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Poll: Wealthy, liberals unite to support increased immigration
Daily Caller ^ | 1/21/14 | Neil Munro

Posted on 01/21/2014 4:55:46 AM PST by jimbo123

A new poll shows that the wealthy and politically well-connected favor the sharp immigration increases that are included in pending House and Senate bills.

The immigration increases are opposed by the majority of lower-income and middle-income voters, and by political moderates and conservatives, according to the new Rasmussen poll of 1,000 likely voters. A plurality of African-Americans oppose the increases.

“The idea of importing millions of additional people to compete with American workers in the middle class is politically absurd,” said Mark Krikorian, director of the Center for Immigration Studies. Voters “aren’t stupid and they understand what the [immigration] proposals are designed to do,” he told The Daily Caller.

The stark class divide on immigration was highlighted by Rasmussen as House leaders, including Speaker John Boehner and Rep. Paul Ryan, prepare to push GOP legislators to back a package of far-reaching immigration bills.

They’ll use the Jan. 29-31 retreat in Cambridge, Md., to tout bills that would dramatically boost foreign competition for the blue-collar jobs sought by American voters, teenagers, graduates and unemployed.

In June, the Senate passed a bill that would triple the inflow of legal immigrants over the next decade.

The opposition to the bill is being led by reform groups, such as tea party groups, NumbersUSA and the Madison Project.

“We will not grow the party and win back Reagan Democrats by pushing the agenda of the corporate interests,” said Daniel Horowitz, policy director at the Madison Project. “Republican business interests are asking for a de facto maximum wage mandate with an unnatural and constant flow of cheap foreign labor.”

(Excerpt) Read more at dailycaller.com ...


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: aliens; amnesty

1 posted on 01/21/2014 4:55:46 AM PST by jimbo123
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To: jimbo123
RE “We will not grow the party and win back Reagan Democrats by pushing the agenda of the corporate interests,” said Daniel Horowitz, policy director at the Madison Project. “Republican business interests are asking for a de facto maximum wage mandate with an unnatural and constant flow of cheap foreign labor.”

And if the GOP cuts a deal with Dems on amnesty you can bet that Obama will get the credit and the GOP will be characterized as just wanting cheap labor for business, confirming the Dems 2012 top 1% themes..

2 posted on 01/21/2014 4:59:41 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: jimbo123

“..favor the sharp immigration increases ..” because they hate the US and want to maintain millions of US citizens unemployed to drag down the American way of life.


3 posted on 01/21/2014 5:03:31 AM PST by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: jimbo123

Soon there won’t be any more Somali Muslims left in Somalia as our insane central socialist government brings them all over here to suck up any resources leftover by the scum of Mexican society.

America is nothing more than a giant magnet that attracts all the undesirable elements of foreign societies. Unfortunately for American citizens their evil central socialist government has caused most of our manufacturing base to beat it out of town.

Oh, America still produces some candy, but Hershey has moved their manufacturing to Mexico making Hershey, Pennsylvania just a quaint place to visit. I am old enough to remember when each city of any size had a shoe factory and we manufactured our own clothing. At the end of WWII 2/3 of the world’s autos were manufactured in America and our steel mills, now rusting hulks, were the producers for a world market.

The entire fault lies with that evil central government and with the complicit Congress!


4 posted on 01/21/2014 5:06:01 AM PST by IbJensen (Liberals are like Slinkies, good for nothing, but you smile as you push them down the stairs.)
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To: jimbo123
Great. Thank you libs.

So every single person out there who is unemployed or underemployed - this is the liberal agenda. Oh, don't like the idea of a few million more people competing for your job? ... Welcome to the conservative movement. We want jobs for American citizens, not more immigrants.

5 posted on 01/21/2014 5:08:47 AM PST by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: jimbo123

Many liberals are wealthy themselves. The phony, hypocritical “limousine and Learjet” liberals. People like Kerry, Edwards, Gore, on and on and on.


6 posted on 01/21/2014 5:14:53 AM PST by ETL (ALL (most?) of the Obama-commie connections at my FR Home page: http://www.freerepublic.com/~etl/)
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It's a win win for the Lib Dems, that get more Democrat votes and further socialize America.
7 posted on 01/21/2014 5:17:00 AM PST by Machfour
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To: sickoflibs

Of course once the Democrats import a permanent majority, they can raise the minimum wage to $22 an hour, and there goes that cheap labor. The Chamber of Commerce screw themselves just like the insurance companies did signing onto Obamacare.


8 posted on 01/21/2014 5:26:10 AM PST by Hugin
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To: Hugin
RE :”Of course once the Democrats import a permanent majority, they can raise the minimum wage to $22 an hour, and there goes that cheap labor. The Chamber of Commerce screw themselves just like the insurance companies did signing onto Obamacare.”

That is exactly Dems plan on amnesty, I am with you 100% on that.

Chamber of Commerce also wants SS and Medicare min age raised to ~ 70, but mainly for far future retirees not current ones to try to avoid an election backlash (similar to Ryan scam). Libs see this as off the table completely.

That's a pretty unstable set of goals they have, but my guess has always been that they think delayed the new Americans voting will keep that from happening till they are retired.

9 posted on 01/21/2014 5:36:17 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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The obvious liberal agenda = plenty of gardeners, housemaids and nannies.


