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Ukraine criminalizes pro-EU protests
EU Observer ^ | 17.01.14 @ 09:14 | Andrew Rettman

Posted on 01/19/2014 1:23:44 AM PST by Olog-hai

EU and US diplomats have voiced dismay after Ukraine on Thursday (16 January) criminalized almost every aspect of the pro-EU protest movement.

President Viktor Yanukovych’s ruling Party of the Regions rushed through the legislation via show of hands in parliament.

Reports say that electronic tellers in the Verkhovna Rada kept flashing up a figure of 235 votes in favor just a few seconds after each round of voting, before the hands could be counted.

The laws impose fines of up to $1,275 a head or 15 days’ detention on people who install or supply equipment, such as tents or loudspeakers, at opposition rallies, who wear masks, who make “extremist” billboards or who form convoys of five or more cars. …

(Excerpt) Read more at euobserver.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Germany; Government; News/Current Events; Russia; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: europeanunion; eussr; france; freedomofassembly; germany; greece; italy; opec; protests; russia; ukraine; unitedkingdom; viktoryanukovych

1 posted on 01/19/2014 1:23:44 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

Yanukovich is running scared. Maybe Ceausescu came to him in a dream


2 posted on 01/19/2014 4:01:15 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: Olog-hai

If this is a real grassroots movement then he’s forcing it to adapt and change. He may be very unhappy with what happens next.


3 posted on 01/19/2014 4:45:50 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: Gen.Blather

Yes and no. You have oligarchs on both sides of the issue. Some of the demonstrators were paid to be in Kiev.


4 posted on 01/19/2014 5:03:35 AM PST by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: Olog-hai; All

The Globalists want Ukraine in the EU. Like Russia, they want Ukraine’s vast agricultural production and ice free ports on Black Sea.

With the problems the EU is having, only a fool or a Communist would join


5 posted on 01/19/2014 5:29:44 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Amnesty And Not Ending ObamaCare Will Kill GOP In 2014)
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To: Olog-hai

Perhaps the Ukrainians have seen how ugly unfettered protest can get in places like London, Athens, Barcelona, etc. and want no part of it.

Can’t say I blame them either.


6 posted on 01/19/2014 6:30:56 AM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck
Well, we don’t have unfettered protest rights; the First Amendment guarantees we have the right “peaceably to assemble” and no rights not related to abandoning the peace with respect to assembly, which means riots can be suppressed legally. If any country attacks the right to peaceably assemble, then there are ulterior motives.
7 posted on 01/19/2014 6:35:46 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai; mac_truck
Sorry; used a double negative when I didn’t intend to.
… and no rights not related to abandoning the peace with respect to assembly …
The First Amendment grants no rights related to non-peaceable assembly.
8 posted on 01/19/2014 6:38:34 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai
Correct, the United States has its own special rules regarding protest that the EU nags conveniently overlook.

See HR347 for more information.

I am curious though..is this peaceful assembly in your book?


9 posted on 01/19/2014 6:43:47 AM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck
That certainly isn’t. That’s riotous behavior, and ought to really already be criminalized under any law.

I had to look up the Ukraine’s list of rights because I got curious about it, and it bothers me now because it resembles the language in the USSR’s constitutions too much.
10 posted on 01/19/2014 6:54:50 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: meatloaf

Paid for by Gearge Soros, destroying one nation at a time. Just look at old Western Europe. It is chaotic. Spain, Greece, the UK, Italy, Sweden. Economies ain chaos. Bringing in African “refugees” muslims that are destroying those coountries. Financially broke because of the pathetic rules and laws that are imposed on these countries.


11 posted on 01/19/2014 6:56:07 AM PST by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: Olog-hai; AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...
President Viktor Yanukovych’s ruling Party of the Regions rushed through the legislation via show of hands in parliament. Reports say that electronic tellers in the Verkhovna Rada kept flashing up a figure of 235 votes in favor just a few seconds after each round of voting, before the hands could be counted.
He and Obama have the same mentor.
12 posted on 01/19/2014 7:19:43 AM PST by SunkenCiv (;http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: meatloaf
Yes and no. You have oligarchs on both sides of the issue. Some of the demonstrators were paid to be in Kiev.

What's important is that you have the limitation of free speech on one side.

