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Iran reportedly sends two warships to Atlantic
Fox News ^ | January 21, 2014 | Associated Press

Posted on 01/21/2014 8:19:32 AM PST by SpinnerWebb

Two Iranian warships set sail Tuesday for the Atlantic Ocean on their navy's first-ever mission there, state TV reported.

The voyage comes amid an ongoing push by Iran to demonstrate the ability to project power across the Middle East and beyond.

The report said that the destroyer Sabalan and the logistic helicopter carrier Khark will be dispatched on a three-month voyage.

"The warships will have task of securing shipping routes as well as training new personnel," the semi-official Fars news agency quoted Iran's navy chief Admiral Habibollah Sayyari as saying.

(Excerpt) Read more at foxnews.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: atlantic; bho44; bhoiran; bhomiddleeast; getreadyforwar; iran; iraniannukes; iranwarships; khark; nucleariran; sabalan; shipmovement; waronterror; warships
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1 posted on 01/21/2014 8:19:32 AM PST by SpinnerWebb
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To: SpinnerWebb

A 3 hour tour?


2 posted on 01/21/2014 8:22:15 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: Resolute Conservative

More like a waste of fuel.
I think they have actually done some work against Somali pirates.


3 posted on 01/21/2014 8:23:12 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: SpinnerWebb

Reminds me of an old French joke I will retask:

You know why the new Iranian navy has glass-bottomed boats?

To see the old Iranian navy.


4 posted on 01/21/2014 8:23:36 AM PST by Resolute Conservative
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To: SpinnerWebb

Run silent.
Run deep.


5 posted on 01/21/2014 8:26:42 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks ("Say Not the Struggle Naught Availeth.")
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To: SpinnerWebb

Ahh....

...Targets of opportunity.


6 posted on 01/21/2014 8:29:12 AM PST by Mr. Quarterpanel (I am not an actor, but I play one on TV)
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To: SpinnerWebb

Obama surrenders in 3 2 1


7 posted on 01/21/2014 8:31:14 AM PST by molson209 (Hillary Clinton)
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To: SpinnerWebb

remember those Iranian nuclear missiles O has been protecting for five long years?

remember what the Iranian Mullahs keep saying, that their number one target is USA (their “Great Satan”)


8 posted on 01/21/2014 8:31:15 AM PST by faithhopecharity (C)
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To: SpinnerWebb

Has barry surrendered yet?


9 posted on 01/21/2014 8:31:46 AM PST by Old Yeller
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To: SpinnerWebb

That’s a long way to row.


10 posted on 01/21/2014 8:32:08 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Mr. Quarterpanel

See what happens when you empower these zipper heads?! Would be cool if a rogue sub commander took care of business!


11 posted on 01/21/2014 8:32:22 AM PST by gr8eman (How ya doin Bob?...Bitchen!)
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To: SpinnerWebb
"The warships will have task of securing shipping routes as well as training new personnel,"

"The warships targets will have task of securing shipping routes as well as training new personnel,"

There, fixed it.

5.56mm

12 posted on 01/21/2014 8:33:17 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: Old Yeller
Has barry surrendered yet?

He hasn't heard about it yet. Maybe he'll learn about it later, while watching television.

13 posted on 01/21/2014 8:33:49 AM PST by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: SpinnerWebb

Equality!

The American Dream, according to His Majesty Obama I.


14 posted on 01/21/2014 8:34:27 AM PST by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Eric in the Ozarks

Yo Admiral Habibollah Sayyari You can’t see them and you won’t hear them. But we will be watching you.
-SUBLANT


15 posted on 01/21/2014 8:42:27 AM PST by Autonomous User (Pain Fades. Chicks Dig Scars. Glory, lasts forever.)
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To: SpinnerWebb
how terrifying.


16 posted on 01/21/2014 8:47:46 AM PST by JohnBrowdie (http://forum.stink-eye.net)
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To: SpinnerWebb

I sure hope those Persian’s built those boats out of sturdy papyrus.The also should remember to leave the matches at home.


17 posted on 01/21/2014 8:49:04 AM PST by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: SpinnerWebb; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; shove_it; TrueKnightGalahad; Cincinatus' Wife; ..
Re: helicopter carrier Khark

Helicopter Carrier... my shiny metal arse!

