the system, and their demographic is rife with high school dropouts, criminality and out-of-wedlock births even three generations in.


24 posted on 01/17/2014 4:15:14 PM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

“My path” isn’t some Zen bit of esoterica. It’s voting FOR what you believe in. Please explain what is ‘wrong’ with that considering it’s what the founders intended we do.

If you expect to get what you want by either voting against it or relying on the altruism of the GOP, than don’t feel shocked and please, don’t complain on internet sites when your fantasy stubbornly refuses to materialize.

Not enough people believe what you do? Afraid of losing? Here’s a radical idea. Campaign for your beliefs and bring people on board to your position.


25 posted on 01/17/2014 4:23:24 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: LowTaxesEqualsProsperity

Too late. Once amnesty is granted it is too late to take it back. By then, the illegal legals will all be voting for the commies.


26 posted on 01/17/2014 4:28:22 PM PST by dforest
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

Boy, what a dose of tough love....true, but man, that’s harsh.


27 posted on 01/17/2014 4:37:48 PM PST by tioga (Wise men still seek Him.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

“Abortions didn’t help either.”

But as I read the sorry statistics on abortion, Whites abort far fewer of their potential offspring than do the two “major” minority groups

“I guess since you call them “trash”, you have already written off the Hispanic vote,”

Not at all. Legal Hispanic people are not the problem. The citizens of Hispanic decent that I know, generally dislike their border jumping “compatriots” from Mexico and points South much as I do.

“So how do you propose to counter their numbers twenty years from now?”

I have no solution except to say that unless the “whites” begin to understand that their survival depends on reproducing themselves, they will cease to exist. The other thing that will undoubtedly happen is that there will be more inter-racial marriages/relationships. The real issue isn’t so much race as it is education. Unfortunately the government ( and I include both parties) seem to be content to promote educational policies that will breed far too many “worthless eaters” that they can control. So ultimately our survival as a country will be at risk as the “monolithic societies” like China will take over. Isn’t this multi-cultural $hit wonderful!!


28 posted on 01/17/2014 4:38:00 PM PST by vette6387
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

George Herbert Walker Bush promised he would continue the Reagan Revolution, he didn’t; The result, Clinton was elected. There would have been no Perot if GHWB had really been the third term of Reagan like he promised.


29 posted on 01/17/2014 4:58:56 PM PST by itsahoot (It is not so much that history repeats, but that human nature does not change.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

I understand your desire to melt down their phone lines, but it rarely works. Their patrons, like the Chamber of Commerce, can deliver cash in the millions of dollars and that is what gets their attention(and votes).


30 posted on 01/17/2014 5:33:11 PM PST by red river jack
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To: Norm Lenhart

lesser evil is still evil. We have to learn to nominate and elect candidates who represent all of our values.


31 posted on 01/17/2014 5:33:38 PM PST by red river jack
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To: red river jack

EXACTLY.


32 posted on 01/17/2014 5:40:41 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: Norm Lenhart
Voting for .. lesser evils made that headline a reality.

Well said, Norm. That is exactly what got us where we are today.

33 posted on 01/17/2014 6:58:20 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
From what I’ve seem, many Mexican immigrants are very productive and hard working.

What you don't see, are all the state and federal goodies those "hard working" immigrants are receiving in subsidies. They couldn't work for peanuts unless they had their hands in the American taxpayers' pockets.

34 posted on 01/17/2014 7:03:17 PM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: jimbo123

No immigration changes.

Bring back jobs to America.

Now. We can talk about immigration AFTER we have brought down American unemployment.

No immigration changes.


35 posted on 01/17/2014 7:06:03 PM PST by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: jimbo123

if so i am immigrating away from the republican party.


36 posted on 01/17/2014 7:32:10 PM PST by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

The lesser evil is still evil. Especially when they’re part of the same uniparty.

Good news for me is that it’s looking like getting my voting addiction under control will be easier than I thought.

