Posted on 01/20/2014 9:15:43 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
Constitutional law experts tell WND the IRS hasn’t stopped targeting conservative groups, including tea parties. It’s just trying a different approach, one that may be impossible to stop.
Many have heard of the president’s repeated promises last week to bypass Congress to accomplish his goals, saying “I’m going to act on my own if Congress is deadlocked. I’ve got a pen, to take executive actions where Congress won’t, and I’ve got a telephone to rally folks around he country on this mission.”
But another effort to fundamentally transform the American political system has gone little noticed and barely reported by the mainstream media, and it has many conservatives alarmed about its possible effect on elections and free speech, because they are virtually powerless to prevent it.
On Nov. 29, 2013, the day after Thanksgiving, the IRS quietly proposed regulations that critics say would drastically change the nature of elections and severely limit the power of conservative grassroots organizations, such as tea parties, by redefining what is considered tax-exempt political activity.
The proposal would change the rules for a type of tax-exempt political organization called a 501(c)(4), which typically engage in citizen education and grassroots lobbying....
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The original Tea Party folks didn’t have tax exemption.
;)
That’s that natural result of a lawless, self-serving government.
The people start ignoring its edicts and start getting things done in spite of it.
Yep, like I said in my other post,
” the original tea party folks didn’t have tax exemption..”
Why should we?
I’m thinking of that line from Wargames:
“The only way to win is not to play the game”
And part of the solution is in plain view.....
we are citizens of a free republic (whether 0 and his minions like it or not)
Break it down to cells like the French resistance. Small groups operating on their own but communicating with other groups.
Meanwhile, the usual moths from Congress....
HA! Do you really think that the republicans actually tried to do anything about this? They hate the tea party more than the democrats!
hahahahahahaa
funny. Pull the other one.
But they also did not have an income tax, so in a sense everybody was exempt back then.
Not playing the game would be nice, but also tricky. The IRS and the FEC play their side of the game while armed.
liability protection is the usual reason for having a corp.
“political organizing must not rely on the largesse of the government, but the dedication and committment of its believers and their willingness to back their ideas with their money. to heck with tax deductions”
Exactly. Also, I would think that if, for instance, the Tea Party, whatever that is, would have taxable income if they show a profit. I would think that if they did then “they” should pay taxes. But, why would such an organization ever show a profit? I’m sure no tax lawyer, but if at the end of the year the “tea party” has excess contributions left over wouldn’t that be income as far as the IRS is concerned?
Or, does 501 designation have nothing to do with taxable income?
If that is the case then, Never Mind.........
Tell Kimberley Strassel. She’s the one who reported it.
Yes, it’s like an unsuccessful coup. We just go forth and multiply in other ways. You can’t kill the truth.
If you get non-profit status, you don’t have to list your donors. One of the main reasons the Tea Party groups wanted to go that route.
However, if they just file as a political group - they will have to list all the names and the amounts donated .. which will require the group to compel people to donate .. just because they will not have non-profit status.
Does that clarify it ..??
As an aside .. are you really a “highlander” .. because I am. Mom’s family came from Scotland. Plaids are black watch and Royal Stewart.
My point was, why file any kind of status at all; for profit, non profit....
File neither one.
As for liability insurance, what exactly is going to be sued about?
If someone from a group says “go to media site A and see what candidate B said, and compare that to what the constitution says” is there anything candidate B can do?
We do it here all the time.
All it costs is our cablemodem/internet access, and we buy that anyway.
If people meet at a restaurant and pay their own way, no worries about somebody slipping on the sidewalk in front of the house.
(Side note to cyberant: yup I’m Highlander Scots on one side of the family also; clan Donald from the isle of Skye )
The Tea Party lives only in the minds of its members. It cannot be destroyed by mere tinkering with campaign finance laws. No matter what the Left tries, its opposition will always be there.
-— but if at the end of the year the “tea party” has excess contributions left over wouldn’t that be income as far as the IRS is concerned? -—
“Non-profits” hide their profits in high salaries and lavish digs. Harvard has a $30 billion endowment, yet doesn’t make a “profit.” It’s quite a scam. And it buys a lot of loyalty to the government.
I’m pretty sure it has to do with raising funds.
You have to be able to account for the money - if it’s for political activity.
but, the dems (in the IRS) are using the profit/non-profit status as a way of keeping the Tea Party repubs from raising funds and being able to keep their donor list private. The reason for keeping donors private is because the dems are known for harassing or targeting repubs who support the Tea Party groups.
As for “liability insurance” .. I don’t have a clue what was said about that .. it wasn’t included in my comments.
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