At http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Iranian_ship_Kharg it says:

The Iranian ship Kharg is a modified Ol-class replenishment oiler of the Islamic Republic of Iran Navy, named after Kharg Island. Built at Swan Hunter in the United Kingdom and launched in 1977, she was delivered to Iran in 1984.

Kharg entered the Suez Canal on 22 February 2011, with the frigate Alvand, on a deployment reported to be a training mission to Latakia, Syria.

The Kharg entered the Suez Canal again, with one other warship on 18 February 2012, after briefly docking at Jeddah, Saudi Arabia.

Gadzooks, here are photo of this "helicopter carrier" on the web:

The main thing to fear is this old ship could hold a hidden medium range rocket that if close enough to our shore, say in the Gulf of Mexico south of Galveston, it could launch a nuke EMP electromagnetic pulse weapon (that could not be intercepted) set to explode about 300 miles over Kansas and would put most of the center of the US back in the stone age for many, many months if not years.

The Obamanation would be so pleased because we would not then have to worry about Global Warming or Obamacare as a hundred million or so would die from starvation or medical problems within six weeks.

Iran is already at war with us and our President is on their side! God help us, Obama won't--

18 posted on 01/21/2014 8:55:08 AM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: JohnBrowdie

Looks like a ship. Certainly these ingenious muslims could have designed something so much more perfect for parting the seas.


19 posted on 01/21/2014 8:55:56 AM PST by onedoug
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To: puppypusher; JohnBrowdie

Both of you read my post #18 as there is possible danger present—


20 posted on 01/21/2014 8:56:55 AM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: SpinnerWebb

One missile, shot over the USA, with a nuke on it, can utterly and completely shut down every electrical circuit, device, etc. in the country. The USA would go back to the stone age in 30 seconds. The massive deaths would be unbelievable. You could not even bury the dead fast enough. Millions in hospital would die within hours. The Soviets put their brand new, super quiet submarine in the gulf of Mexico for months and we did not know it. What do you want to bet that we would even miss those ships floating around out there also. Mistake them for Florida fishing vessels.


21 posted on 01/21/2014 9:00:51 AM PST by RetiredArmy (I am proud to be a Christian and follower of my Lord Jesus Christ. Time is short for U to know Him!)
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To: SpinnerWebb

Let’s just hope there will be a U.S.Navy Submarine will be shadowing those targets.It would be a big surprise to hear of a maritime disaster involving those tubs.

They’ll probably suffer some kind of structural failure at sea and sink beneath the waves.


22 posted on 01/21/2014 9:05:16 AM PST by puppypusher ( The World is going to the dogs.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

Scud-in-a-Bucket ping


23 posted on 01/21/2014 9:05:56 AM PST by Buckeye McFrog
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To: SpinnerWebb

How many does China have?


24 posted on 01/21/2014 9:07:07 AM PST by ex-snook (God is Love)
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To: Bender2
Iran is already at war with us and our President is on their side! God help us, Obama won't--

I agree. I still wonder about that drone that Iran ended up with. I also still wonder about this:

The U.S. Commerce Department's Bureau of Industry and Security asked South African authorities to block the transfer. It voiced concern that Iran's Revolutionary Guards intended to use the boat as a "fast attack craft." The bureau noted that similar vessels had been armed with "torpedoes, rocket launchers and anti-ship missiles."

Nonetheless, the loading went ahead because, according to one source, no one saw the U.S. notice sent by fax on a weekend. U.S. Special Forces were ready to intercept the Iranian merchant vessel but the operation was called off, the source said.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2010/04/04/AR2010040402889.html

25 posted on 01/21/2014 9:17:38 AM PST by Irenic (The pencil sharpener and Elmer's glue is put away-- we've lost the red wheelbarrow)
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To: Bender2

Thanks for the ping.


26 posted on 01/21/2014 9:19:23 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: SpinnerWebb

This is more correctly described as a frigate and a supply ship. A frigate has limited ability to operate on its own in blue water.


27 posted on 01/21/2014 9:26:45 AM PST by Redmen4ever
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To: Redmen4ever; Bender2; tx_eggman

In Bender2’s scenario, they would only have to get there. I’m sure there would be no plans for a return trip.


