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Daily Caller ^ | 1/21/14 | Neil Munro

[Hugin]

Chamber of Commerce also wants SS and Medicare min age raised to ~ 70,

That idea is particularly irksome. Always proposed by high paid people who spent their whole career behind a desk. Try telling a carpenter or a waitress who've worked all their lives that they can't retire at 65, got to wait another 5 years. What would happen is people will retire and collect SSDI instead of regular SocSec. In fact, I'm convinced a lot of the increase in SSDI now is baby boomers who can't do physical jobs anymore.

[Clemenza]

Can we please retire the term “Reagan Democrats?” They are all pushing up daisies in McComb County cemeteries at this point.

[sickoflibs]

RE :”That idea is particularly irksome. Always proposed by high paid people who spent their whole career behind a desk. Try telling a carpenter or a waitress who've worked all their lives that they can't retire at 65, got to wait another 5 years. What would happen is people will retire and collect SSDI instead of regular SocSec. “

I have made that exact point myself.

I went to a Hair Cuttery recently and the one who cuts it is a mom ~ 40s with three kids, originally from Korea. I asked her if she signed up for O Malley care and she told me she has no health insurance.

I try to imagine her trying to stand and cut hair all day when she is 67. Yep, SSI.

The thing that was obscene about Ryan's scam plan, which few bought, was he exempts everyone born after a certain year, zero cuts for 10 years, giving the full benefits to that group for the rest of their lives,
and everyone born after that date who get to pay for it he says “Sorry, you are out of luck. There will be no more $$$ left for yours. But we will give you a discount coupon instead. WE are brave for telling you the TRUTH”

No way would people buy such BS, it was just stupid, but we were told that it was genius.

[sickoflibs]

My original point was that the Chamber (and Ryan I guess) demanding amnesty and more menial workers, and eventually giving them the vote,
doesn't work with their demands of raising the effective retirement age for entitlements.

Clearly these fools must know that they will eventually be voting to put more costly mandates and taxes on them.