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Kasich: State of emergency for Ohio, National Guard on alert
http://www.wlwt.com ^ | January 20, 2014 | Staff

Posted on 01/21/2014 6:28:15 AM PST by Whenifhow

CINCINNATI —Ohio Gov. John Kasich has declared a statewide energy emergency for all 88 counties. The declaration was made in order to expedite the shipment of propane and heating oil to rural parts of the state.

Kasich's declaration temporarily eases regulations on shipping companies and delivery drivers. They will be allowed to drive more hours and more consecutive days than they normally would, as long as they can still do so safely, the declaration read.

Those longer hours are meant to help companies make the necessary deliveries of propane and heating oil to customers, as they are needed.

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This declaration will remain in effect until the emergency is over, but by law the emergency authorization is only valid for 30 days.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events; US: Ohio
KEYWORDS: heating; heatingoil; kasich; nationalguard; ohio; propane
Read state of emergency proclamation

http://www.wlwt.com/blob/view/-/24007484/data/1/-/lwa8vs/-/State-of-Emergency.pdf

1 posted on 01/21/2014 6:28:15 AM PST by Whenifhow
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The Ohio National Guard has been placed on standby and will be available to help in any county, as requested, Kasich said. They were authorized to transport shipments of propane and heating oil, if needed.

Kasich also encouraged Ohioans to check on their neighbors, especially older adults and families with young children.

Anyone who needed help was urged to call their county emergency management agency.

Read state of emergency proclamation

http://www.wlwt.com/blob/view/-/24007484/data/1/-/lwa8vs/-/State-of-Emergency.pdf


2 posted on 01/21/2014 6:30:44 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Whenifhow

What’s the deal? Why is there a lack of propane and heating oil for people? I’m pretty sure that OH has experienced winter before. ;)


3 posted on 01/21/2014 6:36:29 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

“Why is there a lack of propane and heating oil for people?”

My question exactly, what’s up with this all of a sudden?


4 posted on 01/21/2014 6:37:34 AM PST by jocon307
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To: jocon307

Bush’s fault, obviously! ;)


5 posted on 01/21/2014 6:38:38 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

The declaration allows shippers, with valid commercial driver licenses who are transporting propane or heating oil, to drive more hours and more consecutive days than they normally would as long as they can still do so safely.

Above is from a different article - link below
Statewide Energy Emergency Declared
http://www.wkyc.com/story/news/local/2014/01/18/ohio-energy-emergency-declaration/4641949/


6 posted on 01/21/2014 6:40:04 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Yes, but they haven’t experienced leftism on this scale before.


7 posted on 01/21/2014 6:46:56 AM PST by Olog-hai
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To: jocon307; Diana in Wisconsin

Wonder if there were some recent new “regulations” on truck drivers.

Midwest, Northeast brace for snow, frigid air as propane shortage lingers
http://www.foxnews.com/weather/2014/01/21/midwest-northeast-brace-for-snow-frigid-air-amid-propane-shortage/print

Michigan Gov. Rick Snyder has declared an emergency because of the shortage. He issued an executive order Jan. 10 loosening rules for trucks carrying propane and fuel oil. The order allows the trucks to be on the road more hours and more days in a row.


8 posted on 01/21/2014 6:48:02 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: jocon307

I live in Ohio and I think this is just to get a head start on the polar weather headed our way. We aren’t going to see above zero temperatures for at least another week. This allows people to fill up and stay warm in anticipation of the cold weather. Anticipation? Ugh! I long to be in Florida right now.


9 posted on 01/21/2014 6:48:04 AM PST by Catsrus (A)
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To: Whenifhow

No worries. Gubmint on the way. A little payback for your votes. Thanks 47%.


10 posted on 01/21/2014 6:48:10 AM PST by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: Whenifhow
Kasich's declaration temporarily eases regulations on shipping companies and delivery drivers. They will be allowed to drive more hours and more consecutive days than they normally would, as long as they can still do so safely, the declaration read. Those longer hours are meant to help companies make the necessary deliveries of propane and heating oil to customers, as they are needed.

What a sad state of affairs when you have to declare a state of emergency in order to exercise common sense.

11 posted on 01/21/2014 6:49:06 AM PST by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: Catsrus
Ugh! I long to be in Florida right now.

Greetings from a relocated Buckeye here in Florida after moving this past summer. Looks like I picked the right year to move.

