Skip to comments.Rogers: Russia may be behind Snowden leak
Posted on 01/19/2014 4:19:19 AM PST by Brad from Tennessee
The chairman of the House Intelligence Committee says Edward Snowden likely received help stealing information from the National Security Agency and that help may have come from Russian intelligence officials.
In a pre-recorded interview for NBCs Meet the Press with David Gregory, Rep. Mike Rogers (R-Mich.) questioned how the former NSA contractor arranged travel out of the United States before leaking the trove of secret documents and eventually making his way to Russia.
Let me just say this. I believe theres a reason he ended up in the hands, the loving arms, of an FSB agent in Moscow, Rogers said. I dont think thats a coincidence.
Rogers said several factors of the saga raise questions, that some of the things Snowden did in attaining the information were beyond his technical capabilities, according to an early transcript from the show.
In August, Russia granted Snowden one years asylum after he spent five weeks in legal limbo in Moscows Sheremetyevo airport, a decision that has been an ongoing source of tension with the United States. The Obama administration has called for Snowdens extradition so he can stand trial. . .
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Hey Mikey ... you DO have an investigation going on about how zero travelled to Pakistan, or afforded all those colleges and housing and food, ... don't you ?
Mike Rodgers thinks he’s James Bond. He never met a government snooping program he didn’t like. He and Putin are soul mates.
Seemed very likely to me from the get-go.
Move it along, move it along, nothing to see there as per order of the RINO party..
Vladimir Putin praised Cold War-era scientists on Thursday for stealing U.S. nuclear secrets so that United States would not be the world's sole atomic power, in comments reflecting his vision of Russia as a counterweight to U.S. power.
Spies with suitcases full of data helped the Soviet Union build its atomic bomb, he told military commanders.
"You know, when the States already had nuclear weapons and the Soviet Union was only building them, we got a significant amount of information through Soviet foreign intelligence channels," Putin said, according to state-run Itar-Tass.
"The were carrying the information away not on microfilm but literally in suitcases. Suitcases!"
Putin's remarks referred to the dawn of the Cold War more than half a century ago, but they echoed a message he has made loud and clear more recently: that the United States needs to be restrained, and Russia is the country to do it.
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Appeasement: From ObamaCare to recess appointments, honoring the Constitution has not been an administration hallmark. But when it comes to betraying secrets to mollify the Russians, it becomes a document the president hides behind.
It was bad enough that the 2012 defense authorization bill signed by President Obama set America on a downward spiral of military mediocrity.
He also issued a signing statement, something he once opposed, saying that language in the bill aimed at protecting top-secret technical data on the U.S. Standard Missile-3 linchpin of our missile defense might impinge on his constitutional foreign-policy authority.
Section 1227 of the defense law prohibits spending any funds that would be used to give Russian officials access to sensitive missile-defense technology as part of a cooperation agreement without first sending Congress a report identifying the specific secrets, how they'd be used and steps to protect the data from compromise.
The president is required to certify that any technology shared will not be passed on to third parties such as China, North Korea or Iran, that the Russians will not use transferred secrets to develop countermeasures and that the Russians are reciprocating in sharing missile-defense technology.
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An interesting theory, and definitely possible, if one is familiar with how the Russkies operate. They’ve made disinformation an artform.
"the greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the [20th] century" -Russian leader Vladimir Putin on the collapse of the Soviet Union...
"World democratic opinion has yet to realize the alarming implications of President Vladimir Putin's State of the Union speech on April 25, 2005, in which he said that the collapse of the Soviet Union represented the 'greatest geopolitical catastrophe of the century.'
"'The Black Book of Communism,'; a scholarly accounting of communisms crimes, counts about 94 million murdered by the supposed champions of the common man (20 million for the Soviets alone), and some say that number is too low."
Forgetting the Evils of Communism: The amnesia bites a little deeper
By Jonah Goldberg, August 2008:
“An interesting theory, and definitely possible, if one is familiar with how the Russkies operate. Theyve made disinformation an artform.”
That sounds just like the USA king of lies.