10 posted on 01/21/2014 5:49:20 AM PST by Liberty Wins ( The average lefty is synapse challenged)
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To: Hugin
Of course once the Democrats import a permanent majority, they can raise the minimum wage to $22 an hour, and there goes that cheap labor. The Chamber of Commerce screw themselves just like the insurance companies did signing onto Obamacare.

They don't care - thanks to the welfare state industrial complex, every additional immigrant is also a consumer with First World purchasing power. This is why Rick Perry had significant support from a grocery store operator and a construction magnate - to the tune of tens of millions of dollars in his PAC.

11 posted on 01/21/2014 5:53:05 AM PST by Zhang Fei (Let us pray that peace be now restored to the world and that God will preserve it always.)
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To: jimbo123

OK by me to let willing workers in, if we get to send an equal number of ghetto babymamas and sperm donors, plus methhead trailer trash to their countries of origin!


12 posted on 01/21/2014 5:57:41 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: jimbo123
Voters “aren’t stupid…

They elected Obama. Twice.

13 posted on 01/21/2014 6:19:59 AM PST by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: jimbo123
We think we know the motives of the liberals: to keep voting liberals into positions of power in government. But is that really their motive? Is their motive really only to favor what conservatives are against? And what about the wealthy? What is their motive?

We need to dig deeper to determine just exactly what their motives are in pushing immigration reform, not merely assume that we know why different groups are pushing for it.

14 posted on 01/21/2014 6:21:13 AM PST by Real Cynic No More (Border Fence Obamacare!)
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America needs JOBS.

Not immigration. JOBS.

Bring back America jobs.

Stop selling out, GOP. American jobs are needed now. For Americans.


15 posted on 01/21/2014 6:21:55 AM PST by Cringing Negativism Network ( http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: Liberty Wins; Hugin; jimbo123
RE :”The obvious liberal agenda = plenty of gardeners, housemaids and nannies.’

Liberal/GOP establishment maybe.

Progressives (like most of those on MSNBC) are looking for more troops to motivate into voting and protesting against greedy employers who have the nerve to hire them without a living wage, free heath care, paid sick leave, endless unemployment comp,
all stuff that if they have to pay by legal mandate defeats the whole purpose of having them as workers.

16 posted on 01/21/2014 6:23:29 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Liberty Wins; Hugin; jimbo123

BTW : that laundry list of demands on employers is what Maria Schriver is pushing now, she is trying to rally poor single Momsto protest and vote demanding that all those be put into law as employer mandates.

So its not a abstract list.


17 posted on 01/21/2014 6:26:48 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Hugin

Yep, Maria Schiver is rallying them to demand it.


18 posted on 01/21/2014 6:27:49 AM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: jimbo123

Poll: Liberals can’t find cheap house keepers.


19 posted on 01/21/2014 7:36:57 AM PST by Vaduz
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Cheap help for their home, elderly parents, and gardens. Liberal elites would sell out their country to save money on ‘help’... Jerkwads.


20 posted on 01/21/2014 8:14:22 AM PST by GOPJ ("Remember who the real enemy is... ")
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To: sickoflibs
Chamber of Commerce also wants SS and Medicare min age raised to ~ 70,

That idea is particularly irksome. Always proposed by high paid people who spent their whole career behind a desk. Try telling a carpenter or a waitress who've worked all their lives that they can't retire at 65, got to wait another 5 years. What would happen is people will retire and collect SSDI instead of regular SocSec. In fact, I'm convinced a lot of the increase in SSDI now is baby boomers who can't do physical jobs anymore.

21 posted on 01/21/2014 2:18:44 PM PST by Hugin
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To: jimbo123

Can we please retire the term “Reagan Democrats?” They are all pushing up daisies in McComb County cemeteries at this point.


22 posted on 01/21/2014 2:21:11 PM PST by Clemenza (Lurking)
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To: Hugin
RE :”That idea is particularly irksome. Always proposed by high paid people who spent their whole career behind a desk. Try telling a carpenter or a waitress who've worked all their lives that they can't retire at 65, got to wait another 5 years. What would happen is people will retire and collect SSDI instead of regular SocSec. “

I have made that exact point myself.

I went to a Hair Cuttery recently and the one who cuts it is a mom ~ 40s with three kids, originally from Korea. I asked her if she signed up for O Malley care and she told me she has no health insurance.

I try to imagine her trying to stand and cut hair all day when she is 67. Yep, SSI.

The thing that was obscene about Ryan's scam plan, which few bought, was he exempts everyone born after a certain year, zero cuts for 10 years, giving the full benefits to that group for the rest of their lives,
and everyone born after that date who get to pay for it he says “Sorry, you are out of luck. There will be no more $$$ left for yours. But we will give you a discount coupon instead. WE are brave for telling you the TRUTH”

No way would people buy such BS, it was just stupid, but we were told that it was genius.

23 posted on 01/21/2014 3:38:35 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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To: Hugin
My original point was that the Chamber (and Ryan I guess) demanding amnesty and more menial workers, and eventually giving them the vote,
doesn't work with their demands of raising the effective retirement age for entitlements.

Clearly these fools must know that they will eventually be voting to put more costly mandates and taxes on them.

24 posted on 01/21/2014 5:38:01 PM PST by sickoflibs (Obama : 'If you like your Doctor you can keep him, PERIOD! Don't believe the GOPs warnings')
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