Skip to comments.Pitfalls of Immigration Reform (GOP Amnesty Summit starts 1/29 at luxury MD resort!)
Posted on 01/20/2014 6:09:43 AM PST by jimbo123
The GOP must steer clear of guest-worker programs and legalization without citizenship.
Two of the basic rules of democratic politics are: Dont hurt your allies, and dont give your electoral opponents a weapon to use against you. As House Republican leaders prepare to announce their immigration principles near the end of this month, they should be aware of both rules. Two policies they are considering endorsing legalization without citizenship and a massive increase in guest-worker visas could sabotage the GOPs standing with its base while also closing off future electoral roads.
Legalization without citizenship would split the base and offer few political dividends with the center. The driving force behind many Republicans skepticism about an immigration deal is not a fear that illegal immigrants will be granted citizenship; it is a worry that legalization will be traded for empty promises of enforcement. Legalization without citizenship, then, may be too clever by half: It sounds like an equitable splitting of the difference, but it misses the real point of concern for many Americans.
Wednesday, January 8, 2014, 9:52 AM EST
Sen. Jerry Moran (R-Kan.) has introduced an amendment to the unemployment extension bill currently being considered in the Senate that would add up to 50,000 new green cards per year with no offsets .
Also, Obama WILL NOT enforce any provision of the law he thinks is "unfair".
How stupid can they be?
All during this push for Amnesty politicians have promised “strict enforcement” in some new law, yet each and every day they undermine existing law. Today, yesterday, the day before, and tomorrow, they will not enforce existing law. How can anyone have any confidence in some promised “strict enforcement” in the future?
Politicians have no credibility whatsoever.
Confidence building measures are required.
1) End enticements: no tuition discounts, no driver licenses, etc.
2) Enforce existing law: deport illegals on contact with police
These things must be done to build any confidence that any future law will be enforced.
Until enticements are ended and existing law is enforced any talk of “immigration reform” is DOA.
Interesting that the LA times did this.. Lou Dobbs reported this on CNN and it cost him his job. The only network we would see this on would be FOX.. All the others are staying away from it. Whether you are a Democrat or Republican this should be of great interest to you!
Just One State - be sure and read the last part..
This is only one State.................If this doesn’t open eyes, nothing will!
From the L. A. Times
1. 40% of all workers in L. A. County ( L. A. County has 10.2 million people) are working for cash and not paying taxes. This is because they are predominantly illegal immigrants working without a green card.
2. 95% of warrants for murder in Los Angeles are for illegal aliens.
3. 75% of people on the most wanted list in Los Angeles are illegal aliens.
4. Over 2/3 of all births in Los Angeles County are to illegal alien Mexicans on Medi-Cal, whose births were paid for by taxpayers.
5. Nearly 35% of all inmates in California detention centers are Mexican nationals here illegally.
6. Over 300,000 illegal aliens in Los Angeles County are living in garages.
7... The FBI reports half of all gang members in Los Angeles are most likely illegal aliens from south of the border.
8 Nearly 60% of all occupants of HUD properties are illegal.
9. 21 radio stations in L. A. are Spanish speaking.
10. In L.. A. County 5.1 million people speak English, 3.9 million speak Spanish.. (There are 10.2 million people in L. A. County .)
(All 10 of the above facts were published in the Los Angeles Times)
Less than 2% of illegal aliens are picking our crops, but 29% are on welfare. Over 70% of the United States ‘ annual population growth(and over 90% of California , Florida , and New York ) results from immigration. 29% of inmates in federal prisons are illegal aliens .
We are fools for letting this continue .
This is only one State...............If this doesn’t open your eyes nothing will, and you wonder why Nancy Pelosi wants them to become voters!
>> How stupid can they be?
Stupidity would produce random outcomes.
There is no randomness. When their actions pursue invariably the same Object it evinces a design of absolute Despotism.
They are not stupid, they are accomplices. “Fellow travelers”
The Uniparty (Dems and RINOs) is opposed to the interests of the United States and The People.
With all my heart, I wish I still thought it would make a difference....
I appreciate your trying......
I guess I am in a funk
I've taken the figures from the above table at cis.org and graphed them.
Note the sharp increase in immigration from Mexico and how that differs from all other regions' increase. Note also the sharp decline in immigration from Europe while all other regions have increased.
Roughly 63% of illegals are Mexican.
As of March 2010, 11.2 million unauthorized immigrants were living in the United StatesOur immigration policy must serve our needs, our ability to absorb, and immigrants' ability to assimilate. Creating large sub-societies serves no good purpose.
Then see Figure 2 at http://www.pewhispanic.org/2011/02/01/ii-current-estimates-and-trends/
Do the math.
Our security can not be conditioned upon the demands of unassimilated immigrants or illegally present foreigners.
These two don't sound like they would endear GOP to many (or any) Hispanics, but I am still curious what the Dems reaction would be to that.
BTW : my house member is Cummings and Senators are Mukulski and Cardin, so there is no point calling them.