28 posted on 01/21/2014 9:30:42 AM PST by SpinnerWebb (IN-SAPORIBVS-SICVT-PVLLVM)
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To: RetiredArmy

“One missile, shot over the USA, with a nuke on it, can utterly and completely shut down every electrical circuit, device, etc. in the country. “

You’ve been reading too much prepper fiction. The Soviets actaully did it to their own people and it didn’t even knock out a town.


29 posted on 01/21/2014 9:30:57 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: AppyPappy; Irenic; puppypusher; JohnBrowdie; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; shove_it; ...
Re: You’ve been reading too much prepper fiction. The Soviets actaully did it to their own people and it didn’t even knock out a town.

You have a source for this, Pappy? The following from is only one of many I can offer up:

Nuclear (NEMP) and high altitude nuclear (HEMP) Main article: Nuclear electromagnetic pulse

NEMP is the abrupt pulse of electromagnetic radiation resulting from a nuclear explosion. The resulting rapidly changing electric fields and magnetic fields may couple with electrical/electronic systems to produce damaging current and voltage surges.

In military terminology, a nuclear warhead detonated hundreds of kilometres above the Earth's surface is known as a high-altitude electromagnetic pulse (HEMP) device. Typically the HEMP device produces the EMP as its primary damage mechanism. The nuclear device does this by producing gamma rays, which in turn are converted into EMP in the mid-stratosphere over a wide area within line of sight to the detonation.

NEMP weapons are designed to maximise such effects, especially on electronic systems, and are capable of destroying susceptible electronic equipment over a wide area. The popular media often depict such EMP effects incorrectly, causing misunderstandings among the public and even professionals, and official efforts have been made in the USA to set the record straight.[1] [2]

Non-nuclear electromagnetic pulse (NNEMP)

Non-nuclear electromagnetic pulse (NNEMP) is a weapon-generated electromagnetic pulse without use of nuclear technology. Devices that can achieve this objective include a large low-inductance capacitor bank discharged into a single-loop antenna, a microwave generator and an explosively pumped flux compression generator. To achieve the frequency characteristics of the pulse needed for optimal coupling into the target, wave-shaping circuits and/or microwave generators are added between the pulse source and the antenna. Vircators are vacuum tubes that are particularly suitable for microwave conversion of high-energy pulses.[3]

NNEMP generators can be carried as a payload of bombs, cruise missiles (such as the CHAMP missile) and drones, with diminished mechanical, thermal and ionizing radiation effects, but without the political consequences of deploying nuclear weapons.

The range of NNEMP weapons (non-nuclear electromagnetic pulse bombs) is much less than nuclear EMP. Nearly all NNEMP devices used as weapons require chemical explosives as their initial energy source, producing only 10−6 (one millionth) the energy of nuclear explosives of similar weight.[4] The electromagnetic pulse from NNEMP weapons must come from within the weapon, while nuclear weapons generate EMP as a secondary effect.[5] These facts limit the range of NNEMP weapons, but allow finer target discrimination. The effect of small e-bombs has proven to be sufficient for certain terrorist or military operations. Examples of such operations include the destruction of electronic control systems critical to the operation of many ground vehicles and aircraft.[6]

The concept of the explosively pumped flux compression generator for generating a non-nuclear electromagnetic pulse was conceived as early as 1951 by Andrei Sakharov in the Soviet Union,[7] but nations keep work on non-nuclear EMP classified until similar ideas emerge in other nations.

Awaiting your sources--

30 posted on 01/21/2014 9:42:47 AM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Bender2

Google is your friend

http://www.futurescience.com/emp/test184.html


31 posted on 01/21/2014 9:49:23 AM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: nuconvert; txhurl

Ping.


32 posted on 01/21/2014 10:55:52 AM PST by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: AppyPappy

Sorry friend. I don’t read science fiction. I read history and real books. And it does work. Read something besides the NYSlimes.


33 posted on 01/21/2014 12:20:47 PM PST by RetiredArmy (I am proud to be a Christian and follower of my Lord Jesus Christ. Time is short for U to know Him!)
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To: AppyPappy; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; shove_it; TrueKnightGalahad; Cincinatus' Wife; ...
Re: You’ve been reading too much prepper fiction. The Soviets actaully did it to their own people and it didn’t even knock out a town. and Google is your friend http://www.futurescience.com/emp/test184.html

Gaszooks, Pappy... did you even read your source?

