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Bevy of gun-control bills shot down in Virginia House
Virginian Pilot ^ | 1-17-14 | Bill Sizemore

Posted on 01/18/2014 1:17:17 PM PST by RKBA Democrat

The House of Delegates panel widely known as the graveyard of gun-control bills consigned a slew of them to oblivion Thursday.

The Republican-controlled subcommittee of the Militia, Police and Public Safety Committee tabled a series of gun-control measures, meaning they are unlikely to be revived.

The hours-long session delighted pro-gun forces, arrayed on one side of the room wearing "Guns Save Lives" stickers, and infuriated gun-control advocates on the opposite side wearing "Background Checks Save Lives" stickers.

Rejected by the panel were these measures, all proposed by Democrats:

-- HB812, to required universal criminal background checks for firearm purchases.

-- HB535, to extend background checks to all sales at gun shows, including those by private sellers.

-- HB823, to authorize voluntary background checks at gun shows by private sellers who request them.

-- HB809, to limit high-capacity ammunition magazines to 20 rounds.

-- HB695, to stiffen training requirements for those seeking concealed-handgun permits.

-- HB992, to allow localities to ban guns from public libraries.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; mcauliffe; secondamendment; va2014; vageneralassembly; vcdl; virginia
Kinda gets you kind of misty eyed, doesn't it?

Virginia Citizens Defense League (VCDL) had a very good night at the General Assembly. They were the ones with the GUNS SAVE LIVES stickers.


1 posted on 01/18/2014 1:17:17 PM PST by RKBA Democrat
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To: RKBA Democrat
The Republican-controlled subcommittee of the
Militia, Police and Public Safety Committee...
WOW! / Agrrrrhhhh! ...What a Kewl name for a Committee...

2 posted on 01/18/2014 1:26:27 PM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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To: RKBA Democrat
Kinda gets you kind of misty eyed, doesn't it?

Maybe misty eyed in VA. The expectation here in PA is to shoot down the same type of bills in committee, just like VA. What pisses me off, with a Republican controled state assembly, state senate and a Republican governor, they could exert their will and make PA into a constitutional carry state and elimnate a bunch of gun control laws in the process. I might get misty eyed then.

I know that comservatives are on the wane in PA and VA. I think part of that is due to our elected RINOs thinking that holding the line with the status quo is a victory. The status quo doesn't fire up voters to turn out on election day. Just look at the last election results in PA and VA. Comservatives sat on their unmotivated asses.

3 posted on 01/18/2014 1:38:02 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (We need to fundamentally transform RATs lives for their lies.)
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To: ConservativeInPA
I know that comservatives are on the wane in PA and VA. I think part of that is due to our elected RINOs thinking that holding the line with the status quo is a victory.

That's just what happened here in CO.

4 posted on 01/18/2014 1:46:31 PM PST by Balding_Eagle (Over production, one of the top 5 worries for the American Farmer every year.)
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To: Balding_Eagle

That is why i am planning to move to Idaho.


5 posted on 01/18/2014 1:48:48 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (We need to fundamentally transform RATs lives for their lies.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

“What pisses me off, with a Republican controled state assembly, state senate and a Republican governor, they could exert their will and make PA into a constitutional carry state and eliminate a bunch of gun control laws in the process. I might get misty eyed then.”

I hate to say this but the problem is probably with how PA gun owners are organized. VCDL is really incredible at playing gun politics. They’re very much of the Vince Lombardi school and are ALWAYS working to move the football forward. And they succeed pretty much every year.


6 posted on 01/18/2014 1:49:16 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: ConservativeInPA
I know that comservatives are on the wane in PA and VA. I think part of that is due to our elected RINOs thinking that holding the line with the status quo is a victory.

Well said. Too many people don't understand the "ratchet effect" in politics; the gun-grabbers are going to keep coming no matter what, and if they manage to hold onto their gains when the GOP is in control that's a loss for us, not a win.

7 posted on 01/18/2014 1:51:23 PM PST by hitkicker (The only thing worse than a politician is a child molester)
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To: RKBA Democrat

simple question: how many gun control laws have been eliminated in the last six years in VA? (i am not trying to be a smart ass. nothing has happened in PA in the last six years)


8 posted on 01/18/2014 1:53:26 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (We need to fundamentally transform RATs lives for their lies.)
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To: ConservativeInPA; RKBA Democrat

I envy both of you. I’m stuck here in the hellhole between you.


