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Syrian rebels accidentally decapitate the wrong man, ask for public for ‘understanding and forgivene
nationalpost ^ | | November 15, 2013 | Richard Spencer,

Posted on 01/19/2014 12:15:22 PM PST by dennisw

Militant Islamist rebels in Syria linked to Al-Qaeda have asked for “understanding and forgiveness” for cutting off and putting on display the wrong man’s head.

In a public appearance filmed and posted online, members of Islamic State of Iraq and Al-Sham, one brandishing a knife, held up a bearded head before a crowd in Aleppo. They triumphantly described the execution of what they said was a member of an Iraqi Shia militia fighting for President Bashar Al-Assad.

But the head was recognised from the video as belonging to a member of Ahrar Al-Sham, a Sunni Islamist rebel group that often fights alongside ISIS though it does not share its Al-Qaeda ideology.

After inquiries, an ISIS spokesman admitted he was Mohammed Fares, an Ahrar commander reported missing some days ago. This could not be independently confirmed, but in an earlier video of a speech by Mr Fares he bears a close resemblance to the severed head in the later video. The Syrian Observatory of Human Rights, which monitors deaths in the Syrian conflict, and several activists on social media, said that ISIS misunderstood comments that the man made referring to the Imams Ali and Hussein, the founding fathers of Shiism.

The ISIS spokesman, Omar Al-Qahtani, made reference to a story in which Mohammed said Allah would forgive a man who killed a believer in error. He said that Mr Fares had been injured and, thinking he had been captured by members of the Shia militia against which he was fighting, asked them to kill him in terms misunderstood by the ISIS members when in fact he meant taking him to hospital.

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1 posted on 01/19/2014 12:15:22 PM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw

ruh-roh Sucks to be the decapitated jihadi


2 posted on 01/19/2014 12:16:30 PM PST by dennisw (The first principle is to find out who you are then you can achieve anything -- Buddhist monk)
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To: dennisw

And that is why you should never cut off someone’s head.


3 posted on 01/19/2014 12:17:10 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: dennisw

ISIS spokesman: We’re sorry. Our bad.


4 posted on 01/19/2014 12:18:30 PM PST by servo1969
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To: dennisw

These barbarians are beyond belief, cognition or even humor. Just....shiite.


5 posted on 01/19/2014 12:21:01 PM PST by Safetgiver ( Islam makes barbarism look genteel.)
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To: servo1969

Defenistration happens.

A simple mistake anyone could have made.


6 posted on 01/19/2014 12:21:24 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: dennisw

I wonder if this voodoo religion actually proposes a punishment for cutting off the wrong guy’s head . . .


7 posted on 01/19/2014 12:22:52 PM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: tet68
A simple mistake anyone could have made.

Apparently the rebel thought he was captured by the regime forces, so he started saying things only a regime loyalist would say.
8 posted on 01/19/2014 12:23:50 PM PST by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: tet68

Remember kids, “KILL ME!” is NOT how you ask to go to
hospital.


9 posted on 01/19/2014 12:23:52 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: dennisw

10 posted on 01/19/2014 12:24:36 PM PST by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: dennisw

Oh sure. Celebrate diversity!!


11 posted on 01/19/2014 12:25:59 PM PST by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: dennisw
I hope people realize that NO ONE in this country has to worry ONE iota about the middle east. This behavior is typical. They screw each other so much and so badly that all we Americans have to do is stand by and watch the chaos.

I lived in Saudi Arabia five years and my American friends used to "worry" about me. It didn't take us long to figure out that WE were the safe ones. The ones in trouble were the local yokels...that was their home and they had NO escape.

12 posted on 01/19/2014 12:26:18 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: andyk

“Sorry” doesn’t quite cut it for the poor victim ...


13 posted on 01/19/2014 12:26:46 PM PST by mikrofon ("What Has Been Cleaved Cannot Be Uncleaved.")
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To: JohnBrowdie

It looks like it offers mulligans if it was an error in (urgggh) “good faith.”


14 posted on 01/19/2014 12:27:12 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

Oops, only 71 virgins for them.


