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New Book: 'Let's Nationalize Fox News,' Let Unions Decide What's News
Truth Revolt ^ | 1/18/2014 | Trey Sanche

Posted on 01/19/2014 2:46:33 AM PST by grimalkin

Just imagine! Imagine a world without Fox News and Rush Limbaugh. Salon.com released an excerpt from the upcoming book "Imagine: Living in a Socialist USA" that asks its readers to do just that.

The writers of the book want a socialist America, one that would have "a democratic, accessible-to-all media" controlled by "working people [who will] collectively and individually…influence mass culture." The book abhors capitalist societies' news, which it says is "selected, organized, and presented by an army of self-important publishers, editors, and writers who…follow their corporate employers' political line."

In this new socialist society that has "erased corporate control," there will no longer be advertisements filling newspapers or commercial breaks on TV. The media would be owned by "labor unions, neighborhood associations, and cultural centers." That way, the "media can represent the interests of working people" -- not the interests of corporate sponsors. (snip)

This guide to utopia will be available January 21, 2014 for the low, low capitalist price of $15.99.

(Excerpt) Read more at truthrevolt.org ...


TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: foxnews; marxism; memebuilding; partisanmediashill; partisanmediashills; rushlimbaugh; socialism; unions
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1 posted on 01/19/2014 2:46:33 AM PST by grimalkin
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Salon has no credibility.


2 posted on 01/19/2014 2:50:52 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: grimalkin

I was in Russia for the first time in 1992. It was amazing to see what Communism (socialism on steroids).

Many people were walking around like zombies. There were incapable of thinking for themselves. Alcoholism was rampant. Nothing produced was of any value.

Things have gotten much better after 20 years, but it will take another 20 years before the country is caught up with the West.

Anyone who has experienced this would be insane to support Obama and his minions.


3 posted on 01/19/2014 2:53:52 AM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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>> “erased corporate control,”

And sketch in iron-fisted fairness.


4 posted on 01/19/2014 2:56:39 AM PST by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: grimalkin

If one looks at the Mission of Truth Revolt and its principals, he/she would see many younger Bill Ayers and confused, demented white boys.


5 posted on 01/19/2014 3:05:29 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: grimalkin

Will they get it right this time?

You gotta figure that after, what, a thousand tales, odds gotta be this time it comes up heads.


6 posted on 01/19/2014 3:12:12 AM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: Cowboy Bob

I was in Russia in 1991 and 1993 and I saw the same thing.

As we would agree, socialists never learn anything. They just keep on repeating the same mistakes.


7 posted on 01/19/2014 3:19:20 AM PST by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: OldPossum

An ideology that bases its entire existence on lies needs to be destroyed, It’s believers institutionalized and it’s champions publicly flogged.


8 posted on 01/19/2014 3:28:39 AM PST by EQAndyBuzz ("The GOP fights its own base with far more vigor than it employs in fighting the Dims.")
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To: grimalkin
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9 posted on 01/19/2014 3:32:53 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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To: grimalkin

Have at it.

For the life of me I can’t understand how the other channels stay alive.

Kill news off comoletely

96% of all union jobs are gubmint.,

We’ll learn how mentally ill they are if they are allowed to be architects, when they are mere brick layers...


10 posted on 01/19/2014 3:33:42 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: EQAndyBuzz

“it’s champions publicly flogged.”

Public flogging just isn’t going to get the job done. Well maybe. The surer way of course cannot be talked about, and even that doesn’t last because each new generation has its fence sitting socialists. It’s just part of some humans inner self. Recognizing and learning truth as well as acknowleging who the author of all truth is and learning to trust in God rather than Marx would help in the war that has been fought since the creation of this world and man to populate it. The war of good vs evil.

We know who ultimately wins but the war must be fought continually because there are two sides.


11 posted on 01/19/2014 3:44:57 AM PST by wita
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To: grimalkin

That would be a child that only a mother could love. While we have whackos on our end of the political scale (by probability), they do not get any publicity until they actually act out. The left celebrates its extremists as prophets of a golden age and promised land.

