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And When I Die
Townhall.com ^ | January 19, 2014 | Bruce Bialosky

Posted on 01/20/2014 1:25:59 PM PST by Kaslin

There is a subject that I don’t really think about and don’t really want to – dying. But I recently turned 60 years old and know that, not being 18 years old, dying is sooner for me than for someone that age. So I spent some time struggling with the issue.

Part of the reason I have not focused much on the subject of death is because of my religion. Sure I have had my losses -- grandparents, mother, father, brother and friends -- and as a Jew we honor our deceased loved ones with a prayer near the end of every religious service – The Kaddish. But I am thinking more about what happens to me. After all, I only know being alive in this world. Even though I am quite happy with my life and all the joys I have had, my question became: “Is this all there is?”

I spoke to a favorite Rabbi about the subject. He educated me as to why we as Jews don’t focus on an afterlife. He said many people believe that Judaism does not believe in the afterlife, but he stated they were not accurate. He said while some might believe otherwise, Judaism doesbelieve in the afterlife though the religion focuses on life on earth and what you do while you are here. That is where the emphasis has been placed.But the Talmud speaks of “The world to come.” In essence there is a hereafter and your soul returns to God.

But that is a belief and the problem is what do we really know? I first spoke to Betty Ferrell, the author of ten books, who has been doing palliative care (in short, taking care of very sick people) for 30 years. She stated she has spent time with about 1,000 different people at or near death. Ms. Ferrell spoke of how often those people were communicating with someone from the past who had died. She had witnessed hundreds of apparent communications with people in the afterlife.

Yet that has its limited value to skeptics and gave me only marginal comfort. There are countless books about near-death experiences and people coming back from beyond describing their personal connection with the hereafter, but one has grabbed people more than anyone else – written by Dr. Eben Alexander.

Dr. Alexander has been a noted neurosurgeon for over 25 years. He was truly a man of science and not much of a religiously observant person until he had his own near-death experience which he details in his book, Proof of Heaven.

Out of nowhere Alexander contracted a rare illness. He was in a coma for a week and his loving family was being advised by his medical team (as you can imagine he had the best care one could get) that it was time to pull the plug. The part of his brain that controls his thought and emotions was gone. Then out of the blue he awoke. Over an extended period of time his full memory returned and he became fully cognizant in all aspects and has returned to his prior life.

In his book Dr. Alexander vividly describes his near-death experience and his life in the world beyond. His retention of his cross over into the afterlife is quite detailed. But the more important part of the book is what this previously non-believer did after reawakening from his coma to confirm to himself that what he remembered was not just a dream or in some other form non-real. He did a complete medical analysis and consulted with multiple experts on brain activity.He concluded that his brain was completely shut down; and, therefore, he had to be in the afterlife.

I interviewed Dr. Alexander.When asked what has changed for him since his book was published, he told me he now participates in organized religion. The heart of the interview focused on the naysayers about his account since his experience has become well-known and his book a bestseller. He stated “Critics don’t seem to have read the book.” They apparently are not citing what medical evidence Alexander presents in the book. He revisited with me his scientific efforts to disprove that he had visited the afterlife and he still concludes he cannot disprove it.

Dr. Alexander described such a wonderful existence in the hereafter I had to ask him why he came back and whether he has thought about going back to the other side. He told me that he came back and remains here because of his family and particularly his young son (he has an older son becoming a doctor) who he feels still need him.

All this has led me to examine my own thinking about what will happen to me. I know that I am healthy and look forward to many years on this planet. I have had a wonderful life and remain confident I will have many years of that same wonderful life or even better. But back to where I started -- all I know is this world and it seems such a shame that I will only have another 15, 20, or 30 years to enjoy the beauty of being – to share time with my wonderful wife, children and friends, to read books or to listen to music, to go to a Broadway musical or see a baseball game.

I don’t know if there is an afterlife, but I sure hope there is and I hope it as wonderful as what was described by Dr. Alexander. I do know that I don’t plan on finding out for a long, long while. And when I do, Laura Nyro will be my guiding light:

I'm not scared of dying,
And I don't really care.
If it's peace you find in dying,
Well then let the time be near.
If it's peace you find in dying,
And if dying time is near,
Just bundle up my coffin
'Cause it's cold way down there.
I hear that its cold way down there.
Yeah, crazy cold way down there.

