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Obama Canít Help Dems Keep Senate
Commentary Magazine ^ | Jan 15, 2014 | Jonathan S Tobin

Posted on 01/19/2014 6:45:53 AM PST by Innovative

President Obama understands the stakes in the midterm elections all too well. If Republicans take back the Senate in November that will give them a stranglehold on both Houses of Congress and ensure that the president will get nothing passed in his final two years in office.

The White House is right that even in red states Democrats often prosper by playing the populist card on big business and abuse of the poor. Obama’s proposals for increasing the minimum wage and lengthening unemployment benefits may be economic snake oil, but they poll well everywhere.

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TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 2014issues; 2014midterms; abortion; bho44; congress; deathpanels; incomeinequality; obama; obamacare; senate; tobin; zerocare
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I think in this election, as in most elections, but in this one it will be critical -- TURNOUT is everything.
1 posted on 01/19/2014 6:45:53 AM PST by Innovative
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To: Innovative

Obama cant help the Dems keep the Senate...

But it sure seems the US Chamber of Commerce, Business Roundtable, NRSC, and other ObamaCare/Amnesty supporters...are going to help the Dems and Obama keep the Senate

More and more folks are not just going to vote GOP because it is GOP


2 posted on 01/19/2014 6:48:12 AM PST by SeminoleCounty (Amnesty And Not Ending ObamaCare Will Kill GOP In 2014)
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To: SeminoleCounty

The Dems are doing everything to marginalize the GOP, see this article, all the way to associate the GOP with terrorism:

Derailing the GOP Jihad (Washington Post)

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3113312/posts


3 posted on 01/19/2014 6:50:37 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative
Obama Can’t Help Dems Keep Senate

Oh, but he can.

Not by showing up to campaign, but by transferring Federal Funds to Democrat election efforts.... money stolen out of the nonfunctional Obamacare website.

Not by showing up to campaign, but by ramping up voter fraud to a 15% - 20% level.

Not by showing up to campaign, but letting illegal immigrants vote, and suing to prevent voter ID checking.

Oh, he will be helping. In fact, I predict a Republican bloodbath.

4 posted on 01/19/2014 6:51:04 AM PST by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: Innovative

He could resign.


5 posted on 01/19/2014 6:51:16 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
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To: Innovative

I surely hope there is turnout. Conservative turnout and that they whisk away the RINO Senators and Congressmen in the primaries.

To me a “Republican” turnout is nothing more than another name for Democrat.


6 posted on 01/19/2014 6:51:48 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Lazamataz

You are making excellent points, unfortunately.

I am still hoping for Republican victories, but they have to work really hard to overcome the Dem activities you outlined.


7 posted on 01/19/2014 6:53:17 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Gaffer

The Democrats have the votes to keep Graham in his SC seat.


8 posted on 01/19/2014 6:53:21 AM PST by Theodore R. (TX Republicans can't wait until March 4 to nominate Cornball and George P.!)
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To: Innovative

They have laid out the game plan:

War on women
Economic inequality
Fund a Libertarian to bleed R votes

This isn’t rocket science. Rummys like me who listen to Rush and read FR know what is coming.


9 posted on 01/19/2014 6:53:45 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Lazamataz
"Oh, but he can."

I agree 100%.
He is like a thief in the night. He will Lie, Cheat, steal, anything and everything just like he did to get re elected.
He will not play fair or even come close to fair. He is a low life scum. . . .

10 posted on 01/19/2014 6:55:05 AM PST by DeaconRed (GOD: Please send us one more Ronald Reagan. Soon. Thanks Deacon Red. PS It ain't Christie. . .)
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To: Gaffer

You said: “I surely hope there is turnout. Conservative turnout and that they whisk away the RINO Senators and Congressmen in the primaries.”

I guess you are advocating for these results:

“The only reason Harry Reid is still the Senate Majority Leader is that in 2010 and 2012, Republicans found themselves saddled with poor candidates in crucial races that turned almost certain victories into defeats. Democrats can’t count on the second coming of such godsends as Sharon Angle in Nevada (who let a vulnerable Reid off the hook), the wacky Christine O’Donnell in Delaware, or the unfortunate Todd Akin in Missouri (whose dreadful gaffe about abortion and rape tarnished every Republican in the country). But their goal has to be to keep the public’s attention on conflicts within the GOP and demonizing Tea Party activists who form a crucial part of the conservative base.”