9 posted on 01/18/2014 2:00:25 PM PST by SnuffaBolshevik
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To: ConservativeInPA
simple question: how many gun control laws have been eliminated in the last six years in VA?

I'm in California. Wanna trade laws?

10 posted on 01/18/2014 2:15:00 PM PST by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Shwarzenkaiser: fasionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Lots. I’ll give you a few years. Keep in mind it’s always incremental change; here is an edited list from VCDL’s website:

2012
- Repeal the local fingerprint requirement for CHP applicants
- Prevent localities from banning firearms in personal vehicles while at work
- Prevent localities from requiring extraneous info on CHP applications
-Prevent gun bans during states of emergency
-Repealed Virginia’s One Handgun a Month rationing scheme
-Allow a CHP to be used as ID for elections

2011
-improve the issuance of new/renewal/replacement CHPs
-Got a law that allows for discharge of air guns on private property legal in all localities as long as reasonable care is taken to keep the projectile on the property.

2010
-Repeal the restaurant ban (can carry in restaurants that serve alcohol - there are no bars per se in VA)
-Allows a CHP renewal to be done through the mail.

2009
- allows localities to be sued for having invalid, preempted ordinances on their books and allows for the recovery of legal fees upon prevailing in court.
-passed a law securing individual CHP holder data from disclosure by the Virginia State Police after several instances of newspapers publishing lists of CHP holders.

For this year, there are a LOT of pro-gun bills in the hopper. Constitutional Carry has already died in committee. Not a big deal in my view: no way in hades Gov. McAwful would agree to it.


11 posted on 01/18/2014 2:20:08 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: SnuffaBolshevik

“I envy both of you. I’m stuck here in the hellhole between you.”

Maryland. Ugggh. My sympathies. Uhaul’s phone number: 1-800-789-3638


12 posted on 01/18/2014 2:25:19 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

VCDL President Philip Van Cleave is the most brilliant, articulate spokesman for our 2nd Amendment rights alive, I believe. When representing our rights here, he walks on water.

Unlike some 2nd Amendment spokesment, he always calm, logical, and irrefutable. He slam dunks the libs every time.

We are so blessed to have him in Virginia, and he could do wonders for us nationally.

KUDOs Philip - and thank you for your many years of selfless incredibly hard work.....

Which reminds me, I’m overdue in renewing my VCDL membership.....


13 posted on 01/18/2014 2:57:34 PM PST by Arlis
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To: Arlis

“VCDL President Philip Van Cleave is the most brilliant, articulate spokesman for our 2nd Amendment rights alive, I believe.”

I agree. He’s also got a cracker-jack team that supports him. I just dread the day when he moves on.

If you ever want to see how conservatives COULD be winning, just take a look at what VCDL does. It works.


14 posted on 01/18/2014 3:15:26 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

“Comservatives sat on their unmotivated asses.”

That’s not unusual. Mammon-worshipping conservatives aren’t involved in politics. They care more about making a buck than establishing a good life filled with freedom for their children. They’re too stupid to realize that the fortune they’re accumulating can be taken away by leftists.

These dollar-worshippers never attend schoolboard meetings, county board meetings or village council meetings. They’re too busy making bucks. Then they sit around and bitch about commies in the schools, high property taxes and cops shooting dogs. DUH!

Until conservatives wake up from their money-worshipping stupor and establish freedom zones (Committees of Safety) in their local communities like the Founders did in 1775, America can expect rough sledding during the term of the racist Nazis Obuma and Holder.


15 posted on 01/18/2014 3:38:11 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: RKBA Democrat

What you wrote is an accomplishment. I suppose this is a difference between Pa and Va. There is not much left in Pa to do other than constitutional carry, then you run into federal gun laws. But there haven’t been any advances for over a decade in PA.


16 posted on 01/18/2014 4:38:27 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (We need to fundamentally transform RATs lives for their lies.)
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To: Carry_Okie

Hell NO


17 posted on 01/18/2014 4:39:05 PM PST by ConservativeInPA (We need to fundamentally transform RATs lives for their lies.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

“The Republican-controlled subcommittee of the Militia, Police and Public Safety Committee tabled a series of gun-control measures, meaning they are unlikely to be revived”

A thankless job but somebody’s got to do it. ;-)


18 posted on 01/18/2014 4:40:42 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

I dont think VA has a shortage of true conservatives. Outside of the DC area Va is pretty conservative. 65-35 in the house is a good margin. Virginia is not a bastion of liberalism just bbecause some have won state wide.