Chorus:

And when I die, and when I'm gone,
There'll be one child born

In this world to carry on,
to carry on.


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1 posted on 01/20/2014 1:25:59 PM PST by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin
My Lord and Savior can take me anytime He wants. I have no fear of death. I'm ready.

I do, however, have a fear of pain.
But that is fleeting in most circumstances.

2 posted on 01/20/2014 1:30:39 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it." - George Orwell)
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To: Kaslin

I read the Dr. Eben Alexander’s book, “Proof of Heaven”. It is stunning. I know it convinvced me. Unless he is a deliberate, almost pathological liar (and a neurosurgeon with a practivcce and a reputation to protect would simply not do that) then he has made his case!


3 posted on 01/20/2014 1:34:05 PM PST by 2harddrive
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Blood Sweat & Tears - And when I die

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rjMB0JotHM


4 posted on 01/20/2014 1:34:37 PM PST by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

My fear is going before all my kids are out and established. After that I don’t fear it either.


5 posted on 01/20/2014 1:37:04 PM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
You betcha.

And at my age, I don't even mind the pain...just let me outta here and buh-bye Obama!

6 posted on 01/20/2014 1:37:15 PM PST by RoosterRedux (The only true wisdom is in knowing you know nothing -- Socrates)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Amen.

My husband narrowly escaped being killed on Saturday. He was putting gas in his Jeep, and heard the screaming of tires coming in his direction. He jumped out of the way just before a car driven by an elderly lady hit the pumps and his Jeep. She was trying to avoid a drunk driver who was heading toward HER.

The owner of the store told my husband that the video shows him leaping out of the way at the last instant. I really do believe God pushed him, and I’m so thankful, but I’m still shaken up. This world is like a tightrope walk...we have to be ready to leave at any time.


7 posted on 01/20/2014 1:39:53 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

“My Lord and Savior can take me anytime He wants. I have no fear of death. I’m ready.

I do, however, have a fear of pain.
But that is fleeting in most circumstances.”

It is interesting to me that life seems to prepare us for death. As a kid, I feared death. Now that I’ve lived, done some things, and experienced my body and my faculties deteriorating, I’m ready.

Similarly, my biggest fear is the exit method. Quick and painless please.


8 posted on 01/20/2014 1:42:05 PM PST by brownsfan (Behold, the power of government cheese.)
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To: Kaslin

Rel the Song; Both versions of ‘When I Die’ were great in their own way. Blood, Sweat and Tears had a rocking, take on that song. Their New Orleans / Dixie, with a little Blues sprinkled on top. It was a very masculine interpretation, with lots of bass, brass and a 4/4 rhythm (I think that’s the correct way to describe the tempo). Laura Nyro was a little lady with a big voice. Laura was a known talent early, having recorded some of her first work as a teenager. I have the Album with Laura singing many of her tunes, and covers for the rest. Laura’s backup singers were Patty LaBelle and the Blue Belles. Fantastic recording. A moment in time. Laura was one of the best songwriters, male or female of that time, although she was eclipsed and outshone by many who sang her compositions; i.e. The Fifth Dimension, who sang Laura’s Wedding Bell Blues, or Eli Is Coming, sung later by The Three Dog Night.


9 posted on 01/20/2014 1:44:22 PM PST by lee martell
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To: Kaslin

No fear Kaslin ... NO Fear!!!


10 posted on 01/20/2014 1:46:03 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: CatherineofAragon
Wow. Just wow. I hope everyone has settled down and is doing ok. Something like that can curdle your milk and leave you in a non-optimum state.

BTW...have you ever heard the piece "Catherine of Aragon" from Rick Wakeman's album The Six Wives Of King Henry VIII?
It is very closely related, thematically, to the piece "Annne Boleyn" on the same album...for obvious reasons. It's one of my favorites.

11 posted on 01/20/2014 1:48:28 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts ("The further a society drifts from truth the more it will hate those who speak it." - George Orwell)
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To: Kaslin
But that is a belief and the problem is what do we really know?

Well; there was this guy; about 1980 years ago that said...

