Skip to comments.Dagestan Leader Says Parents of Extremists Must Be Punished
Posted on 01/18/2014 11:23:16 AM PST by Navy Patriot
MAKHACHKALA, October 19 (RIA Novosti) The president of the restive southern Russian republic of Dagestan said Friday that punitive measures should be introduced for parents of minors taking part in extremist militant organizations.
Ramazan Abdulatipovs press office cited him as saying that young people are being conditioned into hatred for other peoples.
Abdulatipov was speaking in the capital of Dagestan, Makhachkala, at the Congress of Russian Peoples, a forum for discussing relations between Russias numerous ethnic groups.
A draft bill on the proposal put forward by Abdulatipov is to be presented by the Congress of Russian Peoples to the State Duma, Russia's lower house of parliament.
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To me it looks as if they seek to avoid more division in society as a primary goal.
There is a lot of news using the word "extremism", but not what is and what isn't.
Some of this case reminds me of Israel and demolition of terrorist supporting family properties.
The families of suicide bombers should be identified and wiped out , to a man . No mercy , no remainder . That is ‘a message’ that might resonate with even the most hard core islamist martyr wannabee
wow - you & Kim Jung Un - separated at birth?
there is only one way to defeat islamism ..... and we are not doing it . Thus islamism will probably one day own this world of ours ; because we were too kind and merciful .
George H.W. Bush’s doctrine of a ‘kinder , gentler America ‘ has got to go . They need to fear us , at their mortal peril .
Plus, make the whole clan responsible. Take away the property of the whole extended family of the bomber, and banish them to Siberia.
I don’t disagree with this concept, either. The young and impressionable aren’t always understanding in human terms what their terrorist acts are doing. Knowing that it would cause the deaths of their family would make it personal and real. It would also cause paretns to be more vigilent about their children, and maybe not espouse extremist values that make terrorism acceptable.
This is a good plan; we’re not talking about a law-enforcement issue here. We’re talking Hostis Humani Generis. And this crap tends to run in families.
If Little Mo’ blows himself and bunch of innocents up, his entire family, Big Mo’, his his mothers, brothers, sisters, their spouses, and their kids, should be rounded up for wood-chipping.
But allow them to buy their way out with information on Little Mo’s recruiters, handlers, trainers, bomb-builders, paymasters, etc. Any valid info gets the lot off...
And, when you catch them, you know what to do with them, and THEIR families...
And keep going up the chain.
Russia is doing this as well as far as influence and finance.
Russia is moving to reduce the sales of Saudi owned/controlled oil and gas to Western Europe, and Western European control of Eastern Europe. This reduces Saudi cash flow for terrorism through the IMF.
Russia is also opposing Western promoted pro Saudi "democracy" (mob rule) in the ME, reducing Saudi influence and retarding the Muslim Brotherhood Caliphate (and sidestepping war in the process).
However, that's as far as they go, .... for now.
Ping for your comment.
It is the first modern recorded case where the terrorists were forced to hunt and capture or kill their own and turn them over to the non Muslim authorities the hunters answered to.
Won't that make them just like the Islamist extremist ?
In many cases their parents may not be aware of what their children are doing...
How about deport to some nice frozen tundra after a lengthy prison term...
I can imagine leftists in this country rounding up whole families for the camps like they do in North Korea
For some reason, the Russkis seem to have a handle on dealing with terrorists.
Personally, I think it is because they had a hand in organizing, funding, and training so many of them during the Cold War. We should probably be taking notes...
I'm sure they have wet dreams about it...
If and when they try...
Possibly the Russians learn their lessons well.
Consider the Soviet Russian controlled Communists were the designated successors to the Shah of Iran when Carter decided to enforce regime change. They lasted less than two weeks and Iran was the first Islamic terrorist "republic" born.
Bottom line, the Soviets didn't get much out of Iran compared to what the Communists would have given them, so they probably took note and quit doing the dirty work for the Muslims after that.
Then consider Serbia-Kosovo, and how Putin duplicated the tactics in Georgia with the Islamic and Christian winners and losers reversed, plus the oil pipeline. Seems the Russians do learn their lessons well.
I’m disagree. Only if they can prove relatives’ involvement. Better punish Obamao and Saudis.
>>For some reason, the Russkis seem to have a handle on dealing with terrorists.
Personally, I think it is because they had a hand in organizing, funding, and training so many of them during the Cold War. We should probably be taking notes..<<
Russians were never near behind sunni terrorists attacking the west in the last decades.
They are simply longer in business and somehow more experienced.
They had their Carter moment with Tehran embassy raided and ambassador killed too, but it was in earlier 19th century.
Russian approach to muslim issues were shaped about that time, long before any political correctness, humanitarianism and collateral damage terms were invented.
I wonder if he will also insist that parents get handcuffed by being threatened with abuse charges if they punish their kids - works so great here...
Mostly I meant that the Russian know how to deal with cunning, murderous brutes, having previously manipulated and used them against the West.
The Russians are smart enough to not worry about whether or not these people, and those they claim to represent, like them; instead they just make sure these people develop an abject terror of them. That is an example I think we should follow.
I have seen collective punishment work remarkably well.
Also I refuse to listen to arguments from American leftist Democrats against it, they have to quit legal persecution of families and supporters of conservatives that exercise their Constitutional rights before I'll listen to anything they say.