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North Carolina ultrasound abortion law ruled illegal by judge
Reuters ^ | January 17, 2014 | David Adams

Posted on 01/17/2014 10:17:13 PM PST by boatbums

A federal judge on Friday struck down a 2011 North Carolina law requiring abortion providers to perform an ultrasound and explain it to a woman before having an abortion, arguing it violated the constitutional right to free speech of doctors.

U.S. District Judge Catherine Eagles found that a state does not have "the power to compel a health care provider to speak, in his or her own voice, the state's ideological message in favor of carrying a pregnancy to term."

The law "compels a health care provider to act as the state's courier and to disseminate the state's message discouraging abortion, in the provider's own voice, in the middle of a medical procedure, and under circumstances where it would seem the message is the provider's and not the state's," she added in her 42-page ruling.

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Since when is a doctor's "free speech rights" factored into giving a woman the information necessary for her to fully consent to an abortion?

Ultrasound allows the mother to HEAR her unborn child's heartbeat as well as to see for herself that it is indeed a beating heart and that there is a human life inside her. The only reason an abortionist would not want her to know this is she just might change her mind and NOT go through with the murder of her child and the "doctor" loses out on the money. Deplorable! How can this judge consider this is in the best interest of women?

1 posted on 01/17/2014 10:17:14 PM PST by boatbums
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To: boatbums
...requiring abortion providers to perform an ultrasound and explain it to a woman before having an abortion...U.S. District Judge Catherine Eagles found that a state does not have "the power to compel a health care provider to speak, in his or her own voice, the state's ideological message in favor of carrying a pregnancy to term."

What does explaining a medical test in medical and scientific terms to a woman have to do with a state's "ideological" message?

2 posted on 01/17/2014 10:21:18 PM PST by BlessedBeGod (Democrats are Cruz'n for a Bruisin' in 2016. / Obama=Unspeakable Audacity)
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To: boatbums
RE :”A federal judge on Friday struck down a 2011 North Carolina law requiring abortion providers to perform an ultrasound and explain it to a woman before having an abortion, arguing it violated the constitutional right to free speech of doctors. “

WTF??

You can bet he never used that line to strike down liberal laws like employer mandates, or Obamacare.,

3 posted on 01/17/2014 10:21:58 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: boatbums; All
Since when is a doctor's "free speech rights" factored into giving a woman the information necessary for her to fully consent to an abortion?

Since 10th Amendment-ignoring activist justices have infiltrated the courts.

4 posted on 01/17/2014 10:23:35 PM PST by Amendment10
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To: boatbums

Funny what happens to this free speech of doctors when they want to coach someone out of sexual perversion, however!

It’s a sham, a charade, a farce. I feel that we might as well just laugh at it. Why dignify it with deep, deep logic?


5 posted on 01/17/2014 10:28:19 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Amendment10

Well it is weird. Will Obamacare be as reticent about giving medical advice? I’m doubting it.


6 posted on 01/17/2014 10:29:38 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: boatbums

This week has been one judicial outrage after another. From declaring gay marriage a civil right in Oklahoma (overruling something like 76% of Oklahoma voters) and tossing out voter ID laws in Pennsylvania, to thwarting reasonable restrictions on abortion, these leftist/statist judges just don’t quit. Why should they? Congress consistently lets judges do this, because Congress actually LIKES judges who act as super legislators. It absolves Congress of any blame!

These black robed tyrants are going to have to be dealt with. If we are lucky enough to ever regain control of Congress, we are going to have to start impeaching a whole lot of judges. Otherwise, they will simply overrule whatever the new conservative majority in Congress attempts to do.


7 posted on 01/17/2014 10:30:31 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Sodomy and abortion. The only constitutional rights protected by Democrats.)
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To: boatbums

Judge is an Obama 2010 appointee


8 posted on 01/17/2014 10:30:59 PM PST by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi)
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To: boatbums

Abortion is the only medical procedure a doctor doesn’t have to inform the patient of the details.

Rather shows how uncaring pro-aborts types are toward women.