12 posted on 01/20/2014 1:50:14 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CatherineofAragon
This world is like a tightrope walk...we have to be ready to leave at any time.

Hezekiah was told to put his house in order.

(I think his story is found in Jewish religious writings...)

13 posted on 01/20/2014 1:52:05 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
"Wow. Just wow. I hope everyone has settled down and is doing ok. Something like that can curdle your milk and leave you in a non-optimum state."

LOL, it sure can. Thank you. It really made us realize that we aren't guaranteed a single second more.

"BTW...have you ever heard the piece "Catherine of Aragon" from Rick Wakeman's album The Six Wives Of King Henry VIII? It is very closely related, thematically, to the piece "Annne Boleyn" on the same album...for obvious reasons. It's one of my favorites."

I have not heard it, but I'm going make sure I check it out. Thanks!

14 posted on 01/20/2014 1:54:31 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: Kaslin
Am going to share something which has been on my mind for a long time
Most here may already believe they know ...
Have been thinking of Revelations and here go my thoughts ...
One horseman, two horsemen, three horsemen, I believe are known ...
I do not know what/who is the fourth horseman ... unless it is to be an approaching moslim ...
but do see four riders approaching ...
One rider is obama.
Second rider is hillary.
Third rider is our own lame-stream media.
Fourth rider unknown.
Anti-Christ, though once thought was obama, is not but something or someone else.
These are my thoughts and Thought has retreated to Poland.
15 posted on 01/20/2014 1:56:10 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: no-to-illegals

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kdmw7VdFYjg

2 Timothy 1:7

For God hath not given us the spirit of fear;
but of power, and of love, and of a sound mind.


16 posted on 01/20/2014 1:58:25 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Kaslin
When my Grandmother was a little girl, travel from her rural home to the nearby town for supplies was a two-day trip with her “Pa” by horse and wagon, an adventure she always remembered with great pleasure. As she lay dying (in her nineties), her last words were, “It's Pa! And he's coming for me in the wagon!”
17 posted on 01/20/2014 1:58:59 PM PST by July4
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To: Elsie
"Hezekiah was told to put his house in order."

"(I think his story is found in Jewish religious writings...)"

Yep, I hope the author will find them...there's lots of learning to be had there.

18 posted on 01/20/2014 1:59:27 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: Elsie

It’s in the Bible.........Hezekiah was a good king. He cried and the Lord gave him another 15 years.................


19 posted on 01/20/2014 1:59:56 PM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: Elsie

Isaiah 38

New International Version (NIV)
Hezekiah’s Illness

38 In those days Hezekiah became ill and was at the point of death. The prophet Isaiah son of Amoz went to him and said, “This is what the Lord says: Put your house in order, because you are going to die; you will not recover.”

2 Hezekiah turned his face to the wall and prayed to the Lord, 3 “Remember, Lord, how I have walked before you faithfully and with wholehearted devotion and have done what is good in your eyes.” And Hezekiah wept bitterly.

4 Then the word of the Lord came to Isaiah: 5 “Go and tell Hezekiah, ‘This is what the Lord, the God of your father David, says: I have heard your prayer and seen your tears; I will add fifteen years to your life. 6 And I will deliver you and this city from the hand of the king of Assyria. I will defend this city.

7 “‘This is the Lord’s sign to you that the Lord will do what he has promised: 8 I will make the shadow cast by the sun go back the ten steps it has gone down on the stairway of Ahaz.’” So the sunlight went back the ten steps it had gone down.

9 A writing of Hezekiah king of Judah after his illness and recovery:

10 I said, “In the prime of my life
must I go through the gates of death
and be robbed of the rest of my years?”
11 I said, “I will not again see the Lord himself
in the land of the living;
no longer will I look on my fellow man,
or be with those who now dwell in this world.
12 Like a shepherd’s tent my house
has been pulled down and taken from me.
Like a weaver I have rolled up my life,
and he has cut me off from the loom;
day and night you made an end of me.
13 I waited patiently till dawn,
but like a lion he broke all my bones;
day and night you made an end of me.
14 I cried like a swift or thrush,
I moaned like a mourning dove.
My eyes grew weak as I looked to the heavens.
I am being threatened; Lord, come to my aid!”