I need tell none of my fellow FReepers that this ‘Utopia’ is actually a distopia, a society that would crush the spirit and mind to achieve a momentary goal and then fail the society completely. Somehow I see Mao’s “Great Leap Forward” as a predecessor and the millions of deaths along with the follow-on power struggles and recriminations that led to the “Cultural Revolution” as being a sign post on the road that should not be taken.

Ah Well, these idiots always see a field of greener grass on the other side of the road and say to the naive and gullible, “This time we will get it right!” WRONG!


12 posted on 01/19/2014 4:14:46 AM PST by SES1066 (Quality, Speed or Economical - Any 2 of 3 except in government - 1 at best but never #3!)
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To: grimalkin
Just imagine! Imagine a world without Fox News and Rush Limbaugh. Salon.com released an excerpt from the upcoming book "Imagine: Living in a Socialist USA" that asks its readers to do just that.

Some animals are more equal than other animals.


13 posted on 01/19/2014 4:21:38 AM PST by USS Alaska (If I could...I would.)
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To: grimalkin

Well, so much for any of that First Amendment nonsense!


14 posted on 01/19/2014 4:23:02 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: grimalkin
Salon is the cesspool, where the WaPo dumps it's
cr@ppy stories, which they themselves won't touch.
(*snickering* b/c of journalistic integrity :)

15 posted on 01/19/2014 4:24:40 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi :-)
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To: Cowboy Bob

“Anyone who has experienced this would be insane to support Obama and his minions.”

Liberals are like the abused woman who always takes back her abusive husband. This time it will be different.

I heard a college professor at a party saying something to the effect that, “It (communism) failed because ‘they’ put the wrong people in charge. We could do it the right way in this country.” (Where, presumably, “we” would put “him” in charge.)


16 posted on 01/19/2014 4:27:06 AM PST by Gen.Blather
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To: grimalkin
Wellll ... y'know there are two kinds of self importance.

The one that comes up through the struggle and becomes wealthy has every right to feel important about him or herself

The one that dreams of being powerful and only he or she is capable for that power is another.

The article is projecting.

17 posted on 01/19/2014 4:30:56 AM PST by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: grimalkin

What socialism does it makes children out of adults. Israel found out that immigrants from socialist countries like the Soviet Union had the hardest time adapting to freedom. Everything was done for them in the SU. They were treated like children and told what to do and when to do it. The free enterprise system demands that you act as an adult.


18 posted on 01/19/2014 4:46:07 AM PST by driftless2
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To: grimalkin
one that would have "a democratic, accessible-to-all media" controlled by "working people [who will] collectively and individually…influence mass culture." The book abhors capitalist societies' news, which it says is "selected, organized, and presented by an army of self-important publishers, editors, and writers who…follow their corporate employers' political line."

There IS a truly "democratic, accessible-to-all media". It's called ... wait for it ... THE INTERNET!

All these little fascists want to do is replace the existing MSM (the corporate owners of which they disagree with) with one controlled by people they like. It's not about "democracy", it's about "control".
19 posted on 01/19/2014 4:47:02 AM PST by tanknetter
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To: Gene Eric

> Salon has no credibility.

Thats what you get when when all your authors are gay liberal progressive butt humpers.


20 posted on 01/19/2014 4:48:09 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: jsanders2001

I think this describes 99% of “journalism” in the USA today.


21 posted on 01/19/2014 4:52:15 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Cringing Negativism Network

> I think this describes 99% of “journalism” in the USA today.

Chrissy Matthews and other MSM cheerleaders come to mind...


22 posted on 01/19/2014 4:54:46 AM PST by jsanders2001
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To: grimalkin

None of these communist dreamers ever see themselves cleaning out a socialist stable or unplugging a sewage line. They always see themselves in charge


23 posted on 01/19/2014 4:56:20 AM PST by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: driftless2
What socialism does it makes children out of adults.

Spot on. David Horowitz would agree with you. He mentioned this in his book Radical Son. It's the "I am special", "I belong to something", "Look at how wonderful I am" attitude.

No. We belong to God and His laws, not earthly institutions. There is no Utopia, because ultimately, someone will decide that THEY are in charge and boy, what a sorry outcome that will be.