It is clear from the data that has been released on the E1 component of the pulse that the thermonuclear weapon used in Test 184 was particularly inefficient in producing EMP. In all thermonuclear weapons, pre-ionization of the upper atmosphere from the gamma radiation of the first stage of the weapon limits the peak electric field generated by the final burst of energy; and it appears that the peak electric field produced by Test 184 was not much more than 10 kilovolts per meter over any point in Kazakhstan. If the weapon had been a simple single-stage pure fission weapon of the same yield, the fast E1 component of the pulse would have been 3 to 5 times the intensity. (Even the W49 thermonuclear warhead used in U.S. Starfish Prime test would have yielded a fast E1 component that was more than twice the intensity of Test 184 at that location.)

The radar and the radios that were damaged in Test 184 were probably all vacuum tube equipment. Other than small consumer transistor radios (which were usually made in Japan during this time and used germanium transistors), the only solid-state devices that were commonly used in 1962 were selenium rectifiers in radio power supplies. The Soviet Union always had difficulty in manufacturing silicon solid-state devices due to their inability to achieve sufficiently accurate temperature control during the fabrication process. Even today, Russia is the leading country in the manufacture of vacuum tubes, with Svetlana tubes of St. Petersburg, Russia claiming to be the largest manufacturer of vacuum tubes in the world.

Although vacuum tubes are highly resistant to EMP damage, many other components in radio and radar equipment using vacuum tubes can be damaged by EMP.

Published reports, including the 1998 IEEE article by Greetsai and others, have stated that there were significant problems with ceramic insulators on overhead electrical power lines during the tests of the K Project. In 2010, a technical report written for a United States government laboratory (Oak Ridge National Laboratory) stated, "Power line insulators were damaged, resulting in a short circuit on the line and some lines detaching from the poles and falling to the ground."

As mentioned earlier, since the K Project high-altitude tests were done so close to the Baikonur Cosmodrome, the launch site for nearly all of the Soviet civilian space flights, including Sputnik 1 and Yuri Gargarin's first manned spaceflight, that I have often wondered if the EMP from the Soviet tests in 1962 did any harm to the spaceflight operations at the Baikonur Cosmodrome. Although I've never found a conclusive answer to this question, and the following comments are my own speculation, Soviet space missions did begin experiencing an unusual level of difficulties beginning in mid-October, 1962. Although connection of the technical problems with the space missions and the nuclear EMP is my own speculation, the quotations from NASA, as shown below, about these space missions are unedited factual statements taken from NASA web sites. Also, there was an unusually long period of months without any manned missions after the Soviet EMP tests. The next Soviet human spaceflights after the October, 1962 tests did not occur until the successful dual spaceflights of Valery Bykovsky (Vostok 5) on June 14, 1963 and Valentina Tereshkova (Vostok 6) on June 16, 1963. There have been longer gaps between Soviet manned spaceflights, and there are other possible reasons for the long delay before Vostok 5. Still, the overall pattern of spaceflight delays and failures points to possible EMP problems at Baikonur. The October 22 and October 28 tests must have delivered a large EMP at the Baikonur Cosmodrome. The 1962 Starfish Prime EMP in Hawaii would have been small in comparison, except out over the open ocean. Even the November 1 test (K-5, Test 195) probably delivered a rather large EMP at the Baikonur Cosmodrome.

So, do you still stand by your cocky post that we should not have any worry about EMP weapons as they are silly fiction? All because the Soviet Union in 1962 was not able to knock out a town that used vacuum tubes electronics because they did not have any of the solid-state electronics universally used today? Solid-state electronics that are fodder for an EMP weapon?

If you answer is yes, you are not only very, very wrong... you are an idiot for offering up a source that proves your original post was a load of horse hooey--

In this instance, Google was not your friend as it showed you to be a complete schmuck.

34 posted on 01/21/2014 12:27:04 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Bender2

OK Bender, just sit in your bunker and shiver in fear. The big bad EMP is coming to take away your electricity.

Knock out the whole country. HAHAHAHA!!!


35 posted on 01/21/2014 12:50:52 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: AppyPappy; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; shove_it; TrueKnightGalahad; Cincinatus' Wife; ...
Re: OK Bender, just sit in your bunker and shiver in fear.