12 posted on 01/21/2014 6:52:07 AM PST by GreenAccord (Bacon Akbar)
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To: Whenifhow

Declaration of over-regulation? It’s comforting to know the government is here to save us. Their condescending compassion is nauseous. Perhaps taxes can be raised to alleviate problems they have created. Do bureaucrats ever experience unnecessary cold?


13 posted on 01/21/2014 6:58:18 AM PST by PGalt
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To: showme_the_Glory; Catsrus; jocon307; Diana in Wisconsin

This explains it ....we started with a propane deficit and prices will “necessarily” have to rise.

Propane shortage adds to winter woes
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2014/01/20/22372040-propane-shortage-adds-to-winter-woes?lite

However, the energy shortage is not just a result of families and business owners trying to keep buildings comfortable during the persistent cold spells. The Midwest started the winter with a propane deficit since a greater than usual amount of propane was used in November to dry corn crops during a rain-soaked harvest, according to the U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA).

“Propane prices in the Midwest will likely need to rise to keep propane in the region,” according to the EIA.

In the middle of January, average propane prices across the nation were 58 cents per gallon higher than the same period last year, EIA reported.


14 posted on 01/21/2014 7:00:19 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Texas Eagle

Texas also had an ERCOT issued following a power outage recently. (Short term)

ERCOT Issues Emergency Alert After Power Plant Outage
http://www.kwtx.com/home/headlines/ERCOT-Issues-Emergency-Alerts-After-Power-Plant-Outage-241005051.html?device=tablet


15 posted on 01/21/2014 7:01:31 AM PST by Whenifhow
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To: Olog-hai

Leftism on parade, sorry folks it is the law of the land these regulation are for you own good, freeze your rear ends off and rememer vote DemocRAT.


16 posted on 01/21/2014 7:05:41 AM PST by WilliamRobert (Obama so loves the poor he created millions more.)
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To: Catsrus

“I long to be in Florida right now.”

My kid and her family are there now, but unfortunately they are flying home to the DC area today. So far the flight is only delayed about 1/2 hour.

Praying and worrying here!

Stay warm as best you can!


17 posted on 01/21/2014 7:08:09 AM PST by jocon307
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To: Whenifhow

Wisconsin did this weeks ago.


18 posted on 01/21/2014 7:10:05 AM PST by Obadiah (I Like Ted.)
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To: Whenifhow

Did Ohioans wake up and find themselves in an Ayn Rand nightmare?


19 posted on 01/21/2014 7:10:22 AM PST by wintertime
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To: Whenifhow
I hope the Ivory Tower academics and government teachers gain some appreciation for those nerdy engineers, skilled technicians, and blue collar workers who are working overtime to save their butts.

It's for the chiiildren...you see.

20 posted on 01/21/2014 7:14:25 AM PST by wintertime
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To: WilliamRobert
Leftism on parade, sorry folks it is the law of the land these regulation are for you own good, freeze your rear ends off and rememer vote DemocRAT.

Indeed! It reads like something out of an Ayn Rand novel. It will be the Hank Reardens of the nation and their armies of technicians and skilled blue collar workers who are working overtime to keep Ohioans from freezing to death. They won't get the credit though. The governor and his toadies will take all the credit and the government schooled masses will bow down and worship government just as they were indoctrinated to do.

21 posted on 01/21/2014 7:19:58 AM PST by wintertime
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To: PGalt
The government schooled masses will bow down and thank government for saving their butts. Hey! This is what their Marxist-trained teachers indoctrinated them to do. Missed completely will be the Hank Reardens of the the nation who really kept them from freezing to death.
22 posted on 01/21/2014 7:22:51 AM PST by wintertime
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

New Limited HOS (Hours of Service) regulations from Federal DOT for CDL drivers has hampered the ability for Propane delivery.


23 posted on 01/21/2014 7:27:41 AM PST by griswold3 (Post-Christian America is living on borrowed moral heritage)
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To: Diana in Wisconsin

Oil & propane dealers/distributors buy ahead based on last years sales/demand. If this winter is a lot colder than the last one, shortages happen just because someone down the supply line did not buy enough.

IF they buy too much then it sits in their storage tank and they tie up their funds until next season.

It is similar to demand for rock salt, calcium chloride and other ice melter products. If you get a bad winter like this one, everyone is out and you can not get enough. However, you do not want any left over on the first of March because it does not store too well over the summer. Any left over will sit in the warehouse for 9 months and tying up your money.