Good news for all of us on FR is that the paid gop bloggers and their toadies will be back soon. No doubt there will be warm welcomes and ticker tape parades to greet their arrival. I can smell the ozone from my backyard.


37 posted on 01/17/2014 8:21:53 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3112353/posts

They are here already. See this thread for two examples. No ozone in sight.


38 posted on 01/17/2014 8:33:23 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

“Many of us chose your path in 1992 and voted for Perot. The result, Clinton was elected.”

So we should go with your plan which is what? Voting for more uniparty pukes with an “R” after their name? Gee, that’s a plan. But I think I like my plan more: I intend to get up bright and early on the 4th of November and go to work. I’ll spend the extra time I’ll have from skipping the polls to do some ironing. You go ahead and wait in line and vote for your favorite gop politicians.

The difference between my plan and your plan is that when all is said and done, I’ll have some nicely pressed shirts to show for it.


39 posted on 01/17/2014 8:34:05 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: RKBA Democrat
So we should go with your plan which is what?

My plan is to win Americans over to Conservative values, and support real Conservatives in the primaries. I spent plenty in 2012 trying to do just that, but once it was over, the choice was either Romney, or make it easier for Obama to win.

The difference between my plan and your plan is that when all is said and done, I’ll have some nicely pressed shirts to show for it.

The difference between my plan and your plan is that I haven’t given up.

40 posted on 01/18/2014 7:13:57 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: Windflier; 9YearLurker; forgotten man
forgotten man: You only see the hardworking ones. The hard working illegal immigrants are highly visible. What you don’t see is their families sucking at the public teat or the criminal illegals in our jails.

9YearLurker: Minimum wage earners don’t pay in squat compared to what they take out of the system, and their demographic is rife with high school dropouts, criminality and out-of-wedlock births even three generations in.

Windflier: What you don't see, are all the state and federal goodies those "hard working" immigrants are receiving in subsidies. They couldn't work for peanuts unless they had their hands in the American taxpayers' pockets.

I see Americans electing a government that uses our tax dollars to cover all of this. What is your plan for getting Americans to vote for a government that won’t use our tax dollars to pay for this?

41 posted on 01/18/2014 7:14:03 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
“My path” isn’t some Zen bit of esoterica. It’s voting FOR what you believe in. Please explain what is ‘wrong’ with that considering it’s what the founders intended we do.

So the Founding Fathers would have agreed with making it easier for Obama to win, because our next President in 2012 would have either been Obama or Romney?

If you expect to get what you want by either voting against it or relying on the altruism of the GOP, than don’t feel shocked and please, don’t complain on internet sites when your fantasy stubbornly refuses to materialize.

Please don’t go taking it upon yourself to place limits on my freedom of speech, Mr. or Ms. Constitutionalist.

Not enough people believe what you do? Afraid of losing? Here’s a radical idea. Campaign for your beliefs and bring people on board to your position.

Someone else at this site agrees with you and makes that point a lot. I can’t remember exactly who, but here are some of that Freeper’s posts.

The problem is the left ward swinging attitudes of the American population, who elected them. If we don't win Americans over to Conservative Christian values, expect more of the same.

Our Conservative values rest in everyone having the opportunity to make their own way in the world. That's what we should focus on.

And we'll keep getting RINOs or Democrats until we stop trying to take the easy way out by blaming the "GOPe", and start trying to win Americans over to Conservative values.

This is why I say we need to win Americans over to Conservative values if we're going to elect Conservatives again. If we don't try, expect more Dems and RINOs.

Maybe you and that Freeper should team up against me.;)

42 posted on 01/18/2014 7:14:09 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: vette6387
But as I read the sorry statistics on abortion, Whites abort far fewer of their potential offspring than do the two “major” minority groups

True, but getting back to the topic, the two “major” minority groups are projected to double or triple in population in the next 50 years, while the “non-Hispanic white” population will remain about the same.

