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Cops bloody old man — for jaywalking
NY Post ^ | 1/19/14 | Kevin Sheehan

Posted on 01/21/2014 3:39:26 AM PST by BigEdLB

Cops bloodied an 84-year-old man and put him in the hospital Sunday when he jaywalked at an Upper West Side intersection and didn’t appear to understand their orders to stop, witnesses said. Kang Wong was strolling north on Broadway and crossing 96th Street at around 5 p.m., when an officer told him to halt because he had walked against the light. Police were targeting jaywalkers in the area following the third pedestrian fatality this month around West 96th Street. Wong, who lives a block away, appeared to not understand the cop, the witnesses said.

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1 posted on 01/21/2014 3:39:27 AM PST by BigEdLB
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To: BigEdLB; Admin Moderator

You should figure that Drudge articles are ALWAYS already posted here — in this case at least twice already.


2 posted on 01/21/2014 3:42:15 AM PST by jiggyboy (Ten percent of poll respondents are either lying or insane)
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To: BigEdLB

Gosh! He has big yellow teeth - sorta like a horse on 59th Street!


3 posted on 01/21/2014 3:42:40 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: BigEdLB

They must’ve thought Mr. Wong was a pro-life Christian. They’ve been told by the governor himself they’re not welcome in NY.


4 posted on 01/21/2014 3:47:08 AM PST by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: BigEdLB

our heroes.


5 posted on 01/21/2014 3:56:31 AM PST by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: BigEdLB

Blaming this on the mayor is odd unless you are willing to blame anything a cop does on a public official. Considering all similar incidents by cops all over the country, this would be an indictment of all of the conservative mayors, as well.

I choose to blame the individuals who commit crimes.


6 posted on 01/21/2014 3:57:53 AM PST by sakic
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To: BigEdLB

Don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.


7 posted on 01/21/2014 4:23:34 AM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: BigEdLB

Once more the thugs in blue demonstrate what they REALLY think about citizens.

If it were up to me, I would dissolve every damn police force in the Country and replace them with marshalls, deputy marshalls, posses and a civilian militia.


8 posted on 01/21/2014 4:28:31 AM PST by ZULU (Magua is sitting in the Oval Office. Ted Cruz/Phil Robertson in 2016.)
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To: BigEdLB

Three pedestrian fatalities in the vicinity in the past month, and these officers were just trying to make it four.


9 posted on 01/21/2014 4:28:40 AM PST by BuffaloJack (Democrats believe in a two-party system—the masters and the slaves.)
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To: BigEdLB

Deadly force is justified against jaywalkers.

After all, we wouldn’t want them to get hurt or killed being hit by a car, right?


10 posted on 01/21/2014 4:30:19 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: WayneS
yeah, no dog/caged parakeet.....

11 posted on 01/21/2014 4:33:12 AM PST by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Caligula / 0'Reid / 0'Pelosi)
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To: BigEdLB

said one witness, Ian King, a Fordham University law student... “[The officer] stood him up against the wall and was trying to write him a ticket. The man didn’t seem to understand, and he started walking away.

“The cop tried to pull him back, and that’s when he began to struggle with the cop,” said King, 24. “As soon as he pushed the cop, it was like cops started running in from everywhere.”

So he wasn’t “bloodied for jaywalking”, he resisted and pushed a cop, according to a witness.


12 posted on 01/21/2014 4:33:13 AM PST by Hugin
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To: BigEdLB

Good thing he wasn’t walking his dog they would have shot that.


13 posted on 01/21/2014 4:33:17 AM PST by bikerman (Obama! if his lips are moving he's lying.)
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To: BigEdLB

The badgemonkeys are the “tip of the spear”....that tip needs blunting yes but more importantly the spear itself needs to be whittled down to size. That means summary
justice being served on the politicians, judges and petty bureaucrats that hold the leash on the JBT’s. The term used
in the old west was “vigilance committees”.....it’s time that term was resurrected and put back in to action.


14 posted on 01/21/2014 4:34:44 AM PST by nvscanman
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To: BigEdLB
Mayor de Blasio’s spokesman, Phil Walzak, said Sunday, “We won’t sit by while lives are lost and families are torn apart. These latest crashes underscore the urgent need to make our streets safer, which is why we are moving decisively to enact ‘Vision Zero’.”

With libs it's always "Vision Zero" because that's the intellect that spawned the vision.

15 posted on 01/21/2014 4:36:03 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Politics are just the rules - Power is the game!)
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To: Hugin

Silly you! Don’t you know you aren’t supposed to read past the headline! :)


16 posted on 01/21/2014 4:39:16 AM PST by CAluvdubya (Molon Labe)
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To: Hugin
Yes, he was a vicious 84-year old, non-English-speaking threat to our society and deserved every abuse he received and more.

Failure to comply will not be tolerated in our free society.

Do I need a < SARC> tag or did I miss yours?

