Skip to comments.Number of Able-Bodied Adults Without Dependents on Food Stamps Doubles
Posted on 01/17/2014 11:38:30 PM PST by Innovative
The number of Able-Bodied Adults Without Dependents (ABAWDs) receiving food stamps zoomed from 1.7 million to 3.9 million between Fiscal Year 2007 and Fiscal Year 2010. In that same period, food stamp recipients in total grew from 26 million to nearly 40 million.
Spending on food stamps now totals somewhere around $80 billion, twice what the number was in Fiscal Year 2008.
Presently, the work waivers foisted on the states by Obama allow ABAWDs to receive food stamps indefinitely--without working or preparing for work.
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I’m going to get flamed, but in this economy, I am not as prejudiced against people getting help putting food on their tables. This is a depression and unlike the 1930’s we at least have the ability to help people avoid starving. It’s all well and good that families came together in the Great Depression, but a lot of people watched their loved ones starve to death and I don’t see how we should be too begrudging given the bad times we’re in.
In thriving times, yes, I agree, but not in this economy.
A lot of those are underemployed people who can only find part time work. Expect a lot more Obamacare “29ers” to join that total.
You help people who CAN’T help themselves, not people who WON’T help themselves.
This article is about Able Bodied Adults.
As my Father used to say, there is always a Job. It may not be the Job you want and it may not pay you what you think you deserve, but it is a Job none the less.
“Obama created a permanent underclass, who is not aspiring to work and get ahead, those are his and the Dems core voters. “
That was his plan from the get go and thus far, it’s working to a tee! The idiots in this country remind me of boiling a frog. By the time they realize they’re lost, it will be too late.
“Number of Able-Bodied Adults Without Dependents on Food Stamps Doubles”
But, but...All I hear is that the Obamy economy is doing just fine. What gives?
This is how he defines a Fine economy for USA. We used to measure Fine economy by number of cars and other things. produced. Now Fine economy means number of able workers Obama has successfully reduced to dependency on the dole. Fine fine fine. And getting even finer all the time. Three more years of Increasing fineness.
“This is how he defines a Fine economy for USA.”
Yes, I was, of course, being facetious. We all know that it is a prelude to a full blown Communist society, where everyone is working for the state, and employed by Dear Leader.
Yeah the last thing i see around me is starving people.
Interesting how you get it and you are thousands of miles from here. Included is a letter to the editor in the local rag, from someone who thinks the economy is doing just fine, and you won’t find the ABAWD statistics, or the drop in average annual income in the letter. The writer claims internet privilege and peer review but the debt to GDP figures look really bogus. No one can possibly believe that with the rising debt, and shrinking GDP there can be any truth to those statistics.
“The numbers say were better off now
America is much better off now than when President Obama took office. In January of 2009 the Dow was 7,949; today it’s 16,437. Unemployment was
7.8 percent; today it’s 7 percent. GDP growth was a minus 5.4 percent; today it’s at plus 4.1 percent.
In 2009 when President Obama took office, the deficit relative to gross domestic product was 9.8 percent; today it’s 3.3 percent. Consumer confidence was 37.7 percent in January 2009; today it’s 73.5 percent.
All these numbers are easily found through an online search engine.
For some reason a large percentage of Americans choose to ignore how our economic situation has gotten better over the last five years. To be sure, Obamacare is having a rough roll-out. And there are other federal efforts that can be improved - most of them.
However, when someone generalizes from one specific case, Obamacare is awful, for example, and then generalizes and condemns the whole Obama progressive effort, they are making a logical fallacy. The fallacy is called generalizing from the particular. The fallacy is that the premise (Obamacare problems) fails to support the asserted conclusion (all progressive programs bad).
We are better off now than we were five years ago.”
i get flamed for this all the time. If one reads the article notice they give you numbers then state the law. The article doesn’t say able bodied people without dependents are getting food stamps while not working or while not preparing for work. It simply puts the two in a position so that is the assumption.