15 But what can I say?
He has spoken to me, and he himself has done this.
I will walk humbly all my years
because of this anguish of my soul.
16 Lord, by such things people live;
and my spirit finds life in them too.
You restored me to health
and let me live.
17 Surely it was for my benefit
that I suffered such anguish.
In your love you kept me
from the pit of destruction;
you have put all my sins
behind your back.
18 For the grave cannot praise you,
death cannot sing your praise;
those who go down to the pit
cannot hope for your faithfulness.
19 The living, the living—they praise you,
as I am doing today;
parents tell their children
about your faithfulness.

20 The Lord will save me,
and we will sing with stringed instruments
all the days of our lives
in the temple of the Lord.

21 Isaiah had said, “Prepare a poultice of figs and apply it to the boil, and he will recover.”

22 Hezekiah had asked, “What will be the sign that I will go up to the temple of the Lord?”


20 posted on 01/20/2014 2:03:20 PM PST by Red Badger (Proud member of the Zeta Omicron Tau Fraternity since 2004...................)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I don’t fear death either but I do fear being incapacitated and not being able to take care of myself. My mother had a series of strokes and lived for 5 years and could do nothing for herself. I pray that when God takes me that He takes me quickly.


21 posted on 01/20/2014 2:04:45 PM PST by Ditter
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To: Kaslin

I’ve always focused more on the biological imperative of living.

Without an instinctive passion to live, or an instinctive fear of death, no complex life form could have survived on Earth until fairly recent times.

In other words, if “this” life was not the most important thing in “your” life, you would have no life at all for very long.

I’m 63, and it would be really nice to know - empirically “know” - what happens next.

But that’s not going to happen, so I’m going to die as quietly as I can, and try not to be a nuisance to anyone.

The physical decline makes me sad.

I’ve been a lifelong runner, but, regardless of dedication, the human body will slowly but surely erode away.

Anyway, wherever I end up, I just hope it’s going to be a fair fight.


22 posted on 01/20/2014 2:05:26 PM PST by zeestephen
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To: CatherineofAragon

Glad to hear he’s OK.


23 posted on 01/20/2014 2:06:12 PM PST by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
I have Idiopathic Pulmonary Fibrosis. This is a terminal disease for which there is no treatment. I am not afraid of dying either, but smothering to death isn't a great deal of fun.
24 posted on 01/20/2014 2:07:03 PM PST by Coldwater Creek (")
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To: Elsie

Amen Elsie ... Amen!!! May we have every day!!! And may those tears be washed away!!!


25 posted on 01/20/2014 2:09:50 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Elsie

NO to Sister Act one two or three or anything associated with Whoopie, seven abortions, Goldberg.


26 posted on 01/20/2014 2:11:12 PM PST by Mercat
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To: July4

In her last hours, my mother was laughing and joking with those who had already passed. Her last words were, “Open up this door, I’m coming in.”


27 posted on 01/20/2014 2:12:08 PM PST by Mercat
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To: July4
When my Grandmother was a little girl, travel from her rural home to the nearby town for supplies was a two-day trip with her “Pa” by horse and wagon, an adventure she always remembered with great pleasure. As she lay dying (in her nineties), her last words were, “It's Pa! And he's coming for me in the wagon!”

The story brought a tear to my eye, then again, I lost my mother on November 18th.

She had inflammatory breast cancer, very aggressive and triple negative (resistant to all chemo drugs) so it took her life. It spread to her brain and on the last day of her life, she went into a coma. I told her my goodbyes as she lay in bed and how much I loved her and thanked her for everything. I said to her, "I have to go, time to feed the kitties." I wasn't there when she passed, a side of me wishes I could been there but then again, maybe it would have been worse for me. Still, I felt good to say my parting goodbyes and so on. I'm sure she is in Heaven now with her sister, parents, friends and pets that have passed on. I miss her deeply but there are times I feel she is close to me and still "advises" and guides me when I ask for help.
28 posted on 01/20/2014 2:20:49 PM PST by Nowhere Man (Mom I miss you! (8-20-1938 to 11-18-2013) Cancer sucks)
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To: Georgia Girl 2

Thank you, Georgia Girl


29 posted on 01/20/2014 2:22:06 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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My prayer ... May we each go naturally.


