Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

‘Merger of the Century,’ Combining America, Canada, Emerges as Quixotic Cause
The New York Sun ^ | January 18, 2014 | Conrad Black, Special to the Sun

Posted on 01/19/2014 10:15:37 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

My relations with my National Post colleague Diane Francis have had their ups and downs over three decades or so. We have gotten over some rough patches, including a period of a couple of years when her chief public conversational gambit seemed to be the moral imperative that I be sent to prison. But we had put that behind us well before I was, in fact, to her apparent regret, actually sent to prison, and our relations have been fine for years.

She is a very nice person and often an interesting business writer. And I have enjoyed reading her recently published book about a federal union between Canada and the United States, “Merger of the Century: Why Canada and America Should Become One Country.” I don’t agree with her conclusion, but neither do I recoil with horror at the idea and tremble with patriotic loathing and snarl “annexationist” at her as if it were the ultimate condition of moral turpitude.

I was for a time reviled in those terms by some of the traditional, leftist Canadian nationalists, though I was never an annexationist myself. After many years of fighting the very good fight with the Quebec separatists, I made the point that if Quebec prevailed with “sovereignty association,” and the rest of Canada was sorting out what to do next in national terms, a connection with the United States would be a good deal more appetizing than the fairy tale being peddled to the nationalist voters of Quebec by René Lévesque, Jacques Parizeau, and ultimately Lucien Bouchard: essentially a sovereign Quebec still receiving transfer payments from English Canada and basking in the full faith and credit of the Canadian treasury....

(Excerpt) Read more at nysun.com ...


TOPICS: Canada; Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: canada; conradblack; keystonexl; newyorksun; northamerica
Comments?
1 posted on 01/19/2014 10:15:37 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Will we get a discount on Maple Syrup?


2 posted on 01/19/2014 10:17:29 PM PST by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cowboy Bob

Or shale gas and oil?


3 posted on 01/19/2014 10:19:19 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Combine no. If Canada wants to join the U. S., fine.

We do not want to conflate our Constitution and laws.

Our Constitution remains our founding and governing document.

Our laws remain the laws on the books.

Canada’s provinces merely become states of the United States.

They then conform to the laws and structure our states abide by.


4 posted on 01/19/2014 10:20:08 PM PST by DoughtyOne (ZERO is still zero, and John Kerry is a mock-puppet!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
It would be a good thing, if they come in as states or as a territory like Puerto Rico. We would gain 35 million people, a lot of resources, and a lot of water.

I do't see this happening though, except for an extreme situation like a little ice age making Canada uninhabitable, ar an imperialist China.

5 posted on 01/19/2014 10:26:09 PM PST by Vince Ferrer
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

We need to remember that in Bush 43’s day there was talk of a “North American Union” of the United States, Canada and Mexico.

Think European Union with national sovereignty being chucked out the window. In the UK right now real conservatives are rallying around UKIP to throw off the chains of the EU.

I even remember a certain presidential candidate in 2012 whose birth name was “Willard” speaking of a “North American” solution to our energy problems.


6 posted on 01/19/2014 10:26:41 PM PST by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTH CARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

“I made the point that if Quebec prevailed with “sovereignty association,” and the rest of Canada was sorting out what to do next in national terms,”

I was in grade school in Vancouver when the 1995 referendum by the Quebecers to secede was made. I actually wanted those a-holes to GTFO out of canada because they’re the biggest whiners in the country.


7 posted on 01/19/2014 10:31:29 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Comments? “

Leave Quebec out of the deal, the Frogs can’t be a part of the deal. They’ve been screwing up Canada since it became a country. They are, like all French, insufferable prigs who need to be left in a corner by themselves.


8 posted on 01/19/2014 10:33:02 PM PST by vette6387
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

You don’t want the 2 nations to merge as a political entity, you’ll just have 30 million more Democrats. There should be an economic merger, like the EU states. Freer flow of goods and people. You might even see a northward exodus of progressives and socialists who can finally live out their Scandinavian socialist fantasies.


9 posted on 01/19/2014 10:33:14 PM PST by Mr. Blond
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: vette6387

Or move them to Louisiana to be with their cousins?


10 posted on 01/19/2014 10:35:11 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

The liberals would love this. Like annexing Britain or France.


11 posted on 01/19/2014 10:38:33 PM PST by Viennacon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
Fine with me. Under a US Constitution and you can just get rid of all those "free speech tribunals".