A relative recently had a colonosccopy and the GI doctor went over every little detail of it prior. And afterwards he was monitored for an hour before leaving. Abortion doctors do the abortion and out the patient goes. No monitoring afterwards.


9 posted on 01/17/2014 10:32:53 PM PST by RginTN
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To: BlessedBeGod

Isn’t withholding medical information a crime?


10 posted on 01/17/2014 10:36:35 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

There is absolutely no logic to it. Like you wrote. It’s a complete farce—grand comedy. Unfortunately, it’s not very funny. The judges are despots. They are little more than super legislators who make the law up as they go.


11 posted on 01/17/2014 10:36:48 PM PST by CitizenUSA (Sodomy and abortion. The only constitutional rights protected by Democrats.)
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To: GeronL

I certainly think it would be.


12 posted on 01/17/2014 10:41:45 PM PST by BlessedBeGod (Democrats are Cruz'n for a Bruisin' in 2016. / Obama=Unspeakable Audacity)
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To: boatbums

Judge: Knowledge is Bad!


13 posted on 01/17/2014 10:46:51 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: NormsRevenge

Figures!


14 posted on 01/17/2014 10:49:41 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: boatbums

Abortion lovers are afraid that if a woman sees the child they are about to have murdered that they might have a change of heart, that is what they are afraid of


15 posted on 01/17/2014 10:50:24 PM PST by Sarah Barracuda
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To: CitizenUSA

Well, I mean laugh at it, then come at the issue at a different level.

We have folks lost in sin here. It’s going to be a seek and recover mission. Politically there can be some house cleaning, but unless the heart of the nation supports it, it won’t happen.

And here’s where I am even now getting into hot debates with other Christians. I’m making assertions about the fundamental redemptive desire and character of God that are getting panned big time, but nobody can actually disprove it. It’s like folks are counting the balance of gloomy and happy words in the bible and then puzzling out from that what God is like, rather than actually following (1) the story, and (2) the claims, of God.


16 posted on 01/17/2014 11:02:33 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: RginTN
You're right! All this talk about a "woman's right to decide what is best for her between her and her doctor", makes it sound like she has some kind of ongoing relationship with the doctor. In most cases, she's never met him/her before and never will again unless it's for another abortion. In many cases she never even TALKS to the doc before he comes in to do the deed. The compelling interest of the doctor is to keep women ignorant about what is going on or assuming they already know what they are doing and don't want to hear anything that might cause them guilt.

I think it is treating women shamefully and it is shocking how today's feminists don't care that it is going on. Read some of the early feminists like Elisabeth Cady Stanton, Susan B. Anthony and Lousia May Alcott and what they thought of abortion. They called it "child murder" and something imposed on women by unscrupulous men who wanted to hide their adulteries and escape responsibilities for their children. See feministsforlife.org/. They have the history of these brave women and show that their cause is STILL ongoing.

17 posted on 01/17/2014 11:10:22 PM PST by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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Do you mean like the “activist justices” who decided that corporations were people, and money was speech; or that eminent domain could be used for corporate interests in addition to community interests like schools and hospitals.


18 posted on 01/17/2014 11:10:25 PM PST by gleeaikin
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To: boatbums
"the power to compel a health care provider to speak, in his or her own voice, the state's ideological message in favor of carrying a pregnancy to term."

A moronic ruling. Utterly moronic. A woman this stupid should not be a judge. The doctor is not required to pronounce any views on abortion, but only to administer the procedure. And the law routinely requires private citizens to comply with regulations with which they might disagree, therefore forcing them to comply with the "ideology" implicit in the law.
19 posted on 01/17/2014 11:14:03 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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"What does explaining a medical test in medical and scientific terms to a woman have to do with a state's "ideological" message?"

Nothing and everything. In other words, ALL law involves an implicit or explicit "ideology," but citizens are required to follow the law even if they disagree with it. This does not violate their "free speech." No doctor is compelled to make any anti-abortion comments, he is just required to perform the exam. The judge is an idiot.
20 posted on 01/17/2014 11:17:09 PM PST by Steve_Seattle
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