I don’t believe this, but were it true it’d mean the Russians are better Americans than the rotten to the core leadership of the USA.
he people now talking are those who somehow have still not asked even ONE time, “Barry what did you do after 5 pm the night of Bengazi...?”
The question is short and simple and I can’t trust a leadership that doesn’t ask it — I don’t care if some of them have an “R” after their names.
It’s disgusting how phonies like Rogers can investigate & attack Snowdon while ignoring the communist coup to overthrow our Constitution.
Check out books like New Lies for Old, by Anatoliy Golitsyn, or I Led 3 Lives, Citizen, Communist, Counterspy, by Herbert Philbrick.
You’ll be seeing commies behind every bush... and that’s because they really are there.
The Russkies are still our mortal enemy, folks, and they make our baddies look like pikers in comparison when it comes to deceit and cunning plots.
"In an interview to be aired Sunday on NBCs Meet the Press, Rogers said that rather Snowden being a crusader for Americans privacy, the vast majority of what Snowden stole had nothing to do with privacy. Our Army, Navy, Air Force, Marines have been incredibly harmed by the data that he has taken with him and we believe now is in the hands of nation states."
"Rogers added that he believes there's a reason he ended up in the hands, the loving arms, of an FSB (Russian security service) agent in Moscow. I don't think that's a coincidence .I don't think it was a gee-whiz luck event that he ended up in Moscow under the handling of the FSB."
Most people today it seems are so freaking dumb that it takes very little to win them over. The Russians play 3D chess. Most of us, sadly, suck at simple checkers.
How have they been harmed? Please show us.
Exposing unconstitutional wiretapping and email hacking is horrible for Americans how?
I’d rather live in a riskier country than give up our fundamental rights. You?
Snowden exposed the NSA’s communist police state - the #1 threat to our Constitutional freedom.
The FISA, PA, PA II and Star Chamber proceedings caused this.
You wanna plow the field of Woodward & Bernstein again?
You plicks have excersised no oversight what so ever, demonstrating in broad strokes and vivid colors your apathy.
And the most damning information he has thus far exposed is the name of the program, one of many.
By Noel Sheppard | June 24, 2013
One of the claims by many of Edward Snowdens supporters is that what he revealed from the National Security Agency had little to no impact to national security.
According to former Central Intelligence Agency director James Woolsey, nothing could be further from the truth.
Appearing on MSNBCs Morning Joe Monday, Woolsey said Snowden has done substantial damage to national security.
JOE SCARBOROUGH, HOST: How much damage has Mr. Snowden done in your opinion to Americas national security?
JAMES WOOLSEY, FORMER CIA DIRECTOR: Well, Its a little hard to assess from outside, but Id say substantial, because what is now being sent out to the terrorists as well as everybody else is how these programs generally operate. And so they know what to pay attention to, what general procedures to follow. Its hard to sort of zero in on any one specific. But its very damaging when an opponent that youre trying to get information from, as we try to get information from their communications, terrorist communications overseas, knows that youre doing it and how generally youre doing it. It helps them a lot. [ ]
KATHLEEN PARKER, WASHINGTON POST: I wanted to ask in terms of what has happened with Snowden, what is more damaging to the United States: what was actually revealed or the fact that he was able to secure this information and distribute it?
WOOLSEY: I suppose the substance because thats what will help the terrorists keep us from connecting the dots. You remember after 9/11, everybody said the intelligence community didnt connect the dots. Well, thats part of whats been going on with respect to particularly going after the terrorists here and foreign intelligence collection, and that, the way we were connecting them is now out there and is in the hands of the terrorists. And so they know a lot more about how to plan, how to use telephones and the like. And I think thats the main problem.
We know Snowden could not enter Russia because his passport was revoked so he was in the transit zone. We know the US has raised questions of how the airline left him board the flight (BTW, airline just check for documents, they do not run the docs in the computer). Not a peep from US authorities why his passport was not immediately revoked... Not a question from US authorities of how Snowden passed customs to leave Hong Kong.
“R. James Woolsey Jr., director of central intelligence during the Clinton administration, said Monday that the United States’ failure to deal strongly with Russia and President Vladimir Putin is setting an example for other countries in the Edward Snowden leak escapade.