24 posted on 01/19/2014 4:58:45 AM PST by grimalkin (We are a nation under God. If we ever forget this, we are a nation gone under. -Ronald Reagan)
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To: grimalkin

Ummmm... We already have the freedom and ability to choose whats in the news. I don’t watch any of it and read what I want on the Internets.


25 posted on 01/19/2014 5:08:22 AM PST by Frapster (frak)
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To: Gaffer
If one looks at the Mission of Truth Revolt and its principals, he/she would see many younger Bill Ayers and confused, demented white boys.

It is not Truth Revolt that is proposing union control of the media.
Their aim is to expose the attempts to exert such control.
They are the good guys.

Here is their Mission Statement

26 posted on 01/19/2014 5:16:16 AM PST by kanawa
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To: grimalkin

Milton Friedman’s Capitalism and Freedom showed the fallacy of that idea a long time ago.


27 posted on 01/19/2014 5:24:51 AM PST by Daveinyork (IER)
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To: grimalkin

The conservative rebuttal to this goes from the opposite direction: that the MSM has effectively become an oligopoly of about a dozen corporations, who organizationally are both vertical and horizontal monopolies.

That they have tiny amounts of competition does not make them competitive. So what is needed is to “anti-trust” these media companies to force competition.

The Federal Communications Commission used to have a powerful rule in place limiting individual media market domination by one or a few companies. That is, companies were limited in how many TV stations, radio stations, newspapers, etc., they could own or control in a single market.

But right now these dozen companies control the whole range of entertainment.

“Globally, large media conglomerates include Viacom, CBS Corporation, Time Warner, News Corporation, Bertelsmann AG, Sony, Comcast, Vivendi, Televisa, The Walt Disney Company, Hearst Corporation, Organizações Globo and Lagardère Group.

“As of 2012, The Walt Disney Company is the largest media conglomerate in the US, with News Corporation, Time Warner and Viacom ranking second, third and fourth respectively.”

So from the conservative point of view, breaking up this oligopoly and limiting growth, either vertical or horizontal, in media companies, would promulgate vastly more free speech and points of view to be aired.

I like to compare it to the breakup of AT&T, which in retrospect was essential for technical growth in the US across a huge band of communications. AT&T was “stuck in the 1960s”, and was a log-jam to innovation.

And there are still people who bemoan the end of that monopoly. For why, I have no idea.


28 posted on 01/19/2014 5:28:41 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (There Is Still A Very Hot War On Terror, Just Not On The MSM. Rantburg.com)
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To: grimalkin
.. "a democratic, accessible-to-all media" controlled by "working people [who will] collectively and individually…influence mass culture."

This sounds a lot like the catchphrases used in the old USSR. The workers would collectively and individually own and control the means of production... eventually, after they were guided by the Party for an indeterminate number of generations. And, the guidance was in fact enhanced by the state-controlled organs of propaganda.

No thanks.

29 posted on 01/19/2014 5:32:02 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: grimalkin
The "Comrades" need to bring Fox to heel in order to advance their socialist utopia.


30 posted on 01/19/2014 5:36:32 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: grimalkin

“...there will no longer be advertisements filling newspapers or commercial breaks on TV”


Where would the money come from to pay all these wonderful union workers?

No advertisement means no income.

Unless they plan on taxing the people to be educated in the joys of socialism.

The left feel that they have complete control now and for once they can tell the truth about their goals, but I think they are premature in their euphoria.

The American people are being forced at the point of a “gun” (the full weight of the Federal Government) to change their cultural beliefs and to accept things that just a few years ago if not illegal were at least unacceptable. These change are not coming about because of popular desire, but from unelected judges, and propaganda of the main stream media.

Will this trend continue unopposed? I don’t think so, if for no other reason then life is getting harder for the average American and we are being told that this is the new reality.

The left has removed the safety valve (by demonizing anyone that does not agree with them, and if that does not work, destroy them). They are making any attempt to demonstrate disapproval for what they believe a crime, labeling it “hate speech”.

What happens with a pressure cooker when the safety valve has been disabled and yet the pot remains on the fire?

There is not question there will be a backlash from all these attempt to change America, the only questions will be when and how bad will it get when it occurs.