17 posted on 01/21/2014 4:39:40 AM PST by Aevery_Freeman (Politics are just the rules - Power is the game!)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

No sarcasm. Are immigrants who don’t bother to learn English (though I’ll bet that doesn’t stop him from collecting Social Security) immune from obeying cops now? Just walk away, and if they stop you it’s abuse? Call the ACLU! Racism!


18 posted on 01/21/2014 4:46:08 AM PST by Hugin
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To: WayneS

Deadly force is justified against jaywalkers.

After all, we wouldn’t want them to get hurt or killed being hit by a car, right?

- - - - - - -

BTTT


19 posted on 01/21/2014 4:46:10 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Hugin

Well obviously he should have been shot. I’m sure the officer was in fear for his life.

Thankfully the cop made it home safely. Those 85 yr olds are dangerous!


20 posted on 01/21/2014 4:49:13 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Look, the guy was being written a ticket, instigated a scuffle, and got scraped up. Hardly deadly force.

Let me ask you, if you were in a foreign country where you didn’t speak the language, and a couple of cops put you up against a wall and started to write you a ticket, would you just assume you could walk away? Were the cops supposed to just watch him walk away? What should they have done?


21 posted on 01/21/2014 4:54:27 AM PST by Hugin
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To: Aevery_Freeman; Hugin

He could have been a Okinawan Grand-Master Kung-Fu Shotokan killing machine - cops can’t be too careful these days. They need to make it home at night you know.


22 posted on 01/21/2014 4:56:52 AM PST by NY.SS-Bar9 (Those that vote for a living outnumber those that work for one.)
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To: Hugin

No. Stopping/detaining a jaywalker is not abuse.

Clubbing an 84 year old man? THAT is abuse.

Any cop who cannot detain an 84 year old man without bloodying him and/or requiring the assistance of 2 or 3 additional officers, should turn in his badge.


23 posted on 01/21/2014 5:00:16 AM PST by WayneS (Respect the 2nd Amendment; Repeal the 16th (and 17th))
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To: Hugin

Thank you. That was a totally irresponsible headline and cover in the Post. Similar to the one they did of Wayne LaPierre calling him GUN NUT on the cover.


24 posted on 01/21/2014 5:00:43 AM PST by firebrand
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To: BigEdLB

Not for jaywalking. For resisting being physically detained. Not the same thing.

Can cops get it into their dense heads that a Chinese guy might not understand their English?


25 posted on 01/21/2014 5:03:57 AM PST by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible traitors. Complicit in the destruction of our country.)
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To: Hugin

My theory is that he had hearing impairment. Almost everyone his age has some. They tend to get in trouble simply because they don’t hear things.


26 posted on 01/21/2014 5:04:54 AM PST by firebrand
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To: jiggyboy
You should figure that Drudge articles are ALWAYS already posted here — in this case at least twice already.

But, but, maybe I didn't see it the first time it was posted, and I am so happy I had the chance to read it this time. After all, nobody around here reads stuff from drudge.

(Heck, I saw the grasshopper and the ant story posted here yesterday, for what, the 50th time now?)

27 posted on 01/21/2014 5:31:08 AM PST by T. P. Pole
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To: BigEdLB

Wouldn’t it be something if this old man is from North Korea and somehow escaped and made it to the US only to find himself now in the same situation thanks to the sub-human pieces of dog filth in that city who regularly vote in Marxists, despots and all around psychopaths for office?


28 posted on 01/21/2014 5:35:12 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: BigEdLB

“As soon as he pushed the cop, it was like cops started running in from everywhere.”

All law has tunnel vision..Not the Military,.... remember that..


29 posted on 01/21/2014 5:37:07 AM PST by riverss (Just Saying..)
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To: Aevery_Freeman

de Blasio’s real name is Warren Wilhelm so I always make it a point to call him that. Marxists have this thing about changing their name and I have a thing about calling them out on it. Then want to subjugate people to a political system responsible for 100 million deaths in the past 80 years, then I ain’t letting them hide, especially a blatant Marxist like Mayor Wilhelm.


30 posted on 01/21/2014 5:38:47 AM PST by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: Hugin

He was picked out of a crowd of people jaywalking. Something everyone in NYC does. He was probably thinking he hadn’t done anything wrong.

Any kind of force used against an 85 yr old has the potential to cause death. To risk this old mans life because of a stupid jaywalking charge is idiotic.


31 posted on 01/21/2014 6:32:15 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: driftdiver

Most likely had this man been black or Hispanic, he would not have been beaten up. Asians or whites do not start riots. Blacks and Hispanics do. The police are aware of this fact and act accordingly when they assert “authoriteh” in cities with large black or Hispanic populations like New York. Racial profiling indeed.


32 posted on 01/21/2014 6:36:53 AM PST by Wallace T.
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To: Hugin

84 year old people should be treated with respect. They may not be able to see, hear, or think clearly.