11 posted on 01/19/2014 6:55:11 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative

...people will just assume the GOP will win. Meanwhile bus loads of Somalis will be escorted around the different polling places, have lunch and travel from place to place all the while, never once be challenged to prove citizenship.


12 posted on 01/19/2014 6:55:43 AM PST by Doogle (USAF.68-73..8th TFW Ubon Thailand..never store a threat you should have eliminated))
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To: Lazamataz
Laz do you listen to Levin? The other night his sources told him that Obama had two conditions on the budget deal and if they went against his wishes, he'd veto it and blame the shutdown on "them". One was no language restricting insurance mandates ( i.e. abortion etc letting Sibilius reign of error continue ) and no language prohibiting the IRS from looking into 501(c)(4) organizations...

If that is correct may one ask, how Tea Party Activist and said organizations are going fair between now and November?

13 posted on 01/19/2014 6:56:25 AM PST by taildragger (The E-GOP won't know what hit them, The Party of Reagan is almost here, hang tight folks....)
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To: nascarnation

“They have laid out the game plan:

War on women
Economic inequality
Fund a Libertarian to bleed R votes”

BINGO — including and especially your no. 3 — and Republicans fall for it every time. They are more interested in defeating GOP candidates, than defeating Democrats and they never learn...


14 posted on 01/19/2014 6:56:42 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative
I agree. It's about turnout. I have a theory, in what I am calling the Thunder Vote, that there are going to be some early elections that startle poll watchers, on both sides and it will be like rolling thunder up to the midterms.

I think the old "silent majority" (and the younger, disenfranchised vote) are about to make a statement.

JM2C.

15 posted on 01/19/2014 6:58:43 AM PST by IllumiNaughtyByNature ($1.84 - The price of a gallon of gas on Jan. 20th, 2009.)
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To: Doogle

If you have an R governor and R Sec of State, and this is going on, they need to be impeached.


16 posted on 01/19/2014 6:58:48 AM PST by nascarnation (I'm hiring Jack Palladino to investigate Baraq's golf scores.)
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To: Innovative

..........I’m still hopin that somehow, someway, anyway we can get rid of the sob.

.......one way he could save himself and his family is just to pull a Nixon and resign and helicopter off into the sunset..............

oh, and get Biden to pardon him like Ford did for Nixon! To a certainty, this would be the smart move for him cuz the little prick is in way over his head! But, Biden won’t do it unless at least two years are left for him to be the BIG MAN!


17 posted on 01/19/2014 7:00:56 AM PST by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Gaffer
I have checked out of the Republican Party and am now a scorched earth conservative. I do not care if the Republican Party acquires a majority in the Senate in 2014, or if they keep the majority in the House for that matter.

They are ball-less second tier appeasers with no souls or consciences who care nothing about our country save their own power and control.

Let it burn. We’ll have to start over with men and women who have a conscience and real values.

I surely hope there is turnout. Conservative turnout and that they whisk away the RINO Senators and Congressmen in the primaries.

To me a “Republican” turnout is nothing more than another name for Democrat.

IOW - The Dems have finally won, we have conceded, and the only way to undo it is with a bloody uprising?

18 posted on 01/19/2014 7:01:27 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: Innovative

I don’t buy that crap any more. I will not vote for a RINO again. There IS a conflict in the Republican Party. It is a conflict between those with conservative principles and those who deal primarily in lies. I won’t be a party to it any more. And, you can save your “you’ll just succeed in getting Democrats elected” speech. Not buying it.


19 posted on 01/19/2014 7:03:18 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: trebb

I won’t be shamed into voting for any RINO again. Save your arguments.


