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First picture of nun who had baby when she didn't know she was pregnant
Daily Mail ^ | 1/18/2014 | Daily Mail

Posted on 01/19/2014 11:09:43 AM PST by Dallas59

This is the first picture of nun and new mother Roxana Rodriguez.

The 33-year-old woman, a nun with the order of the Little Disciples of Jesus, stunned her mother superior and local church chiefs after giving birth last week to a baby boy which she has called Francis, in honour of the current Pope.

Sister Roxana initially claimed to have no idea that she was pregnant and thought her labour pains were 'stomach cramps' when an ambulance rushed her to hospital in severe pain after being called by fellow nuns when she collapsed at her nunnery.

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Hanky Panky goin on....
1 posted on 01/19/2014 11:09:43 AM PST by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59
I don't understand why when we were told to be fruitful and multiply the Catholic religion prohibits it.

No disrespect for or to Catholics, I just don't get it.

2 posted on 01/19/2014 11:13:18 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Dallas59

Sheah, yeah, right!

And monkeys fly outta my a ss...


3 posted on 01/19/2014 11:13:29 AM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: Dallas59

Fits in real well with the continued attacks on the Catholic Church.


4 posted on 01/19/2014 11:13:33 AM PST by laweeks
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To: laweeks
Fits in real well with the continued attacks on the Catholic Church.

Alinsky tactics to be sure.

5 posted on 01/19/2014 11:15:09 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Dallas59

“The 33-year-old woman, a nun with the order of the Little Disciples of Jesus, stunned her mother superior and local church chiefs after giving birth last week to a baby boy which she has called Francis, in honour of the current Pope.”

Mother Superior jumped the gun


6 posted on 01/19/2014 11:15:37 AM PST by Oliviaforever
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To: Dallas59

“Sister Bertrille, what kind of trouble have you gotten into now?”


7 posted on 01/19/2014 11:15:38 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: Dallas59
Most babies kick the hell out of you...and they rock and roll and sleeping is difficult sometimes..

But it's all worth it and apparently she thinks so, too.

There is a phone call mentioned...and the nun was absolutely "mean".

8 posted on 01/19/2014 11:16:27 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Ever heard of MARRIAGE?


9 posted on 01/19/2014 11:16:38 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Sacajaweau

The “nun” broke her vows. She went back to El Salvador where she had sex with an old boyfriend. At that point, she should have not returned and pretended to be a nun.


10 posted on 01/19/2014 11:18:55 AM PST by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Dallas59

He who blanks nuns will later join the church.


11 posted on 01/19/2014 11:20:30 AM PST by Track9 (hey Kalid.. kalid.. bang you're dead)
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To: Innovative

Life of celibacy and other vows taken by nuns is not for everybody.

I may be flamed, but, if she violated her vows, perhaps she’s not cut out for the life of a nun. That doesn’t make her a bad person, or mean that she doesn’t value her faith. But it does seem that she had trouble keeping to her vows.

And she and her old boyfriend have brought a child into this world. Her and his first responsibility would seem to be to take care of their baby.


12 posted on 01/19/2014 11:21:11 AM PST by Dilbert San Diego
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To: Innovative

NO, can you enlighten me?

What I am asking is why part of the order prohibits the procreation....and MARRIAGE of those who participate in the structure of the Church? (ie Nuns and Pries

If you can answer that minus your snark, I’d appreciate it.


13 posted on 01/19/2014 11:21:42 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Dallas59

There was a TV show quite some years back, “I Didn’t Know I was Pregnant”.


14 posted on 01/19/2014 11:21:44 AM PST by Balding_Eagle (Over production, one of the top 5 worries for the American Farmer every year.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

err... Catholics until recently were criticised for having too large families and they are still criticized for being anti contraceptives...


15 posted on 01/19/2014 11:24:30 AM PST by Cronos (Obama’s dislike of Assad is not based on Assad’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I think it is because Jesus and Paul believed in it. Paul also said it was BETTER to be celibate - if you can take it.


16 posted on 01/19/2014 11:25:25 AM PST by impimp
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To: Cronos

I should have been more clear, I meant the order of the Church.


17 posted on 01/19/2014 11:26:51 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Innovative

Not for Nuns and Priests.


18 posted on 01/19/2014 11:27:39 AM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Shes not a Nun anymore.


19 posted on 01/19/2014 11:27:47 AM PST by right way right
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To: Dilbert San Diego
Well, there's the case of falling into sin and being forgiven. Satan attacks God's chosen ones and nuns certainly are in his sites.