I live in NYC. A single person working at Starbucks cannot afford rent and food. The usual rebuttal here, overlooking the fact we are not creating middle class jobs, is oh those jobs are starter jobs. Again, thats in a normal economy. People in rural areas are more or less shielded from the costs of living in a big city.
“Interesting how you get it and you are thousands of miles from here.”
I do not have to be there to get it.
I am on FR every day. While I get FOX news, I know the real truth by reading it here. I also know that Obumbo is a Marxist, so what else can one expect.
Just because I live a free life far away, it does not mean that I am not concerned about America. I have a daughter and many friends back there.
Oh, another FReeper is on his way to visit next week, and I am waiting to get together with a few, living in Davao, Mindanao :)
You have to wonder what (if anything) will happen if the Republicans ever return to the WH. Would they have the guts to do something about all this “welfare generosity”?
There you go again, AlexW, trying to portray your life on some island in the Pacific as being BETTER than that of the poor slobs left here in the USA--though I beg to differ with you on the point. You're there because you cannot afford to live here.
You just can't help yourself, can you?
Most likely at least 30-50% are SCAMMING the system.
Eat your heart out old goat...Oh, I will mention you to the several FReepers that are coming to visit next week.
Oh, are you really a “poor slob”? When did I ever call you that? None of my American friends and family back there are poor slobs, but they are not so happy with your messiah, lord Obammy. I have great feeling and sympathy for my fellow Americans. May God rid you and them from the Obamination.
Continue to be a “dog in a manger”. It only shows that you are not a happy camper in Obozoville.
Not going to flame you although you are grossly misinformed. This is NOT like the depression. And unlike the depression people now are unwilling to move to find a job.
Certain parts of the country ARE economically depressed others are not and people must be willing to locate where they CAN find a job. Also people must be willing to accept a job that might be “beneath” their expectations.
” And unlike the depression people now are unwilling to move to find a job.”
I completely agree; too many want the jobs to come to THEM and they want the job to be something tailored to them. Anyone with a good skill could make a fortune working in a foreign country, but so many prefer to be lazy.
” people must be willing to accept a job that might be beneath their expectations”
Amen; people who didn’t build up work experience through their own laziness and foolishly thought a degree should be a passport to a fat check and no one sees the value on honest labor for some reason.
Obama created a permanent underclass, who is not aspiring to work and get ahead, those are his and the Dems core voters...........
That’s called “nation building”.
They are human bovines.
Let’s get some terms straight here. I do not consider myself at 73 to be an old goat. I think you’re in the same age group. Therefore, using your own criteria...
Yes, you do meet my definition of a poor slob, a person who has so few financial assets that he felt it necessary to retreat from this country to be able to exist. That’s why you’re crowing about being immune from the political system here in the USA rings so hollow. You moved for financial reasons, not political ones.
Do I count?
“This is NOT like the depression.”
The main difference I see is that there is much more coverup of the situation now. One man who was old enough to remember the thirties told me a couple of years ago that this is NOT a depression “because we don’t have soup kitchens now.” Well, we may not have the soup kitchens of the thirties but we do have soup kitchens plus a HUGE percentage of people being supported by the government. The TRUE rate of unemployment is very much like the thirties but numbers are juggled to pretend otherwise and most people now have far less ability to make do with whatever comes to hand compared to the Americans of the thirties. My parents came of age in the thirties and they knew how to survive in the same circumstances in which many today would sit and starve or go out and steal whatever they can find. I don’t think I am exaggerating in saying that.
One thing that has not changed is that govenment is largely responsible for the situation and it will not improve as long as people look to the same government that caused the problem for a solution.
Here in PA the full " benefit" is $50 a week per person. That's a lot of money.
It's common to see "single" mothers that get the full welfare ride while living with a working male. They do very well. Welfare takes care of the necessities and his salary is all gravy.
Last night I was in line behind a fat chick that was trying to buy an energy drink with her food stamp card. When denied she said "All the other stores let me".