You are really one cold piece of manure, Pappy, are you not?

No one said anything about cringing in a bunker.

I only said that the Iranian ship was big enough to hide a rocket capable of firing a nuclear EMP weapon 300 miles over Kansas from the Gulf of Mexico. Exploding such would cause wide spread damage destroying all unprotected solid-state electronics which for the most part run all our cars, trucks, power plants (both conventional and nuclear), water plants, computers, I-pads, phones, kitchen appliances, you name it.

This would effect about 200 million people who live in fly-over country between LA and New York, putting them effectively back in the electronic stone age. No food nor medicine except what is on hand at the moment of the EMP. No way to get immediate help as all cars, trucks and railroad locomotives will not run. No phone, no computer, no I-pad, no electricity, no water to drink or fight fire. Of that 200 million effected I said up to 100 million would probably starve to death or die from lack of medical attention and/or supplies before proper help could reach them.

It is a capability that exist and is well known. I know you most likely do not know what 'capability' means, so here is the definition: 'A talent, ability or happenstance that has potential for development or use. Often used in military parlance.' If you don't understand any of these words, use your old pal Google.

Even the source you smugly Googled and offered up supports my posts rather than your "The Soviets actaully did it to their own people and it didn’t even knock out a town" post in retort.

And now after being shown to not know anything about what you claim, you add with a laugh: The big bad EMP is coming to take away your electricity. Knock out the whole country. HAHAHAHA!!!

You have proven you do not read your own source and if you read your own posts you would see what any reasonable person would see: an ignorant, non-caring little fool who is most likely either an ill-educated immature teenager or a grown man who never grew up nor ever got any book learning and has no likelihood in ever doing so.

And if a EMP did happen, you would probably be among the first to die because such unprepared simpletons always are--

So, if you wish to make a point of it, come knock on my front door and repeat your smug crap. I'll happily open the door and let you see that I am a sixty-seven year old man on a quad-cane.

I don't cringe, Pappy, nor shiver in fear. I was a Boy Scout before I got a college education and I am prepared for numb-nut airheads like you.

36 posted on 01/21/2014 2:06:35 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Bender2

Yeah. 200 million people without power with one nuke. Of course it would.
You know Russia had cars and trucks in the 60’s, right? Those EMP’s didn’t kill them. But an Iranian nuke would do it.
If you flapped your arms hard enough, you have the capability to fly.


37 posted on 01/21/2014 3:47:47 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Bender2

“So, if you wish to make a point of it, come knock on my front door and repeat your smug crap. I’ll happily open the door and let you see that I am a sixty-seven year old man on a quad-cane.”

You can’t scare me. I have cats.


38 posted on 01/21/2014 3:50:47 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: AppyPappy; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; shove_it; TrueKnightGalahad; Cincinatus' Wife; ...
Re; You know Russia had cars and trucks in the 60’s, right?

Are you that incredibley incredible stupid?

In the 1960s all autos, repeat, all autos, had a very simple ignition system, points and a condenser, like the 1960s vacuum tubes electronics mentioned in your world famous source. Today there is not any automobile or truck or railroad locomotive in the world that is made with that type of 1960s ignition system. They are all solid-state nowadays, just the type one nuclear EMP would knock out for good.

Look, if you suffer from some illness or malady that keeps you from making intelligent conversation with reasonable arguments, do not post.

The hole you keep digging just gets you deeper and deeper and soon you will not be able to get out. Cut your losses and shut up spewing silly nonsense that you cannot back up.

BTW there was a report tonight just about 20 minutes ago on the dangers of Iran possibly using a EMP against up on Fox News' "Special Report With Bret Baier" or is that another cuckoo group you believe are all cringing in their caves?

39 posted on 01/21/2014 4:09:19 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: AppyPappy; Allegra; big'ol_freeper; Lil'freeper; shove_it; TrueKnightGalahad; Cincinatus' Wife; ...
Sorry for the second post but I was so flabberghasted by AppyPappy's rubbish post that I did not proof it properly. My apologies--

Re: You know Russia had cars and trucks in the 60’s, right?

Are you that incredibly stupid?