15 posted on 01/19/2014 12:28:41 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: cloudmountain

Your story sounds odd, compared with what you have claimed in the past, that Muslims are broad minded. (Though relative prosperity might tone down their religious fervor, granted.)


16 posted on 01/19/2014 12:28:51 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: tet68

So 72 mulligans until a joyless eternity? ;-)


17 posted on 01/19/2014 12:29:22 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: dennisw

Man, I couldn’t begin to tell you how many times this has happened to me. Embarrassing as hell, but you get over it.


18 posted on 01/19/2014 12:29:44 PM PST by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: dennisw

Did they rape and stone his family when they complained?

Pray America is Waking


19 posted on 01/19/2014 12:30:27 PM PST by bray (http://www.braylog.com/id47.html)
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To: HiTech RedNeck

I kind of figure it’s one girl who’s a virgin
71 times, after that she turns into your mother in law.


20 posted on 01/19/2014 12:31:39 PM PST by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: dennisw
They need their own sign


21 posted on 01/19/2014 12:31:52 PM PST by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: bray

Christianity builds. Islam (at least the fundamentalist kind, if we are not talking about some tolerant, heterodox variant) destroys.


22 posted on 01/19/2014 12:32:17 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: dennisw; a fool in paradise; Slings and Arrows

In before I hate when that happens!


23 posted on 01/19/2014 12:32:55 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: tet68

No fair, Allah!


24 posted on 01/19/2014 12:33:15 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: mikrofon
“Sorry” doesn’t quite cut it for the poor victim ...

What difference, at this point, does it make? /HDRC

HF

25 posted on 01/19/2014 12:34:04 PM PST by holden
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To: dennisw

In the Muslim world, “giving head” has a whole different meaning.


26 posted on 01/19/2014 12:36:05 PM PST by fhayek
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To: fhayek

Ah, he took one for the team! He gets a virgin that the mistake maker loses.


27 posted on 01/19/2014 12:37:25 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: mikrofon

Oh, you!


28 posted on 01/19/2014 12:37:38 PM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: mikrofon
“Sorry” doesn’t quite cut it for the poor victim ...

... but presumably they meant well.
29 posted on 01/19/2014 12:41:03 PM PST by Chad_the_Impaler
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To: dennisw
Hey, we've got all the intelligence of a fence post. Please take that into consideration.

One has to wonder what would qualify as barbaric activity to these individual tyrants.

Nothing is out of bounds. They stone their own daughters if they are raped. They savagely mutilate their genitalia with the intent of making sure they can't experience an orgasm. They kill men, women, boys, and girls at will. They cut off the heads of people who merely think differently than they do.

So what is barbaric to them? Is it anything that they can think up that offends Mohammad?

Evidently getting raped offends Mohammad. Evidently breathing offends Mohammad. Evidently keeping your genitalia if you're a woman offends Mohammad. Evidently keeping your virginity passed the age of seven offends Mohammad. Evidently not having the exact same understanding of certain issues offends Mohammad.

The members of the religion of peace, behead others at will. Pray tell, what is worse than that, and yet these people have convinced themselves they are the Godly, and those who don't cut off other people's heads are the infidels.

Knocking out a 100 story plus building in New York is an honorable act, but retaliation is evil.

Raping a woman is okay. Being raped is a capital offense. Men can pick a seven year old child, and marry them. Now that is enlightened.

My God has wrath too, but at least there is some reason behind it that any sentient being could grasp and understand. What god would demand the life of a raped woman, as the reasonable and justified penalty? What god could demand her to forgo the most intimate of feelings she could experience with the man she loved?

I pity the followers of such a god, for that god would have to be evil incarnate.

30 posted on 01/19/2014 12:49:50 PM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero, and John Kerry is a mock-puppet!)
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To: dennisw

This, besides the specific stupidity of the incident, highlights a more basic defect of the Islamists strategy.
If they actually intend to win they should be taking prisoners and treating them well. That should encourage surrenders among their enemies. I gather that most of them, even in the leadership, aren’t in this to win. The war is the goal, not the victory.