Rural folks have other costs that city dwellers. In most rural areas there is no public transportation so a vehicle is a necessity, along with insurance and $4 a gal gas. Where I used to live the nearest grocery store was 23 miles away.
The Entitlement Army.
Pulled off an almost unimaginable win in 2012.
Probably assuring Dems control national elections until the markets implode.
Yeah the last thing i see around me is starving people.
So very true. When your’e in line behind 2 behemoths with a cart full of nothing but garbage snack foods and they use their EBT, lumber out of the store and heave themselves into their Lincoln Navigator. You can only shake your head in wonder.
"One reason for the catastrophic growth in the number of ABAWDs is Barack Obamas 2009 stimulus bill, which opened the door for states to waive the work provision required of ABAWDs. That work provision mandated that to continue receiving food stamps, after three months of being unemployed ABAWDs must work or perform some type of work activity 20 hours per week."
THIS is the point -- that people who are ablebodied, NOT old, need to maintain a habit of work, the states gave them things to do, (not forced to get jobs, if there aren't any) based on their abilities, rather than just live off the dole almost permanently. That way since they did have to do some work, they had an incentive to look for and find a job. But Obama removed that requirement. This removed the incentive for many to find work.
I at least understood the point of the article but theres zero doubt it’s insinuating that all the single able bodied people getting aid are only getting it because of the law and not because of need. That sir is precisely how the vast majority on here are reading it.
and traveling to work in NYC is 5 bucks a day,every day. Roomates here still have to cough up as much if not more than someone in a rural area pays for a 2 bedroom apt and i’m being kind with my comparison. I’m not talking about Manhattan either.
I don’t know why i even bother posting on these articles. It’s about 99% of the people here are convinced that everyone capable of working can find a job that will pay their bills and feed them. The ability to see outside their own circumstances is totally lacking. We’ll never win back the white house until people start to comprehend what others go through.
Everyone’s situation is different and anyone can fall on hard times — too bad that the word “compassionate conservative” fell out of favor.
In many states those who couldn’t find a job and had a need, but were indeed able bodied used to be required — and they should be willing to actually do some work — usually “volunteer-type” work, but it accomplished two things: people who had pride were able to maintain their pride, that while they can’t find a job, they are still contributing for the help they are getting, and it helped maintain a work ethic, which helps when they try to find a real job.
The problem is that if able bodied younger (I am not talking about older people)people just keep getting money deposited into their account, they have no incentive to work.
FoxNews did an interview, it was a while ago, with a young, healthy guy in California, who surfs all day, gets food stamps, which he uses to buy lobster and other delicacies. And unfortunately this is not an isolated incident.
” But Obama removed that requirement. This removed the incentive for many to find work.”
You’ve broken the code!! Obama’s agenda is to create a dependent society sufficiently large to insure the re-election of RATs. That, and “income redistribution” are the sole elements of his presidency.
Taking money from one person, ultimately, at gunpoint, to give to another person just because that person doesn’t have “enough”, is wrong.
Even if done by government.
When Romney dissed the “47%” he hit a lot of good people who were just going through bad times and I wonder why on earth Romney thought that would be excusable.
This is why I’m shying away from these types of threads too.
I'm sure that I can live much better here on $30K than someone in NYC making 2-3 times as much.
The only way you could get me to NYC would be bound and gagged in the trunk of a car.
That being said this thread is about the feds taking my money at the point of a gun to give to able bodied adults with no dependents.
“I do not have to be there to get it.”
My point precisely!
The local idjet with all the resources at his finger tips can’t solve the equation. Suffering obviously from severe blood loss to the optic nerve.
Check out this thread’s posts ‘DOGGIES! The America bashing, (Remember, he calls America the USSA), little man is at it again! I think you hit the nail on the head ‘Poss. Things got a little to rough here in the good old USA for the little man and all he had left was to take a run out powder over to the third world. Hell, they can keep him. We have to many gutless pussies here as it is.
