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Lone Survivor and Insufferable Anti-American Self-Righteousness
Patheos ^ | January 15, 2014 | David French

Posted on 01/19/2014 9:17:04 AM PST by Hacksaw

As the war in Afghanistan winds down, and as the American public is increasingly “war weary” (a phrase I find fascinating since at any given time only 0.6 percent of Americans are in uniform, and the vast majority of Americans have endured not one single second of sacrifice for the war effort since 9/11), anti-military and anti-American sentiment may be rediscovering its Vietnam-era voice. The vehicle for the latest two minutes’ hate is a bit curious, however. Lone Survivor tells the story of a SEAL mission gone wrong and the resulting firefight where a small band of SEALs displayed remarkable courage under fire. But they showed more than courage. An act of humanity sealed their fate — the decision to free Afghan civilians that stumbled into their path. With their own lives on the line, they obeyed American rules of engagement, obeyed the laws of war, and conducted themselves with honor (with one SEAL posthumously awarded the Medal of Honor).

So how do some in the left-wing press write about this movie? Here’s L.A. Weekly:

"These four men were heroes. But these heroes were also men. As the film portrays them, their attitudes to the incredibly complex War on Terror, fought hillside by bloody hillside in the Afghan frontier with both U.S. and Taliban forces contributing to an unconscionably high civilian body count, were simple: Brown people bad, American people good."

(Excerpt) Read more at patheos.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: afghanistan; lonesurvivor; moviereview; specialforces
I'm even amazed the movie was made in the first place, given how anti American most of the movers and shakers in Hollywood are.
1 posted on 01/19/2014 9:17:04 AM PST by Hacksaw
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To: Hacksaw

I’m going to see it this week, even if I have to go alone.


2 posted on 01/19/2014 9:19:02 AM PST by Shimmer1 (Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference)
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To: Hacksaw

I’m going to see it this week, even if I have to go alone.


3 posted on 01/19/2014 9:19:02 AM PST by Shimmer1 (Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference)
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To: Shimmer1

Saw it and even posted a link on FR to the movie.
The ROE were incredibly stupid.
THAT is what got these men killed

Macrus kind of lucked out that the pashtun villager took him in.

FUBO! Barack Obama has these men wandering with no real backup.


4 posted on 01/19/2014 9:26:36 AM PST by mylife (Ted Cruz understands the law, and he does not fear the unlawful.)
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To: Shimmer1

I went and saw it yesterday with my 22 yo son. It is the most remarkable war movie ever made. And it will leave you SEETHING after watching our guys honorably following the ROE set out by our “commanders” and politicians. I’m still boiling mad about it.


5 posted on 01/19/2014 9:28:28 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: Shimmer1
I’m going to see it this week, even if I have to go alone.

I'm usually not one for movies given the junk that is usually promoted, but this would be one I would see. The last movie I saw was Vin Diesel's latest "Riddick" movie which the critics hated (too macho, etc...) and of course was a great movie.

Thank God for the internet - if the legacy media was my only news source I would wonder if everyone had gone full commie-lib.

6 posted on 01/19/2014 9:28:59 AM PST by Hacksaw (I haven't taken the 30 silvers.)
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To: Hacksaw

You know we’ve got the commie DemocRATS on the run when they have to throw the race card into a movie review. Communists are losers. They’ve always been losers. Eventually, the population figures out the game and the communists fall.


7 posted on 01/19/2014 9:31:17 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where are Holder's "po folks" getting the I.D.s to sign up for ObamaCare?)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

BTW: I find it ironic that “Lone Survivor” was pushed out of the number one spot this week by a black comedian saying, “You’re white! You’re white! You don’t fight!” Hmmmm.


8 posted on 01/19/2014 9:35:12 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where are Holder's "po folks" getting the I.D.s to sign up for ObamaCare?)
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To: mylife
The ROE were incredibly stupid.

I thought the planning was stupid. first as one seal said, it had too many moving parts. Secondly, why situate the team in an area where communications are blocked by a mountain?

9 posted on 01/19/2014 9:41:03 AM PST by oldbrowser (Obamacare will be the equivalent of Mao's Great Leap Forward)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom; mylife

good idea, I’ll take my 23 year old son.


10 posted on 01/19/2014 9:52:51 AM PST by Shimmer1 (Don't argue with an idiot; people watching may not be able to tell the difference)
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To: Hacksaw

identify the detractors , egg their houses


11 posted on 01/19/2014 9:54:02 AM PST by LeoWindhorse
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To: Hacksaw

To the left it is an outrage to portray anyone in the American military as patriotic, decent or brave. Thats why all military conflicts must be portrayed as motivated by racism or greed.


12 posted on 01/19/2014 10:01:16 AM PST by Brooklyn Attitude (Things are only going to get worse.)
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To: Shimmer1

Saw it.

The most heartbreaking part was when the Seals decided to let the three sheperds go knowing full well that they had just signed their death sentence.