“Hong Kong and Ecuador are learning from Russia, which is that if you insult the United States and don’t follow international norms with respect to it, nothing happens,” Mr. Woolsey said on MSNBC’s “Morning Joe.” “And so they’re behaving appropriately. Nothing’s happening.”
Mr. Woolsey said Mr. Putin has been able to throw his weight around with essentially no consequences, or implied consequences, from the U.S.
“His general attitude is don’t be weak, and that’s fine, but he’s not really doing anything else except avoiding being weak, simply trying to throw his weight around with respect to the United States,” Mr. Woolsey said. “He’s not cooperating, really, on anything substantial, and there’s no risk in it for him. He doesn’t have anything negative happen when he behaves that way with us, so the kind of cooperative relationship we had from time to time in the past, say with [Mikhail] Gorbachev, is just not here he’s almost impossible to work with.”
Mr. Snowden, a 30-year-old who had top-secret clearance and disclosed the governments collection of phone records and a program that tracks some foreigners’ Internet activity, revealed his plans through a statement from WikiLeaks founded by leaker Julian Assange after reports he departed from Hong Kong bound for Moscow and then a new haven from American authorities seeking his arrest.
Ecuadorean Foreign Minister Ricardo Patino confirmed on Twitter that his government had received an asylum request from Mr. Snowden, who landed in Moscow on Sunday and planned to travel to South America through Cuba, The Associated Press reported, citing Russian news agencies.
So the people spying on Americans with no warrant just want us to take it on faith they abridged our constitutional rights for good reason?
The oath is to defend the Constitution.
Don’t destroy our country and claim you’re saving it.
Problem is most of today’s critics of Russia are the biggest supporters of Communist China.
You don’t think so? Look at all the defenders of Communist China come out of the woodwork when you mention “put tariffs on Communist China”
You lose all credibility decrying about Russia when you support Communist China (who is stealing everything from the USA)
More likely, he didn’t get Russian help, but the NSA would love to pretend he did.
From the Russian point of view, though, Snowden does provide them stimulus. Lots of the data they discreetly stole from the NSA is now “public domain”, so is now worthless. But at the same time, he has given them lots of new leads, and allowed them to “connect the dots” with other intelligence they had.
Also, likely many NSA leads into Russian intelligence have been compromised, so they can now quickly patch many of those. All in all, it’s a 52-card pickup.
Exposing the NSA wiretapping was just Snowden’s throwing a bone to those who otherwise would have been all over him for releasing national security secrets to Moscow and other enemy nations.
“Testifying before the full Senate Appropriations Committee with representatives from Homeland Security, the FBI and the National Institute of Standards and Technology, Army Gen. Keith B. Alexander, who is also commander of U.S. Cyber Command, shared his concern for the nation.
Great harm has already been done by opening this up, and the consequence, I believe, is [that] our security is jeopardized, Alexander said.
There’s no doubt in my mind, the general added, that we will lose capabilities as a result of this, and that not only the United States, but those allies that we have helped, will no longer be as safe as they were two weeks ago.
Exposing the NSA wiretapping was just Snowdens throwing a bone to those who otherwise would have been all over him for releasing national security secrets to Moscow and other enemy nations.
The main purpose of a passport is to allow you return in your home country.
Note that Hong Kong is now part of Communist China.
A nation can choose to either allow you in or not. You may have a legal authorized passport, and a visa from that nation, and still will not be allowed in
I know Communist Globalists hate that individual nations dictate soverignty and their borders, but that is the way it is still in the rest of the world
Look at the mountain, not the molehill. Most of what NSA does is spy on the bad guys and the facilities they have are worldwide and the data they collect is primarily and, IMHO, massively about non-USA citizens. The French get collected, the Chinese, the Russians, the Iranians, the Germans. They get it all. The Good Guys and the Bad Guys are all collected to any depth that NSA chooses. The rules they follow are not limited by the US Constitution nor should they be. Those rules only limit collection on US citizens and they are certainly worth scrutinizing. Yes, Snowden may have done us a favor in that area. But Rogers is talking about the 99% of the NSA business that is focused on the foreign threat and the collection of data about communications not involving US citizens.