31 posted on 01/19/2014 5:38:43 AM PST by CIB-173RDABN (I do not doubt that our climate changes. I only doubt that anything man does has any effect.)
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To: USS Alaska

32 posted on 01/19/2014 5:38:52 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: grimalkin
The writers of the book want a socialist America, one that would have "a democratic, accessible-to-all media" controlled by "working people [who will] collectively and individually…influence mass culture." The book abhors capitalist societies' news, which it says is "selected, organized, and presented by an army of self-important publishers, editors, and writers who…follow their corporate employers' political line."

In this new socialist society that has "erased corporate control," there will no longer be advertisements filling newspapers or commercial breaks on TV. The media would be owned by "labor unions, neighborhood associations, and cultural centers." That way, the "media can represent the interests of working people" -- not the interests of corporate sponsors.

I wonder if the people who write this kind of nonsense ever stop to think that there is absolutely nothing that prevents them from establishing this kind of media right now, if they can find funders.

They of course don't think in such terms. Whatever the gleam in their eye regarding the new order, far down the road, their immediate, overriding motivation in the here and now is to suppress media outlets that they don't like. They are thugs, using a vision of a socialist future to rationalize their thuggery now.

33 posted on 01/19/2014 5:41:07 AM PST by sphinx
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To: driftless2; grimalkin

“What socialism does it makes children out of adults.”
With their consent.
Because it caters to the perpetually immature.
You know them, the ones that always want their mommy.

That’s the hook it sinks in the flesh of base desire:
to be “taken care of”,
to be released from grinding responsibility,
to escape real life and suckle in comfort,
asleep in mommy’s arms.


34 posted on 01/19/2014 5:41:45 AM PST by spankalib ("I freed a thousand slaves. I could have freed a thousand more if only they knew they were slaves.")
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To: grimalkin
It would be a utopian world like North Korea.
35 posted on 01/19/2014 5:45:38 AM PST by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: driftless2
Israel found out that immigrants from socialist countries like the Soviet Union had the hardest time adapting to freedom.

Israel is a socialist country, designed that way from the beginning. Their tax burden and government size increases every year.

36 posted on 01/19/2014 6:03:27 AM PST by Reeses
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Maybe because the system worked... I could get a repairman out to my house in less than 10 minutes and the bill was very, very small. They were broken up by the left.


37 posted on 01/19/2014 6:05:56 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
This sounds a lot like the catchphrases used in the old USSR.

They didn't even update the "workers" rhetoric. Today the left is the un-employed and gov-employed no'bility, not the workers. They want to progressively enslave the few remaining workers to serve them. Leftist voters are allergic to work and can't relate.

38 posted on 01/19/2014 6:15:35 AM PST by Reeses
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To: Cowboy Bob
Somehow, the Left today don't remember what Josef Stalin did to the former Soviet Union between 1928 and 1953 and what Mao Zedong did to China between 1949 and 1976.

Between mass shootings, labor camps, forced exile, and artificially created famine conditions (not to mention ill-advised policies during World War II), the death toll from the Soviet Union and China during these time periods (by scholarly estimates) STARTS at 100 million and could be as high as 150 million! Think of the Nazi Holocaust, but completely unfettered.

39 posted on 01/19/2014 6:20:56 AM PST by RayChuang88 (FairTax: America's economic cure)
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To: grimalkin

In their wonderful world, I am sure the camp guards and staff will be fully unionized.


40 posted on 01/19/2014 6:26:50 AM PST by Gritty (Liberals think living your life free of welfare, EBT, and government nannies is "cheating"-J Hawkins)
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To: grimalkin

bfl


41 posted on 01/19/2014 6:29:38 AM PST by gattaca (The heart of the wise inclines to the right, but the heart of the fool to the left. Ecclesiastes10:2)
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To: sphinx

“In this new socialist society that has “erased corporate control,” there will no longer be advertisements filling newspapers or commercial breaks on TV. The media would be owned by “labor unions, neighborhood associations, and cultural centers.”

Haven’t read the book (and don’t intend to), but I’ve got to wonder if those idiots know “non-profit” union-ownership of communications has already been tried, to little effect.