31 posted on 01/19/2014 12:50:21 PM PST by buwaya
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Your story sounds odd, compared with what you have claimed in the past, that Muslims are broad minded. (Though relative prosperity might tone down their religious fervor, granted.)

My particular boss was not broadminded and I never said he was. He was EXTREMELY kind. He was unlettered and so developed an extraordinary memory.

I never did say that Muslims were broad minded either.

The religious zealots always seemed to be younger men.
During the beginning of the Muslim year, via the Muslim calendar, these Shi'ite Muslim young men would beat up on themselves in a frenzy of self-punishment. The Saudi government didn't like this and would send troops to beat the HOLY PIE out of them.


The Islamic calendar, Muslim calendar or Hijri calendar (AH)is a lunar calendar consisting of 12 months in a year of 354 or 355 days.
It is used to date events in many Muslim countries (concurrently with the Gregorian calendar), and used by Muslims everywhere to determine the proper days on which to observe the annual fast (see Ramadan), to attend Hajj, and to celebrate other Islamic holidays and festivals.
The first year was the Islamic year beginning in A.D. 622 during which the emigration of the Islamic Prophet Muhammad from Mecca to Medina, known as the Hijra, occurred. Each numbered year is designated either H for Hijra or AH for the Latin anno Hegirae (in the year of the Hijra); hence, Muslims typically call their calendar the Hijri calendar.
The current Islamic year is 1435 A.H. In the Gregorian calendar 1435 AH runs from approximately 3 November 2013 (evening) to 23 October 2014 (evening).

Most of Saudi Arabia is Sunni Muslim but the Eastern Province, right near the Arabian/Persian Gulf, happened to have a sizable Shi'ite population.

In town (Rahima) there were mutawahs that, we heard, got after foreigners who were inappropriately dressed. We never saw them. I looked for them, but the Saudis aren't people who LIKE to look for trouble. They would MUCH rather sit around, in their own gender, drink tea and talk for hours.

It was really WAY too hot to anything else.
Starting in April the air temperature would rise. It got to 117 degrees by mid summer. At the Gulf, where we lived, the water temperature AND humidity were 95 degrees and % respectively.

November was the only pleasant month.

During the three winter months, December-February, the area experienced the "hamzeens"--WIND blowing in from the north. It was cooler but the sky was FILLED with sand. Nasty weather all the time.

I was told that southeast Asia was the only place on the planet that had worse weather.

It rained for two hours ONE day ONLY in all the five years I was there. Two hours of rain in FIVE long years.
Dry, dry, dry.

32 posted on 01/19/2014 12:52:02 PM PST by cloudmountain
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Two hours of rain in FIVE long years. Dry, dry, dry.

You have such a great point that you need to go into digression?

33 posted on 01/19/2014 12:54:27 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: dennisw

Measure twice; cut once.


34 posted on 01/19/2014 12:56:57 PM PST by Studebaker Hawk (These geeks are a dime-a-dozen. I'm looking for the man with the dimes. Freddy Blassy)
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To: DoughtyOne

Islam often mirrors a warpage of Biblical mores.

“In principle” a raped Islamic woman could be acquitted, but the standard to acquit is ridiculously high (four male Islamic witnesses to the rape have to have warned the rapist not to do it).

Even the Old Testament system was kinder (two or three witnesses to a crime was needed — one witness and the accused went scot free).


35 posted on 01/19/2014 12:57:47 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: DoughtyOne
Raping a woman is not okay, EVEN if she's a foreigner.
If said male is caught, no matter if he's Saudi, American, European or third-world-sewer citizen, he goes to a place WORSE than Hell--a Saudi jail. (Shudder.)
They don't chop it off.

Heads get chopped off for murder.
Hands get chopped off for REPEATED theft.

There IS a women's prison for the Saudi women. Foreign women get sent home...HUGE loss for them, at the Saudis pay INDECENTLY high wages to Americans. Almost NO other women are over there to live besides American women.
I always considered myself a third gender because we got SUCH preferential treatment.