We really don't know at this point what Snowden has divulged about the broad range of NSA programs and the related capabilities and methods. Those program directly affect National Security. They detect ship movements, troop movements, planning by our enemies, terrorist communications in Yemen, you name it. But Rogers probably does know what information about the NSA capabilities that have been given to the Russians. He is worth listening to. He is probably right.
The people now talking are those who somehow have still not asked even ONE time, Barry what did you do after 5 pm the night of Bengazi...?
The question is short and simple and I cant trust a leadership that doesnt ask it I dont care if some of them have an R after their names.
I agree and thank you for continuing the Bengazi drumbeat - never forget!
Problem is some people just don't seem to get it that the Russians and ChiComs are now close military allies.
From April 22, 2012 (Lenin's birthday)...
China-Russia Yellow Sea naval drills begin
AP via Yahoo News ^ | April 22, 2012
BEIJING (AP) China and Russia launched joint naval exercises Sunday that highlight warming ties between their militaries and growing cooperation in international affairs.
"It's an excellent exchange for China to be able to drill jointly in such sensitive areas," Yin told CCTV.
Much of that cooperation takes place within the confines of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization, a grouping of Central Asian states that seeks to check U.S. influence in the region and began holding joint drills in 2005.
Formerly Cold War rivals for leadership of the communist world, China and Russia have since found common ground in countering liberal democratizing trends across Asia and Eastern Europe and frequently vote against Western initiatives in the United Nations Security Council. ..."
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"Joint war games are a logical outcome of the Sino-Russian Friendship and Cooperation Treaty signed in 2001, and reflect the shared worldview and growing economic ties between the two Eastern Hemisphere giants."
Xinhua | 2013-8-10
A Chinese helicopter hovers the field for drill as Chinese armored forces advance during the Peace Mission-2013 China-Russia joint military drill in Chelyabinsk, Russia, on August 9, 2013. The 20-day Peace Mission-2013 China-Russia joint military drill began in Chelyabinsk on July 27. (Xinhua/Xian Yunqiang)
And the ChiComs too.
This is what FLEXIBILITY looks like.
The Sate Dept. and the administration failed to act swiftly and surely for some reason.
Wonder what Putin really knows about our actions in Bengazi?
You seriously believe Woolsey?
What are the specific things he did to compromise national security?
Then, bonus question:
“Are you completely and totally not concerned about the abrogation of your constitutional rights?”
You seem more comfortable parroting (sorry, “Quoting”) others so called thoughts on this matter.
Of course I'm not ok with that. But as I said earlier, that was likely Snowden's way of pacifying his critics and gaining their support. ie, "throwing a bone to them" to get them off his back on the national security leaks.
He's been pretty darn good in his concerns and criticisms of KGB Putin.
Really? Where is that documented? It thought the guys we only about 28 years old. Tat would mean he was only about 19 working under cover in Switzerland.
ETL continues to ignore (or support) the NSA’s police state tactics to overthrow our Constitution exposed by Snowden.
That really wasn’t the question but, you know that...
Sohhh, ignore the prior post I just made and deal with the real question.
Just what leaks did he expose that you are interested in?
The issue isn’t about Woolsey’s precience.
The subject is Snowball.
Gee, that sounds very familiar.
Problem is most of todays critics of Russia are the biggest supporters of Communist China.
Problem is some people just don’t seem to get it that the Russians and ChiComs are now close military allies.
I dont support Free Trade with Communist China, so I do not support the Communist Chinese. I want to tariff them til they collapse
Are you willing to end Free Trade with Communist China? If not, then you will be supporting Communist China, and, by proxy, Russia. Heck we still give FOREIGN AID to Communist China...even though we have sent them all our jobs and wealth
Lol...is that why you spam every thread that has Russia as a keyword with a series of pictures and articles unrelated to the subject of the thread?
Its almost like your desperate to change the subject anytime the conversation turns to present day Russia and isn't sufficiently negative.
Frankly, its a little bit creepy to see how consistently you do this and how quickly you produce these preformatted posts complete with links and photos.