Legal Hispanic people are not the problem.

Thank you for making that distinction.

Isn’t this multi-cultural $hit wonderful!!

Get used to it, because unless something changes drastically, the population will be majority “non-Hispanic white” within 50 years. We Conservatives need to work to win them over to our values.

43 posted on 01/18/2014 7:14:39 AM PST by TwelveOfTwenty (See my home page for some of my answers to the left's talking points.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

You might really want to read up on what Hamilton had to say about enemies in your camp. Take it up with his estate.

And if you wish to make yourself by complaining when you get what you vote for, be my guest.

“Campaign for your beliefs and bring people on board to your position.”

And you don’t agree? I really don’t need to team up with someone to articulate what was once standard conservative and American voting doctrine.

That you seem to have forgotten that explains a lot.


44 posted on 01/18/2014 8:27:41 AM PST by Norm Lenhart
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

“The difference between my plan and your plan is that I haven’t given up.”

LOL! For someone who has given up, I sure do spend a lot of time with politics. I’m simply not wasting more of my valuable time with the ballot box. I urge others to do the same.


45 posted on 01/18/2014 8:41:51 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty
What is your plan for getting Americans to vote for a government that won’t use our tax dollars to pay for this?

Pain. Americans have to feel a lot more pain before they do what they have to do to change this.

46 posted on 01/18/2014 9:28:59 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

“We Conservatives need to work to win them over to our values.

That is true. And in point of fact Hispanics, unlike Blacks, overall are moral, generally religious people. And they are hard-working, unlike Blacks, who by and large have become lazy welfare recipients, to some exert because of government policies. We read daily about illegal Hispanic crime here, and that is unacceptable on two levels, it’s crime, and they should not be here to perpetrate it. Can you imagine any “black community” doing what the Mexican people are doing in Michoacan? The are essentially telling their national government to Eff off, “we are going to take back our communities without you.”
Do you see the Blacks doing anything like that in Chicago? No, they stand around and piss and moan about how “whitey” isn’t “fixing” things for them. And guys like Rahm Emanuel just sit on their hands and continue to deny anyone in that city the right to protect themselves.


47 posted on 01/18/2014 9:31:40 AM PST by vette6387
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To: vette6387

illegal immigrants make up about 29% of the federal prison population from what I hear.

They are also heavy on the welfare rolls.

“”moral, religious”.. “hard working”...

Stupid propaganda that does not jibe with the real world


48 posted on 01/18/2014 9:52:48 AM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: TwelveOfTwenty

I think the ‘tea party’ should act as a shadow GOP by 2016, holding state, and then national, nominating conventions ahead of the GOP primaries and convention.

This would set them up to coalesce behind a single, conservative presidential candidate; more easily replace the usual GOP traitors; and start filing as a separate party and outright replace the GOP by 2020.

Meanwhile, we should be screaming from the rooftops to mobilize the grassroots now to stop the amnesty surrender that Boehner, Rubio, Ryan, and others plan for 2014.


49 posted on 01/18/2014 10:43:38 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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To: Windflier

Yup. Absolutely. Of course the fact that they are so pain averse is a big part of why they will get more of it.

After another 3 days of dealing with the lesser evil brigade on multiple threads, I am more convinced that their mantra should be “My cake and eat it too.”

Out of one side of their mouths they profess undying admiration for Ted Cruz and his actions on behalf of America and all of us, then out of the other they demand we elect Republicans, “No matter what”. The “No matter what” guarantees more liberals who will fight Cruz, not help him.

I swear Windy that back in the 90s, a bunch of us were caught in some time space continuum tear/flux/disturbance. We somehow maintained our awareness and ability to reason while being thrown into a parallel universe and Bizzarro Earth.

And here, You help those you admire by electing people to fight them!

To Quote Jim Trafficant...”Beam me up Scotty.”


50 posted on 01/18/2014 4:28:42 PM PST by Norm Lenhart
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