There you go again with that “I live a free life” line again.
You’re only free because you’ve chosen to abdicate even your most fundamental of responsibilities.
And when you die you’re going to leave the rest of us paying survivor’s benefits to your widow for decades.
Fraud is rampant.
“...in this economy, I am not as prejudiced against people getting help putting food on their tables.”
Newbie since Jan. 2. Suspect liberal newbie. WE DON’T HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY $80 BILLION in food stamps every year and the amount of money spent that we don’t have will rise every year as long as no effort to work is left out of that law.
“Spending on food stamps now totals somewhere around $80 billion, twice what the number was in Fiscal Year 2008.”
I recall a while ago a post from he who shall not be named, saying he lives only on his social security (from the United States of America). He was making the point that he had little money and he listed his expenses living on that island to show he could exist with just social security.
Words mean things. It appears he bounces between having just social security and having a lot of money because he sold US property. I’m thinking he doesn’t know the definition of the word, “truth”.
Since you mentioned fancier purses:
Here in Texas we have western ladies purses - big and they are covered with fancy cowboy designs and are leather and cost a hundred dollars and up and you'd be lucky to find a leather one for a hundred dollars. They are heavy due to being made of leather and being that big.
I didn't want a pure that heavy and I would not spend that much money on a purse. I now have a beautiful ladies cowboy purse. I saw the most beautiful one I have ever seen in a muted pink with a large turquoise stone on the front and clear sparkling stones around the edge of the purse and around the turquoise stone.
I went in WALGREENS that is across the street from me, and saw that beautiful purse among others on a display case. I went over there and thought this purse would be hundreds of dollars and I would never buy it.
It looks like it is leather, but it isn't. It's made of a rather soft plastic that has been treated to look like leather. I couldn't tell the difference except this purse is lighter than leather. It was $40. I thought if I wanted until Wednesday which is senior day at that drug store, I would get it ten percent off that price, except it was the only one there like that and if I waited, it wouldn't be there when Wednesday rolled around as this was Saturday.
The clerk came over and I've been in that store so much, she is familiar with me. I told her I wanted that purse and was afraid to wait until senior day to get it. She said in a quiet voice, she would give me the senior discount that day. I now have this purse paying in the thirties for it.
If you saw me in a store, you would think I was Miss Gotrocks because I have this Texas cowboy beautiful purse.
I would bet the purses you wife sees with these EBT people are the real leather ones - I can't afford that and they can't eat that expensive purse. Extra money I have after paying bills is mainly in long term food storage.
My favorite one is, he has “cut all ties to the land of his birth”, but still uses his sister’s Left Coast address to collect his SS checks, and make other straw purchases.
This says a lot about ol' Alex's deranged state of mind. Despite the problems that need to be fixed, and the internal threats we face, most FReepers in general, and we manger dawgs specifically, still see our nation as the United States of America, the greatest and freest nation God ever blessed. OTOH, cowardly and lazy Alex, being the world traveler he is (just go research is past comments...he's very full of himself about his travels), gets his jollies and stokes his ego by denigrating his former nation. Probably gets a tingle up his leg, too.
The way I see it, he's treading dangerously close to being an expat recruiter again, which is why Jim Rob put the smackdown on him back in August. Watch him like a hawk (a manger hawk?), dawgs; if he starts recruiting again, we need to let the boss man know what he's up to.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
You are classy and nice, ma'am. I, OTOH, am neither, so I'll call him what he is...a baldfaced liar, and possibly a tax cheat. That's in addition to him being a lazy, not-too-bright coward who often has trouble with the difference between "then" and "than".
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
Our Favorite Boy Al called OldPossum - one of OUR Manger Dawgs, mind you - “Old Goat”!!!!
Getting to be quite the li’l curmudgeon expat, isn’t he...
“...so I’ll call him what he is...a baldfaced liar, ...”
But... he IS quite fond of us... that’s a plus... isn’t it??