You could call and ask Cummings how Amnesty will provide jobs for his numerous African American constituents who have been pulverized by the Obama Economy.
Its a thought. My experience with these calls is you never get anyone who admits to knowing anything, its always 'I will pass on the message'. So with someone like Cummings you know he wants more unemployment.
Of course you were probably the first to know that O Malley started giving illegals drivers licenses and in state tuition discount rates.
Look, serious talk here. This is what I think is actually going on:
The leaders of the United States, all of them, know that the show stops soon. The US will start defaulting and collapsing, like the Soviet Union did... and for many of the same reasons!
So, when those in power see these hard facts, when the globalist cabal says to them, “We will make you rich if you do our bidding,” they think, “Well why not? It’s not like America will be around much longer anyways.”
Thus, comes Amnesty.
Amnesty and Citizenship for Barbarians killed Rome, too.
Actually a much better approach is to call Dems like Cummings and demand that they reject any bill without full US citizenship and the vote, and add fixing the VRA too so the don’t have to show voter IDs.(just to pile on)
In other words hit them from the left.
calling them with Republican arguments is like talking to a busy signal.
I know you wont hear that on talk radio or from many here.
Well, this experience seems to differ. We spent ourselves into collapse. Now that the die is cast, the current leadership have their yachts and planes at the ready, and their unmarked, secret Swiss bank accounts filled.
They can vote any way they want now. They don’t care, they won’t have to answer for it.
Not in THIS life, anyways.
My congressman is a whacko moonbat leftist!!!! BRILLIANT!!!!
On today's to-do list.
Why do we have to pay for that? A military guy is allowed a certain amount for travel. 5 star? No
Insurance reimbursements for car rental., am I going to get a range rover? Or a limo with a driver? No
These guys ought to feel sleazy a d ashamed. We know they’re not paying out of pocket
They think they’re royalty. Dems know. THEY’RE royalty.
And they are attempting to legislate on amnesty as if we are subjects of theirs instead of what we really are; their employers
Republican politicians try to play amoral dictator like dems. But it never works. Dem voters will always support the democrat amoral (relativist) dictator over the republican one.
And there are not enough relativist republican supporters to keep these dopes in office, certainly not in the majority
Conservatives will not change their minds about the constitution. They are not going to forget about it, not any sooner than is a liberal going to give up keeping guys in power who support their desire for getting stuff, giving our stuff away to the needy and the pretend needy, and who allow them license to live an amoral life openly.
The only difference between them really, beside direction, is that the latter group has representation and, being amoral, they’ll get representation any way they can
But republicans are so stupid for trying to a t like Clinton and for pretending conservatives are irrelevant.
And staying at a luxury resort to hammer out a nation destroying legislation built on lies, deceit and ulterior motives is not representing conservatives
Rome spent itself into collapse, too. And the Roman ruling elites gave citizenship to the Barbarians in hopes of taxing them to pay for out of control spending. History repeats itself.
It’s not so much that history repeats but that human nature doesn’t change.
You can also use Jimbos idea with this.
Point out how this will just increase the inequality gap by pitting more workers at the bottom against each other, and they don't even get a vote to vote for minimum wage or paid sick leave. Tell them its sellout to greedy corporations (See?? It can be fun too!)
If you start talking conservative to real libs they tune out fast.
Ok, point well-made.
The Constitutio Antoniniana (Latin: “Constitution [or Edict] of Antoninus”) (also called the Edict of Caracalla or the Antonine Constitution) was an edict issued in 212, by the Roman Emperor Caracalla declaring that all free men in the Roman Empire were to be given theoretical Roman citizenship and that all free women in the Empire were to be given the same rights as Roman women.
According to Cassius Dio, the only Roman historian to talk about this edict, and with only one sentence, the reasons Caracalla passed this law were mainly to increase the number of people available to tax. In the words of Cassius Dio: “This was the reason why he made all the people in his empire Roman citizens; nominally he was honouring them, but his real purpose was to increase his revenues by this means, inasmuch as aliens did not have to pay most of these taxes.” It should, however, be noted that Cassius Dio generally saw Caracalla as a bad, contemptible emperor.
Well they might have to answer for it if they are still in the country when the SHTF.
“In questions of power, then, let no more be heard of confidence in man, but bind him down from mischief by the chains of the Constitution.” - Jefferson
can anybody show up at this summit? do you need ID to get in? ....all of the ironic possibilities...
Facts that need to be repeated, emailed, etc. - to friends, family and to Reps in DC!
Bonehead is not an idiot.
Johnny is the Utterly corrupt K Street Frontman ever to hold that position.
This Evil Crony Capitalist Bagman has lined his pockets along with stooge Ryan , Cantor, McCarthy, Issa, Gowdy ( yes , a huge Amnesty shill), .
They held phony IRS and Benghazi hearing that lead to nothing but hid there backdoor meeting with Billionaires and LaRaza ! This crowd deserves to be thrown in the cold Potomac.
well get angry and fired up
so I guess they won’t mind if people illegally show up and camp at the hotel and expect other people to pay for them... (snark)
Oh I will!