Chicago’s WCFL (the call letters stand for “Chicago Federation of Labor”) was union-founded and union-owned during the Golden Age of radio - it survived to no great influence, and barely stayed on the air until it went commercial. From the Wikepedia entry on WCFL:

“While the original idea of a self-supporting WCFL was based on each Federation member’s donation of $1 a year for all station operating expenses, by 1926, 30% of the membership had donated. The donations continued to spiral downward as time passed, especially after 1928, when WCFL’s operating power was cut and it was limited to “dawn to dusk” broadcasting—from sunrise to sunset. The dawn-to-dusk operation limitations were lifted in 1929, but there was still no clear channel yet for WCFL. 1929 found the station notifying the Federation that unless members made their dollar donations, WCFL would need to implement some type of commercial broadcasting to stay afloat. This was the reason why the transmitter land had been purchased in 1928, but no construction was able to be done on the Downers Grove transmitter site until 1932. By 1930, commercials had become a reality on WCFL; the station did not show a profit until 1940.”

Sometime in the mid-sixites, a far-sighted WCFL station manager decided WLS needed some competition, hired Dick Biondi, Ron Britain, and others of their ilk, and the proletariat finally got what they wanted out of WCFL - the Stones, Jefferson Airplane and the rest of that crew. Only when the revolution devolved to commercials, pop music and insane DJ’s did the “Voice of Labor” (as they called themselves) have any kind of viability.

And then once WCFL became a station you’d actually set on your car radio, they sold it to Mutual.


42 posted on 01/19/2014 6:34:01 AM PST by Stosh
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To: Gene Eric

Salon is another product of the Clinton years. They came to be as rabid protectors of anything Clinton and deep hatred of anything conservative.


43 posted on 01/19/2014 6:36:41 AM PST by billhilly (Has Pelosi read it yet?)
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To: grimalkin

As I tell my young friends, who are now starting to “get it,” the problem with communism can be seen with the problems of Obamacare. In order for it to work, in order for any socialist program to work, you must remove the freedom of choice. And the freedom to choose is what defines a free society. Government mandate is what defines a master-slave or totalitarian society.

Obamacare has been an eye-opening experience for many young people.


44 posted on 01/19/2014 6:41:17 AM PST by MNnice
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To: Reeses

While intended to be a socialist state starting out, modern Israel is nothing like the socialist countries of the Soviet bloc nations. Emigres from the Soviet Union had the hardest time of any emigres from other non-Soviet countries. Israel expected them to do more for themselves.


45 posted on 01/19/2014 6:46:42 AM PST by driftless2
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To: grimalkin

The jackals are becoming bolder; either their confidence or their desperation must be growing.


46 posted on 01/19/2014 7:05:01 AM PST by IronJack
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To: LibLieSlayer

Their system was hopelessly outdated. If they were still around you could have what you had back then, a home land line telephone with perhaps two outlets installed by an AT&T employee, and nothing more.

This means as 56k baud modem, no cell phones, etc. But by now, your home phone might have a still image picture of the person you were talking to, that would refresh every half minute or so. Something they promised for 30 years but never delivered.

Face it, when that monster was killed, the future could begin.


47 posted on 01/19/2014 7:05:11 AM PST by yefragetuwrabrumuy (There Is Still A Very Hot War On Terror, Just Not On The MSM. Rantburg.com)
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To: driftless2

“The free enterprise system demands that you act as an adult.”

I’m 81 years old and there isn’t enough time in a day to list all of the freedoms that have been lost since I was young.

.


48 posted on 01/19/2014 7:10:33 AM PST by Mears
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To: Reeses
Leftist voters are allergic to work and can't relate.

Let me extend that to "allergic to real work"... Unions are part of the leftist coalition. Union members in the private sector work, but they want exclusionary, above market compensation. Union members in government (SEIU, NEA, etc) do relatively less work. The common alliance is of the government-affiliated rich and those who want more for their work than it is worth. I guess that includes the chronically and happily unemployed as well as those voluntarily on welfare.

49 posted on 01/19/2014 7:14:33 AM PST by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Mears

I’m 64. Tell me the freedoms that you’ve lost. You’re still a lot freer than just about anywhere else.


50 posted on 01/19/2014 7:14:42 AM PST by driftless2
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