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The Perverted Science of Global Warming Gets Dirty(er)
Townhall.com ^ | January 20, 2014 | John Ransom

Posted on 01/20/2014 10:03:05 AM PST by Kaslin

Scientists have recently discovered that rough surfaces may actually reduce the amount of friction and drag after testing the hypothesis on the microscopic level.

“According to researchers at UCLA, rough surfaces lined with tiny ridges may actually reduce drag,” says the Science Recorder. “Modeling fluid flow between two surfaces lined with tiny ridges, researchers found tiny ridges actually reduce drag, allowing the for fluid to flow around in a more efficient manner….This is not the first time scientists have sought to create models based on rough ridges to reduce drag. However, advances in technology now allow scientists to create models on a microscopic level.”

Yes, but it’s the first time that the testing has been linked to global warming.

Of course by now we should know that EVERYTHING eventually relates to global warming.

Or income inequality.

So, anywho: Scientists says that by reducing drag on sea-going vessel less fuel will be need… and therefore…she’s a WITCH!

OK, not really.

But almost.

The scientists actually say since sea transport accounts for 4 percent of greenhouse gases, reducing drag will have “a substantial impact on global warming emissions,” because of the reduced fuel requirements with less drag.

Hey, when you are reaching for straws even a fraction of 4 percent reduction is a “substantial” amount-- especially when the Chinese are ratcheting up output of greenhouse gases way past the 4 percent mark.

And that is what confuses me about the science behind greenhouse gases and global warming, especially as it applies to policy.

Years ago I offered to shave my head bald and eat a can of dog food if someone—anyone-- could show me a credible scientific paper that demonstrates how the earth would cool even a fraction of a degree Fahrenheit by enacting a carbon tax here in the United States, such as the one proposed by the Democrats in 2009 and 2010.

I’m still waiting.

Because one would suppose that in policies promoted by properly-thinking, modern progressives-- who worship all things science— and have no time for mumbo jumbo about faith and religion, that at the very least they’d have data to support that their policies will cool the earth, solve world hunger, bring people out of poverty, improve education, create income equality, or pay female White House staffers commensurate with men.

OK, the last one was outrageous. Never gonna happen under Obama.

What was I thinking?

At the very least, I was thinking that people like Ericynot, BoatBoy, DoctorRoy or Hillinger would enjoy me being bald and eating dog food.

Heck, I’d even make a video of it.

But the problem remains: Sea levels aren’t rising, storms aren’t nastier and more brutish. The only science that’s being done is the type where estimates are used where data is called for and predictions are being used instead of conclusions.

Stumped by the fact that temperatures are not accurately reflecting current climate “models”- in fact temperatures have remained stable for 17 years- scientists on the government gravy train are trying to tie any weather event to so-called climate change.

Or income inequality. Which really?Aren’t they the same things?

Hurricanes? Global warming.

Tornadoes? Global warming?

Drought? Global warming?

Blizzards, dropping temperatures, meteorites, Big Gulps? Global warming.

Last year I documented how researchers made up a map showing how vegetation could change in the arctic because of global warming.

The map, no lie, was called the “most accurate map” ever produced of its type.

A long last, scientists have revealed the single most important document ever, I wrote.It’s a crayon-colored map showing how “trees” could grow in the arctic.

If finally, mercifully, any one of the so-called “climate models” that so far have failed to “model” climate accurately, suddenly and then accurately begin to “model” climate in real time, then, well, WOW!

“Experts say the wooded areas in the region could increase by 50% over the coming decades,” writes the UK’s Daily Mail, “and accelerate global warming in the process. Researchers have unveiled the most accurate map ever (!) of how vegetation could change in the region.”

In the meantime,ThinkProgresshas published a remarkable paper calledArctic Sea Ice Death Spiral And Cold Weatherthat proves, or at least,says- same thing if you are a liberal - that globalwarmingis to blame for …coldweather in Germany.

Stumped by the fact that temperatures are not accurately reflecting current climate “models”- in fact temperatures have remained stable for 17 years- scientists on the government gravy train are trying to tie any weather event to so-called climate change.

Even homosexuality has been tied to global warming via population control.

“With the natural world on the brink of demise largely because of overpopulation,” G. Roger Denson, a self-appointed social theoretician wrote on the Huffington Post,“unrestrained homosexuality, as one of a variety of ethical and democratic measures available to us today, offers perhaps the most natural option to be enjoined.”

Unrestrained gayness?

Seriously?

Going in through the out door with another man doesn’t seem “the most natural option to be enjoined” in trying to cool down the earth’s atmosphere.