13 posted on 01/19/2014 7:22:51 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: SunkenCiv
Re: "President Viktor Yanukovych’s ruling Party of the Regions rushed through the legislation via show of hands in parliament. Reports say that electronic tellers in the Verkhovna Rada kept flashing up a figure of 235 votes in favor just a few seconds after each round of voting, before the hands could be counted."

He and Obama have the same mentor.

That of course being KGB Putin. Someone a few guys on here think very highly of.

Yushchenko: Russia blocking poisoning probe
By Bonnie Malkin and agencies, September 12, 2007


Mr Yushchenko before and after the poisoning

"Mr [Viktor] Yushchenko, a pro-European politician who wanted to bring his country out of Russia's shadow, fell seriously ill on September 6, 2004 as he was competing in presidential elections against a pro-Moscow candidate, Viktor Yanukovich, now prime minister.

After months of tests in an Austrian clinic, it was determined that he had ingested a massive amount of the poison dioxin.

Although he survived, his face was left bloated and pockmarked, and he has had to undergo regular treatment to rid his body of the toxin.

In an interview with Le Figaro he said he believed the dioxin used to disfigure him was made in a Russian lab.

Mr Yushchenko did not directly accuse the Russian government of being behind his poisoning, but he did say he had 'practically put all the pieces together' and the attempt against him 'was not a private action'. ..."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/1562838/Yushchenko-Russia-blocking-poisoning-probe.html
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"Viktor Andriyovych Yushchenko (born February 23, 1954) [was] the third and [former] President of Ukraine". He took office on January 23, 2005.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Viktor_Yushchenko
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(Ukraine) Hunt starts for Yushchenko's poisoner:
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/ukraine/1478922/Hunt-starts-for-Yushchenko%27s-poisoner.html
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pro-Moscow Viktor Yanukovich, new president of the Ukraine

14 posted on 01/19/2014 7:29:38 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: FreeReign

What’s important is how you define ‘free speech’.

The United States and their socialist counterparties in Europe should really tend to their own gardens in that regard.


15 posted on 01/19/2014 7:42:16 AM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mac_truck
What’s important is how you define ‘free speech’.

You have difficulty defining free speech?

16 posted on 01/19/2014 7:44:17 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: FreeReign

mac_truck is one of a group of Putin defenders that seem to always show up on these Russia threads. I’m sure they ping each other when one is posted.


17 posted on 01/19/2014 7:49:55 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: FreeReign

...make that, Russia RELATED threads. :)


18 posted on 01/19/2014 7:52:59 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: ETL

/bingo


19 posted on 01/19/2014 8:01:49 AM PST by SunkenCiv (;http://www.freerepublic.com/~mestamachine/)
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To: SunkenCiv

Getting tired of these Putin butt lickers. I have to spend too much time countering their crap. It’s usually the same group that shows up.


20 posted on 01/19/2014 8:04:20 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: Olog-hai

Why would anyone want to get involved with Europe? Germany is winning WW3 with their banking domination. And, why would anyone let anti-government protests begin? It seems like AlQaida sympathizers move from country to country, picking up arms in one place, using them in others.


21 posted on 01/19/2014 8:11:58 AM PST by grania
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To: grania
why would anyone let anti-government protests begin?

Especially if that government was put in place and backed by a thug like KGB Putin. /s

22 posted on 01/19/2014 8:14:32 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: FreeReign

No...you are.


23 posted on 01/19/2014 8:21:13 AM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: FreeReign

That’s true.


24 posted on 01/19/2014 10:33:12 AM PST by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: mac_truck

Really. Document it liar.


25 posted on 01/19/2014 10:53:25 AM PST by FreeReign
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To: ETL

Most important thing Putin said that identifies what he’s about was his comment about the USSR’s fall being the twentieth century’s “greatest geopolitical catastrophe”.


26 posted on 01/19/2014 11:40:44 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: FreeReign
Lol...your difficulty defining what you mean by free speech here is self evident by your failure to expand on and/or provide context to your original comment.

That you reflexively reach for ad hominem rather than attempt to explain yourself simply reinforces your...difficulty.

27 posted on 01/19/2014 1:01:38 PM PST by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Jimmy Valentine
Yanukovich is running scared.

No, he's not. He has plenty of supporters (notice the blue part of this map).


29 posted on 01/19/2014 5:31:55 PM PST by Drew68
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