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Swiss Guard veteran claims existence of 'gay network' at the Vatican
Guardian ^ | 1/20/14 | Lizzie Davies

Posted on 01/20/2014 6:21:47 PM PST by madprof98

A former commander of the Swiss Guard, the small force of men whose job it is to protect the pope, has said there is "a network of homosexuals" within the Vatican, the latest in a series of claims about gay priests working at the heart of the Roman Catholic church.

Elmar Mäder, who was commandant of the Guard from 2002 until 2008, said his time at the heart of the Vatican had given him an insight into certain aspects of life there. "I cannot refute the claim that there is a network of homosexuals. My experiences would indicate the existence of such a thing," he told the Swiss newspaper Schweiz am Sonntag.

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A working environment in which the great majority of men are unmarried is per se a draw for homosexuals, whether they consciously seek it out or unconsciously follow an urge," he said.

"The Roman Curia [the Vatican's bureaucracy] is exactly this kind of environment."

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Mäder, while he said he did not have a problem with homosexuality, said he feared that a network or secret society of gay people within the Vatican could pose security problems. He added that he would not have promoted a gay man in the Guard – not because of his sexuality but because "the risk of disloyalty would have been too high".

Mäder said: "I also learned that many homosexuals are inclined to be more loyal to each other than to other people or institutions," he said.

"If this loyalty were to go as far as to become a network or even a kind of secret society, I would not tolerate it in my sphere of decision making. Key people in the Vatican now seem to think similarly."

(Excerpt) Read more at theguardian.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: catholic; holysee; homosexualagenda; homosexuals; romancatholicism; vatican
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To: madprof98

There were such allegations around the time of the Swiss guard murder/suicide case.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2057916/Pope-told-investigate-Vatican-murder-suicide-amid-claims-cover-up.html


21 posted on 01/20/2014 10:21:24 PM PST by BlackVeil
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To: madprof98

“Franco Grillini, chairman of Gaynet, added: “Statistically, gays are the least violent group in human society...”

Utterly, completely, and in all otherways false.

These fanatical extremists have to be called on this kind of lie.


22 posted on 01/20/2014 10:26:49 PM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Secret Agent Man

Whoa-ho-ho! Can you tell what agency you worked for?


23 posted on 01/21/2014 3:51:16 AM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: VerySadAmerican

One of the bishop’s the Pope assigned has already said being gay’s a sickness, & he said the Pope agrees with him,


24 posted on 01/21/2014 3:53:21 AM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: dsc

I was going to ask. Should have known your last line.


25 posted on 01/21/2014 3:56:56 AM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: ansel12

this “married” “unmarried” crap is a canard

Catholic marriage is for the purpose of creating and raising a family not for sex. In fact if a spouse uses to other to scratch their itch only, the “marriage” breaks down el pronto.


26 posted on 01/21/2014 4:58:05 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: andyk

no genius the problem is evil


27 posted on 01/21/2014 4:59:07 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: andyk

If you are so almighty smart, you should know to put a sarc tag on your posts


28 posted on 01/21/2014 5:00:17 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: AppyPappy

What drug are you on


29 posted on 01/21/2014 5:00:43 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: NetAddicted

I am guessing the military

gays were chaptered out


30 posted on 01/21/2014 5:01:57 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: yldstrk

Just sayin;’


31 posted on 01/21/2014 5:06:57 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: yldstrk

There was a time when we didn’t use sarc tags here.


32 posted on 01/21/2014 6:09:20 AM PST by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: andyk

One of the problems with sarcasm is that it is hard to discern when a comment is sarcastic.


33 posted on 01/21/2014 6:19:15 AM PST by yldstrk (My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: Salvation

I think it will take one hundred years to recover from the damage. And I am serious about that. Generations of lost priests, followed up by generations of young, inexperienced priests. It will take generations to fix this.


34 posted on 01/21/2014 6:24:31 AM PST by Vermont Lt (If you want to keep your dignity, you can keep it. Period........ Just kidding, you can't keep it.)
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To: madprof98
Mäder said: "I also learned that many homosexuals are inclined to be more loyal to each other than to other people or institutions," he said.

I had a gay relative in the entertainment industry. Gays prefer to work with other gays, will give fellow gays advance inside notice of employment opportunities, will watch out for each other, etc. Once an organization reaches a tipping point, it will quickly be dominated by gays.

35 posted on 01/21/2014 6:25:15 AM PST by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PGR88
such “networks” are a sign of rot and decadence. Its seen again and again, from Chinese dynasties to Rome to the Vatican.

Coming soon to the US military.

36 posted on 01/21/2014 6:25:30 AM PST by dfwgator
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To: VerySadAmerican

“Remember, he IS God’s representative on Earth so I’m sure God could give him a new verse”

If you’re going to say nasty things about Catholicism, it would be intellectually honest to learn something about it first.

‘A new verse,’ as you called it, is one of the things that the Holy Father is categorically, unconditionally, and in all other ways prohibited from producing.


37 posted on 01/21/2014 8:22:29 AM PST by dsc (Any attempt to move a government to the left is a crime against humanity.)
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To: Campion

I was talking about Joseph Smith’s edict.


38 posted on 01/21/2014 8:57:14 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: NetAddicted

Tell that to DSC.

From what I’ve read, and I’ve read it a lot, the Bible is very plain about not adding to or taking away from the Bible. That hasn’t stopped organized religions from doing it.


39 posted on 01/21/2014 8:58:24 AM PST by VerySadAmerican (".....Barrack, and the horse Mohammed rode in on.")
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To: PGR88

Yes..as Malachi Martin exposed, the devil has thoroughly infiltrated the religions of the world. And it is largely the ban on marriage for priest that is to blame in Catholicism.


40 posted on 01/21/2014 9:00:36 AM PST by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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