Not completely disagreeing with you since you may be right.

20 posted on 01/19/2014 11:30:49 AM PST by Patriotic1 (Dic mihi solum facta, domina - Just the facts, ma'am)
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To: impimp

I thought scripture said it was better for a man to marry then it was to lust?

I learned a while back not to get involved in these conversations here, they’re too volatile.

It was stupid of me to get involved in this thread so I will gracefully leave before it get’s ugly.

God Bless all FReepers.


21 posted on 01/19/2014 11:31:01 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

Vows of chastity and obedience are voluntary. There are anglican nuns who I assume take vows of chastity. Chastity is different than celibacy. It’s a discipline, like fasting. As a mother of three and grandmother of one I can tell you that my prayer life when I was raising them was not as rich as it is now. A practicing Catholic if he were to be a priest and be married would practice NFP which while effective, usually results in relatively large families. Not a lot of time to minister to his flock. Our priest probably works an 80 hour a week. On holiday weeks I’m sure its longer. He routinely gets up in the middle of the night and goes to visit the sick and dying. He’s known for that.


22 posted on 01/19/2014 11:31:01 AM PST by Mercat
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To: Las Vegas Ron

“I don’t understand why when we were told to be fruitful and multiply the Catholic religion prohibits it.”

The Church has never prohibited it. Celibacy in service to the kingdom of God is voluntary and praised by Christ Himself.


23 posted on 01/19/2014 11:32:11 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: Dallas59

ah, I see how it happened now. the nun looks like a little boy.


24 posted on 01/19/2014 11:32:15 AM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: Dallas59

On one hand she broke her vow of celibacy, on the other, she did not use birth control. Seems like she’s batting .500. Cut this nun some slack.

Uh oh, where’s that heat coming from.


25 posted on 01/19/2014 11:34:23 AM PST by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of Obama’s America)
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To: impimp
It's based on Jesus words/teaching when asked by a widow which of her seven dead husbands would be her husband in heaven. Jesus answered her that she knew not (more words), those that are counted worthy of that life neither marry nor are given in marriage but are as the angels in heaven."

The calling to be celibate and chaste (assumed but not always observed) evidently is a higher calling. It is a tradition in both the east and west. In NT times bishops were required to have only one wife. So clergy were allowed to marry. Forcing celibacy in order to be a priest hasn't seemed to work very well in our times. In eastern orthodoxy priests can be married when they enter but not after, I think. And to be elevated to bishop, one cannot be married.

26 posted on 01/19/2014 11:35:21 AM PST by Aliska
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To: Mercat
Thank you Mercat, my question was of an inquisitive nature, and you took the time to explain a belief and side I was unaware of.

Thank you for the education!

27 posted on 01/19/2014 11:36:35 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: Las Vegas Ron
I'm going to jump into snark-infested waters and give you my reason.



The Pope is God incarnate and God can over-ride any previous commands. Think of the nuns as today's Vestal Virgins of yore.
28 posted on 01/19/2014 11:37:01 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: vladimir998
Wow: ! another virgin birth; another Queen of heaven

29 posted on 01/19/2014 11:37:17 AM PST by Uriel-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Your comment is absolutely spot on.


30 posted on 01/19/2014 11:38:58 AM PST by HarleyD (...one of his disciples, whom Jesus loved.)
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To: Dallas59

“she has called Francis, in honour of the current Pope. “

Can he account for his whereabouts last April?


31 posted on 01/19/2014 11:39:30 AM PST by PAR35
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To: Dallas59
The whole idea of nuns and priests being celibate is nonsense to me.

Humans are humans and according to the churches, God invented sex - for every living organism - not just humans.

It's not up to any ecumenical organization to try to undo that.

32 posted on 01/19/2014 11:39:37 AM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Las Vegas Ron
What I am asking is why part of the order prohibits the procreation....and MARRIAGE of those who participate in the structure of the Church? (ie Nuns and Pries

Let me try, and not necessarily from a cannonical viewpoint.

In the event a Pastor or other religious is considered 'available' (and for some, matrimony is no barrier), they are open to the complicating sin of lust, from within or through being the object of the temptations of others. While I am not saying that doesn't happen to some lesser degree, pastoral duties would be significantly less complicated by the absence of such, the ability to be more unbiased maintained, clique-ishness reduced, etc.

By eliminating that temptation the Pastor (Priest/Nun) can concentrate more on the community as a whole.

33 posted on 01/19/2014 11:41:19 AM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Dallas59

I am a bit confused. The article says she became a nun just last September. It also says that her “dalliance” occurred in March or April of last year in El Salvador while renewing a passport.