30 posted on 01/20/2014 2:32:44 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Mercat

I’ll go there ... May have been a last for the Whoopie! That door on the Right Look Great!!!


31 posted on 01/20/2014 2:34:22 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts; caww; SZonian; Godzilla; MHGinTN; Tennessee Nana; Grig; restornu; Normandy; ...
Something like that can curdle your milk and leave you in a non-optimum state.

Indeed!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7GSZ3i5qwIQ
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b2pjdAFLsWw
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9f40wvJ5Lm0
 
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1nTI7ZWCBE8    Whosoever drinks the water that I give him; will never thirst again.
 
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0nJ6wQpLmuo   Come to me, all you who are weary, and I shall give you rest.
 
 
 

32 posted on 01/20/2014 2:35:51 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

It ain’t death. It’s dying.


33 posted on 01/20/2014 2:37:02 PM PST by onedoug
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To: Red Badger

2 Kings around chapter 20 also has the story.


34 posted on 01/20/2014 2:37:49 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Mercat

HE used a talking ass, He uses me (I hope!) and I’m sure that a Sinner like Whoopi can use a Touch of the Master’s hand as well!


35 posted on 01/20/2014 2:39:12 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Never - EVER! - give up on somebody!
36 posted on 01/20/2014 2:41:47 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

May we each be used for our Father and Son ... Amen!!!


37 posted on 01/20/2014 2:42:40 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Scrutinize our government and Secure the Blessing of Freedom and Justice)
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To: Kaslin

I died to self when I was Baptized, and for those in Christ there is no second death - no judgement. And I’m ready - any time . . .


38 posted on 01/20/2014 2:52:15 PM PST by impactplayer
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To: Kaslin

I died to self when I was Baptized, and for those in Christ there is no second death - no judgement. And I’m ready - any time . . .


39 posted on 01/20/2014 2:52:37 PM PST by impactplayer
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts
I'm Henry VIII I Am
40 posted on 01/20/2014 2:57:40 PM PST by restornu
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To: Elsie

In the Book of Hezekiah..

:)

actually 2 Kings 20:1, Isaiah 38:1


41 posted on 01/20/2014 2:58:20 PM PST by Tennessee Nana
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Exactly. I turn 60 very soon. The apostle Paul said to live is Christ and to die is gain.

I kinda look at it this way. Imagine this life is a video game you really, REALLY enjoy playing. SO you are in this video parlor playing your video game and one day you accept Jesus as your Lord and Savior. It’s like, while you are playing your game and trying not to get killed by the bad guys, or whatever, someone runs in and says, “Hey, some guy just dropped off a Bugatti and said it’s yours and you can drive it to the airport where your personal Lear Jet is waiting to take you wherever you want.

You love your game, but this may be a bit distracting. And when you DO get “killed” in your video game, it’s not exactly a disappointment as you run to your new car with keys in hand. :-)


42 posted on 01/20/2014 3:02:08 PM PST by cuban leaf
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To: impactplayer
I died to self when I was Baptized, and for those in Christ there is no second death - no judgement. And I’m ready - any time . . .

The Book says...


The dead were judged according to their works as recorded in the books.


Exodus 32:32-33
 But now, if you will forgive their sin—but if not, please blot me out of your book that you have written.”  But the Lord said to Moses, “Whoever has sinned against me, I will blot out of my book.
 

Daniel 12:1
 “At that time shall arise Michael, the great prince who has charge of your people. And there shall be a time of trouble, such as never has been since there was a nation till that time. But at that time your people shall be delivered, everyone whose name shall be found written in the book.
 
 
 
Philippians 4:3
 And I intreat thee also, true yokefellow, help those women which laboured with me in the gospel, with Clement also, and with other my fellowlabourers, whose names are in the book of life.
 

Revelation 3:5
He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels.
 

Revelation 13:8
And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world.
 
 
 
Revelation 17:8
 The beast that thou sawest was, and is not; and shall ascend out of the bottomless pit, and go into perdition: and they that dwell on the earth shall wonder, whose names were not written in the book of life from the foundation of the world, when they behold the beast that was, and is not, and yet is.
 