But in the interest of fairness if G. Roger Denson wants to produce an actual scientific paper proving me wrong, I got a can of dog food and clipping shears here waiting.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Culture/Society; Editorial
KEYWORDS: climatechange; climatechangefraud; globalwarming; globalwarminghoax; junkscience

1 posted on 01/20/2014 10:03:05 AM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
--“Modeling fluid flow between two surfaces lined with tiny ridges, researchers found tiny ridges actually reduce drag, allowing the for fluid to flow around in a more efficient manner….--

--I thought everybody already knew that the dimples on a golf ball make it go farther---less "drag"--

2 posted on 01/20/2014 10:14:33 AM PST by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: rellimpank

—I thought everybody already knew that the dimples on a golf ball make it go farther-—less “drag”—

Would strategically placed dimples on aircraft wings also reduce drag ?


3 posted on 01/20/2014 10:22:02 AM PST by Zeneta
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To: Kaslin

Dry dog food tastes like dirt.


4 posted on 01/20/2014 10:22:47 AM PST by buffaloguy
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To: Zeneta

Remember that a golf ball is most likely spinning, whereas a wing, even on a helicopter, is relatively stable to the air.


5 posted on 01/20/2014 10:27:44 AM PST by onedoug
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To: Kaslin

Sheer idiocy.

Reducing drag on ocean going vessels (or, more importantly aircraft, or for that matter automobiles and trucks) is a good idea because it reduces operating costs — well provided the cost of the coating or other surface preparation which does it is low enough that the operating cost reduction over the life of the vehicle exceeds the increased initial cost when calculated on a present value basis.

But I guess it’s easier to sell such things to economically illiterate lefties by telling them that it will “save the planet”.


6 posted on 01/20/2014 10:32:19 AM PST by The_Reader_David (And when they behead your own people in the wars which are to come, then you will know...)
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To: Kaslin
“According to researchers at UCLA, rough surfaces lined with tiny ridges may actually reduce drag,” says the Science Recorder.

I guess none of these yahoos know why a golf ball has dimples.
7 posted on 01/20/2014 10:33:29 AM PST by stylin19a (Obama -> Fredo smart)
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To: rellimpank

Venturi effect


8 posted on 01/20/2014 10:37:06 AM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: Zeneta

Yes, but part of that “drag” is lift.


9 posted on 01/20/2014 10:41:08 AM PST by dangerdoc (I don't think you should be forced to make the same decision I did even if I know I'm right.)
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To: Kaslin

Reduced drag = less fuel consumption AT A GIVEN SPEED. FAIL

Reduced drag = potentially higher speeds = SAME amount of fuel burned to reach destination sooner = lowered turn around times = same amount of fuel burned. WIN for shippers; FAIL for AGW nuts.


10 posted on 01/20/2014 10:44:21 AM PST by ApplegateRanch (Love me, love my guns!©)
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To: Kaslin
“Experts say the wooded areas in the region could increase by 50% over the coming decades,”

Which, were it true, would actually be a good thing.

11 posted on 01/20/2014 11:09:16 AM PST by marron
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To: Kaslin

The science of hydrodynamics has known that a rough surface such as a primer painted surface on a planing hull is faster on boats than a waxed smooth surface. This has been known for MANY years. ALL globull warming science is neither science nor global... it is just organized criminals scamming the entire Earth’s populace! Hence... GLOBULL!


12 posted on 01/20/2014 11:14:36 AM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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13 posted on 01/20/2014 11:20:15 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Kaslin
I read the Daily Mail daily for laughs. I spent a couple of months in the Northern UK in the early 80’s. Even on the best days the weather sucked, The coldest winter I ever spent was a Summer in Newcastle, the beer was good though.

Now I read in the Mail that the weather has returned to 1311 and natures cycle repeats.

14 posted on 01/20/2014 11:41:39 AM PST by Little Bill
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To: Kaslin
I read the Daily Mail daily for laughs. I spent a couple of months in the Northern UK in the early 80’s. Even on the best days the weather sucked, The coldest winter I ever spent was a Summer in Newcastle, the beer was good though.

Now I read in the Mail that the weather has returned to 1311 and natures cycle repeats.

15 posted on 01/20/2014 11:41:52 AM PST by Little Bill
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To: Kaslin
The scientists actually say since sea transport accounts for 4 percent of greenhouse gases, reducing drag will have “a substantial impact on global warming emissions,” because of the reduced fuel requirements with less drag.

Typical liberal lunacy. Look, if it is economical to do this to ship hulls, it will be done. By "economical" I mean that it will save you more money than it costs to do within a reasonable period of time.  It takes a lot of fuel to power a large ocean-going vessel. If operators believe they'll see significant savings from it, you can bet they'll do it. I notice the article doesn't mention how much drag is reduced, which tends to make me think the amount is trivial to the extreme.