13 posted on 01/19/2014 10:01:52 AM PST by 353FMG
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To: Hacksaw

Really “brown people bad America people good?”..did this guy watch the movie? It starts with talban killing “brown people” and its “brown people” that save that Lone Survive American.....The final shot is a real photo the of the Lone Survivor America and the brown person the save him ..


14 posted on 01/19/2014 10:02:00 AM PST by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: mylife

They had no back up.

The Rules of Engagement help them and us, the Pentagon gets some things right.

Americans do not willfully murder innocent unarmed kids and old men/non combatants.

People would not volunteer for a military that expects that.

Navy SEALs do not hold their lives as more sacred than those of anyone else.

Their job involves risk; their moral code is not like that of “The Reservoir Dogs”, murdering witnesses.

They would not endanger their souls, and they are working for the American government, regardless of journalists anti military inflammatory stance, the United States has a moral code, the military one dictated by experts at the Pentagon.

If journalists would care to point this out, fine, but the SEALs are not as dictated to by journalists as they are the military command.


15 posted on 01/19/2014 10:13:41 AM PST by stanne
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To: Hacksaw

Saw this awesome movie twice already.

Both time, I don’t a man in the room wasn’t crying about half way through the movie.

None of us stood up to leave until the credits finished.

Sobering.


16 posted on 01/19/2014 10:13:49 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: 353FMG

You know that part with the sheperds..the thing is, one of those three could as just as easily been the guy that save him in the end..that the bitch of making that call, you never know..

Truth is I would of tied them up and left them. Maybe take one with me to let go later once I’m near out to go back and save his buddys


17 posted on 01/19/2014 10:14:21 AM PST by tophat9000 (Are we headed to a Cracker Slacker War?)
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To: Shimmer1

See it my dear.

Take napkins.

I couldn’t finish my popcorn.


18 posted on 01/19/2014 10:15:10 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: 353FMG

Yep and before that “I care about you! I care about you and you too!”


19 posted on 01/19/2014 10:17:37 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

OK, no. Commanders are not evil and trying to kill their guys. Certainly not as a rule. Our guys were killed by the Taliban.

Any military guy needs to know that when he does his job, facing imminent death for our country, that he is not endangering his soul.

They were not going to murder those people, it was just a passing thought. The radios were expected to work. It was a bad mission.


20 posted on 01/19/2014 10:18:29 AM PST by stanne
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To: stanne

The ROE are set way above the commander level — politicians and top brass. The guys were pinned down by the ROE from the outset and worried about spending their lives behind bars if they looked out for the success of their mission and their own survival first.


21 posted on 01/19/2014 10:24:38 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: 353FMG

No, they did not know they were signing a death sentence. They expected to get extracted, as their commanders and the helicopter guys are just as good at their jobs as the SEALs are at theirs.

the helicopter guys went in there without security, the apaches, as time was critical. The apaches were sent on another mission, poor planning and logistics. The helicopter guys died trying to rescue the SEALs, just as dead as the SEALs, just as willing to face death as anyone else in the military.

But rules and moral code do not get put aside just to stay alive. Acceptance of death is part of it.

Murphy goes to make the radio call giving Marcus his ammunition. Marcus is arguing because he wants to be the one to go, but he knows Murphy has to be the one to go.

In hindsight the situation looks different. They didn’t expect the mountain on the other side, poor planning? But the non combatants do not get murdered for that mistake.


22 posted on 01/19/2014 10:24:51 AM PST by stanne
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

They weren’t worried about spending their lives behind bars. They were worried about spending their lives behind bars in the wrong.

I guarantee, any one of them would rather be dead with a posthumous Medal of Honor, which Mike Murphy has, and photos of his proud but sad mother holding it in the White House, than spend his life in prison for murder, facing God’s judgment for murder.

They weren’t contemplating the situation for safety and self preservation, they were contemplating whether it was murder. It’s easy for them to shoot a guy who’s aiming a weapon at them, but a moral dilemma to shoot an unarmed farmer, however evil his future actions may be.

They had to make this decision themselves, as they had no communication with the commander, who would have told them to do what they did do, and there would have been a helicopter waiting for them at the top, before the Taliban got to them.

They’re dealing with Taliban, they expect to get killed.

They were contemplating changing the mission, which they did just before letting the guys go, and changed it to extraction. The unforeseen enemy, was the second, higher mountain, prohibiting communication

The other enemy was that the Chinook had to go in without backup, and they did, likely knowing they could get shot down.


23 posted on 01/19/2014 10:35:15 AM PST by stanne
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To: mylife

Actually this incident occurred in 2005....GW Bush was POTUS.....but......at least Bush really loved the troops....Obama hates them, and could care less. He is more in love with “Pajama Boy”, “Richard Simmons”, Reggie Love, GLAAD, etc. And....you can blame the Democrat Party for forcing very restrictive rules of engagement on GW Bush!!! The “Benghazi” murders caused by Obama/Clinton tell you where the Obamabot, Democrat low life are coming from!!!