 
 
Revelation 20:11-15
"Then I saw a great White Throne and him who was seated on it. Earth and sky fled from his presence, and there was no place for them. And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before the throne, and THE BOOKS WERE OPENED. Another book was opened WHICH IS THE BOOK OF LIFE. The dead were judged according to their works as recorded in the books. The sea gave up the dead that were in it, and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them, and each person was judged according to their works.  Then death and Hades were thrown into the Lake of Fire. The Lake of Fire is the second death. If anyone's name was not found written IN THE BOOK OF LIFE, he was thrown into the lake of fire."
 
Revelation 21:27
Nothing impure will ever enter it, nor will anyone who does what is shameful or deceitful, but only those whose names are written in the Lamb’s book of life.

43 posted on 01/20/2014 3:02:44 PM PST by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Praise GOD that he is alright. I have felt the hands of an Angel save me more than once. I know that they are real. I would be dead otherwise.


44 posted on 01/20/2014 3:27:25 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (FROM MY COLD, DEAD HANDS! BETTER DEAD THAN RED!)
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To: LibLieSlayer
"Praise GOD that he is alright. I have felt the hands of an Angel save me more than once. I know that they are real. I would be dead otherwise."

Thank you, LLS, and amen. I agree with you. It's very true that God does send angels to protect us. I know of it happening in my family.

When something like that happens, you fall down and thank Him, before you do anything else.

45 posted on 01/20/2014 3:48:17 PM PST by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males----the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization.))
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

I also have no fear of death. My husband and other family members still need me, though, so I want to be here for them.

Ah, yes, the pain idea. I also fear pain. If I must die a painful death, I hope the Lord gives me the strength to be brave.


46 posted on 01/20/2014 3:48:58 PM PST by Bigg Red (O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! Ps 8)
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To: July4

...her last words were, “It’s Pa! And he’s coming for me in the wagon!”

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Many years ago, my mother told me about her father’s death. She was a very young woman, when my grandfather died at home, as most people did in those days, the 1920s. She told me that his last words were, “Mama and Papa”.

Years later, that story came back to me while I was doing some reading about people who have come back from near death experiences. So I suppose my grandfather was actually seeing his parents.


47 posted on 01/20/2014 3:55:35 PM PST by Bigg Red (O LORD, our Lord, how majestic is your name in all the earth! Ps 8)
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To: CatherineofAragon
I understand your thankfulness. Hubby just avoided having a 'widowmaker' heart attack this past summer. He had some discomfort, which felt really strange to him, so we took him to the ER. He had one artery that was completely blocked, and had been for a while, because it had begun to grow 'feeders', and another that was 95% blocked. Doc said it was only a matter of time before he'd had a fatal heart attack. Thank God we found it, so he was able to have a double bypass, and get it fixed! Another blessing was that he didn't have to have a vein taken from his leg or have to go on the heart-lung machine!

We know how very Blessed we are!

48 posted on 01/20/2014 4:09:46 PM PST by SuziQ
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It ain’t death. It’s dying.

The Native Americans didn't use the word death when one of their relatives/people 'died." They called it 'passing over" - designating their belief (acknowledgment?) of continued life in another realm.

Those who have had the 'other side experience' and came back describe it a wondrous place...I've often thought that we don't have a thorough knowledge of it because people might choose suicide much more often.

Thing is, with suicide, (taking a life you didn't create), doesn't seem to slip you into the wondrous place but into a limbo where you may be stuck for some time to come?

TAke the case of 'past lives coming through' under hypnosis - or 'ghosts' being contacted by psychics:

There is a common thread. they almost invariably died a violent (before their appointed time?") death, often through suicide or homicide due in part to their life style.

I am of the opinion that those stories are not from the person's past lives, but from people in limbo who can use the person's body - which is rendered incapacitated under hypnosis, or with contact with a psychic , to make themselves heard.

Suicide, to me, would be too risky - changing what we may deem a hard situation here to one as bad or worse from which we may not escape for a much longer time.

49 posted on 01/20/2014 4:20:19 PM PST by maine-iac7 (Christian is as Christian does - by their fruits)
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To: CatherineofAragon

Wow catherine! I’m really thankful that your husband survived that. And yes I do think it was the Lords grace!


50 posted on 01/20/2014 4:34:06 PM PST by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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