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Coming 'oil glut' may push global economy into deflation
The Telegraph (UK) ^ | 8:52PM GMT 15 Jan 2014 | Ambrose Evans-Pritchard

Posted on 01/18/2014 10:12:50 AM PST by Praxeologue

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Evans-Pritchard sees an oil glut, rising world money supply, rising world debt and austerity as causing deflation. His economic thinking has the logic of an AGW scientist. He has a huge following, however.
1 posted on 01/18/2014 10:12:50 AM PST by Praxeologue
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To: Kennard

Bring on the glut....


2 posted on 01/18/2014 10:17:00 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Kennard

Bad news for Saudi Arabia and Al Qaeda. Finally.


3 posted on 01/18/2014 10:19:15 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Kennard

With all the money we’ve printed, and all the debt we owe, deflation is the last thing the Fed will allow.


4 posted on 01/18/2014 10:20:13 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: Kennard

In the mid-long term, the new fracking craze will raise up a lot of previously inaccessible oil. If the Middle East malaise partly clears, that is a bonus.

I’m almost wondering if this is a silver lining of Obama’s inept foreign relations. The world knows it can’t count on America, so it begins seeking what it can for itself. And then God blesses it for doing so. Could our more foreign relations savvy Republicans actually have been making the world too dependent on America for its own good?


5 posted on 01/18/2014 10:21:00 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Gee, just think if our government were PROMOTING
oil production. We’d be in a hell of a fix...


6 posted on 01/18/2014 10:21:21 AM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: Yo-Yo

Well, at least it would be a counterforce to its consequences. Like I’ve said, we need a gold mine in America to pay for all this funny money. Maybe fracking oil is it.


7 posted on 01/18/2014 10:21:59 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: tet68
Gee, just think if our government were PROMOTING oil production. We’d be in a hell of a fix...

And imagine how much worse the economy would be without the fracking boom. < shudder>

8 posted on 01/18/2014 10:22:30 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Well, at least it would be a counterforce to its consequences. Like I’ve said, we need a gold mine in America to pay for all this funny money. Maybe fracking oil is it.

They'll just increase spending proportionately. Bummer, huh?

9 posted on 01/18/2014 10:24:08 AM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: tet68

The private sector seems to be doing a pretty fair job of it.

The high gas prices are partly because of overregulation choking the refinery biz. Only a handful of blessed, expensively fitted refineries furnish the juice pumped by gas stations nationwide, and so the sparse competition lets prices stay high. Let more refineries into the picture (to be sure, established ones will try to fight that) and we will be travelin’.


10 posted on 01/18/2014 10:24:29 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: St_Thomas_Aquinas

Well that is a temptation.

But who says we need to have idiots at the helm forever?


11 posted on 01/18/2014 10:25:04 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Kennard

Don’t the Chinese have oil shale too?


12 posted on 01/18/2014 10:25:09 AM PST by montag813
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To: Kennard

No problem, the Feds will just double or triple taxes to compensate.


13 posted on 01/18/2014 10:25:55 AM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: montag813

If they do, they probably won’t be shy about cooking it out even if it smogs the whole Chinese countryside.


14 posted on 01/18/2014 10:27:02 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: Kennard
Blah, blah, blah to him. Economists are full of sh*t. They remind me of physicists who think they have the universe figured out according to math equations on a chalk board.

More oil WILL eventually reduce the cost of gasoline which will give people more discretionary spending income which will raise net worth. Yes, I know it's a fungible product. However, eventually the net cost of gasoline will decrease.

Funny how the Time and Newsweek rags said we were running out of oil so many decades back much like other erroneous crap they predicted on another thread here on FR.

15 posted on 01/18/2014 10:28:04 AM PST by A Navy Vet (An Oath is Forever!)
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To: A Navy Vet

A gracious God is being rather annoying about knocking at our door with blessings, every single time the Chicken Littles think they have a bulletproof racket going.


16 posted on 01/18/2014 10:29:18 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: tet68
Probably never survive...
17 posted on 01/18/2014 10:31:23 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: HiTech RedNeck
I’m almost wondering if this is a silver lining of Obama’s inept foreign relations. The world knows it can’t count on America, so it begins seeking what it can for itself. And then God blesses it for doing so.

Pax Americana should have lowered risk, increased production and kept oil prices down. Higher oil prices, however, will now increase unconventional U.S. production, improve the U.S. balance of payments and counteract the domestic negative effect of high energy costs. As you imply, this may be a win either way for the U.S.

18 posted on 01/18/2014 10:34:02 AM PST by Praxeologue
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To: A Navy Vet

Like I said, it would counter an inflationary trend, so he isn’t entirely in the dark. He just needs more picture in his equations. The world kited money. Then God stepped in and showed it more real wealth. Agh, what is Satan to do? Well Satan does have us despising ourselves in other ways. Abortion and the wastes of socialized medicine, ‘nuff said. But it’s only our own fault that this situation has to go on as badly as it is.


19 posted on 01/18/2014 10:34:16 AM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: montag813

Just about everybody has oil and gas shale.

Massive reserves in S. America, Europe, Australia and China. Probably the largest volume is in Russia, not surprising since it is the largest country.

When US prices for gas drop low enough, those American who have acquired expertise will fan out across the glove and drill for the gas there.

All of which is a very good thing. The power and influence of the Arab oil states, and by extension that of Islamists, has flowed from their control of a scarce resource. When the resource is no longer scarce, their influence goes bye-bye.


20 posted on 01/18/2014 10:37:10 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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