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Toronto Police getting smaller crusiers
TORONTO SUN ^ | JANUARY 18, 2014 | IAN ROBERTSON

Posted on 01/18/2014 12:00:34 PM PST by rickmichaels

TORONTO - Toronto Police are downsizing.

Most of its big Ford Crown Victoria cruisers – which have not been built since 2011— will likely be retired by 2016.

Until then, Const. Wendy Drummond said officers will road test smaller cars and SUVs to determine the best type of replacements.

Despite being on the road for months, many people have not seen the Toronto Police-marked test autos.

Drummond said four Taurus “Police Interceptors” and two Ford Explorers are driven on regular patrols, which allow “for the collection of data.”

Older-style 5.4-by-1.96 metre, V-8 Crown Victoria “Police Interceptors” have a 2.9-metre wheel base and are 1.4 metres tall.

The front-wheel-drive 2014 Taurus measures 5.15-by-1.9 metres, is 1.54 metres tall, and has a 2.86-metre wheel base. Two beefed-up 3.5-litre V6 engines are offered.

Departments across Canada and the United States, which share information through a “police co-operative purchasing group” — whose members also attend squad car trials hosted each fall by the Michigan State Police — have good reason to need different vehicles, which also include General Motors and Chrysler cruisers.

Produced in St. Thomas, Ont. for global law enforcement use, “Crown Vics” were the last full-sized real-wheel-drive North American cop cars, after General Motors discontinued its four-door V-8 Chevrolet Caprice in 1996.

Thousands of the Fords are still on patrol, but will soon reach the end of the road.

Guidelines that restrict police use on the hours an engine has operated, plus mileage and overall condition, maintain safety standards and reduce time lost due to mounting repairs needed by older vehicles — especially those as hard-driven as cruisers.

To maintain its fleet, Toronto Police paid $5 million for 300 Crowns in 2011.

The bulk order provided “$1.5 million in savings,” Drummond said. Stored and regularly test-run, “we were able to deploy those vehicles over the last three years.”

Other forces have bought competitors’ smaller vehicles for several years, including the OPP, who also use SUVs.

In 2009, GM announced a new Police Patrol Vehicle (PPV). Based on the Holden Caprice, the V-8 powered four-door Chevrolets are imported from Australia.

Chrysler’s new rear-wheel-drive, V-6 or V-8 Dodge Charger hit the road in 2006.

Some officers complain of feeling cramped due to their bulky personal equipment plus computer consoles. Many don’t like front–wheel drive while others have lauded the smaller cars.

Drummond said a decision on new replacement cars is expected in November.


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1 posted on 01/18/2014 12:00:34 PM PST by rickmichaels
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To: rickmichaels

In keeping with the environmentally conscious times, they will now drive smart cars, prius, and volts.


2 posted on 01/18/2014 12:05:56 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Darksheare

Nah,...two man bicycles.


3 posted on 01/18/2014 12:12:19 PM PST by SandRat (Duty - Honor - Country! What else needs said?)
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To: rickmichaels

As seems to be the new wave in law enforcement, if you shoot the ones you would have taken to jail in the past, you don’t need so large a car. Kinda makes sense. They’re just looking out for the taxpayers.


4 posted on 01/18/2014 12:13:32 PM PST by Foundahardheadedwoman (God don't have a statute of limitations)
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To: rickmichaels
I can see why the smaller cars are an issue.

A lot of the LEOs here in Indiana are quite overweight.

Of course maybe management needs to lead by example.


5 posted on 01/18/2014 12:17:08 PM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Darksheare
In keeping with the environmentally conscious times, they will now drive smart cars, prius, and volts.

For pursuit purposes -- it really doesn't matter what they drive, you simply cannot outrun police radio.

Now response times to home burglaries, etc.. are another story entirely. No substitute for HP and torque in those situations.

6 posted on 01/18/2014 12:20:51 PM PST by usconservative (When The Ballot Box No Longer Counts, The Ammunition Box Does. (What's In Your Ammo Box?))
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To: rickmichaels
After the police car purchase is complete, they will chose this for the fire departments. Those Hoser's


7 posted on 01/18/2014 12:21:15 PM PST by ImJustAnotherOkie (zerogottago)
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To: ImJustAnotherOkie

8 posted on 01/18/2014 12:22:22 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: rickmichaels
Since there isn't much room in these new cruisers, each will be equipped with a coil of rope for tying apprehended suspects to the hood.