It's probably not enough to be worth the trouble as a retrofit, but perhaps it's something that could be designed into new ships. Reduced drag = lower lifetime operational costs, and perhaps even increased speed.

16 posted on 01/20/2014 11:52:03 AM PST by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
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To: Kaslin
A small fraction of 4% is a big deal?
Enviro nuts across the board can't see the difference between a big problem and a small problem.
Or in this case, the difference between a problem and a non-problem.

17 posted on 01/20/2014 11:53:38 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Kaslin
If shippers can safe fuel, they will. Hence the bulb in the front of most modern ships.
When it becomes cost effective to texture the hull, they will.
Until then, keeping barnacles off and corrosion down is more important.

18 posted on 01/20/2014 11:54:26 AM PST by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: Kaslin

Back around 1997 we had a very warm winter. I noticed the Jonquils coming up on Jan 5 of that year.

It is now Jan 20, and no Jonquils have poked their heads through the ground yet.

We still got Feb and Mar to contend with.


19 posted on 01/20/2014 11:56:29 AM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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20 posted on 01/20/2014 12:31:59 PM PST by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (...)
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To: zeugma
If operators believe they'll see significant savings from it, you can bet they'll do it. I notice the article doesn't mention how much drag is reduced, which tends to make me think the amount is trivial to the extreme.

Maybe drag is reduced in sterile saline solution, but the problem with any ocean going vessel is that the hull stays clean at a microscopic level for about a second or two after it's put in the water. After that, algae and plants would fill any microscopic dimples on the ship hull to the point that any improvement in efficiency would be as imaginary as models of global warming. At least that's my prediction, based upon all available data, estimates, models, and hockey sticks I have at my fingertips.

21 posted on 01/20/2014 1:04:21 PM PST by FateAmenableToChange
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To: stylin19a

Golf ball dimples provide drag, and due to the back-spin there is more underneath than on top. Air flows faster over the top (less drag), and Bernoulli’s theorem shows that pressure goes down when air (or fluid) velocity goes up.

This pressure differential provides lift that keeps the ball in the air longer.

Jeweled (deliberately roughened) surfaces on metal can hold lubrication better, which DOES reduce friction.


22 posted on 01/20/2014 1:29:44 PM PST by CPO retired
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To: ApplegateRanch

Reduced drag = sounds homophobic to me.


23 posted on 01/20/2014 1:55:25 PM PST by SgtHooper (If at first you don't succeed, skydiving is not for you.)
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To: Kaslin

“Scientists have recently discovered that rough surfaces may actually reduce the amount of friction and drag after testing the hypothesis on the microscopic level.”

Anyone, who has ever used machinists’ gauge blocks, knows that very smooth metal sticks to other very smooth metal. The stickiness is at the molecular level, and it can be very difficult to separate two pieces of very smooth, flat metal.


24 posted on 01/20/2014 2:00:49 PM PST by USFRIENDINVICTORIA
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To: FateAmenableToChange
Maybe drag is reduced in sterile saline solution, but the problem with any ocean going vessel is that the hull stays clean at a microscopic level for about a second or two after it's put in the water. After that, algae and plants would fill any microscopic dimples on the ship hull to the point that any improvement in efficiency would be as imaginary as models of global warming. At least that's my prediction, based upon all available data, estimates, models, and hockey sticks I have at my fingertips.

True enough. I was thinking of it from a theoretical point of view. Having spent a summer scraping and repainting the bottom of a 38' sail boat way back in the dark ages, I'd have to agree with your assesment of the marine environment. I figure barnacles take about 30 seconds or so to appear even with the very expensive paint we had to use.

Oh, and how much freaking teak can you actually put on a boat? OMG.

25 posted on 01/20/2014 2:24:03 PM PST by zeugma (Is it evil of me to teach my bird to say "here kitty, kitty"?)
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To: CPO retired

great explanation

i was thinking more along the the baser lines of this(and yes I know the article talking about fluids)

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/22/mythbusters-golf-ball-like-dimpling-mpg/


26 posted on 01/20/2014 4:20:45 PM PST by stylin19a (Obama -> Fredo smart)
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To: BitWielder1
The 'drag' on a hull comes from water 'sticking' to the surface.

Other things (barnacles and corrosion) add to it.

BUT , what if you had something the keeps anything from sticking to the surface , especially water ?

Well, it's already available. Think of what it would do to minimize the noise of PROPS on SUBMARINES and eliminate CAVITATION. Think of the added speed it would give to any kind of boat.

The product is called NEVERWET. Watch this video.

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27 posted on 01/20/2014 5:53:39 PM PST by UCANSEE2 (I forgot what my tagline was supposed to say)
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To: Kaslin

Bump


28 posted on 01/21/2014 5:46:03 AM PST by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger than yours)
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