20 posted on 01/19/2014 7:04:22 AM PST by Gaffer
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To: Innovative

The only person who can help the Democrats keep the Senate and regain the House is John Boehner. When Bonehead and his sidekick Ryno give illegal aliens amnesty to satisfy their Chamber of Commerce masters, conservatives will stay home as in 2006 and 2012. Watch it happen. Gallup says just 3% of those polled rate immigration reform as the number one problem facing us; but the House GOPe just doesn’t give a Shiite what we think.


21 posted on 01/19/2014 7:13:15 AM PST by jmaroneps37 (Conservatism is truth. Liberalism is lies.)
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To: Innovative

Get nothing past them??????? Say what???? They agree and go right along with him. The RINOs will only become a Socialist Dimocrat Party Lite. They will give him what he wants or he will totally ignore them and simply keep signings EO’s.


22 posted on 01/19/2014 7:21:19 AM PST by RetiredArmy (I am proud to be a Christian and follower of my Lord Jesus Christ. Time is short for U to know Him!)
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To: Innovative

GOP can’t help conservatives take it.


23 posted on 01/19/2014 7:23:05 AM PST by chris37 (Heartless.)
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To: Innovative

The left just steals elections now. Senate will remain with the despicable dems.


24 posted on 01/19/2014 7:26:46 AM PST by subterfuge (CBS NBC ABC FOX AP-- all no different than Pravda.)
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To: SeminoleCounty
But it sure seems the US Chamber of Commerce, Business Roundtable, NRSC, and other ObamaCare/Amnesty supporters...are going to help the Dems and Obama keep the Senate

More and more folks are not just going to vote GOP because it is GOP

It appears we have a "blood feud" within the party. The marxists are happy to exploit it. I believe that it is imperative that we find common ground with the establishment GOP. Form a coalition to stop the encroachment of the government, which is actually the embodiment of all the wrong things that are happening to this country. All of the other goals will fall into place as we proceed along that line.

25 posted on 01/19/2014 7:29:52 AM PST by oldbrowser (Obamacare will be the equivalent of Mao's Great Leap Forward)
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To: Innovative
Shouldn't it really read,

"Dems don't want Obama's help to keep Senate"

26 posted on 01/19/2014 7:36:22 AM PST by Cyclone59 (Where are we going, and what's with the handbasket?)
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To: Innovative

Don’t really care to much about 2014. Even with he Senate we can do nothing with ODimwit in the WH. What scares the Hell out of me is 2016 where the Dems pick up 7 seats minimum and Hildabeast is Pres.

2014 is the calm before the storm. It’s a mere shrug regardless of the results.


27 posted on 01/19/2014 7:40:41 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: RIghtwardHo

I think we better take over the Senate now, while we have the chance, or we’ll never will and won’t be able to stop the communist takeover the county.


28 posted on 01/19/2014 7:42:02 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Gaffer

I agree with you 100%.


29 posted on 01/19/2014 7:42:03 AM PST by RIghtwardHo
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To: Innovative
I agree, Obama cannot help the Democrats keep the Senate. However the GOP will find a way to insure them keeping the Senate.
30 posted on 01/19/2014 7:46:45 AM PST by Tupelo (I am feeling more like Philip Nolan every day)
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To: chris37
The GOP needs to shed the stigma of Grand Old Party and get on board with a new meaning Government Of the People We need to get rid of the "old guys" both literally and figuratively, and bring in new blood - men, women, black, white, urban, rural - you get the picture. Market the crap out of it and start winning elections. We need to stick behind one another JUST AS THE RATS DO.

case in point - watch what happens when Hillary runs - every RAT in the land will line up behind her. For agreement sake, let's say Rubio makes a run at it. Let's say he checks yes on 8 of the 10 of our favorable list, half of the folks on this site will rail against him like he was Satin - just like McConnell is doing to Bevin. Just like many conservatives did with Romney. Quit blaming the media and blame yourself, if you didn't vote. Instead we need to get behind the candidate 100% before the election and WIN, then deal with converting the other 20% of the views. Would you rather have an 80% republican in office opposed to ANY % RAT? That is be big question.

31 posted on 01/19/2014 7:50:25 AM PST by Cyclone59 (Where are we going, and what's with the handbasket?)
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To: Innovative

And turn out will depend on Amnesty.
If the GOP passes amnesty you can bet on a very bad turnout for the GOP.
In fact, if the GOP passes amnesty the GOP is finished.