Saudi women control the marriage market. THEY decide who marries whom. Their bailiwick is the home. They have power. Don't kid yourself. Also, if said Saudi women are from monied families, smart, beautiful and nice they have it MADE. If they are poor, stupid, ugly and mean, they ought to give it up and move to Poughkeepsie.

36 posted on 01/19/2014 1:01:28 PM PST by cloudmountain
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Islam often mirrors a warpage of Biblical mores.
“In principle” a raped Islamic woman could be acquitted, but the standard to acquit is ridiculously high (four male Islamic witnesses to the rape have to have warned the rapist not to do it).
Even the Old Testament system was kinder (two or three witnesses to a crime was needed — one witness and the accused went scot free).

The standard for guilt or innocence is so high and warped that it makes NO SENSE to anyone else on the planet.

I think that what makes their world go round is money, power, status and fame. :o) Duh.

Did you ever watch Saudi T.V. and foreign Arab women singers? Those women were FAMOUS!
But, then, WHO in the world cares?

37 posted on 01/19/2014 1:05:22 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: HiTech RedNeck
You have such a great point that you need to go into digression?

Are you insinuating that I am verbose?
WHAT?!?! How DARE you!!

Major duh.

Is there a pistol to your head forcing you to read my verbocity?

But thanks. I do feel LESS chatty some days.

38 posted on 01/19/2014 1:08:21 PM PST by cloudmountain
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To: dennisw

Eeze fine

No prawluhms...

In Shala...

Go Denver!!!


39 posted on 01/19/2014 1:15:42 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: dennisw

Isalmist = Religion of Pieces.

One body piece here, one piece there.


40 posted on 01/19/2014 1:20:54 PM PST by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: dennisw

At least the wrong dog’s head didn’t get cut off...


41 posted on 01/19/2014 1:21:56 PM PST by C210N (When people fear government there is tyranny; when government fears people there is liberty)
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To: dennisw

Bearded savages cutting heads off other bearded savages? Should we feel sad?


42 posted on 01/19/2014 1:22:48 PM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: cloudmountain

Thanks for the mention.

My perceptions may be off base, but we read quite often about some woman who was stoned or put to death for offenses against them. I don’t read of men being put to death for doing something against them.


43 posted on 01/19/2014 1:29:17 PM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero, and John Kerry is a mock-puppet!)
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To: dennisw

LOL.
Oops


44 posted on 01/19/2014 1:32:56 PM PST by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: dennisw

He said that Mr Fares had been injured and, thinking he had been captured by members of the Shia militia against which he was fighting, asked them to kill him in terms misunderstood by the ISIS members when in fact he meant taking him to hospital.
= = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
Obviously he asked for it.

The group claimed they would behead 5 more people to make up for the one they mistakingly caused to lose his head.

They also vowed to keep trying till they got it right.

Kind of like the ‘guy’ found in a river in Mississippi wrapped in chains..
The Sheriff declared that
‘Jesse just stole more chain than he could swim with’...

Case Closed.


45 posted on 01/19/2014 1:35:44 PM PST by xrmusn (6/98 --Because you have your head up your arse doesn't mean you have to have a crappy outlook.)
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To: mikrofon

““Sorry” doesn’t quite cut it for the poor victim ...”

You have a sharp wit.


46 posted on 01/19/2014 1:52:27 PM PST by moovova
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To: C210N

Are you saying they got the wrong address?


47 posted on 01/19/2014 1:56:54 PM PST by Cold Heart
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To: cloudmountain

I don’t mind a million words if they’re to the point, sir/maam.


48 posted on 01/19/2014 2:00:20 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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To: dennisw; a fool in paradise

Syrian rebels: “Sorry, we musta lost our head!”


49 posted on 01/19/2014 2:00:51 PM PST by Revolting cat! (Bad things are wrong! Ice cream is delicious! We reserve the right to serve refuse to anyone!)
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To: Cold Heart

They wanted to cut off the head of an infidel dog, I think this means.


50 posted on 01/19/2014 2:00:59 PM PST by HiTech RedNeck (The Lion of Judah will roar for you if you give him a big hug and a cheer and mean it. See my page.)
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