9 posted on 01/18/2014 12:22:25 PM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: GeronL

Going after speeders

10 posted on 01/18/2014 12:24:04 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: SandRat; usconservative

Segway with a radio flyer wagon in tow.


11 posted on 01/18/2014 12:24:23 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: rickmichaels; a fool in paradise
Call the SWAT team!!


12 posted on 01/18/2014 12:24:43 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL; Revolting cat!

13 posted on 01/18/2014 12:26:34 PM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: JoeProBono

14 posted on 01/18/2014 12:27:17 PM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: GeronL
That's no good for when it's raining. Try this.


15 posted on 01/18/2014 12:28:16 PM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: rickmichaels

How can you have a proper chase scene with front wheel drive cop cars?


16 posted on 01/18/2014 12:29:29 PM PST by Yardstick
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To: a fool in paradise

THE INTIMIDATOR


17 posted on 01/18/2014 12:31:14 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: GeronL
Police SWAT team on its way to check out reported fight among participants in a sidewalk hopscotch game.

Leni

18 posted on 01/18/2014 12:32:30 PM PST by MinuteGal
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To: GeronL; a fool in paradise

“YOU on the roller skates! Pull over now!”
*Doesn’t wait for skater to comply, pit maneuvers him into the bushes*


19 posted on 01/18/2014 12:33:13 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Darksheare

Well, you’d think they would at least go for an
all electric...


20 posted on 01/18/2014 12:39:03 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

“Dude, your electric motor is on fire! The sparks ignited my pants!”

Shut up you pansy, you’re under arrest!
*Cuffed, tossed into back of smoking electric car*
Another victory for electric!
*Drives off, smoking, into the smokeset*


21 posted on 01/18/2014 12:42:17 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: Darksheare

“Right, burglary at your house, we’re on the way...
Say, you do have a recharging station there don’t you?”


22 posted on 01/18/2014 12:45:06 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: tet68

I honestly CAN imagine some PD going all electric.
I can also imagine the battery sparking and venting into the crew cabin at some point in this escapade.


23 posted on 01/18/2014 12:45:31 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: tet68

“Under arrest for impeding an investigation! You lack a recharging station!”


24 posted on 01/18/2014 12:46:09 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: a fool in paradise
Pow! Pow! Power Wheels, Power wheels power makes it go!
25 posted on 01/18/2014 12:57:25 PM PST by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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To: a fool in paradise


26 posted on 01/18/2014 1:21:02 PM PST by JoeProBono (SOME IMAGES MAY BE DISTURBING VIEWER DISCRETION IS ADVISED;-{)
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To: rickmichaels

Traffic cops are so old fashioned- Drones are the new enforcers.


27 posted on 01/18/2014 1:30:55 PM PST by matthew fuller (Our enemy list- http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/fact-sheets/2004/anti-gun-lobbying-organizations..)
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To: JoeProBono
Skateboard, ball peen hammer, soul patch. At least there's no box of donuts visible. Where the heck is this? Movie set?


28 posted on 01/18/2014 1:33:03 PM PST by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: matthew fuller

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/border-patrol-drones-being-borrowed-by-other-agencies-more-often-than-previously-known/2014/01/14/5f987af0-7d49-11e3-9556-4a4bf7bcbd84_story.html


29 posted on 01/18/2014 1:36:20 PM PST by matthew fuller (Our enemy list- http://www.nraila.org/news-issues/fact-sheets/2004/anti-gun-lobbying-organizations..)
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To: JoeProBono; Revolting cat!; GeronL
Paris. Naturally.


30 posted on 01/18/2014 2:26:53 PM PST by a fool in paradise ("Health care is too important to be left to the government.")
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To: a fool in paradise

lol


31 posted on 01/18/2014 2:28:16 PM PST by GeronL (Extra Large Cheesy Over-Stuffed Hobbit)
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To: rickmichaels
 photo PD_zpsb2c8ac15.jpg
32 posted on 01/18/2014 3:08:26 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: rickmichaels
Snort.

The Toronto Police Department needs to step up their game. Such as a PorschePolizei Car:


33 posted on 01/18/2014 3:36:53 PM PST by southernnorthcarolina ("The power to tax is the power to destroy." -- Chief Justice John Marshall, 1819)
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