32 posted on 01/19/2014 7:51:48 AM PST by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: Innovative

The best ally Obama has is Mitchell McC of KY, and he is determined to turn that seat to Grimes.


33 posted on 01/19/2014 7:54:10 AM PST by Theodore R. (TX Republicans can't wait until March 4 to nominate Cornball and George P.!)
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To: Innovative
Obama’s proposals for increasing the minimum wage and lengthening unemployment benefits may be economic snake oil, but they poll well everywhere.

The number one problem Conservatives must solve if they are ever to hold power again: How do you compete with Santa Claus? Just that simple.

34 posted on 01/19/2014 8:00:14 AM PST by upchuck (Stop this abuse now! Get behind Convention of States: http://bit.ly/1ak1Iz9)
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To: Innovative

“If Republicans take back the Senate in November that will give them a stranglehold on both Houses of Congress...”

I’ve got a thousand bucks that says this writer didn’t refer to the Democrat majority control of Congress as a “stranglehold”.

And when are liberals going to admit that their goal with abortion is to decimate the birth rates of minorities?

Abortion is racist at its core, and liberals need to be called on this every day.


35 posted on 01/19/2014 8:01:40 AM PST by SaxxonWoods (....Let It Burn...)
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Conniving Democrats play the populist card----crapping on big business and whining about abuse of the poor. Obama’s eyeing 2014 w/proposals for increasing the minimum wage and lengthening unemployment benefits---- b/c they poll well everywhere.

What's this? Obama and the Dems not running on the "big effing deal"?

No mention of Obamacare---the signature legislation of his presidency.

As far back as 2008, at the presidential debate in Nashville, Democrat candidate Obama advanced his signature plan that was ultimately enacted (by an historic straight Democrat party-line vote) into the "Affordable Care Act :

OBAMA: "No. 1, let me just repeat, if you’ve got a health care plan that you like, you can keep it. All I’m going to do is help you to lower the premiums on it. You’ll still have choice of doctor.”

Repeated over and over ---- with the promise that every American family would be saving $2500.00 on healthcare costs.

LOCK-STEPPING PARTY LOYALTY NOT SEEN SINCE 1940's ERA EUROPE Obama And The Dumbos marching in lockstep. The persistent Dumbocrat drumbeat ---- in obeisance to Obama ---- kept ringing reassuringly in our ears: "If you like your plan, you can keep your plan."

O/Care's got free ambulance service too. (Pic courtesy of clearcarbon.)

36 posted on 01/19/2014 8:06:41 AM PST by Liz
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To: Cyclone59
Would you rather have an 80% republican in office opposed to ANY % RAT? That is be big question.

It is a false question, because 80% would be tolerable. What we're talking about here with the typical RINO in terms of abiding by the principles in the party platform is 40%, at best.

37 posted on 01/19/2014 8:13:08 AM PST by Carry_Okie (Grovelnator Shwarzenkaiser: fasionable fascism one charade at a time.)
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To: Gaffer
I won’t be shamed into voting for any RINO again. Save your arguments.

Wasn't an argument, more of an observation. Unless we get a truly conservative slate/choice, we are pretty much up the creek. I don't have any confidence that will happen. Many won't show up to vote for a "lesser of evil" so the hard core Left wins.

Do you have a prognosis of what it would take to get a suitable candidate through the Primaries? I keep hearing more with sentiments similar to yours, but there is a marked lack of a plan other than to not vote for the RINO. If you know of anyone who has a plan, I would be happy to spend time and money to help execute the plan. I feel as helpless as most and have a dim view of any chance to turn it around - especially in some sort of fell swoop. I'd rather find a constructive way to move forward than to just sit at my computer and rail about it, but I'm pretty much ignorant about ways to push any movement - even local Tea Party folks don't seem to have any plans that will help cause a substantive turn-around - just support any conservatives that happen to be in the running around the Nation, but all within the framework of a system that is stacked against us.

38 posted on 01/19/2014 8:15:34 AM PST by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: trebb

Most important is to close ALL GOP primaries to GOP voters only.