The good news is that this magnifcent movie continues to rock with another almost $30,000,000 “four day weekend purse”!!! Next week it will pass the $100,00,000 mark....amazing!!! Americans....get your butts out to the movie house and honor our military as they deserve to be honored and respected!!!

At least the senior Bush went to war to win!!! GW Bush defeated al Qaeda in Iraq. Obama & his Democrat dregs have handed our enemies, al Qaeda the entire Middle East and have never fought to win. My prayers and love go out to all military and public servants who lost their lives, were wounded, or mentally shocked in the “Obama War Farces”...and to all their families that have to suffer the ongoing pain while the Obama’s live it up in Hawaii on our tax money!!! But....that’s the America, Americans want today. Rome became that way, too!!! Rome...by the way...no longer exists!!!

Folks, do it...see that great flick...”Lone Survivor”!!!


24 posted on 01/19/2014 10:39:55 AM PST by JLAGRAYFOX ( My only objective is to defeat and destroy Obama & his Democrat Party, politically!!!.)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

They changed the mission, so, no, they were not worried about the success of it. They canceled it.

They never disregard ROE for self preservation.

If lower level guys went about setting ROE on the spot, no one of any moral character, who wants to be right with God, would join the military.

Survival is not more important than eternal destination.

Not for moral people.

The mentality that a Navy Lt. has better moral decision making than the top Brass is bigoted. It’s not true.


25 posted on 01/19/2014 10:41:53 AM PST by stanne
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To: FlingWingFlyer

I’m ready to see a movie where a white guy walks into a library and sees a black guy and says, “You’re black! You’re black! You don’t study!


26 posted on 01/19/2014 10:42:25 AM PST by Lil Flower (American by birth. Southern by the Grace of God! ROLL TIDE!!)
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To: Lil Flower

LOL!


27 posted on 01/19/2014 10:51:49 AM PST by FlingWingFlyer (Where are Holder's "po folks" getting the I.D.s to sign up for ObamaCare?)
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

This reinforces my opinion that this country will never complete its journey back to decency until a few of the more notorious members of the enemedia ruling class suffer the same fate as Julius Streicher.


28 posted on 01/19/2014 11:31:20 AM PST by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: Hacksaw

Just saw it last night...awesome!
And the review from LA Weekly is totally wrong because I had no idea of the whole story so the first half, I was hoping every rag head in the country would get it...
the second half made me stop the reaction and re-think my whole attitude...
once again, the lib press underestimates the people.


29 posted on 01/19/2014 11:52:06 AM PST by matginzac
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To: oldbrowser

Exactly right...
this wasn’t a routine patrol. It was a special op for a couple of high value targets (hope I’m not spoiling) which should have entailed 24/7 surveillance for instant extraction if any trouble.
No excuse for the lack of comms or helos for rescue...NO EXCUSE!


30 posted on 01/19/2014 11:59:05 AM PST by matginzac
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To: Brooklyn Attitude

That’s right...
it’s like, the movie makes the Talis out to be “bad guys” just for propaganda purposes.
Tell it to the Pearl family and the families of 3000 US citizens...among many Aphganies...


31 posted on 01/19/2014 12:01:57 PM PST by matginzac
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To: Hacksaw

“Brown people bad....”

The problem with the constant drumbeat of racism is that it has worked and continues to work in the electorate.

IMHO


32 posted on 01/19/2014 12:23:08 PM PST by ripley
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To: Hacksaw

These are reviews to tell the Marxists to boycott this movie and they will to keep their brainwashing clean.

Pray America is Waking


33 posted on 01/19/2014 12:56:11 PM PST by bray (http://www.braylog.com/id47.html)
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To: stanne

Good on ya. Agree with all.


34 posted on 01/19/2014 4:17:28 PM PST by sandboxshooter (Iraq, Afghanistan, War)
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To: sandboxshooter

Why thank you


35 posted on 01/19/2014 5:23:36 PM PST by stanne
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To: stanne
Any military guy needs to know that when he does his job, facing imminent death for our country, that he is not endangering his soul.

Thank you for your stout defense of the moral absolutes, in all of your comments on this Post! Semper Fi!

36 posted on 01/19/2014 6:43:08 PM PST by BwanaNdege
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To: BwanaNdege

Well, my dad was a marine. So I’ll accept that Semper Fidelis but with all humility


37 posted on 01/19/2014 9:15:03 PM PST by stanne
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To: Shimmer1
I’m going to see it this week, even if I have to go alone.

Saw it last weekend. Stone up, dude, or be prepared to embarrass yourself.

38 posted on 01/20/2014 4:22:08 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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To: lentulusgracchus

I don’t know what “stone up” means. Don’t cry? I’m a woman, so do I still have to “stone up”????


39 posted on 01/20/2014 6:02:21 PM PST by Shimmer1
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To: stanne

Dad did a good job. Much respect.


40 posted on 01/21/2014 12:48:50 PM PST by sandboxshooter (Iraq, Afghanistan, War)
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To: Shimmer1

Turn to stone.


41 posted on 01/22/2014 3:34:53 PM PST by lentulusgracchus
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