I don’t want to live in a world like this. I will resist heartless, impersonal, heavy handed government at every turn. A small government conservative can do no less. Small government means a weaker, less pervasive government. Small government means bigger individuals. Bigger individuals means more personal responsibility. Responsibility to take care of the people around us.

Jaywalking laws are designed to protect people, ensure safety, and make society better.

How does jacking up, beating up and ticketing an old man do any of that? Was he jay walking? Yup. If safety and a better society is the goal, and there are a crowd of cops around, get the guy safely across the street. Isn’t that the job? Isn’t the job to keep people safe? Or is the job taking money from old men, antagonizing citizens and beating the crap out them? Is the job handing out sanction or preserving life? What is the purpose of cops, traffic laws, courts, judges? Tell me, what is the purpose?

Is it to better society? Or are these laws just designed to flex municipal power? I can tell you what the purpose of these laws are. The purpose of these laws is whatever we make of them. Which do you choose? Safety and well being of society, or just flexing the muscles of city hall?


33 posted on 01/21/2014 6:38:14 AM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: sakic

Read the last paragraph of the article in which the mayor’s spokesman proclaims this new crackdown on jaywalkers.


34 posted on 01/21/2014 6:38:33 AM PST by tioga (Wise men still seek Him.)
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To: DariusBane

bttt


35 posted on 01/21/2014 6:39:53 AM PST by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: Hugin

Well, the old guy had a lot of blood on his face. If a cop can’t cuff an 84 year old man without having to bash him around, maybe he needs to go back to John Jay College.

New York jaywalkers will always be with us. Guiliani tried this stuff (I know, I was ticketed outside Saks Fifth Avenue - the cop was embarrassed writing it out) but dropped it when it didn’t seem to help.

Maybe the cops should be watching the drivers who are exceeding the speed limits and shooting through lights late at night. That might cut down on fatalities.


36 posted on 01/21/2014 6:50:02 AM PST by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: firebrand
Dementia? Old people with dementia often do not understand and process commands/instructins. Add that to a possible language barrier.

vaudine

37 posted on 01/21/2014 6:55:03 AM PST by vaudine
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To: Hugin
“Hardly deadly force”
-Hardly appropriate in a supposedly free society, either. Fortunately for this old gentleman, his son is a lawyer. These fine officers will be in court soon. You can contribute to their union defense fund.


38 posted on 01/21/2014 8:52:06 AM PST by FBD (My carbon footprint is bigger than yours)
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To: Wallace T.
Asians or whites do not start riots. Blacks and Hispanics do.

Americans used to stand up. Now, we are all cowering sheep.

Never thought I'd say it, but we could learn a lot from the '60s.

39 posted on 01/21/2014 11:42:11 AM PST by Forgotten Amendments (I remember when a President having an "enemies list" was a scandal. Now, they have a kill list.)
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To: DariusBane
84 year old people should be treated with respect.

An 84 year old should know not to assault police, which by all accounts he did. Looks to me like he got a small cut in the fight he started. A small cut can produce a lot of blood. From the responses here you would think they shot him.

As for enforcing jay walking, I've lived in other cities, and people cross all the time oblivious to traffic they are impeding. Occasionally someone gets hit and killed, and the driver who may not be at fault has to deal with that. The point of enforcing traffic laws is to make it safe for everyone. By your standard, speeders should just be given a police escort. That would make them safe, right? Personally I get sick of pedestrians and bycyclists thinking traffic laws don't apply to them. And if the guy is so confused he doesn't know when it's safe to cross the street, or that he can't just walk away from police custody, maybe it's not safe for him to be walking around NYC by himself.

There are plenty of genuine police abuse cases out there, and I've been very critical of them. This isn't one. The cops behaved exactly like they are supposed to behave. They were writing a ticket. They guy could have just waited a minute and walked away with the ticket. If he didn't understand that, it's his fault. If he didn't want to bother to learn our language and customs he shouldn't be here, no doubt living on your tax dollars.

40 posted on 01/21/2014 2:43:14 PM PST by Hugin
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To: Hugin

I would say most people agree with you. That’s why we live in the world we live in. It is a choice.

As far as this guy perhaps not being safe to walk around NYC alone. You are probably right about that. He sure got himself injured doing exactly that!


41 posted on 01/21/2014 2:58:46 PM PST by DariusBane (Liberty and Risk. Flip sides of the same coin. So how much risk will YOU accept?)
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To: tioga

I read it.

Please point to the passage stating that cops should bludgeon senior citizens for jaywalking.


42 posted on 01/22/2014 3:53:43 AM PST by sakic
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To: Hugin

How much “resistance” do you suppose an 84 year old man used in that scenario?

The greatest mistake the 84 year old made was supposing he lived in a free nation.

The officers beat and bloodied an 84 year old man because *they enjoyed beating a senior citizen*.


43 posted on 01/23/2014 1:49:32 PM PST by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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