24 posted on 01/21/2014 7:36:52 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: Catsrus

We just layer up when we go outside, put blankets on the horses and throw another log in the woodstove.


25 posted on 01/21/2014 7:47:32 AM PST by Noumenon (Resistance. Restoration. Retribution.)
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To: jocon307

It has more to do with the condition of the roads.

My guess is that the many snow days so far has the counties tapped on their snow melting stockpiles, and many of the rural counties simply cannot afford many snowplows.

As I sit here in my rural southern county, I know that both my township level road has not been touched, and my driveway won’t be touched by my tractor for another few hours. Both are hilly. The propane truck would have difficulty getting in and getting out.

I have wood backup.

So, it’s not that there’s so much snow. It’s that there isn’t money to pay for removal supplies and equipment.


26 posted on 01/21/2014 8:54:22 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: wintertime

Exactly!


27 posted on 01/21/2014 8:56:51 AM PST by PGalt
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To: wintertime

Kasich is a good governor. Beats the last 6 or 7 hands down. Not even close. He’s taken us from insolvency to the #7 most fiscally solvent in the nation, and that’s despite an income tax. Ohio’s made a huge leap forward under Kasich.

He’s made some mistakes, but he hasn’t wavered on the economy.


28 posted on 01/21/2014 8:58:21 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Whenifhow

Kasich is doing better than Obama. Go figure!


29 posted on 01/21/2014 8:58:35 AM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: woodbutcher1963

3 years ago, our propane supplier automatically filled tanks when they were down to 40%. Last year, the refill level went down to 25%-30%. This year, it is not refilled until you are down to 15%-20%.


30 posted on 01/21/2014 9:01:12 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: xzins

Good luck to you out there in the frozen midwest.

We are supposed to get a big snowfall here in NY/NJ today, it’s coming down fast & furious right now.

I was sitting at the computer, right by the window, and without me even noticing everything turned white. It’s only been about an hour, but I bet we’ve got a solid inch at least already.

They’re saying we’ll get over a foot here at the Jersey Shore, but we’ll see!


31 posted on 01/21/2014 9:13:12 AM PST by jocon307
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To: reformedliberal

The other major component with heating oil and propane is sometimes companies bet wrong. For example, an oil delivery company typically offers a pre buy the previous summer to the heating season. They can lock in their profit by buying the actual oil and taking delivery OR buying futures contracts on the mercantile exchange. However, sometimes they may believe the price is going to go down. Therefore, they take the business short perceiving they will be able to buy later at a cheaper price. These speculative trades do not always work out. This has led to the demise of several heating oil delivery companies with the wild swings we have had in the price of oil futures in the last 10 years.


32 posted on 01/21/2014 9:42:29 AM PST by woodbutcher1963
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To: woodbutcher1963

Excellent explanation. It otally understand, as I’m re-stocking my garden center for spring. I HATE having too much stock on hand, tying up cashflow. :)


33 posted on 01/21/2014 10:18:44 AM PST by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: woodbutcher1963

We haven’t had the summer fill specials for several years. Instead, they come out after the contract period ends in March, no matter what the tank level is, and fill it up at the prevailing market rate. So, we are paying a summer premium, now.


34 posted on 01/21/2014 11:30:05 AM PST by reformedliberal
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To: Catsrus
Meanwhile, here in Arizona... :)


35 posted on 01/21/2014 11:36:16 AM PST by Mr. Jeeves (CTRL-GALT-DELETE)
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To: Mr. Jeeves

“Meanwhile, here in Arizona... :) “


No thanks.

I prefer cold and love having four distinct seasons.

.


36 posted on 01/21/2014 11:39:44 AM PST by Mears
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To: jocon307

Just got back from the driveway and the back lanes. Tractor blade did fine. It was only 3-4 inches of snow. Cold is supposed to set in tonight, though.

Stay warm in Jersey....avoid bridges. :>)


37 posted on 01/21/2014 12:16:23 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Mears
I prefer cold and love having four distinct seasons.

Me, too. From November to April, no multi-legged or slithering critters, no flying bloodsuckers, and no stinging Coca-Cola thieves.

38 posted on 01/21/2014 12:25:59 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: xzins

LOL, I will, thanks!


39 posted on 01/21/2014 12:30:17 PM PST by jocon307
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