In the 1960s all autos, repeat, all autos, had a very simple ignition system, points and a condenser, like the 1960s vacuum tubes electronics mentioned in your world famous source. Today there is not any automobile or truck or railroad locomotive in the world that is made with that type of 1960s ignition system. They are all solid-state nowadays, just the type one nuclear EMP would knock out for good.

Look, if you suffer from some illness or malady that keeps you from making intelligent conversation with reasonable arguments, do not post.

The hole you keep digging just gets you deeper and deeper and soon you will not be able to get out. Cut your losses and shut up spewing silly nonsense that you cannot back up.

BTW there was a report tonight just about 20 minutes ago on the dangers of Iran possibly using a EMP against us on Fox News' "Special Report With Bret Baier" or is that another cuckoo group you believe are all cringing in their caves?

40 posted on 01/21/2014 4:17:29 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Bender2

I know you really want to believe in this doomsday scenario but it’s not healthy to obsess over such things. Google it a little until you learn more. Don’t just listen to what you want to hear.

And caffeine is not a good substitute for Thorazine. But check with the nurse when she comes by the Home. She’ll know better than me.


41 posted on 01/21/2014 4:30:25 PM PST by AppyPappy (Obama: What did I not know and when did I not know it?)
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To: Bender2

So is the consensus that Iran is going to EMP up as soon as it gets in range?


42 posted on 01/21/2014 4:33:20 PM PST by txhurl
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To: Bender2

http://www.rooshvforum.com/images/smilies/mindblown.gif


43 posted on 01/21/2014 5:30:56 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: Bender2

http://www.rooshvforum.com/images/smilies/new/clap2.gif


44 posted on 01/21/2014 5:48:48 PM PST by GOPsterinMA (You're a very weird person, Yossarian.)
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To: SpinnerWebb
Let's replace their life vests with suicide vests and see if they notice.
45 posted on 01/21/2014 5:52:47 PM PST by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: Bender2

So then please explain why there are pictures of mushroom clouds from nuclear tests near Las Vegas, and yet the EMP didn’t seem to affect the Las Vegas strip at all.

Yes... EMP is a real phenomenon. But it also a fairly short-range effect. Like a blast wave, or a sound wave... It diminishes with the square of the radius of the distance. Close-up... Yes it will fry electronics. But the long range effects of an EMP are minimal.


46 posted on 01/21/2014 6:33:53 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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To: Ramius
Re: So then please explain why there are pictures of mushroom clouds from nuclear tests near Las Vegas, and yet the EMP didn’t seem to affect the Las Vegas strip at all.

Gadzooks, did you even read any of the above and comprehend any of it? In addition, those atom bomb tests in Nevada were in the 1950s and early 1960s before the Partial Test Ban Treaty was passed in 1963, which banned nuclear tests in the atmosphere, underwater and in space, but not underground. In the early 1960s we were were still mainly on vacuum tubes electronics and points & condenser auto ignition that are highly resistant to EMP.

Again, it is the solid-state electronics that are in just about everything nowadays that would be damage or destroyed by a EMP weapon exploded high above the center of the US.

Yet you and AppyPappy cannot seem to understand that simple fact.

Even a massive electromagnetic pulse triggered by a super sized solar storm on the sun would do the same. Read "Solar storm of 1859" at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar_storm_of_1859

47 posted on 01/21/2014 6:52:04 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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Sorry... You’re just wrong about that. Sure, there is an EMP effect from a nuclear explosion but it isn’t ever going to be continental in scope from a single event. Even with the largest of hydrogen bombs. The EMP effect will be significant, But SO IS THE BOMB. The EMP is a lesser effect from whatever damage is done by the primary explosive.


48 posted on 01/21/2014 7:04:08 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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While I enjoy a good argument or discussion with give and take on either side, it is not any fun when the other side is wrong and totally set in stone like Global Warmers or President Obama.

Well, you and AppyPappy have fun storming the castle. I shall not answer any more posts from people so damn dumb they cannot read nor reason.

49 posted on 01/21/2014 7:26:17 PM PST by Bender2 ("I've got a twisted sense of humor, and everything amuses me." RAH Beyond this Horizon)
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To: Bender2

Well, neener neener to you too. :-p

Nyuk nyuk.


50 posted on 01/21/2014 7:35:36 PM PST by Ramius (Personally, I give us one chance in three. More tea anyone?)
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