SO! Presumably she was NOT a nun at the time of this conception, correct? If so, then she didn’t break any vows at all that I can see? Perhaps I have missed something here?


34 posted on 01/19/2014 11:41:26 AM PST by battletank
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To: Dallas59
kate upton photo: Kate Upton Nun kate-upton-nun.gif

Maybe they'll rethink those nun swimsuits now.

35 posted on 01/19/2014 11:44:54 AM PST by Snickering Hound
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To: impimp

Oh my.

the level of discussion here has deteriorated.

Look up the Bible verse to which you are referring and put it into context.

And get the speaker correct.


36 posted on 01/19/2014 11:46:43 AM PST by stanne
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To: Dilbert San Diego
"And she and her old boyfriend have brought a child into this world. Her and his first responsibility would seem to be to take care of their baby."

Me thinks they should sneak in marriage vows before they open the second box of pampers.

37 posted on 01/19/2014 11:48:19 AM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: Uri’el-2012

“Wow: ! another virgin birth; another Queen of heaven”

Nope. I’m pretty sure this was due to old fashioned sexual intercourse. And there’s only one queen in God’s heavenly court and she’s already there - since the Assumption in the first century.

But if posting comments that make you look foolish make you feel better, by all means, continue.


38 posted on 01/19/2014 11:48:47 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: Dallas59

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hLLe7j_tKA

A touch too much,,,


39 posted on 01/19/2014 11:50:12 AM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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To: elkfersupper

“The whole idea of nuns and priests being celibate is nonsense to me.”

It wasn’t nonsense to Christ, however. That pretty much settles the matter then.


40 posted on 01/19/2014 11:51:49 AM PST by vladimir998
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To: Las Vegas Ron
No disrespect for or to Catholics, I just don't get it.

A mechanism imposed to keep legitimate heirs to clergy from claiming church property as inheritance.

41 posted on 01/19/2014 11:54:32 AM PST by Professional Engineer (I am not cynical. /s)
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To: Smokin' Joe
Thanks for your reply, Joe. I'm going to abstain from comment as I know from past experience hoe these threads turn out.

It's a shame too as I have many questions I would like to ask, just so I could learn and understand.

42 posted on 01/19/2014 11:55:58 AM PST by Las Vegas Ron ("Medicine is the keystone in the arch of socialism" Vladimir Lenin)
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To: vladimir998
It wasn’t nonsense to Christ, however. That pretty much settles the matter then.

Not exactly. There is supposed documentation that Christ consorted with known prostitutes. It is "biblical", by the way.

43 posted on 01/19/2014 11:57:27 AM PST by elkfersupper
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To: Dallas59

How nice of her to name the baby after the Pope. If she’s enough of a Catholic to name her baby after the Pope, why didn’t she obey her vows?


44 posted on 01/19/2014 11:58:45 AM PST by Nea Wood
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To: vladimir998
Celibacy in service to the kingdom of God is voluntary and praised by Christ Himself.

Celibacy is praised by Christ Himself

Really...?

I find that hard to believe...

Chapter and verse please...

45 posted on 01/19/2014 11:59:00 AM PST by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I think everything in your post makes perfect sense.


46 posted on 01/19/2014 12:00:37 PM PST by Tax-chick (I don't want to set the world on fire.)
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To: Las Vegas Ron

I don’t have all the answers, by any means, Ron, and this isn’t the Religion Forum, so stuff could get pretty ugly out there.


47 posted on 01/19/2014 12:02:10 PM PST by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Innovative

She didn’t break her vows. She took her vows in September. She was already pregnant at the time.


48 posted on 01/19/2014 12:03:45 PM PST by ladyjane
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To: elkfersupper; vladimir998

The Bible says he allowed a known prostitute to wash his feet.

Not sure about the “consorted” as that implies sexual relations. If you’re going to engage in blasphemy you might want to try better then “supposed documentation”.


49 posted on 01/19/2014 12:05:05 PM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Aliska
It's based on Jesus words/teaching when asked by a widow which of her seven dead husbands would be her husband in heaven. Jesus answered her that she knew not (more words), those that are counted worthy of that life neither marry nor are given in marriage but are as the angels in heaven."

This is one reason why I hope that there is no heaven or hell.

The last place I would want to spend eternity would be with my ex-spouses. Or with my dead parents and most of my dead relatives, by the way.

50 posted on 01/19/2014 12:05:19 PM PST by elkfersupper
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