Skip to comments.The Minnesota starvation experiment
Posted on 01/20/2014 11:12:53 AM PST by Sawdring
In 1944, 26-year-old Marshall Sutton was a young idealist who wanted to change the world for the better. As a conscientious objector and Quaker, he refused to fight in the war but he still craved the chance to help his country.
"I wanted to identify with the suffering in the world at that time," he says. "I wanted to do something for society. I wanted to put myself in a little danger."
That danger came, unexpectedly, in the shape of a small brochure with a picture of children on the front.
"Will you starve that they be better fed?" it asked. It was a call for volunteers to act as human guinea pigs in a medical experiment at the University of Minnesota.
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There once was a farmer who decided he could save money and increase efficiency by getting his horse used to eating less and less every day. So he steadily decreased the daily rations given to the horse.
The experiment would have worked too, if the horse didn’t die on him.
What is fascinating is that the diet that they were eating - low in fat, low in protein, high in carbohydrate.
Exactly what the government is recommending for “healthy” weight loss.
For them, it lead to depression, insanity, and self-mutilation. On 1800 calories/day. Far more than is recommended by many of our “safe” weight-loss diets.
Well now we know who “ Billy Bob “I reckon” Thornton’s dad is...
If I don’t eat my peas... someone in Africa will starve?
The logistics never made sense when I was a kid and still don’t
Like Brad Pitt’s charity using non-chemical treated “treated” lumber with a 40 year warranty to build porches and decks in New Orleans. They said the lumber saves the environment.
After 3 years they are rotting.
My father in law was an AF POW in Poland when they were liberated by the Russians he weighed a 105#.
He was a legend in the PLAV, it was reported that most of the newly born children in North Central Poland, born shortly after the war were his.
You would think that if you didn’t eat your peas, demand would be lower and with lower demand the price should go down for the Chinese and enable a starving Chinese child to eat cheaper.
We need to launch a "Don't Eat Peas" petition and campaign
In the article it says when you starve you lose all sexual desire. Was his legend status before or after he entered the camp?
He is Lithuanian, speaks Polish like a native. As my pal Big Al said one time, “You think I'm crazy and Mitch is your father in law, I'm not in the same league.”
indeed. Its all for Peace ya know
During WWII the Japs would allow some POWs to send a card home, saying they were well treated by their captors. One of the Bataan survivors wrote his folks saying that he was indeed, well treated, and now weighed almost as much as cousin Jimmy. Cousin Jimmy was 14 and weighed 110 pounds.
“...conscientious objector and Quaker, he refused to fight..”
SOB. He should be made to enlist and at least work in the rear in support or the like; otherwise, deport that ba$tard—anywhere.
I think you were supposed to APPRECIATE that you had peas to eat while children in Africa, China, etc., were starving. It wasn’t that your eating somehow would prevent their hunger.
I was a kid, it was confusing... :p
Interesting story. I’ve been reading a lot of WWII books lately. Quakers were mentioned several times for outstanding work as combat medics.
That wasn’t lumber. It was a composite material, essentially particle board.
Like pretty much all such composite wood materials, it doesn’t react well to moisture, I don’t care what it’s treated with.
This was a perfectly valid scientific experiment, with the laudable goal of determining how best to help victims of starvation recover.
Some of the comments here are odd. There was no political slant to these experiments and the participants were all volunteers.
I don’t think I could do that to myself if I had access to food at home or at work. I agree with your sentiment, but don’t you just start feeding people that are starving and let nature take its course?
The idea was to determine what the physical and psychological effects of starvation were and how to address them most effectively.
It’s been known for a loonnnggg time that if starving people are just suddenly permitted to start eating all they want, many of them will die.
Gus Hall was a Finn from Minnesota. That’s right, folks! Minnestoopid gave us the longest running Commie candidate for President. Now we have a Commie in the White House.
I knew a nephew of Gus’ in Minnesota who told me a funny recollection. He said the family could always tell when Uncle Gus was about due in town by the sudden appearance of telephone repairmen, up on utility poles at various locations and in local coffee shops where Gus was known to visit.