39 posted on 01/19/2014 8:23:50 AM PST by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: SeminoleCounty
Obama cant help the Dems keep the Senate...

But it sure seems the US Chamber of Commerce, Business Roundtable, NRSC, and other ObamaCare/Amnesty supporters...are going to help the Dems and Obama keep the Senate

Just like they helped him get re-elected.

40 posted on 01/19/2014 8:25:42 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: oldbrowser
It appears we have a "blood feud" within the party. The marxists are happy to exploit it. I believe that it is imperative that we find common ground with the establishment GOP.

Ridiculous.

The GOP has been progressively moving left since Reagan's time. We've continued to dutifully show up and vote for their quisling candidates, then watch as they stabbed us in the back over and over and over again.

Even when we've been in control of the legislature and the executive, they've done nothing to slow down the mad rush toward the fundamental transformation of America into a Socialist nation. The final insult was them running a man with a solidly liberal Democrat record for President.

When we finally found our feet and our voice in the form of the Tea Party, they declared war on us -- and now you think we need to "find common ground" with these traitors?

BS! Let them find common ground with us, or let it burn!

41 posted on 01/19/2014 8:43:45 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: Innovative

I agree. It is now or never. Our country depends on us to save her by electing conservative senators and representatives.

Local Republican organizations are the key. We should support them with our presence and our funds. We have to get the word out!


42 posted on 01/19/2014 8:48:39 AM PST by jch10 (John Beohner has got to be removed from the Speaker position.)
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To: Innovative
I think we better take over the Senate now, while we have the chance, or we’ll never will and won’t be able to stop the communist takeover the county.

Define "we", Kimosabe.

You seem to be advocating quite a lot for Republicans, but not so much for conservatives. It won't do the republic a damn bit of good if we elect a bunch of Grahams, McCains, McConnells, and Cornyns to the Senate.

43 posted on 01/19/2014 8:48:56 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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To: IllumiNaughtyByNature

Being part of the OLD silent majority, I say it ain’t going to happen. The key isn’t turnout it’s a good candidate at the top of the ticket. 2014 won’t bring a change. Too late for the Republic.


44 posted on 01/19/2014 8:52:18 AM PST by vortec94
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To: Windflier
BS! Let them find common ground with us, or let it burn!

I said both sides need to find common ground or else the marxists will continue to control the country. I disagree with your characterization of Romney. It is that kind of attitude of let it burn that has us in the mess we are in and has the marxists in charge.

Do you honestly think that we would be in the economic condition we are in if Romney had been elected?

45 posted on 01/19/2014 9:00:31 AM PST by oldbrowser (Obamacare will be the equivalent of Mao's Great Leap Forward)
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To: Innovative

bkmk


46 posted on 01/19/2014 9:04:16 AM PST by AllAmericanGirl44
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To: Windflier

As someone said — we need to support the most conservative Republican, WHO CAN WIN in the general election.

Sometimes a “liberal Republican” (much as I don’t like them either) is the one who can give Republicans the majority.

SO what do YOU prefer — a Dem majority or a Republican majority?


47 posted on 01/19/2014 9:19:52 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Innovative
Correct... obama cannot help the dims keep the senate... but republicans can ensure that they will and it looks today as if they are going to be successful.
48 posted on 01/19/2014 9:20:57 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: SaxxonWoods

And when are liberals going to admit that their goal with abortion is to decimate the birth rates of minorities

...why would liberals want to decimate the birth rates of their most trusted constituents...?


49 posted on 01/19/2014 9:26:13 AM PST by IrishBrigade
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To: Innovative
Sometimes a “liberal Republican” (much as I don’t like them either) is the one who can give Republicans the majority.

Which accomplishes exactly what?

What you're shielding your eyes from, is the fact that the Republican party is in abject treason to the principles upon which it was founded.

A liberal Republican is just as much a statist supporter of Socialism as any liberal Democrat -- they're just quieter and more polite about burning the Constitution.

It is absolutely pointless to elect such people.

50 posted on 01/19/2014 9:28:01 AM PST by Windflier (To anger a conservative, tell him a lie. To anger a liberal, tell him the truth.)
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