19 posted on 01/18/2014 5:24:55 PM PST by Carry me back
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To: ConservativeInPA

The problem Virginia has sometimes is the repub are often more conservative than the establishment. Like the last go around KC wins with any help but headqters didnt like him. They didnt like who Virginia conservatives wanted


20 posted on 01/18/2014 5:28:11 PM PST by Carry me back
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To: sergeantdave

Right on sargeantdave. 90% of politics is showing up. Although I’d add except for voting (I’m on the wagon).

Its amazing what several people showing up to a meeting will accomplish. Or what an email can accomplish.


21 posted on 01/18/2014 5:39:29 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

Nothing left to do? Surely you jest!

Does PA have universal recognition of permits? Why do PA permits expire? Can the permit be used as ID? Why does PA not issue permits to nonresidents who don’t already have a permit? Shouldn’t the permits be issued for free?

When Alaska got CC it was because their legislature finally got tired of the incremental improvements and decided to chuck the whole thing.


22 posted on 01/18/2014 5:46:45 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: Carry me back

IMHO, Va has plenty of conservatives but is getting hosed due to the expanding population around the beltway. And race politics are very much an issue.

The Va gop isn’t helping anything either.


23 posted on 01/18/2014 5:50:29 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

“Its amazing what several people showing up to a meeting will accomplish. Or what an email can accomplish.”

In combat, it’s amazing what a correctly positioned platoon can do in killing the enemy.

Your statement is on target, buddy.

Semper fi.


24 posted on 01/18/2014 5:56:13 PM PST by sergeantdave
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To: RKBA Democrat

Anti-gun laws are like heads of Medusa. The get a dozen knocked down this week, next week they will trot out three dozen more.

Lefties sure are good at tripling down!


25 posted on 01/18/2014 6:04:46 PM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: Right Wing Assault

“Anti-gun laws are like heads of Medusa. The get a dozen knocked down this week, next week they will trot out three dozen more.”

Oh yeah. They never, ever give up. I think the deadline for new bills has passed for this year.


26 posted on 01/18/2014 6:09:39 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

“HB992, to allow localities to ban guns from public libraries.”

So police can’t go into the library?


27 posted on 01/18/2014 6:12:31 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: AppyPappy

“So police can’t go into the library?”

Guess so. Gun grabbers are rarely logical.


28 posted on 01/18/2014 7:05:04 PM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

A “bevy”?? Is that bigger or smaller than a bunch, a wad, a clump, a pile, tons, and lots?


29 posted on 01/18/2014 7:09:04 PM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: RKBA Democrat

BTTT


30 posted on 01/18/2014 9:12:30 PM PST by HokieMom (Pacepa : Can the U.S. afford a president who can't recognize anti-Americanism?)
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To: ConservativeInPA
Daryl Metcaff is the only Pa legislator with balls. Love him.

I hope his call to impeach that bucktoothed bitch Kane gets traction.

31 posted on 01/18/2014 11:09:54 PM PST by metalurgist ( Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't give up peaceably.)
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To: RKBA Democrat

FOAC -Firearm owners against criminals is a good organisation that needs every ones support in Pa. Kim Stolfer, the head of FOAC is a very knowlegable and strong supporter of the RTKABA. IT is not known by a lot of people, but Kim wrote Pa’s Castle Doctrine.


32 posted on 01/18/2014 11:15:45 PM PST by metalurgist ( Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't give up peaceably.)
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To: ConservativeInPA
nothing has happened in PA in the last six years)

The Castle Doctrine law was the first bill Gov. Corbett signed when he became governor three years ago.

Daryl Metcaff has been pushing rollbacks since the Repubs. have retaken the legislature.

Support him.

I drink beer with and belong to the same clubs as my state rep. I talk to mine all the time. We also both ride motorcycles and I see him at events. Lobby, lobby, lobby.

33 posted on 01/18/2014 11:25:18 PM PST by metalurgist ( Want your country back? It'll take guns and rope. Marxists won't give up peaceably.)
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To: ConservativeInPA

While I share your concerns, imagine if the Founders thought the same way you did.


34 posted on 01/19/2014 5:00:37 AM PST by Red in Blue PA (When Injustice becomes Law, Resistance Becomes Duty.-Thomas Jefferson)
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To: metalurgist

“Lobby, lobby, lobby.”

Amen. It’s one part of politics that works and where conservatives can dominate.


35 posted on 01/19/2014 5:16:59 AM PST by RKBA Democrat (Having some small say in who gets to hold the whip doesn't make you any less a slave.)
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