Hey! At least Barqui McSandtrap will get his 57 states.
12 posted on 01/19/2014 10:38:56 PM PST by 98ZJ USMC
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Viennacon
We're already halfway through a de facto merger with Mexico and Central America.
13 posted on 01/19/2014 10:41:13 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: vette6387

I skied up in Canada a few times. Great fun until some Frogs came along, skiied over our skies, cut in line, and start mayhem. The normal Canucks rolled their eyes and apologized. Alas for the poor frogs, we were from Joisey and gave them an ass whooping. There were no repercussions so I figured the locals were happy we did it. The same week we got into it with a Triad. It was an awesome brawl. Looked like a bad Kung fu movie. Tough little bastards unlike the Frogs. Bouncers broke it up and told us to get out of there because those guys would shoot up our room. Best trip of my life. Then I got married and was put out to pasture. Great memories and when they put me in the ground they will have to pry the grin off my face.


14 posted on 01/19/2014 10:51:16 PM PST by MattinNJ (It's over Johnny. The America you knew is gone. Denial serves no purpose.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

“Or move them to Louisiana to be with their cousins?”

Not the same kettle of fish. I’ve worked with the cajuns in LA, they are good folks who will treat you right and be your friend for life. Been to Quebec City too, no comparison.


15 posted on 01/19/2014 10:53:06 PM PST by vette6387
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

That’s more of a hostile takeover with Quisling elements handing us over, like Paul Shamnesty Ryan the bitch boy.


16 posted on 01/19/2014 10:53:46 PM PST by Viennacon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: vette6387

The Cajuns could learn ‘em some manners.


17 posted on 01/19/2014 10:55:18 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (Jealousy is when you count someone else's blessings instead of your own.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Do they want our President to become their Queen?


18 posted on 01/19/2014 10:57:55 PM PST by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: Cvengr

He is already Queen of America.


19 posted on 01/19/2014 11:18:14 PM PST by Kennard
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 18 | View Replies]

To: Mr. Blond

How come we are governed by a conservative administration and you just elected Obama for the second time, perhaps a merger might get America out of it current socialist death spiral.


20 posted on 01/19/2014 11:39:07 PM PST by albertabound
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: albertabound

First, I’m from Canada. Harper may be a conservative, by American standards I’m not sure, but it won’t last forever. Likewise, the pendulum will swing hard after Obama. Maybe we’ll both have conservative administrations, but Canada will still have single payer health care and Human Rights Tribunals.


21 posted on 01/19/2014 11:44:28 PM PST by Mr. Blond
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet
It would have to be a merger of two countries into… two or three countries. The divide in both is more-or-less between urban political machines/elitists, and everyone else. One long, skinny nation from Vancouver to San Diego, another likewise from Quebec to Miami, and the third basically everything in between after the malcontents from its cities depart for the "edges."

Not going to happen, but fun to think about in these days from which there is no real escape.

Mr. niteowl77

22 posted on 01/20/2014 12:02:07 AM PST by niteowl77 ("Well, THIS is a real predicament," he said.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

As most of us on this forum enjoy the musings of Mark Steyn, we would also gain the elegant insights of one Rex Murphy. Rex could fillet Mr. Obama effortlessly.


23 posted on 01/20/2014 2:17:21 AM PST by Artie (We are surrounded by MORONS)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Given our current condition what advantage would Canada gain from union with us? Bad deal for them; like a polished and well to do lady marrying a bankrupt self absorbed wastrel


24 posted on 01/20/2014 2:43:32 AM PST by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: vette6387

Never had so much fun as a Saturday night in Cameroon with Cajun neighbors. We got out of there around 4 AM.


25 posted on 01/20/2014 2:46:57 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners. And to the NSA trolls, FU)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

To: 2ndDivisionVet

Agreements and mergers are too messy. Wait until hunting season and just cross the border and finish the job we quit in 1812 for Pete’s sake.

This way the Quebec thing is solved - speak SPANISH!

And that should help our Global Warming Carbon Credit search enormously!


26 posted on 01/20/2014 3:38:01 AM PST by If You Want It Fixed - Fix It
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Jimmy Valentine
Bad deal for them; like a polished and well to do lady marrying a bankrupt self absorbed wastrel

Hey, now. There's no call to bringing the Kerry and McCain families into this!

27 posted on 01/20/2014 3:48:51 AM PST by Spartan79 (I view great cities as pestilential to the morals, the health, and the liberties of man. Jefferson)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Spartan79

We may have our difference and there are good a bad things on both sides of the border but putting them aside, should both countries decide to merge, we would become one hell of a great and strong nation.
Personally, I love the “Canadians”, they play great hockey.


28 posted on 01/20/2014 4:36:41 AM PST by Progov
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: vette6387; BipolarBob; mozarky2

*** they are good folks who will treat you right***

Our first plant manager here was THE MANAGER FROM HELL! A Cajun, who left all of us with a very bad impression of them. The other Louisianans were fine in comparison.

I saw a photo of that man not long ago. I jumped and quickly made a cross with my fingers (like in a vampire movie)to frighten his memory off.


29 posted on 01/20/2014 7:50:08 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 15 | View Replies]

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson